>2.5s global cooldown
How the fuck can any MMO player defend this?
They give a ton of abilities that don't trigger the global cooldown and with the way mechanics work with weaponskills, you're constantly on the move.
>>344154698
I only played it back before the expansion till endgame. But from what I experienced every class had like off GCD fillers that filled the gaps really nicely so it wasn't really noticeable. Then I think classes like MNK and NIN have reduced GCD timers?
It really is a silly argument since the only class that really feels it is Paladin and PLD is fucking mindbogglingly boring.
Final Fantasy players are extremely autistic
Balanced for controller players on consoles like PS4 and PS3.
>>344154698
because most attack animations are like 1.5-2s long
>>344154915
Every class can have reduced GCD timers, if you remember about the Skill Speed and Spell Speed stats gear can have/melded
>>344154698
It's a fucking Final Fantasy game.
The combat system heavily reminds me of Active mode of ATB combat that was in older 2D Final Fantasy games but done in realtime 3D instead of being exclusively turn based.
>>344154915
MNK has greased lightning and NIN has Huton, both decrease the global cooldown by as low as 1.5s depending on what party buffs are available.
>>344155079
Now you have to explain that too since it's also bullshit
>>344155840
The slightly longer GCD allows the characters to do longer but fancier looking animations.
I always play Mage/spellcasters, so as far as I'm concerned 2.5 is just casting time.
>>344156081
Black Mage with Arrow and Leylines can cast much faster than 2.5s
>>344155827
What am I looking at here
>>344155840
why is that bullshit?
>>344155827
And now post warlock or something from vanilla wow 10 years ago
more buttons doesn't mean anything, dumb retard and it definitely doesn't mean anything with a 2.5gcd - ROFL
>>344155827
>>344155827
I heard about the pruning. Didn't know it was that bad though holy shit. Casuals ruin everything.
GOTTA GO FAST
GOTTA GO FAST
GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER FAFAFAFASTER
>>344156636
>corrupted holy dietys
>pvp talents
>relics weapons for everybody
it's okay when WoW copies FFXIV
>>344155005
Invalid argument. Eso is on consoles and it doesnt have cooldowns at all.
>>344157380
Eso combat is not as complex as FFXIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZ5MfWpOTw
because FFXI had like two minute GCD
>>344157492
resource management is more complex than CD managing.
>>344157652
you do both in ffxiv
>>344157786
i know that, but the resource management in ffxiv is "click button to refill mana/tp/w.e"
also 25+ useless buttons does not make the combat more complex. The less abilites you have the more you have to THINK how to use them. FFXIV is just the same rotation and a bit of movement. It's Like wow for dummies.
>>344156625
Most of those buttons aren't on the GCD and can be pressed any time, retard.
>>344154879
>>344154915
>>344155079
Okay guys good job that should keep the shitposters off our backs. We can talk about the game normally now.
>>344155298
>Even if you went full balls to the wall SS you probably wouldnt even reduce your GCD by half a second
SS is a terrible stat, that sees very limited use by what, mnks and blms? For everyone else its terrible right?
>>344156625
I automatically discard any comments that use 2.5gcd as an argument
>>344158673
you want a certain amount on DRG and WAR but yeah, on most classes it's the worst stat
>>344157305
Don't forget that the WoD legendary ring is basically them experimenting with limit breaks.
How the mighty have fallen.
They seem to be taking a page from XIV crafting as well. You have to go out into the world and do little quests to learn recipes and shit instead of buying mats off the AH, spam button for 15 minutes to get to max level.
>>344159165
>You have to go out into the world and do little quests to learn recipes and shit instead of buying mats off the AH
thats nothing new, they already had that in TBC
Heavensward has been disappointing in one major way for me: New features.
I always look forward to new dungeons and raids every patch, but it feels like the major additions like Diadem and Lord of Verminion have either been really bad, awkward or just totally disconnected from the rest of the game.
I know we're getting Palace of the Dead soon and they're re-tooling Diadem in 3.4/3.5 but I hope in the future they can start nailing this kind of thing first time rather than "sorry we made that bad thing, wait five months for us to try again".
>>344154698
The only people complaining about the global cooldown are the people who quit at level 20 without any abilities.
>>344158009
>resource management in ffxiv is "click button to refill mana/tp/w.e"
No it's not.
>also 25+ useless buttons does not make the combat more complex.
Thanks retard. I'm glad you outed you don't know shit about FFXIV. If you want to play your job to the fullest potential you're going to be using every single skill you have regularly, except for a few that are generally exceptions like Feint from Lancer.
>It's Like wow for dummies.
No, WoW is FFXIV for dummies.
Official forums are ablaze with complaints about the stale formula Yoshitp has been regurgitating since 2.0
Funny to watch the die-hards defending their perfect game.
>b-but the silent majority!
I actually want to play FFXIV again, but I quit before the first expansion came out. My main is a white mage and I remember leveling a scholar up.
Are there any players / linkshells here that want to play with me? I don't mind transferring servers, currently on leviathan
>>344159481
>retooling diadem in 3.4/3.5
Where'd you hear that? Diadem is an awesome idea, but it's such a mess to get into.
>>344156625
99% of those skills are used constantly. Ffxiv doesn't have many useless skills like vanilla WoW
Workshop needs to be part of private housing, including apartments.
>>344154698
>8 million active subscriptions
Deal with it.
>>344157585
This. The source of damage from many jobs in FFXI was your fucking auto attack, either because your few abilities had a long cool down or just because you didn't want to do too much and take aggro away from the tank.
It's funny to see how perceptions of MMOs have changed, because it wasn't that long ago when people complained about how "facerolling" your keyboard meant winning in a game like WoW. Now, apparently your game sucks if you're not constantly mashing buttons like some shitty 3D game of Simon.
>>344161575
Granted I only really placed Dancer in FFXI, but I was throwing dances, waltzes, sambas, and shit out like constantly.
That said, Dancer in FFXIV when?
>>344161090
Yeah, once the novelty of a game actually having content patches every 3 months wore off, you notice how they actually managed to have content patches every 3 months. Dungeons are super formulaic hallways, the 4 seperate rooms for raids, the 24 mans basically just being dungeons too with larger circles to fit 24 people. Crafting/Gathering is a shitshow in HW, Materia is one of the most garbage modification systems that has remained untouched. And all the side content is low effort garbage.
>>344161234
I need friends but I'm on Sargatanas. I'm part of a normie FC thats admittedly kind of shit, but its better than being completely alone I guess. There are a few good people there but not really enough to start a raid group. I've been crafting/gathering waiting for deep dungeon mostly.
>>344155827
>our hotbar simulator lets you press more buttons than that other hotbar simulator
Hilarious.
>>344161723
>Yeah, once the novelty of a game actually having content patches every 3 months wore off,
Spoken like a true WoWfag.
>h-having content patches regularly is j-j-just a novelty!
>i-it's so much better getting one content patch every 12 months or more!!!
Fucking WoWfag defense force. As if it isn't obvious enough Blizzard has marketers here every day making Legion and Overwatch threads, they send their marketers into threads for games like FFXIV to shitpost them and anti-market them.
God I fucking hate Blizzard.
Midgardsormr ww@
>>344158009
>The less abilites you have the more you have to THINK how to use them.
Comedy gold.
>>344154698
You fucking complete retard, more than half of your abilities aren't even on the fucking gc. This is the oldest and worst argument against ffxiv there is.
>>344161998
>marketers
Please don't act like that. It's not hard to believe that people want to defend their WoW, some people have been playing it for like, over ten years.
Both games have their positives and negatives, and they're copying each other, hoping to improve their own game more than the other.
At least he lgbt guilds finally died offalong with the majority of the playerbase
>>344155827
Squeenix could learn a thing or two from Blizzard. I'm not gonna defend the pruning but none of the spells in FF interact nicely with each other as they do in WoW. They make absolutely no sense. Take Mage in WoW for example. Every spell plays off of each other and (Brain Freeze) rotations make sense.
>>344161373
The GDC fillers people mentioned up there are fucking retarded in how they work. Lancer has 4 of the same skills that share the same cool down. It's like they ran out of fucking ideas and went "It's fine just put the same fucking thing in there again no one will notice"
I actually really like the 2.5 GC
>>344159481
LMAO
You don't think the Boat expansion will NOT do the same shit Heavensward did?
>FFXIV: Ala Mhigo launches
>Teases BOATS
>don't actually get to ride BOAT until 6 months after launch until the Boat version of Diadem launches
It will happen again
>>344162553
>Lancer has 4 of the same skills that share the same cool down
You mean their rotaion?
>>344164579
gibe MNK opener webm
I need to feel the breakdance
>>344155827
It's still a lot more but you can get rid of these
>>344155827
>want to like MMOs
>the moment I have more than a bar-and-a-half of skills I start to panic in fights
You have all these screencaps where people have like four full bars of shit or whatever and I get second-hand anxiety from it.
Do people usually put all that stuff in macros, or do they really remember each and every ability and when to use them?
I'm not trying to imply that it should change or anything, but I'm just curious is all.
>>344154879
Yeah that sure makes a fun early game
>>344165507
Most of them are buffs you blow when it's safe
The only thing you really need to remember is not to use your stun skill as extra DPS if the fight requires an enemy spell be stuncanceled
>>344165507
Dude just practice. Do stuff on a training dummy, or you can be like me and just run 4 mans like all the time. Pretty soon muscle memory will set in and you'll be doing keyboard acrobatics and flinging out abilites like you're playing a fighting game.
>>344165507
Most skill and macro set ups build with time, so you progressively get used to each new change. It's like this in just about every single mmo out there except for a handful.
BDO takes another extreme which is skill input memorization one or two of your skills are hotkey everything else is potions,food,buff items all your actual skills are like an action fighter where it's combo based and a ton of it is based in animation cancelling and high learning curve to ultimately be good at playing the game.
Games like WoW,XIV,EQ all rely strictly on hotkey mapping and most of it is general overtime stuff so it's not that bad.
>>344154698
How good is the new FF XIV on a scale of 1 to 10
>>344165363
>Feint is useless.
>Sprint shouldn't be bound to a hotkey.
Lol
>>344166264
Whoops, I forgot to put a question mark.
>>344166264
I kinda disliked 1-50 but once I got to 50 and started doing the main quests I got really into it and the expansion is fantastic. So I'd give it like 7-8/10
>>344166362
Feint IS useless and only casters need sprint to hand, anybody else is just raping their DPS for no reason
>>344166413
It's a real shame that the best parts of the story and the entire expansion are locked behind like 50+ hours of straight up garbage content.
What's the easiest class to play on the gamepad?
I tried nin, but 16 buttons slots per bar isn't enough for the shit I usually use in combat
>>344166463
You should have sprint bound for every job, even if it is more situational to use it on jobs that utilize TP.
>>344162553
>Squeenix could learn a thing or two from Blizzard. I'm not gonna defend the pruning but none of the spells in FF interact nicely with each other as they do in WoW. They make absolutely no sense. Take Mage in WoW for example. Every spell plays off of each other and (Brain Freeze) rotations make sense.
What doesn't make sense about BLM's rotation?
>>344166774
Why?
Use it and you have to waste invigorate to get some of your TP back.
You can dodge everything in the game with proper placement if you don't have the reactions of a five year old
>>344166463
You've never stance danced as MCH if you think that Feint is useless.
There's been so many times that GB has been on CD and I can squeeze in an extra little bit of dps. Not missing 2-3 GCDs is nothing to scoff at.
>>344166881
There are times when it's useful, no matter how rare those times are. If you don't have it on a shared binding across all jobs you're doing something very wrong.
>>344166881
>huge AOE suddenly under me
>thanks to bad placement of either me, the group, or the thing we're fighting
>no way to walk out of it
>have to run or my death will wipe us all later on a DPS check
>>344166808
He's a retard, that's why BLMs rotation doesn't make sense.
>>344166463
>clicking your limit break
>clicking anything at all
>Feint IS useless
top kek
>Sprint shouldn't be bound to a hotkey.
Shitter spotted, you must be terrible and ran out of keybinding space, and then end up having to rationalize why you aren't binding 'trivial' things.
>>344166920
>You've never stance danced as MCH
This istrueI have it at 54 and it's just so uncomfortable to play.
>>344166998
I do have it on a shared binding across all classes, off to the side and out of the way, because I've literally never needed to use it.
>>344167074
If you're a melee dps and you die to an AoE, that's your fault or your ISP's for throttling your internet.
Ranged shouldn't be getting hit by anything anyway.
>>344167203
>I've literally never needed to use it.
I find that hard to believe. I think it's more that you've never used it in the rare times you've needed to.
>>344158673
you need enough skill speed for war to do triple fell cleaves in berserk, and you want spellspeed for days on BLM because it improves PPS way more than crit or det, it's trash on MNK, and BRD can use it to great effect because it greatly reduces empyreal arrow CD which is main damage source pretty much at 60
>>344163930
>>344167186
I'm not terrible, but I know you're gonna ask me to deliver a parse and I'm not loading up the game just to satisfy an anonymous anonymously.
>>344167294
I've honestly NEVER needed to sprint to save my ass. Take that as you will.
>>344162553
>I'm not gonna defend the pruning but none of the spells in FF interact nicely with each other as they do in WoW. They make absolutely no sense. Take Mage in WoW for example. Every spell plays off of each other and (Brain Freeze) rotations make sense.
Get to 50 before you open your mouth on 4chan, Chaos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht1dQP6k4Xc
>>344166708
Probably one of the tanks? DRK and PLD don't really need to do much WAR is a little more fun and involved with the dps stance they get in the expansion.
>>344154698
Latency, non global cooldown abilities
>>344159165
>>344159361
Jewelcrafting also has something similar now in WoD. Wish every profession was like this.
>>344167383
>I've honestly NEVER needed to sprint to save my ass. Take that as you will.
So you never die? There has to be at least one time that you've died that sprinting would have saved you.
>>344167880
I only ever die to AoEs if I'm new to the content and wasn't expecting it. Most of my deaths come from latent arena damage and sometimes weeping city's last boss because the tank moves and she haircuts a lot of people.
Bonus points if we've got b4b up.
>>344154698
will this meme die already
>>344167672
What about monks and drg?
>>344168078
>weeping city's last boss because the tank moves and she haircuts a lot of people.
Speaking of her, the hitbox of her trap AOE is bullshit.
>>344167383
>I've honestly NEVER needed to sprint to save my ass. Take that as you will
Even perfect play on your own part isn't going to save you from not needing sprint.
One time in a8s the other enumeration group fucked up their orb numbers and were all gonna die. I wasn't needed for mine so I sprinted over to save their ass and the run.
It's not like jobs are TP starved anyway, as a MCH theres no midas fight I even need to use invigorate on at all, a8s in particular has so many intermissions where you sit around doing nothing. I pretty much only hit it for fun these days.
>>344154698
2.5s gcd is the least wrong thing with the game. There is an ocean of dumb shit to bitch about other than the 2.5s gcd meme.
>>344168353
It's a little bigger than the indicator, yeah. Got me on my first run a couple times.
>>344161512
>8 million active subscriptions
care to provide a source
>>344156479
You're looking at skill bloat. Some reason XIV takes pride in it. I play XIV and even I'm annoyed by it.
>this is the mastermind who played everyone like a fiddle and got away with it
>>344161512
8 million created accounts, perhaps
>>344168874
For now.SE probably forgot about him
>>344168658
>Skill bloat.
Friendly reminder that it's casuals like you who killed WoW.
>>344168658
You wouldn't a Tiamat.
>>344168185
Granted I've never played either at high level, but I'm led to understand that they have highly involved and complex rotations at 60. Hell someone post the pic of the optimal DRG rotation, its like 30 skills or some shit.
And I really believe it about mnk, because I see way more bad mnks than good ones. I've seen mnks that do half the fucking tank's damage in groups and thats pretty amazing.
>>344154698
the networking, interfacing and animation locking can barely handle a key press like every 2 seconds, and considering some classes weave oGCD nearly every single GCD, and Ninja is supposed to weave 3 in one GCD, it's actually impossible to play perfectly and it needs to be slow. its an improvement over 1.0's networking but still utterly embarrassing. i dont know what the fuck is wrong with japan when it comes to networking and databasing, they are only good at graphic design and stuff. FFXI is slow but it ran on a 56k PS2 modem so it has an excuse.
>>344169128
Only mmo's I've played is XI and XIV friend sorry your assumption is wrong
>>344168658
>skill bloat
I'll admit every class has around 1-2 attacks that rarely see usage and could be cut under most circumstances(MNK with Fist of the Destroyer or One-Ilm Punch comes to mind, with the latter only being used in PvP), but otherwise every skill sees usage and it isn't hard to weave them all into a rotation, even at the increased speed of 1.5 gcd.
>>344169198
>ran on a 56k PS2 modem * and the combat design doesn't doesn't require fast APM
i meant to add
I can't even
>>344155827
>40 billion skills
>Rotation uses like 8. The rest are ignored.
Cool
I tried to get into XIV. I got bored. Same boring quest hub to quest hub progression. Tiny maps. Combat was bland.
The music is godly though
Why does no one want to take risks with MMOs anyone and push the genre?
>>344169180
As a MNK I find it actually pretty easy to maintain 1300-1400 dps during most instances, outside of positional being fucked by aoes/spinning tanks.
>>344168874
>>344169515
> tfw trying to summon chocobo primal
>>344169675
>Why does no one want to take risks with MMOs anyone and push the genre?
Devs do that alll the time.
Then they fail because nobody cares about the new.
I need help /v/. I just came back from a 1 year break and I was thinking if it was worth it to switch servers, I'm on Lich from the EU realm.
>>344169814
Mostly because MMO players only play WoW, even when it's shit. Even now they refuse to stop playing it.
fucking wowrefugees ruining the playerbase and crashing our servers
>>344169180
MNK is less about rotational complexity but hundreds of minor optimizations per fight that add up to incredible gains because MNK is a job that's built around multipliers multiplying multipliers. Any MNK can just do his 123, 456, DoT and put out passable DPS so long as the focus solely on maximizing uptime on whatever there is to hit.
The easiest of the melee DPS to play is NIN, but it comes with dealing with the mudra system, which even after fixes is still annoying as well as having secondary responsibilities to the party via resource and threat management.
>>344161234
I'm on Leviathan if you wanna party up for a bit?
I got a level 46 Monk, 17 healer, and 22 Tank
>>344169814
No they don't. They make the same fucking game with a different paint job. Or it's a PvP gank box.
>>344168658
>skill bloat
Ah, the famous saying of a retard shitter who can't keybind.
>>344169906
It's actually just RMT ddosing Aether so they can get on to Balmung. Sorry, blame Yoshi for not permanently locking the server.
>>344171045
Ah hell, ya got me anon
Any guides like this for playing astrologist?
Just bought the game, trying to be useful.
Oh look another thread of people who want some kind of nebulous magical social simulator that this game will never be or intended to be, with the regular bad gameplay advice spice!
>>344171534
I want tofucktataru
>>344171534
Fuck you.
Go make me a new suit you bitch.
>>344171354
Aw fuck, you're a little potato. Now i feel bad.
>>344171825
>>344172057
Foresight is so bad you may as well not take it at all ever. 2.5% physical mitigation, everything I've ever wanted!
>>344172254
The game doesn't deal in halfs so that's 3%.
3% is the difference between 32 HP and dead. Remember the only HP in this game that matters is the last one.
>>344159165
>2010+6
>still playing WoW
After the collasal domestic flop of the movie, I'm sure the only ones playing this tripe are sub human Chinese in net cafes.
>>344172387
>The game doesn't deal in halfs so that's 3%.
That's not how it works. What it does is that it raises your physical defense stat (just like Protect) but 20% is so little, it ends up slashing at best 3% off damage received (it scales so it's not a static number).
>>344172057
>buff potions
I'd understand if it'd last 5 minutes and not 5 SECONDS.
>>344168874
This always bugged me big time: to make an analogy to what Spoony said in his Ultima Underworld review, our avatar adventurer is almost literally the Christ figure of Eorzea, the guy who slew invasions of multiple beast tribers, multiple primals, multiple Garlean generals AND an ancient Allagan robot (and arguably an Ascian), all of this in a very short span of time.
And then this fucking syndicate of jews comes along and pretend to frame him/her (plus Rubhran) for murder only for the sake of gaining advantage over a mining site (yes, it apparently has Omega inside it, but the overall idea is still that these guys just want money). And expect the Eorzean population to believe them and destrou the Scions; no fucking wonder it backfired in the long run.
It worked immediately only because the adventurer was probably too busy getting mindfucked by Midgarsorm, but still, what a terrible way to progress the story.
>>344172532
It's a good thing they last 15 seconds then?. That means you should probably get your 7 most powerful attacks in under them?
>>344170804
Ultros is a quality server.
>>344169515
Literally Shokugeki no Soma: The Quest
>>344168874
What happened in HW is still fucking baffling to me, they had him show up in the opening CG in a clearly main villian role, and then he just shows up and goes "Hey can we just pretend this whole thing never happened?".
>>344164579
What the fuck is this?
>>344172934
The opening scene also has the WoL fight an army of Hraesvelgrs.
>>344172967
The world's worst dragoon opener.
>>344172615
>Spoony
Literally who? A reference to Tellah or the bard from FF4?
>>344172934
I guess what happened is that at some point they decided to minimize the length of the MSQ and put most of the exp points into sidequests, but you can't very well make that story a sidequest so for that reason and pacing purposes they slashed the Uldahn storyline to a couple of quests.
What twaddle.
>>344172615
If the adventurer is popular.
Do you think they sell posters and action figures based on the adventurer?.
>>344154698
>>344173231
>still .36 slower then other games base global.
>>344171450
I recommend you play Scholar if you wanna be a utility healer but I'll give you a 101 on Astro if you're really interested in the class for some reason.
>never use celestial opposition for increasing buff times, use it in combination with lumineferous aether every time
>synastry will heal whomever its olaced on for half you heal, this includes the synastried target if they are healed directly, so its a fuckhuge bomb heal cooldown on tank
>your dps rotation is Combust 2 - Combust - Aero - Malefic 2 spam, fairly simple, Gravity spam for AOE dps
>NEVER use lightspeed to dps, its a dps loss despite its absolutely retarded trait bonus, use it for clutch aoe instant heals
>try to use essentialy dignity only when the tank is low on health
>noct sect is pretty garbage but always use it if you happen to be paired with a White Mage, having shields in a raid is important
Card shit:
>Balance: put this on the highest dps, always aim to use it with expanded on 8 man raids
>Arrow: Same as Balance for the most part but it doesn't benefit classes that have no self attack speed boosts very much, prioritize monks, ninjas and black mages for arrow, rejoice if you have a scholar because expanded arrow + Selene is 8% haste in everyone
>Spire: Burn this to get extend. Only ever use it pre-pull or on tank/yourself to reduce cd on lumineferous aether if you absolutely have to, the cooldown timer reduction can mess up rotations mid fight
>Spire: garbage card, burn to get expand or use it on whomever has he lowest tp if you have no other choice
>Ewer: for the most part burn to get expand but use t on yoursef or your co healer if they really need the mp
>Bole: Burn to get enhanced for the most part but it can come in handy to save it in raids or for a large pull. If you are gonna use it make sure you have enhanced buff and time dilate it along with a regen on the tank.
>>344173063
Youtube reviewer i think. So yeah, literally who.
>>344172615
That's what pissed me off
>Be the fucking god slayer and savior of Eorzea
>"You dont fight back during the 2.55 scene because you will make yourself look guilty!"
>Implying anyone dare speak against me
Everything about us getting framed was stupid, but it got me away from the useless scions for a while so it's okay.
>>344173210
I play a monk and I would love to have an action figure with kung fu kicking power!
Highlander > Elezen > Roegadyn > Midlander > Lalafell > Au Ra = Miqo'te
Just wanted to remind you.
why are final fags so insecure about their game ?
also mmos like secret world repopulation are way more interesting than wow or finalfags
>>344170804
this shit looks like work
why not just get an actual job and get paid
>>344173689
Too bad I got bored of the secret world after end game got stale. Shame too, the story and lore is 10/10.
>>344157082
>Goodbye TP
>>344166264
8/10 for an MMO is quite the feat
>>344172615
>imblying they see us as more than an errand girl
If we are going to play the maid lets dress like one.
>>344173669
>falafells above anything
Shit taste confirmed
>>344173669
non-edgy aura males are god tier
>>344173669
>i'm gay
>>344170804
Still relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0SjQZCB5iU
>>344173669
Bro tier races:
Highlanders
Roegadyn
Elezen
Gray Area:
Midlander
Cesspool of autism:
Lalas
Au Ra
Cats
Fixed
>>344174034
>>344174120
Spot the furries
>>344173823
>Tfw you have a ninja and Bard in group and you get Goad and the TP song
>>344174103
The old moustache face is pretty GOAT but nobody uses it unfortunately
>>344174206
>implying
with your list, just move lalafells to the bottom and roegadyn to the top and it's perfect
>>344174190
>cesspool of autism
Funny how those races don't feel the need to make race tier lists for fictional races in a video game whereas the others do.
Who are the real autists here?
>>344174563
Fuck off barafag
>>344174761
t. memedesu
>>344165507
You get used to it and easily memorize it wen you level up. That's why you don't gain every skill at the same time and instead at incremented levels, it gives to time to learn the skills at gives you time to see how it incorporates with he rest of your skills. I leveled DRG first and I'll never forget what numbers are the main rotation45678123 with some OGCD in there.
>it's a least played races special snowflakes episode
>>344174801
shut up
>>344174761
Nigga males are cool, but i'm all about the females.
>tfw you'll never get snusnu from a femroe
It hurts
>>344166264
it literally saved the game, 9/10
>>344175142
>Ogre Micheal Cera
>>344173210
>you will never buy a Wind-Up Me from Rowena
>>344175262
>Stops before the shatter effect
Remove yourself
>>344175262
>Doesn't show the Ultimate End
4/10 gif
9/10 game
>>344175298
>being gay
Because it's no different than waiting for an attack or cast animation to finish in another MMO
Go ahead and name me one where you can smash every single skill you have and not have to wait in between them
Not a single time has a thread about this meme every proved me wrong
>>344175892
Even trannylanders are more feminine than the ogres Micheal Cera.
>>344175501
>>344175472
>>344175315
You can buy adult items based on the adventurer in the black market tough.
>>344174012
Everyone is an errand person for someone else, m8. The adventurer just happens to be both strong and blessed by Hydaelyn, but basically, it's just a guy/girl that wants to have fun adventuring with a kind spirit and a strong sense of altruism.
>>344176350
>I can fuck myself
Fund it
>Want to play FFXIV because Legion beta was garbage
>Don't want to leave my decade old WoW character
>>344176350
>you will never have a line of sex toys based on your exploits as a warrior of light
products include the Temperer, the Sword of Light and the Stoic Nod
>>344176350
excuse me
>>344174731
because they're busy ERPing, lalafell
>staying unsubbed until Palace of the Dead.
At least the backlog is getting cleared
>>344174907
B E S T P A N Z E R
![Bet+their+helium+asphyxiation+masks+are+way+better+_c4de02f32a18153835ef57f0ebb43b74[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wvvtmSO.png "Bet+their+helium+asphyxiation+masks+are+way+better+_c4de02f32a18153835ef57f0ebb43b74[1].png")
>>344176502
>Want to play FFXIV again
>Don't want to get back to raiding and pointless gear upgrades
>>344176941
So play casually with mates
>>344176941
>be subbed
>don't feel like playing
>be unsubbed
>feel like playing
How do i break this cycle?
>>344176628
I know you want an adventurer pillow to hug.
Realistically, how can we fix AST?
>>344177021
>mates
Don't have any and leveling's boring spamming dungeons and fates.
I might get back into it before the next expac.
>>344176350
Goddamn jews.
>>344177187
cut all card related cooldowns by half
>>344177149
only if i can show Y'shtola my Y'shtola daki so she acts awkwardly around me every time but can't avoid me because i'm the warrior of light
>>344177187
make cards played in cleric stance apply a matching debuff to the enemy
dead ass game, there's only 100k subs left and dropping
>>344177028
I force myself to play until I feel like playing again.
It seems to work most of the time.
Its not that the skills in XIV are useless. Its just stupid that DPS classes have like a bar off cooldowns you just press when they're up without thinking. They will be suffering from severe skill bloat if they add more in 4.0.
>>344172778
15 was it? Still too low. I'd understand 30 seconds at the very least.
>>344161857
>FFXIV
>hotbar simualtor
It's not jesus but fuck man have you seen Sephirot EX, Mhach, and Alexander Savage?
The last thing on your mind is hotbars
FFXIV servers have community, WoW doesn't anymore with cross realm bullshit.
>>344177545
Broken
>>344177317
Extremely broken
>>344177187
Cut the rng by a substantial amount by making it so you can draw each card once in a cycle allowing for better planning.
Eliminate sects and rework their aspected heals into something unique to them, replace sects with some kinds of instant heals pertaining to their new gimmick.
>>344177187
AST is fine, people who say otherwise are really not in touch with the game's balance
>>344178050
AST is fine but I'm pretty sure WHM/SCH is still the superior setup if you're minmaxing. At least in nignog ex whm is superior to AST in every single way, as cure 3 trivializes akh morn.
controller or keyboard+mouse? Which is better to use? Don't PC players have advantages over console players?
>FFXIV threads are mostly on topic. There are plenty of people with an input on the topic and lots of discussion is had.
>WoW threads are mostly people saying that the game is shit. Almost no discussion is had.
Why is this?
Does FFXIV have a better community?
Does /v/ have no WoW community? If WoW is actually as huge as Blizzard suggests then surely there would be come fan base here.
>>344178290
Some people like to switch to controller when they're crafting or gathering, but I'd say kbm is superior for fighting. If they add any more buttons in the next expansion, controller won't be able to deal.You can still do fighting fine with a controller if you really wanted to though.
>>344178541
WoW community has always been toxic shitters
>>344178290
Controller players have the reflex of grandpas and are always macro shitters, I fucking hate them.
>>344178264
My static (currently working on a8s) runs an AST who can near solo heal a7s (and is plenty capable of solo healing any primal fights)
They're honestly in a fine spot. If any class needs to be balanced, it's SCH or WAR, which currently every party runs because there's no other option for off healing/tanking.
>>344178264
To be honest it sounds like you are a perfect example of someone who is not in touch with the games balance.
AST has this thing called lightspeed and SCH has this thing called deployment tactics that are actual trivializations of ahk morn, however these are cooldowns that need to be used for the harder ahk morns.
White mage has Assize and Scholar has indomitability, which are both very useful but not necessary for surviving ahk morn, ASTs disadvantage lies in not having something like that.
Cure 3 really doesn't make any sort of difference versus medica for ahk morn, and back to back succors are actually better if you're topped off.
>>344177187
Make a 4th healer that can compete with SCH. Then they can balance for the new healer or SCH + WHM or AST.
>>344178781
I hate DPS that use controllers. They are always the ones who dodge shit late or can't damage properly.
>>344179015
>4th healer is still a stanced based design with a focus on shields to differentiate to ast
Lmao senpai
>>344178290
>Which is better to use?
m8 it's not even a question, the only reason controllers are even tolerated is because the vast majority of the game's content is easy enough that it doesn't matter which you use.
you can play triple triad on both equally well, for example.
>>344172254
I usually stack it on other CDs, but I encountered many moments where a Foresight made the difference from me being dead or not.
>>344154698
Players will try to tell you that having 1-2 moves on much longer cooldowns, and adding more of the same abilities with the same effects between same-feeling classes is okay as long as they have different names and you get to use them in preset cookie cutter orders.
This game is shit, and the only people who play it are weebs and wowfags who no longer have friends that play
>>344178290
It's down to preference. A guy in my FC uses a controller because he can't use a keyboard without cramping up his hand, something with arthritis.
>>344177187
>Remove Sects
>Aspected Benefic is now a buff that can be applied to ONE target that is a permanent regen roughly equivalent to Fairy healing that isn't affected by Cleric Stance to be fair. It wont heal the target if they're at full HP to avoid getting aggro during pulls.
>Normal Helios heals for more than WHM and SCH AoE does BUT does not apply a HoT or Shield (hold on)
>Aspected Helios is now on a cooldown and refreshes or increases the duration of all active cards and does not include a HoT or shield either
>Celestial Opposition no longer increases card duration and instead is on a lower cooldown to make it more consistently used on pulls
>Gravity now applies Slow to targets
>Redraw is now on a 30 second cooldown and has 3 charges (Yoshi stop being a lazy hack and add skills with charges)
>>344173397
Thanks mate!
How do we save MMOs?
The last few MMO releases were disappointments
FF XIV was a disappointment. TERA was weeb trash. Wildstar was DoA. TESO was horrible. BDO was Korean garbage. ArcheAge was ruining by ultra judaism.
>>344178879
>sch
>balanced
Lets count how many disadvantages scholar has right now versus the other two healers:
>adloquim and succor are the most expensive healing spells in the game
>on demand healing is very scarce for them meaning they rely heavily on cool downs, this becomes A liability the moment you get a party with a few bad players
>lower mind than the other two healers, no mind traits only int traits
>lower piety than the other two healers
>their succor is now officially weaker than astrologians, both in potency AND the shield itself, succor costs around 300 more mp than aspected helios as well
>their adloquim is now a slightly weaker shield than aspected benefic unless it crits, aspected benefic is instant cast
>their version of medica and cure 2 is available only every 30 seconds which is a callback to their heavycooldown usage
>they have a medica 2 equivalent but it can only be used every 1 minute, it has less range than medica 2
>their haste buff was nerfed to be 2% weaker to Astros
>literally worst pvp healing skills
>virus is limited by antibody but you can spam as many disables on the boss as you want
Most of these things are outweighed by their good points, but the point behind this post is that you CANT "balance" scholar without breaking it.
>raided T1 - 4
>never had a true static, thus never found a group for T5 back then
>2.2 released
>Coil farmable, FC tryhards farm 1 - 4 all day but I don't want to jump the bandwagon
>try Garuda Ex, always tanks or heals fucking up
>never clear it and the last attempt had a OT fucking it up on purpose
>give up on EX primals and raids altogether for a while
>meanwhile most of FC has done them
>still don't bother with anything, also in fear of getting bad reputation at this point within the FC
>months later FC almost died and hardcores switched to different FCs
>try Garuda EX again
>finally did it with a group in DF of all places
>try Titan EX
>comp can't handle it
>try joining C5 groups
>they always disband
>also can't try harder because of RL
>now, still only having farmed Garuda EX (with no horse)
>tried Bismarck EX once, but group was retarded also griefing
>Thordan EX training groups I were in had the same issues as T5
>don't bother with raids at all since it's far too late for someone who is on the server since beta
>also I'd have to put up with the fags who actually killed the FC for good
What do?
How dead is this game now?
>>344180000
>All of this can be done with one finger
>>344179015
Nah fuck that. 4th healer needs a new gimmick beyond just shields. Pick one of the two below.
>Geomancer/Aethermancer. All primary healing spells are instant cast but have lower potency than the others. Focuses on being a very spammy and mobile job that constantly applies fast but weaker aetheric shields to blanket the raid or party. Does damage by manipulation the aether within enemies and tear them apart internally. However, in a party these damaging spells can be used on allies instead and it bolsters their damage when focused/channeled, letting an Aethermancer add damage to the group by proxy by boosting parties allies damage/defense depending on the situation.
>Dancer. Almost all their spells should be channeled. The longer you channel them the stronger they grow, but have a cap after like 5 seconds. Has a few weaker melee kick moves but their main focus is similar to AST in that they add damage primarily by dances that buff allies in some manner. Add in Jojo poses for some cooldowns since I know how much you guys like memes.
>>344180115
Not dead enough that it needs server merges, but dead enough that you might want to avoid the low pop servers.
>>344154698
It's okay because like everything from square you have to devote 100 hours before it becomes fun.
>>344180037
>Any of these things particularly relevant at true end game, not pug shit
As it happens, SCHs have the best healer dps, hence why it is that they spend most of the fight sitting around in cleric. They don't have to contribute healing for the most part because WHMs and ASTs can heal fine as is. SCHs provide emergency healing whenever it becomes overwhelming for the main healers to handle it by themselves.
This is the reason why EVERY group has a SCH. There is no reason to not bring a SCH, just like there's no reason to not bring a WAR. Again, it's only because they're the only classes in the game that perform their roles (off healing/tanking), but at the same time, this makes them the only classes that really need to be analyzed for balance changes, if the ultimate goal is perfect class diversity.
Because it weirdly cut off the end of the opener:
I made a webm to try to show off higher level faster ninja gameplay but it came out kinda slow and choppy.
Any advice? I recorded an mp4 with shadowplay and converted it to a webm through /wsg/'s Webm For Bakas.
I'm kinda new to webms.
>>344154698
>2.5 second GCD
literally snails pace
>>344167580
This guy is an insufferable, hypocritical, pretentious cunt jesus christ.
>WHY R U USING PRETENTIOUS MEDIEVAL LANGUAGE
>BUT NO JOKES THEY MAKE ME CRINGE I'M TOO ADULT FOR THAT
>>344180909
but vindictus isnt a hotkey mmo.
That doesn't count in this conversation.
>>344181237
it has hotkey skills though
>>344180632
Actually the real reason everyone brings scholar is because divine veil or deployment tactics are literally fucking mandatory for almost every raid, on top of the dps.
While what you're saying is true in that all thise points apply mostly to pugs, you don't balance a class with the 1% of the games population in mind only and the fact remains that nerfing scholar any further in the heals department, will make them literally unusable, since they do need to shield people in raids.
>>344181119
I like how he is constantly mentioning roleplaying in other reviews in a neutral way, yet is pissed over a few made up words like "Yalm".
Or how he now refuses to level to 50 because "he doesn't max level for other MMOs" (yet he does do endgame in most of them), or go back to the game because of the fanboys.
>>344181351
The game is such a faceroll that the only part of the game they could actually balance jobs for is the 1% that raids and does extreme primals. You can do literally any comp for the rest of the game and have no issue.
>>344180115
>>344181351
>You don't balance a class with the 1% of the games population in mind
You absolutely do. Not balancing a class for the highest tier of performance is how you break a class at highest level.
If AST was buffed as hard as the casual community demands it needs to be, it would become absolutely godsend and mandatory in end game raids. SE would be left with a class that either would always be picked because the alternative healers are objectively considerably worse, or down the line they buff the classes that are lagging behind, starting the cycle over again.
At that point, the question becomes whether or not you're truly balancing the game, or you're catering to the casual community. SE currently is in the former camp.
>>344167580
>9 is his favorite
Nope. Not even a minute in and he ousts himself as a huge faggot.
>Before even reviewing the game he says he has no love for FF
Well then, I guess this game's not for you. Simple as that.
>>344167580
>Complain about gameplay
>Guy is literally a blizzard wizard people warned about
>>344180909
hard to believe that it is a source engine game.
>>344181845I like 9Crystal Chonicles is superior to every mainline game though.
>>344181724
Everyone thought scholar was a pushover in 2.0 because white mage holy and medica 2 was INSANELY broken at the time and nobody shut up about it until someone proved with a titan hm sch solo heal that every idiot playing with the fairy on sic had a mental defect.
Now imagine if they nerfed scholar healing potencies to satisfy these equally motherfucking retarded astrologians who think nocturnal sect is useless even when you have a white mage as a partner. What will happen?
>yeah scholar can dps better than the other two healers but their heals are weak, might as well just have a solo healer white mahe and bring an extra dps
>scholar can no longer solo heal anything because their heal potencies were unecessarily nerfed.
>>344180115
If on Gilgamesh: Not at all
If on any server besides Gilgamesh: You will go an entire day without seeing a single person
Idk what they were thinking having like 90 servers on release.
