Why is this game considered untouchable but the 2 sequels with all the exact same issues plus improvements are so widely attacked by fans?
Like crying about RE6 not being scary is retarded as it implies RE4 is scary when it isn't for example you always have plenty of ammo and over the shoulder is inherently not scary, even Evil Within succeeds as a better horror game than RE4, while RE5 and 6 are better action games.
Better characters, better environments
Because RE4 was most of /v/'s first RE game.
>>344146778
RE4 had a sinister atmosphere, RE5 was a generic third person shooter. didn't play RE6 because RE5 was so fucking bad, but from footage i've seen it doesn't look much better.
RE5 is ok but nowhere near as groundbreaking and Africa is just boring as fuck.
RE6 has fucking terrible campaigns with way too much QTE garbage, cramped level design and shoddy pacing and story.
Because of them ballistics
forced co-op (with AI)
that's it
>>344147202
RE5 is basically RE4 with updated graphics and I'm completely fine with that. Besides, you get to fight Wesker.
>>344147213
This
>>344147213
RE6 has better story,characters and gameplay.
It also has Nemesis in HD.
Inb4 b8 this is all objectively true.
>>344147323
with updated graphics and minus any of the pacing, level design, fun boss fights, inventory management and charming characters of 4.
It's an inferior game in every way except visually.
>>344146778
When I played this game long time ago, I couldn't help but think
>what if 3d castlevania is like this?
Instead of the 3d castlevanias going for god of war style combat and gameplay, it'd have RE4's gameplay pace and the guns are replaced with whips and you'd just explore a castle like you did in RE4.
>>344147350
It has minor improvements to the controls, but the gameplay itself isn't better. Which is often why it's considered the worst, because it's boring to play.
>>344147323
RE5 is not basically RE4 at all. it's a completely different game that shares absolutely none of the artistic vision that RE4 had. the only way someone could think something like this is if they were very young and stupid.
>>344147191
This
>>344147350
>RE6 has better story,characters and gameplay.
You can make an argument for better nuts and bolts combat, but you are fucking retarded if you're seriously going to argue that the level design, pacing and story is good.
RE4 has one of THE greatest openings to ever grace a video game, RE6 has one of the absolute worst.
>>344146778
>6
>improvements
i didnt know that turning RE into full-on cowadooty trash was an improvement
>>344147549
I love both RE4 and RE5. Still hate RE6.
RE4 is a game where you shoot plague zombies in the face and then follow up with a kick. RE5 is a game where you shoot plague zombies in the face and then follow up with a punch. They're basically the same except for their settings and atmosphere.
>added coop
>removed inventory tetris
>more enemies with guns
>forced coop/always AI partner
>no unlockables in RE6
that's all i can think of.
the setting of RE5 and RE6 are also not as good as weird spanish town with weird cult and secret island
I actually liked RE6 but chinese clown zombies was a bit much.
>>344147549
>RE4
>artistic vision
Nigger you're fucking retarded. The RE4 that we got wasn't even what was originally planned.
>>344147350
>re6
>better anything
yeah, its so great having TWO, not just one, but TWO QTE's within the first 5 mins of Leon's campaign - one for placing a wood plank, and one to open a god damn door
fuck you, RE6 is fucking shit, kill yourself, you trash consuming maggot
>>344146778
>new and interesting enemies that are designed around the gameplay
>inventory management and shopkeeper
>enough QTEs that you might not like them yet don't quite get sick of them if you do
>expert level design and pacing
>no A.I. partner to back you up, leaving you to fend for yourself most of the time; Ashley is close, but it's escort thing and not an armed backup like Shiva
>plays up the tension and atmosphere compared to 5 and 6 which are straight "ooga booga scary monster is scary" tier
>Leon's dialogue and character are the perfect middleground between being self-aware and horror savvy while also being a b-movie action star complete with one-liners; doesn't take himself too seriously
>story is completely different and original in comparison to the first trilogy and can stand well on it's own without previous games
Re4's only flaws were the Island where it becomes too actiony and being a game that was way too much fun for this world
Charm factor. RE5 and 6 feel incredibly dull in comparison.
>>344147947
And thank god. Original RE4 was sucking hard cock. Instead we got on of the best games ever made.
>>344147801
You talking about 4 friend?
>>344147947
>Nigger you're fucking retarded. The RE4 that we got wasn't even what was originally planned.
Games literally you go through revisions all the time.
Devil May Cry was originally RE4 aswell.
>>344146778
Better story, better characters, better setting, better atmosphere, no co-op and it didn't have as much action as RE5. RE6 went full Michael Bay.
>>344147837
i cannot even begin to imagine being this ignorant. if you think you can whittle down that game to one simple combat mechanic then you are blind to the environment around you and the details that truly make the game good. i will pray for your soul.
The opinion is divided on who liked RE4, 5, and 6. But I think the real question is if RE7 will be any good since it's not even really a resident evil game. It's more like a game about evil residents.
>>344148043
I would argue that cracks were beginning to show already in the castle, but yeah the island just completely shits the bed time after time.
I'm a little on the fence regarding bosses when comparing 4 and 5. 5 had a weird fixation with turrets.
>>344148521
I would rather have another RE6 than to have the SHITPILE youtube clickbait """"horror"""" PT ripoff RE7 is going to be.
>>344147885
I'm with you on that. I enjoyed playing 6 but when it went off the rails it went off them hard.
See also: giant silent hill style melting face boss
>>344148521
the demo isn't an indication of the final product (except for graphics controls and technical stuff like that)
i think it's a shame.
resident evil has always been about the characters, i assume we will get no cutscenes and the main character will be silent.
first person also means no unlockable costumes and probably no unlockable fun guns
i also doubt that it will be a very actiony first person shooter, however i can't see dodging zombies work really well in first person.
so it's gonna be a shitty hide out of line of sight kinda stealth game with some puzzles and some shooting/melee every now and then.
RE4 has better everything, by a landslide. Better atmosphere, better pacing, better characters, and most of all, no stupid co-op.
>>344148436
I actually liked both the Spanish setting and the African setting. Having a co-op partner was fun even if I would have preferred it to be optional like in Dead Space 3. Great improvements to gameplay. Horror suffers, I admit, but it's still an overall great game. I still play both. Not all Resident Evil games need to copy RE4's style.
>>344148763
The coop was pretty damn solid if played as couch coop.
>>344147323
the wesker bullshits made me fucking hate the series even more
>>344148850
So you've hated the series since Code Veronica, or since RE1?
>>344147350
>better story
nope
>>344148521
Personally I think a first person Resident Evil that follows the RE1 design blueprint could be really fucking cool.
>>344147446
if it's develop by japs it's going to suck
>>344148925
Not him, but I quite liked how the different campaigns intersected. Overall story quality was a bit all over the place, but it had good parts to it if nothing else.
>>344149010
Nope. Try again.
>>344146778
well I was legit scared during the first part where the mob of angry spaniards tried to storm over the house. that shit scared me.
RE5 had no tension other than i was killing niggers left and right which was fun
RE6 was Gears of War: QTE edition
>>344148779
RE5 is anything but a great game. it's a boring third person shooter that is completely detached from the source material it claims to spawn from.
Beginning RE5 was pretty cool, what with all the dindus staring ominously at you when you went through the first level.That's how I imagine it be like when you're white and you walk through black ghettos.
>>344147213
>nd Africa is just boring as fuck.
It wasn't supposed to be. Capcom self censored. If you read up on the games pre-release articles and see the original trailer it is clear they wanted to do something much different. It's just that RE5 was one of the first games SJW cried wolf over.
>>344149067
Not him, but I quite liked how the different campaigns intersected. Overall story quality was a bit all over the place, but it had good parts to it if nothing else.
>>344148919
CV was fine
fuck what they implemented for the shitty ps2 version ,not him
>>344148925
I can't even remember what happened in 4, there was girl shouting me to save her every second and that some midget in a napoleon hat then everything blurs.
>>344146778
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AEGJwR5tH7k
>>344148382
So shut the fuck up then and learn what the term artistic vision means before you spew your bullshit.
I played RE4 for the first time the other day.
Tank controls took me a long-ass time to get used to, it wasn't very scary except for the solo-Ashley parts, and the pacing went to shit during the Island but it was a fun ride; less the final jetski action sequence whose deceptive difficulty caused me to die repeatedly, undermining its tension.
Are the sequels much worse?
>>344149296
After Dwarf Napoleon dies the story loses all the fun.
>zombies with guns
>pew pew pew
>sixty hour long QTE
>giant spider boss
>jetski racing
>"I don't bang girls" -Leon
Literally the only thing RE4 did right was no forced co-op. If Capcom stuck with the original plan to make RE5 a single player game, it would've blown RE4 the fuck out.
>>344146778
My problem with RE4 is not even the gameplay, it's the fact that it's when the plot started going to shit, along with code veronica I guess. I don't think Capcom knew how to handle the plot post Racoon City.
>>344147947
that has nothing to do with what i said. RE4 is like a handcrafted product compared to RE5 which is a run of the mill factory made product. the fact that it was scrapped so many times is a testament to the passion put into it.
>>344148536
I'd say 4 had way better bosses. 5 had wesker which was fun by itself. But 4 had the chief, u3, salazar, the fish, the giants, and verigo, with saddler being the weakest. Each was at least fun, but I dreaded fighting the uroboros again on subsequent playthroughs no matter what.
RE4 did everything better besides gameplay, and that is still excellent.
>>344149559
You sound like a retard.
>>344149379
5 is heavily coop focused, which ruins the horror parts due to either bad AI making you frustrated or your buddy making you laugh. The boss fights are weaker but the guns are better than in 4. Special zombie quality is about the same as 4, some are terrifying while others are just kinda there. Nothing to really match the Regenerator though.
6 is more fast paced and action focused, with many characters with different playstyles. QTEs get out of hand sadly, but you get to play a whole campaign as pseudo-Wesker.
>>344149296
all i remember of 5 is
>chriss pounching a bulder
>jill its only jill in name . different face different everything
>have to escort a annoying worthless piece of shit nigger
>capcom going full retard with the story (wesker being fucking retarded)
>some hot girl i forgot
>that boss that takes 40 minutes because your AI partner is fucking retarded and follow you
>>344149379
>Are the sequels much worse?
yes
Revelations 2 was alright though. Rev 1 was dull as hell.
>>344149607
Personally I'd rank Salazar as the weakest in 4, followed by U3 and Saddler. U3's fight isn't really that good, only the chase is.
>>344149638
i still wonder why everyone finds the regenerators scary
>>344149457
i have one of the resident evil co-op games for PS3 atm and its fucking retarded that you cant play offline with friends just like in CoD Zombies where you just join the game with no internet whatsoever. so had to play it as singleplayer anyways >:/
>>344149379
If you liked RE4 then the sequels are passable, nothing more.
>>344149365
No, you shut the fuck up.
Complaining about "muh artistic vision" is fucking retarded when it comes to video games, it's one of the mediums that go through some of the absolute biggest revisions due to how constrained it is compared to books or movies.
The original Donkey Kong was originally supposed to be a Popeye game. If you're going to bitch about artistic vision then go fucking play stuff only made by one person like Undertale.
>>344149761
-most people fall for the leg shooting trap and have to deal with their sudden extra mobility
-cramped spaces
-long-ass reach in a game where most enemies will just retard rush you and can be walked around no problem
-without the thermal scope they are hell to kill
-even with it you need to realize the last point is on their back
-instant kill attacks on the upgraded variant
They are the enemy most worth fearing in the game
>>344147350
Why is all of /v/ so obsessed with this balding capeshit actor?
>>344149923
I'm not bitching about artistic vision you dumb fuck. Go back and read.
RE4 had no artistic vision.
>>344149631
nothing left to say?
>>344149736
I like u3 cause he's the only thing that still manages to be a threat through most replays and he acts most like an old school re boss monster.
>>344149670
At least Rev 1 and 2 attempt some horror unlike RE4
REV 2 even succeeds somewhat except you have Barry the Tank.
>>344150004
>RE4 had no artistic vision
Hmm yeah sure.
I guess that's why ten years later games are still taking ideas RE4 introduced, and why people called stuff like Dead Space a "RE4 clone" when it came out?
>>344150309
>RE4 invented third person view
Make like a tree and kys.
>>344149930
>-even with it you need to realize the last point is on their back
Wait, really?
I'm >>344149379 and after encountering the first few regenerators (which I blew to pieces in panicked horror, with a flashbang and several rounds of shotgun ammo apiece) I upgraded my bolt-action rifle to max. With that, plus the thermal scope, they posed absolutely no threat whatsoever. I basically stunlocked them to death.
>>344149638
>>344149670
>>344149905
I might see if I can wrangle a friend to tackle 5 and 6 then.
Thanks. Shame Capcom lost the spark.
>>344150404
RE4 basically popularized over the shoulder aiming.
Not that you would remember what TPS games were like before RE4 though.
RE4 had balance. You fucks always forget this.
>>344150408
With a strong enough gun (magnum/bolt action rifle) you can hit right through the whole thing.
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>>344150572
I remember when I used to read magazines for info on re4 and besides a lot of the cut shit that I wish still made it in, I remember one saying that it's new aim system was abysmal and saying it would never stick like previous ideas on the project. I wonder how they feel nowadays?
>>344150408
>I upgraded my bolt-action rifle to max. With that, plus the thermal scope, they posed absolutely no threat whatsoever. I basically stunlocked them to death.
this is what i did always
and never got problems with keeping distancealways liked snipers but never enjoyed camping
>>344150572
>not that you would remember
you remember every little shit game you played when you was a teenager?
>>344150745
>Has to resort to nothing but insults.
I'll take that as a yes.
>>344151003
Take it as a "Fuck you you're a retard and I refuse to engage with you any further than I already have"
>>344151052
i'm not him but sure thing buddy, was curious onlyi dont even remember playing dino crisis and i own it for dreamcast
>>344151052
So yes then.
>>344146778
There ain't a single instance in 5 or 6 where you can barricade a house.
>>344151273
Chapter 1-1
Sherry and Jake campaign
>>344151273
You can in 5 though, you shove bookcases at the start.
>>344151273
>I never played either game
Why do retards like you even bother posting?
>>344149516
RE4 was completely benign to the overall plot. It was every other game's inability to follow up to RE4 that was what developed into the problem with the series' plot.
Here's what RE4 said that impacts the global plot. "Umbrella got their ass served in court and stopped functioning as a publicly traded business" and "Wesker and Krauser still have plans that involve Umbrella"
This both entered a notion that Umbrella had been inactive for a time, and seeded a potential resurgence after RE4. Because you see, all the previous games were set in 1998, and it was 2005 when RE4 was released. The game, if they wanted to be contemporary, had to explain a timejump and didn't bog itself down with an exposition series of yearly to quarterly filler events just to make Umbrella seem evil at rest. Future games could've picked that up and moved on with other plot threads at their leisure from RE4.
But when RE5 was coming along you could smell the absolute desperation to aggrandize the BSAA. Which means retconning out the perfectly sensible timely reaction by the US government following their extreme measures to sterilize Raccoon City with "Jill and Chris personally stormed every known stronghold Umbrella kept between the years 1999 and 2008 in order to provide evidence that the government could use against Umbrella in court, but also Wesker was there and stole everything first." like three times into the gap. And after retconning Umbrella to death, killed Wesker, the series only remaining protagonist. Which launched a mad scramble to retcon and follow up with a new villain. So much they just said "Look there's another Wesker".
>le RE4 is bad meme
Get fucked, nerd
>>344146778
>Why is this game considered untouchable but the 2 sequels with all the exact same issues plus improvements are so widely attacked by fans?
I don't remember RE4 having turret sections or an outback motorcycle chase section OR forced Co op for 100%
>over a decade later and there are still autistic purist mad about re4
