Nvidia wins again
>>344147465
How does this compare to AMD's offering performance per watt wise?
>>344147770
Nobody knows yet?
>>344147797
ah, no specs yet then? do we have a release date for it?
>>344147770
It uses ~30w less and it doesn't rape your motherboard.
>>344147770
>>344147891
There might be 'on paper' specs, but those are shit (look at the RX 480 specs and actual power issues).
>>344147989
post some proper numbers, not this shit
>>344147989
well, that is an improvement, but the graph not starting at 0 is setting my internal alarms off.
So it's between 40 to 50% better. That's actually pretty good, but if you only glance at the graph it makes it look around 300% better.
Scumbag move.
>>344147989
>graph starts at 0.8
Hahahaha, oh God, I love it when companies do this. Pathetic.
>>344147465
>mfw thinking about margins retailers will put on this thing in my country
I can choose how I die: crazy margins or crazy import tax + risk of poor handling.
>>344148337
Holy shit I never noticed that, that's pure scumbaggery, god damn.
>>344147989
>only 1.15 times better performance compared to 480
This graph is pretty funny. But at least it's competitively priced. I was worried it was going to be 350-400 range.
>>344147465
where are the reviews
>>344148387
I just try not to think about it. Once it is out, I'll figure it out.
>>344148387
Tell me about it, cheapest RX 480 I can find in France is 260€ or $290
>>344148615
>in France is 260€ or $290
Do they ship for EU?
It's going to be £250+ in the UK, isn't it?
>>344148675
>£250+
With Pound being in a shitty spot right now - even more I say.
>>344147465
350€ in Finland lets go
>>344148672
I don't know, find out for yourself. You'd be better off grabbing one from a german or UK website, they're much cheaper
Gonna be hard to win anything with that shit vram bus. Nvidia basically doesn't want it to do 1440p at all or ultra 1080p since that might cannibalize 1070 sales.
>>344147770
>1080 TDP: 180W
>measured average power consumption: ~165W
>1070 TDP: 150W
>measured average power consumption: ~145W
>1060 TDP:120W
>estimated average power consumption: ~110-115W
RX 480 consumes about 160W. 3Dmark scores put 1060 8-10% ahead. This puts 1060 ~55% ahead in perf/watt.
>>344149167
Memory bus isn't so important any more.
>>344147465
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE
THIS IS REAL?
>another card my R9 290 can shit on
Feelsgood
>>344147989
>power eficiency
Who the fuck cares about this?
Must be a jew caring about the electric bill....
>>344147465
The non-reference cards will be 400 at least here in yurop so no, NVIDIA doesn't win at all.
>>344149431
U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!
>>344149431
>Must be a jew caring about the electric bill....
Jews don't give a fuck about electricity. Golems run on magic. I bet it is some base dweller who have to cycle to generate electric current for his PC.
>>344149431
Considering an RX 480 would cost me like $30 extra a year compared to a 1070, I care about it quite a bit.
>>344147465
>no 4GB version
>get 3GB or get jewed by 6GB
Fucking jews, I just want to upgrade my 750Ti to play 60fps on 1080p
I have to imagine that the 1060 will be at least 10fps behind the 1070 so really we're likely to see the 1060 and 480 trading blows depending on what game you're playing and what API its using.
>>344148561
The 1070 is supposed to be in that price range, but of course extreme supply limits from the practically paper launch and the premium Nvidia is charging for the reference cards has driven the prices up.
>>344149539
Its like buying a car by its milage instead of everything else.
>>344149571
>>344149521
Oh...
And i thought is not even a selling point.
Worse than the jews then.
A jew minded puritan.
>>344149783
6gb isn't even enough for 1080p on shit like tomb raider or mirror edge. With the scorpio moving shit forward, you'd be an idiot to go with a 1060 that will be shitty at dx12 and fall behind within a year
The 4gb isn't worth considering either. Only 8gb
Though it's laughable they try to price it at 300 with 6gb
>>344149796
>playing dota 2 with anything beyond a 760
Why?
>>344147465
desperate attempt to rival with AMD.
You can't just put a weak card next to the 480 and say that you "won"
It may have a faster clock but it lacks at every other aspect.
So no.
You lose. Good day sir.
>>344149889
It's not a selling point to people who don't understand long term costs, aka (man)children who live with their parents.
>>344147465
>3gb
>>344149956
Because there are only two games so far that use Vulkan and Dota2 is one of them? Plus a 760 wouldn't maintain 60fps+ at 2160p why do you want to play games in low res?
>>344149431
It's a new meme like 144hrz or 4K gaming, companies trying to make retards buy shit.
>>344147465
Any chance it'll be only $300 in Canuck Bux? If it's $350 I'm killing myself.
>>344147465
>paper launch
>overpriced
nah its a flop
Im not brand zealot if you have money - 1070 is the best value
for a cheaper option non-ref 480 has no competition
>>344147989
>Much faster
>15%
>>344149571
Replace your incandescent bulbs with LED. You'll save a lot more power than you will shaving just 40W off your peak computer power usage.
>>344149889
If you don't care about the cost why are you looking at mid range cards in the first place? Just get two 1080s and call it a day.
Post yfw you didn't fall for the AMD meme.
>>344150135
Vulkan?
So anyone remember that shit?
Kek, i knew there was a reason why the fury was above the titanX.
>>344150078
I dont give a single fuck about power targets and shit, maybe if i was a wageslave counting coins to reach the end of the month.
>>344150498
>falling for the 3GB meme
>>344149796
>vulkan
>>344150607
You'd better hope that Vulkan catches on, otherwise everything is going to be stuck with DX12 and will be locked to Windows 10.
>>344148615
an rx 480 8gb in the us is $240, convert to euros and add 20% vat = 260€
>>344150665
>Falling for Pajeets lies
Anyone else getting the 1070?
>>344150491
Im good so far because the bottleneck is my monitors actually, have 3 1080 60hz tvs, wich is the worse in this case because of response time.
When i find some good monitors, 120hz at minimum, and the second gen of VR, Yea, ill make the jump.
But for now is useless, what i have is enouhg.
>>344150665
Its 6gb
>>344150341
Not using any incandescent bulbs. In fact, I rarely even keep the lights on.
>shaving just 40W off your peak computer power usage.
I'm shaving 33W off idle power usage.
>>344150880
>6GB
even better
>>344150736
>dx12
Its the same as vulkan, no one gives a shit because its too new and too expensive to develop with, only AAA Shit studios will use it.
The res is still with dx11 if not with 10.
>tfw you just bought a 1070 for 430
JUST
>>344150836
Yep, waiting until August/September for the price to drop though as it inevitably will.
>>344150980
You done goofed
>>344150906
You get a price for that?
I dont get it.
>>344150980
I'm probably going to buy a 1070 for $600+ dollars in the next few weeks if the prices don't drop overseas, so I know this feel and more
>>344147989
wew
>>344147989
This graph desperately needs a tear line.
>>344150968
>DX12
>Same as Vulkan
nope
>But they're irrelevant
nope
>>344151141
It was literally the cheapest I could find, everything else was 500+
>>344151261
I don't end up paying as much for an RX 480 as for a 1070 in the long term.
Are you the type that buys phones for only "$49" and then ends up shitloads more because you got suckered into a shitty 36 month contract?
>>344147465
The 1060 is looking pretty good but....
>3GB
really?
how fucking expensive can it be to put an extra 1GB there?
>>344151520
It's 6GB.
>>344151261
It would be like the equivalent of replacing a single 100w lightbulb with a 70w bulb. He's just nuts, or he lives someplace where electricity must come from dirty expensive coal instead of clean efficient Nuclear.
>buy a 1080
>week later receive $700 bonus
>>344151487
It's not the price or cheapest, you should have waited a few months and the price will drop. Nvidia always do this with their cards. After the 1060 has been out a few weeks the 1070 will drop in price.
>>344151613
How much do you pay for your electricity then?
>>344151518
>using a phone with contracts
Nah.
>using a phone
Why?
>>344151750
Communication.
>>344147770
rx480 uses about 7 less than my 1080.
2x480s in crossfire tested and dont beat a 1080 in most games.
So much for all that bullshit eh.
Performance per watt the 970 in sli beats the 480s in crossfire
>>344151660
About a dime a kilowatt hour.
>>344151660
Not that guy, but the one who asked this.
>big house
>computer running 24/7
>1 refrigerator
>1 freezer
>1 washer
>2 electric heaters in winter and 1 AC in summer
>rarely turn on lights because the good lighting in the house
>pay 20-50 bucks in 2 month period
It must be that, if not i really dont get it.
>>344151590
oh that's pretty good then.
good on nVidia, i know the non reference 480 are going to be better than the reference one but i highly doubt it will be able to beat the 1060, performance and price wise.
now nvidia just needs to release drivers that don't kill the card for a while.
but seriously, for the people who don't fall into the 4k gimmick meme, future is looking good.
>>344151838
And its the only way to comunicate?
That sounds like normie forced bullshit.
I have a phone, but i use it because of its portable features compared to a laptop, nothing else.
I'm buying AMD regardless because I don't support the jews at Nvidia.
>>344152139
Anon, dont be a fanboy in any side.
Just buy what you really need.
>>344147465
>starts at $250 for the 3GB version and they will probably jew you for a half HM some where
>$300 for 6GB
Nah I'll keep waiting for the 480 custom cards
>>344152136
>normie forced bullshiti don't think this guy is being ironic either
>>344150113
It's 6
So why would you get the GTX 1060 when you can get a Nitro RX 480 instead?
>>344152214
this.
i've had many cards from AMD lately because where i buy my computer parts the price/performance ratio has always been favourable to AMD.
but i had perfectly good nVidia cards, i absolutely loved my 8800GT
>>344152281
Because the 1060 is a better card on paper. Obviously no benchmarks yet so Im going off the numbers.
AMDs new driver update reduces the voltage and thus less performance.
>>344151613
Power efficiency is important because it translates into a colder and quieter card. I had enough of AMD's helicopter-like coolers, thanks.
>>344151948
Even with a price that low (EU average is about 0.20 €/kWh), I can get to $30 a year with 24/7 usage, which is pretty significant if you keep your card for a few years.
>>344152139
this except unironically. I'm going to vote with my wallet this generation and tell Nvidia that this deceitful "founder's edition" MSRP bullshit and price gouging is NOT acceptable.
>>344152279
No it isn't, it's 3. See >>344152217
$250 for the 3GB, $300 for 6. Plus more on top of THAT for the Founder's Edition, plus more on top of that because the card builders know they can slap whatever price tag they want on them and you nvidiots will buy them anyway
>>344152379
Reducing the voltage only INCREASES performance on the 480
>>344152217
They haven't announced a 3GB version, maybe they never will. It's only rumors.
>>344152379
But you can still just increase the voltage right? The Nitro version has an 8-pin instead of 6 so it should be able to handle it no problem.
>>344152320
8800/9800 GT were God-tier. Those were NVIDIA's glory days.
It's a shame they've become such jews over the years.
>>344152379
>>344152506
AMD new driver will shift the power draw, possibly capping the one from the PCI-E pin
In the same statement they also stated that the new driver will boost RX480 by about 3% on popular titles.
>>344152379
Undervolting the 480 gives a 3-4 fps performance boost actually
Is AMD doomed to forever be cucked by Nividia?
>>344150223
Probably not considering the 480 is like 330$ in this country.
>>344152757
At least until next year when they file for bankruptcy.
>250 bucks
so about 360 euros then? not bad considering the 1080 costs 900.
>>344152679
The only reason to buy newer cards so far (at least for jewvidya) is beacuse of that supposed way to render VR more efficiently, or fix multiple monitor gaming.
Buying new cards for 5-20 more fps is useless so far.
A fury or a 970-980ti is more than enough now, unless you go for 4k 120fps.
>>344152659
What they say and what it actually does can be very different.
Hasnt this latest series showed you that?
>>344152970
or if you want 1440. 970 doesnt like 1440p .
>starting at $249
lol ok, incoming $350 "economy cards"
>1070 starts at $379
most of them are closer to $500
>>344153172
this, pcmr drones caring about graphics so much, this is fucking 50 dollaroos more, no shit it's better
>>344153172
You can get a 1070 for $400. Blame AIBs, importers and retailers for the high price.
>>344152954
$250 MSRP
Founders Edition is $299.
Expect custom card to cost about $270+
>>344152473
There isn't any word about a 3GB version in the announcement... Where is that coming from?
>>344152281
>So why would you get the GTX 1060 when you can get a Nitro RX 480 instead?
Because of the price. I'll bet you top dollar I'll be Jewed the fuck out of money here in Europe.
But need to see benchmarks first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjmCaBAV_kU
>>344153162
Care to elaborate?
I smell the jewworks among shit new drivers have something to do with this.
>>344152139
thirding this, because it's my biggest motivator for not buying nvidia
their gameworks shit; no thanks
not to mention all the nvidia cards have these weird problem where they get worse with time, while AMD's cards all improve.
>>344153341
I've only ever seen it on /v/ and /g/, but the logic checks out and we're usually more clocked in to upcoming tech news than the general internet.lmao who are we kidding, it's lies from butthurt video card fanboys
>>344152970
Well if you own a 9xx series cards you kind of do have to upgrade since nvidia will be dropping driver support (If they haven't already), which kind of sucks since nvidia cards make use of a software-based architecture.
When did the 980 come out and why is it already beat by cards that cost a fraction of its price?
>>344152379
>AMDs new driver update reduces the voltage and thus less performance.
What? No it doesn't - they pull more juice through the 6-pin and less through the pcie
where the fuck do you get your info from? Nvididashills daily?
>>344153485
I had a 970gpu , it was brilliant for 1080p. Its a well known fact the 970 cant 4k and doesnt do 1440p well.
I now have a 1080 gpu which does like 1440p.
This is how I know
>>344153517
>>344153485
i knew there was something related to software.
>>344153592
https://youtu.be/_Kt8PX96ssc
AMD's finalized its statement regarding the RX 480 PCIe bus power draw, and will soon be releasing 16.7.1 to the public. This driver update will offer a 'compatibility' toggle to throttle the card back on power draw.
Can you not use google and do you wear blinkers?
>>344153646
>>344153637
This is why i dont have jeworks installed, and do tedious test with drivers before i actually make a jump.
This reminds me of having to downgrade drivers because of fallout 3.
> buy a gtx 970 2years ago
> the card is today 50€ more expensive
> new card are nearly as powerfull as card released 2 years ago
I will stick with my meme card until 4k is something real and not some rich people gimmicks
>>344153542
September 2014.
So nVidia cards have a life span of less than two years. lmao
>>344153512
The announcement only talks of 6GB though and as far as Pascal is concerned the Founder Edition at an extra price litteraly does nothing specs wise other than put an higher price tag on the same card.
>there are people on this board right now who thought it would be a good idea to get a reference card
>>344154041
I know its not, but the titanX was reference only.
>>344151613
are you fucking retarded?
nuclear power is not cheap, in the range of hundreds of millions to build a single reactor
>>344154157
>a few hundred million dollars for enough clean energy to power an entire city
Why aren't all Indian IP's banned on /v/? Literally all they do is spam graphics card shill threads
You reckon its worth upgrading to a 1060 from a 970
>>344150498
I'm surprised there's not a reaction pic of the crying AMD-fag.
DO IT FAGGOTS.He should have a fedora hat desu senpai.
>>344153646
Yes. The biggest difference is Nvidia cards rely more heavily on software (Which is why they shit out 2-6 new "game-ready" drivers every month) whereas AMD cards rely more on hardware.
Also, it's not true Nvidia gimp older generations, instead they just drop support in new drivers if a new series of cards is out. This means the older gen cards will not see any performance gains with newer drivers.
This doesn't happen to AMD cards. New drivers still give performance boosts to older AMD cards because of their hardware based architecture.
So if you want the best of the best and have too much money to spend and plan on upgrading again within 2 years, go NVIDIA.
If you don't want your card to stop gaining performance after 1-2 years and aren't gaming at 4K res, go with AMD.
>>344154262
>clean
well where does the nuclear waste go? That shit's not clean
>a few hundred million
you say that like it's a reasonable alternative to say $2 million to get the same results out of coal
>>344154329
No. What is the point of upgrading from a x70 card to the next generations x60?
It barely makes sense to go from a 970 to a 1070.
Is it better than my MSI R9 290? Should i change it for this nvidia?
When i run Witcher 3, my MSI reach a temp of 94°, not good at all.
>>344147989
>gtx 1060 four times as efficient
>two times the performance
rx 480 owners on suicide watch
>>344152460
>24/7 usage
>365 days per year
>at peak power
fuck off.
PCMR zozzle
https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/169047-250-gaming-pc
buying an xbox is worth more than one dumbass gpu at $250 and a pc at $250
>>344147465
Those MSRP are stupid... I really wish it would be illegal for them to do that shit, Nvidia and AMD alike. That's just false advertising. Fuck those cunts.
>>344154428
the 1070 is a massive jump from a 970
It's worth it, 36% faster, only costs 22% more and has 17% more ram, the numbers make it clear as day! Every tech site confirms this...
>>344154157
>doesn't know how economics work
>>344154521
It's idle power, genius.
>>344154428
No
Get the non-reference 490/x
>>344154414
>where does the nuclear waste go
Buried in cement like we've always done, which is better than coal making our environment filthy like China and changing the Ph levels of our oceans
>2 million dollars compared to coal
Where the cost is converted into lower quality of life and higher healthcare costs for millions of people
Nuclear is superior, deal with it buddy
>>344147989
>Nvidia in charge of graphs
>>344154384
Never believe in those game ready drivers, i allways saw them as a patch to correct the shit they made wrong, and sometimes as a way to force you to keep upgrading.
>So if you want the best of the best and have too much money to spend and plan on upgrading again within 2 years, go NVIDIA.
>If you don't want your card to stop gaining performance after 1-2 years and aren't gaming at 4K res, go with AMD.
sounds fair enough.
>>344154665
Buying cards and selling them at a loss every other year is a poor financial decision.
Although the 1070 has twice the RAM, not 17% more. Actually 160%
>>344147465
>special limited founders edition
what the fuck does that even mean? I've been out of the PC hardware loop since the 560ti/HD 6950, someone please explain it to me.
>>344154665
Don't forget you get to be part of glorious thousand master race instead of hundreds peasant
>>344154719
WAIT FOR THE 490!!! IT WILL KILL THE 1080.
My fucking sides anon. You lot are like a stuck record.
Spend forever waiting then get delivered a turd
>>344154708
fuck off
turn off your PC at night if you care that much
>>344147465
When will the 1070 be its MSRP?
>>344154554
build a $250 rig
>>344154818
I paid £199 for my 970. I have been offered £150 for it 2nd hand. Not bad for something I used for 2 years.
>>344154893
See >>344150906 , genius.
>>344147465
>$249
Wat. The 980ti is still ~$400.
>>344154885
Where did I say it will kill the 1080?
Are you retarded or just pretending to be retarded?
>AMDcucks still haven't killed themselves
>>344154929
so that means xbox is still better right you dumbfuck for the cost
>>344155018
Just as retarded as telling someone to buy a card thats not even been 100% confirmed no do you know the specs of.
>>344154384
/thread
>>344155041
Why would you spend $250 on video gaming platform? That's like buying a car for $2000.
>>344152473
Founder Edition is disgusting. But AMD did the same... The first batch of 4GB were rebranded 8GB, that card is basically unfindable anywhere I've looked so it's fair to say it was a marketer trick.
Moreover the RX480 8GB, the only one you can buy in France. Is way more pricy than what they announced.
I'm utterly disgusted by both brand at this point.
>>344154841
You get to pay more for buying it early.
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>344154968
your monitors consume way more than that. Maybe you should not have dual monitors if 5 bucks per year in electricity cost is a problem for you
>>344154841
It's collector edition bro. Except you don't get anything more than with the standard version.
I have a 970 at the moment.
Should I wait for a price drop before getting a 1070? Is a 1070 even a good upgrade? Will there even be a price drop?
>>344147465
>5.5GB AGAIN
AMD invented x64 CPU and APU, why do they keep losing? Where's your new innovation AMD?
>>344152217
>The 2.5gb and 5.5GB meme again
>>344155475
What game do you play that a 970 isn't enough?
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52932/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-1060-ready-battle-radeon-rx-480/index.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=tweaktown
TWO AND HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE FOUNDERS EDITION FUCKING CONFIRMED HAHAHAHAHHA
>>344151437
dx12 is legitimately almost identical to vulkan. you can browse the official docs and compare them to the vulkan spec, most of the text is just copy pasted.
that's because both APIs are derivatives of mantle with many minor and a only ver few major differences.
>>344155242
>Moreover the RX480 8GB, the only one you can buy in France. Is way more pricy than what they announced.
You can buy RX 480 from any other EU country and have it shipped to ya.
German are known to have cheaper RX480.
Also, 4GB will most likely be widely available when Samsung actually start producing low density chip and partner boards will most likely have their own version with 4GB.
For god sake, its only been less than 10days since RX480 launched.
>>344154841
Instead of giving their card a shitty reference cooler, they give it an okay one, but jew an extra $50 (or $70/$100 in the case of 1070/1080 respectively) for it. Usually the reference card is the only one that sells for the MSRP at release, while aftermarket cards have a $10-30 premium over the MSRP, but in this case, you get the reference card for $50 above the MSRP, aftermarket cards for $10-30 above the MSRP and no cards for MSRP.
>>344155393
About 20W isn't usual for a 1080p monitor. So "way more" isn't really accurate.
It's funny that you turned the $30 value I calculated for the guy who pays $0.10/kWh into $5. You don't need to defend AMD so desperately.
>>344155475
Depending of the games you play I would advise to wait for next gen, skipping a gen is usually good way to save money. Especially now we are at a turning point with vr and 4k trying to get mainstream yet the hardware is not ready.
>>344155703Dying Light.
>>344149431
Its not about paying less for electricity its about temperatures, less power -> less heat.
>>344155851
>About 20W isn't unusual
fixed
>>344148337
>>344154780
>>344151336
>>344155897
Add bf4, witcher3 to that too. 970 cant handle them maxed out
>>344155918
then why not just put a heat output chart?
This is misleading and confusing as fuck.
>>344155168
what's wrong with buying a car for $2000
>>344147465
DELET THIS.
>/v/ hates mainstream shit and jews
>loves intel and nvidia
lel
>>344155975
You're hired.
t. Nvidia
>>344155802
>giving my money to krauts
>>344153338
>270
No expect them to initially be 30% or more than nvidias bullshit MSRP. And that's for Americans who don't get raped by their commie Eurotrash governments.
>>344156032
>not building your car for $1500
>>344156064
AMD is the one with an R&D facility in Israel, you know.
>>344156137
if you live in europe you're constantly giving them money already.
The UK were the smart ones.
>>344155513
They also invented tesselation and HBM
They give the technology away for the advancement of the industry instead of hoarding it secretly and burying anything they can't profit off, which is what nvidia does.
>>344156008
Almost 100% of the power consumed by electronics is turned into heat. Power consumption *is* heat output.
>>344156173
doesn't mean squat when you look at the way they act compared to jewvidia and jewtel.
> people looking at expensive high end graphic card yet play on 5 years old 60hz monitor
> people thinking having every setting set to max is a must
>>344156168
think you missed a 0 off the end
>>344156283
Nope, caterhams are that cheap to make.
I bought my computer in January 2012. Is it time to upgrade? If so, what do I upgrade? The CPU and the graphics card? I've never tried buying just parts and then putting them in by myself but I heard it's basically just plugging something in, so there's not much you can do wrong.
AMD Phentom(tm) II X4-960T Processor 3Ghz
8 GB Ram
AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series Graphics Card
>>344156245
And what kind of math i have to do to translate that into heat measurement?
Why not just put the chart in °C-°F instead?
>>344156341
>phantom
>>344156449
sorry
>>344156341
Everything except your ram is not up to date.
>AMD literally cannot compete with their 2 rivals Intel and Nvidia
AMD bankruptcy when
>>344156487
YOU FUCKING WILL BE!
>>344156008
It's really logical to conclude that less power equates less heat.
>>344150980
Fuck. Me too
How should I redeem myself? Sell this 1070 when I just bought it?
>>344156551
>AMD release their shit between generations
>AMDfags instantly yell that they 'win' the succeeding generation
>Nvidia releases their own shit for that generation
>AMDfags go quiet
Every fucking generation like clockwork.
>>344156536
Also, I have a 128 GB SSD for my OS and a 1 TB HDD for everything else, but they are getting sorta full. (Although maybe I just need to clean up all the bullshit.)
I know nothing about building a PC. How do I know if there is room for another internal hard drive?
>>344155851
thanks for clearing things up for me. gonna buy a PS4 Neo now. fuck this monkey business!
>>344156569
yes, but how much in degrees?
Thats is the answer i want, because with that information i could make some calculations, like how many fans i need to add or something.
Power consumption only tells me that chart is for a guy who lives in a place with expensive electricity.
>>344147465
except the amd card is cheaper and performs the same.
>>344156341
Your socket is too old
When you get limited by your cpu it will be time to change everything.
I would get a ssd to gain dome confort it don't age.
A high end gpu will get bottlenecked by the cpu at some point, get a second hand 970 in October.
>>344149431
Less electricity cost, lower temps with same cooling capacity, less heat to evacuate from the case... It's only positives.
>>344156694
amdfags are busy playing games with their cards while nvidia fags are shilling on forums because nvidia latest driver broke their card.
>>344156872
>amdfags are busy playing games
But you're here.
NVIDIOTS BTFO
>>344155975
That grapg confuses me. Theres no legend to explain the bottom scale. Is it power times 1.x?
>>344156414
because depending on the regional seaon, climate, room cooling system (fan or air conditioning) the measured results may change?
>>344156872
>>344150326
the difference between 1080 and 1070
>>344157068
>>344156847
>*results may vary
So its worth shit unless you care for the power bill.
I knew it.
>>344149431
What others have said plus noise reduction and increased longevity on paper.
>>344157058
like speed, gigabytes and megapixels you
>>344156328
Theyre from about 12-15k to make start off prices. I know I hhelped a friend part do one.
>>344157147
>>So its worth shit unless you care for the power bill.
do you understand the importance of temperature for electronics?
>>344157147
And the rest of your pc too. That and the fact you need a/c or a fan running to cool the room down as its pushing leg burning heat out.
>>344157147
What do you mean results may vary? 150w tdp takes more cooling power than 100w tdp 100% of the time.
>>344157395
>>344157391
>>344157235
>>344157161
I still dont see the reason, if you have more heat, you put more fans, its not rocket science.
>>344147465
760 fag here, how much of an upgrade would this be?
>>344154384
Shitposters BTFO
Fucking fanboys and shills. Why do these threads always turn into flamewars?
>>344157525
do you understand the importance of noise for users?
>>344155975
Top kek
>>344157525
and make your PC sound like a jet taking off? Pass.
>>344154414
Nuclear waste is buried under concrete and newer reactors can reuse nuclear waste as more fuel.
it is way better than coal/oil for the enviornment
>nvidiot tax far more than the MSRP
>5.5GB RAM
>shit software
>proprietary adaptive sync meaning you have to buy an overpriced monitor with nvidias chips in them
no thanks. ill take a 480 or wait for a 490 or something.
>>344157094
http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/417802,gefail-nvidia8217s-driver-fiasco.aspx
>"Nvidia needs to slow down its driver releases. It needs to ensure that every driver is tested, certified and released on its OWN schedule – not to coincide with whatever game it has been paid (or is paying) to create a profile for"
>>344157637
>>344157719
So this is how we do a full circle.
Yes i do, but in my case i use server fans, wich are noisy as fuck and all fans at 100% all the time, and i dont care because i use headphones, so i dont hear it, and i also prefer to damage a fan instead of the component.
So... This is for someone who wants to play using speakers and want the computer runs quietly. this is the final result in all this bullshit.
Now i know why i didnt care in the 1st place.
>>344157808
The only thing strong about Nvidia is its marketing arm
>>344157058
X meme-performance compared to Y
>>344157889
>Now i know why i didnt care in the 1st place.
you care enough to keep track of this thread
>>344157808
https://youtu.be/k79V1-VQGOQ
1060 on paper, the 480 looks dead in the water.
Also wait for the 490.... yep because thats been 100% confirmed for release hasnt it.
Whats to say the 490 will be significantly better? they released the 480 with significant flaws which they claim they didnt see. I would hold out much for these
>>344157889
Who says your components ain't gonna take damage from thermal stress? There is literally 0 downside to using less power if all else is equal.
>>344157094
Please delete this
>>344158004
>significant flaws that get patched with a software update and actually increase performance for every card
>meanwhile nvidia cards rely on software updates and developers using their proprietary tech only for the newest cards to achieve performance gains
>>344157889
yep because running the fans puts 0 stress on the mobo.
Theres mongs and then theres people like you
>>344158175
Are the patches out yet? has anyone done any benchmarks using the new patch yet?
What they say and what really happens is very different.
>>344157986
This thread is not about power consumption, its about the performance of the cards, some random anon put that power target chart as something we should take care of, and i started to ask why because i dont, but i still wanted the answer.
Dont worry, it wont happen again.
>>344158130
>low-average performance with low heat and low noise
>high performance with medium heat and high noise
I can OC the componets and it will last the same if i get them cool enough.
>>344158263
>not using an external power supply for the fans if you go this far
Off course it will kill a mobo in weeks.
>>344147465
should i just buy a 980 Ti when they become cheaper to replace my 970 when the new line comes out?
really disappointed with the 480
>>344147465
>GTX 1060
>The performance of a GTX 980
...Why not just buy a 980 then?
>>344158454
Because its not the lastest shit anon.
Also, like i read before, they abandon drivers optimization, so you will see a difference in the long run.
>>344158454
Does a 980 have VRAM: 6GB GDDR5 ?
