Is there actually any excuse to play him in comp?
Honest question.
>Is there actually any excuse to play him
No.
Kinda.
>Scatter Arrow can instagib 200 HP heroes
>Sonic Arrow can highlight enemy heroes on a small CD
>Dragonstrike clears a point better than D.Va
if you're good enough you can make things work with him, otherwise no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnyoymCwSWA
>people hate TF2 huntsman players
>make a class literally about just that
>has burst arrow and a giant "arrow" that goes through walls
>>344103021
He pairs ridiculously, STUPIDLY well with Zarya and there's no real defense against it
So yes, there very much is
Yesonly on console lol.
>>344103021
On console? Sure. Since his extra hit box for arrows is a massive advantage.
On PC? Fuck no. Widowmaker is vastly better.
Hanzo is actually a really good midrange DPS character that is better than all other midrangers at long, and not defenseless up close. However, this is only the case in the hands of an absolute master. 99% of players of the game will be better off with Soldier 76 in their hands.
In the case of a master Hanzo, he will also be a master soldier 76 player, as a master Hanzo just has so many hours in the game. The reason that you would pick Hanzo in this situation is that he has that "x-factor" where if all the pieces fall into place in a certain fight, and you land like 2 or 3 really quick headshots, you completely eliminate multiple enemy team members way faster than anyone else can.
I know it's an epic meme to go "DUDE HANZO SUX STOP PICKING HIM", but if I see him in casuals I respect the pick because niggas have gotta practice somewhere, and if I see it in ranked, and the guy is actually good at him, I respect the pick too.
>>344103021
You can easily make fags cry see >>344103221
>>344105410
>>344105410
>also infinite ammo
>can just throw arrows at the point or towards the payload and get free kills
>then shoot dragons at the point or payload every thirty seconds.
Is there any point in playing comp after I placed? Besides the dumb comp points for the "golden guns"? I get all the other rewards just for placing right?
No, there is no reason to use hanzo. There's nothing he can do that other heroes can't do vastly better, and he hard counters noone.
>>344103021
He's fun to playagainst AIs.
I pick him on payload defence. Easy headshots all day.
Widow is superior everywhere else I find.
>>344106721
>Is there any point in playing comp after I placed?
Only reason I continue to play comp is because people leave less often.
>>344106090
rare to see a reasonable post
I learned to take it easy in this game honestly.
>>344103394
>can
>can
>can
That's the problem. Nobody sticks around for his dragonstrikes either.
>>344103021
Yes there is but I'm not really that good of an analyzer to tell you why/when. All I know is people who play this for actual money use Hanzo sometimes. Even torbjorn. Just rarely.
Is there any reason to pick her ever?
>>344108815
on defense for the first point
>>344108815
if they removed her dress and covered her face id ask someone to pick her every game.
>>344108340
Scatter and Sonic arrows are easy enough to use. Dragonstrikes don't need to hit anything to be effective.
>>344108815
Play a waifu with autism that got a nice brown butt.
>>344108815
She's essential on defense for any map that has more than 2 points.
>>344103021
He's better than widow now.
>>344108815
She's invaluable on some defense maps like the first point of Hanamura or Numbani. Not to mention if her turrets are placed right ,and your team is around, Symmetra can wreck entire teams with her gun
>>344108228
This. People get so bootyblasted over quick match picks. How else are you supposed to play with minimal - zero stakes?
>>344106090
Finally someone that shares my view that Hanzo is basically Soldier 76 without the training wheels.
>>344106090
This is true, played against a team that went 2 hanzos on both attack and defense for Watchpoint Gibraltar. They had godlike aim, we literally couldn't do anything because they'd pick us off before we could even deal with their Reinhardt defending everyone. Not to mention fucking dragons flying around every 15 seconds because there were 2 of them.
>>344103528
no crosshair?
Maybe on offense for Gibraltar to make sure nobody is trying to be cheeky to get a pick or lots of damage to build Ult. Sonic Arrow catches anyone trying to hide in house to flank and you can probably punish them by throwing in a scatter immediately afterwards.
Other than that, unless you are a fucking God with your scatters, don't bother. You can get more work done with anyone else.
>>344108815
I think she's good at killing attackers that leak through. If her teammates are taking down the more dangerous heroes, then the Tracers, Genjis, etc. that try to go around often run into her setup and the car wash cleans them up. She's essentially the last key to an often-impenetrable defense.
>>344108815
Teleporters are nice. Lasers have a slow effect which can piss off roaming flankers. Alt fire does a fuckload of damage and makes for great suppressing fire.
>>344108815
If you want to lose.
>Scatter arrow OP
>Can spam arrows down chokes get easy headshots
>Either zone the enemy team or get kills with his fast charging ult
He's pretty good.
>>344106090
I like your attitude anon why are there not more with your attitude
>>344103021
Can you aim?
>Yes
Play him.
>No
Don't play him.
>>344113997
This, to be rather honest with you all.
When you've got someone who can actually aim, and consistently get head shots, he's amazing.
literally "No fun allowed: The Hero"
>>344103021
Honest response, if you ever see the Bastion x Reinhartd combo and your team is too brain dead to get past them, you could tell them to fuck off or kill them and be able to move forward.
That's all I got really.
>>344103528
Posting Seagull isnt fair anon
>>344113750
I found the shit player
> join solo queue game after losing streak
> level 75, feeling confident in most hero choices
> 3 mcrees and a hanzo on dorado attack, all below level 45
we got decimated. no mic or chat communication. I haven't been this frustrated in awhile. I get 4 gold medals or "90% game on fire" badges but still get knocked down a full rank. I'm at 40 now.
>>344116072
Why the fuck would you keep playing if you just kept losing over and over.
>>344103021
Mob boss told you to throw the match.
>>344116173
this has been at the rate of about 2 games a night since the patch. I took a 4 day break, and just played one right before posting this. I want to play (and enjoy) competitive so badly, but I get paired with random downies every damn time
>>344103021
>check /v/ before leaving for work
>hanzo bitching thread
>get home after work, check /v/
>hanzo bitching thread
fuck this game and fuck you
>>344103021
His ult is both good area denial and really fucks the enemy team on choke points
>>344116465
Big reason i'm not going to touch comp is what you've been experiencing. Especially since i'm a support/tank main.
>>344116465
Get friends then. Don't queue with downies.
>>344113750
She has a >60% win-rate, anon. She's the best character.
>>344103394
You mean scatter arrow can OS any sub 400hp hero ? This shit killed my full hp zarya
>>344117019
How is that even calculated? If people don't switch out it's because the other team is garbage and they would have won with anyone. Her turrets can be destroyed without effort and take too long to place, and her alt fire is easily avoidable.
>>344103021
I play him solely because other people want to play him
and other people suck at the game.
Even though I main Reindhardt, if some shitter wants to pick hanzo, I'm playing Hanzo.
I literally always outplay those retards and they wonder why when theyre aim is pure dogshit
>>344103021
I'm sick and tired of people hating on Hanzo
>>344108815
Holy shit that fucking picture
>>344109470
>more than 2 points
???
>>344103021
abuse his ridiculously large hitboxes
>>344116921
fuck off normalscum
No he is literal garbage
And "he's the only character I'm good at" Isn't an excuse because mei's right click is the same exact thing as his arrows
>>344117331
It's probably mostly the teleporter and maybe even the shield. 25 doesn't seem like a lot but it used to be 50 in the beta and it was broken.
>>344103021
Yes, just play your favorite character to the best of your ability. You aren't playing just to win by having a good team composition and playing with a shitty character you don't like, right?
>>344118156
Pretty much this. The comp meta is have double tank, double healer for the most part so even if he hits you, you won't die.
It's interesting really. Competitive teams are playing extra defensively because characters like Winston (highly mobile tank/flanker) and Reinhardt are nigh impossible to kill with all the shitty auto-aim/insta-kill ultimates running around.
>>344114304
>head shots
lol what
Even the good Hanzo players I've seen just body people to fucking death with 1 second full charge arrows. You get a headshot ? great, then whoever it was is dead 10 times over.
Oh you missed the person you're shooting at by around a foot, foot and a half ? That's alright, we gave the arrow a hitbox the size of most of the casts chest, so you can't miss.
:^)
>70 damage long-range headshots
>140 damage medium-close range
>can move around while sniping people
>has a stun
>can disable channeled abilities and ults
>has a dash that reloads his bullets
>right-click melts barriers and bubble shields
>ultimate has great flank and combo potential and is just plain good on its own
>ultimate can be threatened for 50%, free area denial
All of this for the low, low price of being able to aim.
>>344119098
>has a dash that reloads his bullets
damn didn't know that
>>344119098
any videos? I cant seem to make him work. He has all the tools to beat most heroes but he has no mobility and average HP. With 76 i can heal run around and other shit but with mccree all i get is a roll that doesn't have any invul iirc.
>>344103021
luminosity plays two of them on payload maps
>>344119098
Did they ever nerf him? I haven't played in a few weeks, but he was faceroll broken with his OP as fuck combo.
This is where I was standing when a scatter arrow killed me as Zarya. Tell me I deserved it
>>344120053
Yes,
individual shots from FtH now do less than individual primary fire shots
>>344119553
Don't have any videos on queue but I'll give you some tips. Yeah it's unfortunately his roll doesn't have any invuln but it actually goes farther than you think. You can escape a lot of shit or suddenly be in flash range before anyone can react.
Scum cover a lot. Helps to bait out things like hooks, and when you're dinking people for 140 around a corner there's nothing they can really do. For example against a full team, dink the healer or tank a couple times around the corner, then wait for the offence guys to push or overcommit and hit them with the flash+headshot+melee for 195. Pretty easy kill. You can even skip the melee and go for a second headshot which is hard to avoid.
Your mobility sucks but because you do so much damage you don't need to be as flanky as 76 to get those crucial early hits. You can stay with your team and pretty much deny Tracers and Genjis from touching your healer. You can also pressure enemies but just walking forward within flash range. You don't actually have to flash them, but the threat of the flash forces them to back off. This actually puts people in the perfect range for McCree to melt everyone.
Practice headshotting jumping opponents, it's really easy to line up free damage on people who think jumping is a good way of dodging.
His ult is REALLY fucking good. Get a fat flank, line 'em up, and go to town. Don't be afraid to throw it out just to force enemy ults, and then cancel it. People either run for the hills, or overcommit in which case don't be afraid to just use it, and then push. You get it really fast if you're hitting a lot of shots.
And finally my best tip is BAIT TEAMMATES. All the fucking time. Just hang out with your bruisers around corners, wait for someone to push them and get free frags. Your teammates will love you and their offence classes will stay dead 24/7.
>>344116072
>rank 40
It's ogre anon, better get good at a pubstomper or find friends
>play roadhog
>1 shot a tracer with my alternate fire when she's harassing me at medium range
>>344120139
You deserved it.
>>344120697
How do you cancel the ult? Just not shoot and wait it out?
>>344121691
Just right click.
>gonzo 3 star difficulty
>pharah is 1 star
>>344107675
Impossible, I just played 3 matches.
2 of them my teammates quit
Last night there was a Hanzo on the enemy team that was insane. This motherfucker decimated or team singehandedly. He caused so much trouble that our teamwork broke down and everyone scattered trying to find a way to nuetrelize him. Fucker was so good I wasn't even mad.
That being said, most Hanzos just fuck your team over.
>>344119460
huh, I thought the stun/alt fire/roll/alt fire again combo was pretty much common knowledge by now
>>344120697
Thanks for the tips. I'm more of a visual learner so some of this will take some time to marinate but I think I got the jist of it. My issue mainly seems to be getting headshots consistently. You mention flanking with ult but trying this I seem to get picked off getting the jump on the opponents. Guess I need more practice.
>Finally won my first game of comp since my placement matches
>Was 52 but dropped to 48
>Now I'm 49
>Play as Junkrat most of the time and do awesome, but my team is always crap that can't do anything, and people often leave halfway through
>Decide to play support and switch to Lucio
>Finally win a game of King's Row where the enemy team didn't even capture the payload and we did
>>344105410
>somehow still worse than most characters
>>344122608
>I get all the golds my team sucks.
>>344122608
Comp's pretty broken man
Also, really hate that thanks to my shitty connection, I got out of the game and got 2 ranks down because of it.
Why can't the system fucking know that I didn't quit on purpose, erase all my progress in the match, AND not forgiving me even if I fucking rejoin
FUCK
>>344121926
Thanks.
>>344122920
It would actually be nice if I didn't get gold sometimes, just to kinda show that my team's doing something.
Hell, even as Lucio I got 3-4 golds.
>>344122947
My main problem with comp is all the people that leave or don't do anything the entire match. It's really fucking irritating. All it does is make the game less enjoyable.
>>344106597
they really need to remove Ult auto-gains in comp. abilities should be given to players that earn them. right now everyone just saves their Ult for the end or when Mercy uses hers.
gay
>>344117849
"The bullet is enormous there is no escaping it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww3GTNv9hHk
>>344122947
Because then you could just turn your internet off, and playing competitive with a bad connection is not something you should do in the first place.
>>344123296
It'd be much of a chore to turn your internet off just to get out without a penalization
>Play on console
>See people pick Torbjorn
Did he get nerfed yet or no?
>>344123397
Not really, just alt-tab and switch it off.
>>344103021
If you can actually manipulate and abuse just how broken he is when it comes to hitboxes, of course.
He gets like thirteen fucking percent charge per bodyshot. Any "good" Hanzo can squeeze in a good 5-6 ults per round.
>>344122947
Honestly I think there needs to be a much harsher penalty for actually leaving matches. Too many people do it to be le epic trolls.
WITH EVERY DEATH, COMES ____________
>>344122520
If you're getting picked off during your ult, sometimes it happens due to bad luck but USUALLY it's because your timing is off. Ideally this is what you want from a Deadeye:
1. Be at a bizarre angle most people wouldn't expect a McCree at.
2. Have height advantage and/or be on one end of a very open area.
3. Be out of range of hooks and big damage.
4. Have everyone at lower than normal health.
So based on these guidelines, you GENERALLY wanna find the nearest ledge behind the enemy team, make your way there, and wait. Patience is key because if you blow it too early they can push into your team off of your death. The absolute best timing is right after your team pushes into their team. Not only will they not be able to deal with your ult because there's a ton of shit in their face, but they won't be at full-health so you can charge up almost instantly and fire away.
That's the ideal scenario but you don't have to use it like that every time and in fact you shouldn't. You can just anticipate the end of a push from your team, go around the flank two seconds in advance and kill everyone retreating.
You can cash it in to kill one slippery, high priority target such as a Lucio contesting the point, a Genji about to use sword (make sure his deflect is on cooldown but even if it's not you can just force it and kill him after if you have the HP), a primal rage Winston, Rein pinning your healer, etc...
You can combo it with black hole for team wipes. You can combo it with Lucio speed boost/break it down. You can combo it with a Reinhardt. Pretty much anything.
Another thing is when using Deadeye, always put people at the edges of your screen. Don't put them in the middle, use your POV to get as many people lined up in your view, and also to avoid hitting Zarya shields and deflecting Genjis.
And remember even if you're not 100% locked in on someone, you still do that %age as raw damage to that target. The rate is 170 HP per 1 second.
>>344123708
SALT
>>344123708
Another round of not changing heros.
>>344123708
I find it funny that Hanzo is the edgy one and Genji isn't.
>>344123824
Every time without fail.
>>344123397
Literally 2 seconds
>move hand to router power switch
>internet kil
>>344123928
plus the seconds it takes for it to return, and to reconnect to the game.
Dunno, maybe I'm just too impatient
>>344123296
its currently bugged. if you reconnect within a time frame it is supposed to not count as an abandon, but right now you get a loss the moment you dc. supposedly this has been fixed on pc tho
>>344123869
Why is Genji so autistically picked though? There seems to always be at least one every match, even if he doesn't seem really needed, sometimes two in a team, what do people see in him? Just weaboos?
>>344117331
I play(ed) Symmetra a lot, first for waifu reasons but then I noticed I'm usually devastating with her. People in public still have serious problems with her beams especially if you close off the popular pathways (like Anubis left side door or hollywood left side) towards the cap. People still fall of her bubble, thinking they are safe behind Reinhardt. A carefully planted teleport has almost the same effect as a good rez but your teammates aren't in the open. And last but not least people still tend ignore her in close combat and try to kill more popular heroes because they still underestimate her beam.
>>344123454
Didn't get nerfed yet. However barely any people use it in competitive.
>>344108815
Thanks doc
>>344124163
People trying to be Seagull but failing miserably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2RcgSCBTY
>>344124402
The people that actually know what they're doing at least. I play on PS4 and most people in the 40-50's range play it like an ordinary quick play match and don't take it seriously.
>>344124181
>People still fall of her bubble
You mean new people, and retards. She's very easy to take care of and the enemy team is losing the game when not shutting down certain heroes. Assuming we're talking about competitive or levels 100+, I'm not buying it. I get games with 200+ people and I've only reached 60.
I've had her teleporter shut off in front of me many times because someone destroyed it. It's very easy to counter her entirely.
>>344124663
>play it like an ordinary quick play match
I'm guilty in this too. I don't find my W/L ratio different in competitive but I get a purple point if I win so...
>>344124829
>retards
You expect too much from casual players. I don't say she is OP but she is strong at the first caps, and her winrate proves that.
>>344103021
Luminosity constantly won Attack matches yesterday in a pretty huge tournament using two Hanzos, two Zaryas and two Lucios.
You can see for yourself on /esl_overwatch
And one of the matches here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XneH6AfCsvw
The "competitive" mode is a joke anyways so go full retard.
>>344125802
>Pro player plays a character
>Obviously good
Problem is every shitter and their mother wants to play the characters the pros play without realizing it's not as simple as just picking them up and racking up kills. Doesn't help that Overwatch came out after the 360 no scope l33t sniper kiddies.
Reminder.
>>344103021
I play him when trying to derank myself
it works alright, but there are better methods
>>344126072
If you think that's bad, you should see the TF2 hitboxes.
>>344119460
Read the F1 info for once in your life. I also bet you don't know that Zarya gets stronger when her barriers get hit.
>>344126196
It's actually almost identical.
Source: owner of a Hale's Own Professional Killstreak Huntsman.
>>344126034
>is there any excuse to pick this character
>yes
>that doesn't count
In the same vein as you:
>shit players play a character
>obviously shit
That's not how it works. You don't need to be in a top 5 competitive team in the world to make Hanzo work, I've played with lots of Hanzos in competitive pubs that knew their shit.
>>344126518
The vast majority of people that play Hanzo are shit that play him for one reason and one reason alone: His ult. They're absolutely and obsessively desperate to get an entire team kill with his ult, or at the very least, 3-4 players. It doesn't matter to them whether or not if they're terrible at playing him and don't do anything useful, but if they can get a kill with his ult, suddenly it makes up for being so shit.
>>344126827
You see lots of Chun-Li players that play him just for tits and thighs but are always the freest players ever online, yet Chun-Li is considered top tier right now and one of the strongest in the hands of good players.
If shitters play a good character and are shit with him that's not my problem, the OP asked if there was any excuse to pick Hanzo in competitive. If you can use him and you think it would help and balance your team properly, there is plenty of reasons to.
>>344116072
>rank 40
I really hope this if your first fps
Even my shittiest friend is at 48 and he comes from Street Fighter
>>344127981
>mfw only play rpg's and third person shooters
>never played CSGO or TF2
>suck major dicks in overwatch
>>344127981
I literally threw 10 matches straight on purpose and lost them all
I left matches, i played a battle mercy, I shot at random walls with hanzo, I put walls in front of allies as mei, I walked around emoting as roadhog
Overall I got almost no kills, no damage done, no objective time
My rank was fucking 38
Thirty
Eight
I cannot believe there are people that play this game seriously and are around the same rank/lower than that
it just doesn't add up
>>344108815
>place turrets in really inconspicuous locations, never place them in the same position twice once they're destroyed
>people panicking when zapped
>get the drop on them with a charge shot followed immediately by tether
Love her
>>344106090
interesting
>>344117331
>turrets take too long to place
You have enough set up before the match starts to set up 5 or even all 6. After this you just need to replace them as they get destroyed. You're asking for trouble if you put them all in the same room/along the same wall as anyone can just get rid of them all at once, and heroes like Winston just need to look in their general direction.
>>344128969
>I literally threw 10 matches straight on purpose and lost them all
Kill yourself.
All you do is ruin it for the people that actually are trying.
>>344116072
Lmao git gud..I placed 46 and am at 55 right now and only played like 15 games
>>344129612
they are an unfortunate victim on my journey to rank 10
>>344129884
Not all of us have premades like you anon
I only play Hanzo in Quickplay. The majority of people who use him in comp are assholes. His gimmicky hitboxes do not make up for everything else.
>>344123762
i love that since he got nerfed that people think he's SHIT now so nobody picks him and they seem to be forgetting how to deal with him properly. i pick him a shitton now and clean house.
often get dumb teammates who rage that i picked him, but they usually shut the fuck up after i get to work.
I love using Hanzo a doing stupid shit just to piss people off. I lead charges into battle and get killed. I purposely miss the scatter. My personal favorite move is to get up high and fire my ult straight down into the ground.
I only use him when I want to be a dick.
>>344103394
The thing about competitive play is that people can't rely on "Can"s to obtain victory.
They need "Will"s and "Should"s to make it and I think I can safely say that some Heroes are more reliable than others in that regard.
>>344103021
I pick him when I feel like compensating skill with luck. I'm not saying he's a no skill character, but it's pretty easy to get lucky headshots with him.Also he's pretty fun to play.
>>344130939
Same. McCree was always good, they only nerfed the crutch that let impotent retards play him improperly and get away with it. I believe he is now working as intended.
ALTHOUGH I think his flashbang should do 30 damage instead of 25, so at least the flash+hs+melee combo kills 200HP classes.
>>344115496
>seagull was a top level tf2 soldier for countless esea invite seasons
>next to nobody knows this and people suck his dick because of his overwatch play
>>344103021
More than a widow I would say
Whenever I see Hanzo in my bracket I just automatically write him off and I'm usually 100% right. The good news is that there's likely one on the enemy team as well, so 5vs5 it is.
>>344128969
I got placed at 43 after a dismal set of placement matches where I mostly had to play as a healer, even though in the beta I was placed at 52.
Now I literally can not get out because all the teammates I get are complete and utter morons and/or ragequitters.
>My face when I just got done with a game where I killed two people with dragon, one instantly with scatter arrow, another with two bodyshots, and another guy with a headshot in the span of less than 30 seconds
>We get a team kill
>all while I was pushing the cart
The "hanzo is bad and deadweight" meme needs to die. If you're even half decent at aiming and take like 20 minutes to get used to his arrows/scatter arrow you can easily delete multiple people from the game on a regular basis.
>>344132735
to be fair, everyone on the other team is also completely moronic
On my journey me and a friend were throwing a game, turning into a 4v6, and the other team STILL lost they were so bad
when you get low enough anything is possible
>>344132960
It isn't a meme really just bad players need to stop playing out their skill range on rank. I stick to what I know, Zenyatta: stay the fuck back heal and discord and fire from afar. Junkrat: play smart and lay traps, and 76: heal as much as I can and aim well.
Problem is people don't know how to play as a fucking team. That's what loses the match.
That also means picking the right char for your team.
>>344103021
There are some parts of the map where Hanzo is actually effective at prying apart the choke.
Everywhere else, he is crap.
>>344133449
Jesus, things were fine for me till I got one shit head who had to complain about zenyatta, it wasn't even for healing and another healer was possible and doable, but this piece of shit kept complaining and we lost, he was happy we lost because he said zenyatta was a shitty healer and he was right. Which he is right about Zen being a shitty healer but he was a mercy and he did a shit tier job than I did as zenyatta.
>>344133449
That's the thing, though. A lot of the times when we do win, one person on the other team just ragequits.
I've had winning streaks, of course. Where I managed to get decent players.
And I'll admit I'm not the most skilled of players, but every time I go up a level, it's like the game punishes me for it by pairing me up with idiots.
>>344117286
How much damage can that shit even do? I've been one shot at 450hp on reinhardt
>>344134113
Ditto
>tfw managed to get a POTG with Zenyatta
Is there any better feeling?
>>344134042
that sounds like something I would do but I never touched zen
just report and move on, you will get your day eventually
>>344134113
I quit matches as a last resort, but only to make sure I lose the match, people who quit when they are losing anyways confuse me and just punish themselves
take solace in that every ragequitter will either have to stop or be banned from the season, you can even pretend that last ragequit would be their last if it made you feel better
>>344134113
well the thing is, most people who play are just shitters who can't play well.
you just tend to notice it more when the ones on your team are worse than the enemy's shitters.
>>344134347
Sadly I don't have a report button on PS4 so there's a red flag for you right there.
>>344107675
Opposite for me
Played 10 comp matches last night & faggots left 8 of them
>>344124829
>I'm not buying it
yeah he is probably lying
>>344135790
Had one where my team stomped the first match, 2nd match all left leaving us standing by the door waiting for our dates.
>>344108815
The bullet is enormous
>>344116465
>It's everyone else's fault I suck
>>344106721
its more comptitive and you will be challenged more and actually be forced to play better or get stomped. of course quickplay is fine if you just wanna play the game, but for a more serious experience where winning and losing feels more impactful comp is the mode to play
>>344103021
Rien que ta facon de t'exprimer prouve déja que ta malhonneté intellectuelle car depuis le temps je n'attends pas des lecons et je me fiches des petites querelles entre internautes. Comme j'ai déja dit: ce qui m'interesse ce sont les débats d'idées et pas les embrouilles de cours de recré. Cest ca que tu ne sembles pas comprendre. je ne critique pas les propos a vrai dire mais cest la théorie/l'interpretation qui est absurde. tout simplement donc ce serait bien d'éviter de prendre cela pour attaque personnelle
. si tu penses cacher ton incapacité a raisonner derriere le pret a penser et bien tu te trompes. Ca marche avec les faibles d'esprit , les larves et les laches mais pas avec moi.
maintenant venons en aux faits
j'exprime mes idées en donnant mon interpretation que ca te plaise ou non, ensuite je subis des attaques car forcément ca déplait au plu convaincu
Il est vrai que j'ai tort de reagir et je ne devrais meme pas prndre la peine de discuter et m'expliquer
mais a vrai dire je le fais pour deux raisons. j'aime bien débattre et confronter les idées et de deux j'ai envie d'avoir des réponses logiques et ca me permet de reflechir la dessus. apres ca veut pas dire que j'ai envie de jouer au bac a sable avec toi.
Tu nes pas mon camarade de jeu et je men fous un peu de ton avis car il ne m'interesse pas.
>chilling out in cover
>mother fucking scatter arrow rng bounces into me and kills
i fucking hate hanzo so much, i swear his entire play style is tossing out 1 shot kill projectiles and hoping they hit
>>344138621
Like knifers in CoD.
>>344138621
>try out hanzo
>scatter arrow
>barely hit shit
>fire random shots in the general direction of the enemy
>no free headshot kills
I guess I don't understand how to play meme classes
He's a good defender but most of the people who play him suck balls
>rank 62 after placement
>now 54
>shittest players choose hanzo or mei xDD on attack
>forced to heal even though best stats
Every game.
You cannot solo queue and maintain a decent rank unless you are a pro, end of story, fucking over this shit
Is junkrat viable to get high rank or not? I played beta and I only liked him, but if hes shit im not buying the game. My friends told me that aimbot Q fuck and pharah are the only viable characters outside of supports and tanks, is it true?
>>344103021
Depends on the map, really. But if you're bringing Hanzo or Widowmaker to competitive then you better be really damn good at fucking people up with them.
>>344119098
I have yet to see him in competitive play though
>>344141128
Your friends are retarded COD shitters and Junkrat is a perfectly fine and versatile character.
Anons give me your HIGH, MID and LOW tier Overwatch characters in comp
Then give your favourite maps from best to the worst
GO
>>344113896
Because le ebin internet trolling seems to be more important to people.
Nothing but bitching and screaming in rank 50+
Caught this in the last game I played
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK1CBpB5EII
>>344108815
She fucking stomps anything short of top-tier genjis, and even then a good Sym will rek a genji in a confined space
apart from a few specific maps where she's high tier for the first point, she's only mid tier defence at best after that
She so easily countered by a winston though, may as well change straight away if they have one
>>344141585
My god do I love counterpicking WInston
>enemy team has 2+ combination of Genji/Tracer/Symmetra/Widow/Hanzo/Lucio/Mercy
>pick Winston and be super annoying, completely shut them down
>occasionally teammate goes second winston and it becomes an effortless stomp
>>344141710
Still remember the nightmare Ching Chong Tower was. Enemy team was Three Winstons, Two Zarya's and a stupid Junkrat that eventually went Lucio. It was devastating how my team and I got shut the fuck out.
Fucking Tracer ult, how is that even fair? It's like a better Junkrat ult.
>>344103528
Seagull also said that Hanzo is still worse than widow.
>>344141979
Junkrat ult is more about the area denial
As long as it's rolling around the enemy team basically can't do shit
Much like DVA or Hanzo ults
>>344108815
>120 dps autolock weapon
Yeah she's really bad
>>344108815
she's easily my favorite hero to find on defense.
that +25 hp is insane for Pharah, and lets her get out of skirmishes that would have either killed her
>>344108815
thanks doc
>>344142107
But you can just shoot it and you're good.
i love playing McRee and just repeating this into the mic
"I'm a professional cowboy and I use catheters. Been coyboyin' for 20 years. I've broken 14 bones, had 2 concussions and a punctured lung. I know pain and I don't want anymore it. Especially when I cath. Now, I use these nearly painless catheters from medical direct club. Compared to the old ones, these aint nothin'."
>>344142272
But a good Junkrat isn't just going to rush straight at them, he'll ride it over rooftops and drag it out and ambush them and will in general be an annoying shit
Even if they shoot it when he finally jumps it town after 10 seconds- that's a lot of time to form up or pick off isolated enemies
>>344103021
If you like him, sure.
>forced into playing mercy just so I can try and get my team to win for once
>guy picks Hanzo on attack in egypt
>fuck him, I'm not healing him, i'm busy healing or damage buffing people who are useful
>he's screaming at me, has 2hp left
>I see him on deathcam, 2 inches away from a health pack that will heal him
>he just keeps shooting, missing the health pack every time despite me telling him theres on right there
>we win by a landslide anyway with him at 2 hp unable to do anything
fucking hanzo mains
>>344141548
>plays symmetra
>rages when his team loses
You literally can't make this shit up. I bet his second and third choices were zenyatta and hanzo
>>344108815
You pick her in stacks with your friends, otherwise do not pick her.
>>344142112
Did you forget that part that it only does that on full charge after 3 seconds of continuous damage? And that fact that she has to be point blank range to use it. Her weapon is okay.
>>344108815
Why can't she apply her E to her own devices?
In terms of playing him instead of Widow, he does have a few benefits of having slightly indirect killing with just normal attacks and the scatter arrow, and can essentially do a small widowmaker "ult" every 10-12 seconds with his shift.
His ult is also better too but he has no escape and no up close fuck you like Widowmaker does unless you land that perfect headshot.
>>344142737
It does maintain between targets though.
>>344103021
Reminer that hanzo was played in a tournament (ON ATTACK)(!) on multiple occasions and the team dominated.
/v/ contrarians have been BTFO YET AGAIN
>>344142850
>6 x 26 hp slowing turrets
Fuck that
>>344103528
>if you're good enough you can make things work with him, otherwise no
Seagull can make any character look and play great, anon. But not everybody is Seagull. In fact, most people aren't Seagull, so if you're doing low to mid MMR solo, just pick characters that carry such as Zarya, S76, Lucio, Roadhog or Reaper. And stop picking D.va in competitive, good god, literally everybody knows about her hitbox by now.
>>344108815
The Quad Laser has been fired
>>344103394
>>344108340
>>344117286
how does this shit work? i assumed you were supposed to use it in small rooms but ive seen hanzos shoot it by my feet and instagib me as anything but a tank
i dont get it i also got one shot by it walking out of my spawn and the hanzo wasnt even aiming for me is it rng shit?
>>344134179
When I played Winston for the first time I thought I could easily go for that annoying Hanzo the same way I do with Widows but I got absolutely shredded in an instant. That's when I realized you should not underestimate the scatter arrow, especially when you're a big guy. It shoots 6 arrows that deal 75 damage, assuming these arrows can't headshot that's a maximum of 450 damage.I still go for Hanzos but now I use my shield
>>344142497
Symmetra is fine, but it's too gimmicky in SD. If you don't get your ult retardedly fast you're probably losing the round for your team.
>>344134324
>get POTG as Lucio
>it's me spamming the capoeira emote then pushing one guy down
>>344105509
Everyone pairs well with Zarya. EVERYONE. She can go in any team and make it work better.
>>344134324
>tfw POTG is always some lucky Hanzo ultNever my Junkrat direct hits, mine and trap multikills
>>344119098
Too many shitters relied on his fan the hammer. His stun gives you 2 free headshots, I one shot every tracer/zen/genji with just one headshot after his stun.
I barely used fan the hammer as a follow up before the nerf. Not even hard to play him on PC, console might be different
>>344146561
Much like Soldier
>>344145862
No because the angle when hitting the ground always bounces the scatter into you.
>>344147015
>"2 free headshots"
>peacekeeper shoots 2 rounds per second
>flashbang lasts 0.7 seconds
>"I one shot every tracer/zen/genji with just one headshot"
>peacekeeper deals max 70 damage, 140 on headshot
>zen and tracer are literally the only characters that die to that
Could you talk any more out of your ass please?
>>344145862
Hanzo shoots a normal arrow that does 125 damage at full charge.
When it hits a surface, it splits into 6 which do 75 damage each and can't headshot. The spread and direction of the split is set (not random) and based on the surface it hits
The arrows then bounce 5 times, dealing damage to any players they hit
So there are two ways to use it: 1) Direct kill and 2) indirect kills. For a Direct Kill, aim it at somebodies feet. The split arrows will fly upwards into the target, delivering up to 450 damage before bouncing on their way. This method of using the scatter arrow is great to kill hard to hit targets like tracer, or tankier targets that won't die in 1 headshot to regular arrows. Indirect Kills require much better knowledge of the direction of split and the geography you are firing onto, but good knowledge will allow you to consistently kill characters around corners
McCree is actually really fun now after the nerf
>tfw can't aim tho
>>344106090
Good post, anon. I think the real reason people hate Hanzo is because a large amount of the people that play him are terrible at it. I recently started learning him and found him to be a force of nature when played well. Getting 3 quick eliminations can really help win fights.
>>344116465
>Can't carry retards at rank 40
No, you're just bad at the game. Anyone who is below rank 50 has no right to call others retarded.
>>344147964
the problem is that Fan the Hammer is almost completely useless now, aside from finishing off low health targets. I think they should have left the damage as it was, but put it on cool down, thus turning it into a limited by high burst of damage like Hanzo's scatter arrow
>>344147964
He's great for aim practice
>>344148115
It's a team game. Carrying anyone is close to impossible. I mean sure, if you had one or two bad players in your team, but you're guaranteed to have 5.
The sub 45 hell is real.
>>344123762
I'm not a /k/fag but why is there a casing flying out of this revolver?
>>344148323
Something like a Tracer or Genji can shit all over an uncoordinated team
>>344148439
This is true but they dont work in all game modes and for me personally I can't play them. If there were some way to "carry" a team with most heroes id be happy. Splatoon is similar to this game and the ranked woes I hear people complain about in overwatch was similar to those from splatoon but in splatoon it was easier to carry since the weapon kits were balanced differently. Overwatch heroes are too specialized and they mostly fill a single role.
>>344148083
did mercy take over the role of tracer?
>>344148439
>uncoordinated team
If you were playing against an uncoordinated team you wouldn't need a character specifically for carrying.
>>344142060
He never said that. He actually said people who compare hanzo to widow have no idea how hanzo works
>play tank heroes since nobody in my skill bracket picks them
>only get like 30% of a rank for a win
>lost a whole level for a loss
>if I go pick an attack hero or a def hero that can earn medals I only lose like 20%
>tfw I have to choose between ranking up very slowly or gambling picking an attack hero for more exp after a win
Did blizzard ever address this? I can't seem to win in the 40s no matter how hard I try.
>>344116465
That's because you are a downie
>>344122608
>junkrat shitter pretending he's credit to team
stop it
>>344150673
Yes, because both teams are uncoordinated.
I was below 50 at one point and I got out easily by switching to a flanker and destroying them.
>>344147762
>0.7 seconds is longer than 0.5 seconds
>forgetting that flash does 25 damage for some retarded reason
Only genji out of those doesn't die to the first headshot but he has 35 hp left and can't just recal out of it. Dies to the next body shot.
>>344150673
Sure, you can carry with any character that isn't Mercy or Sym or something, but it's easier with an offensive hero with a lot of mobility and sustain
>>344152295
That's what he said though
He worded it oddly, I also had to reread it
>>344105509
You mean besides the countless abilities that go through Zarya ult like Wraith Form, Recall, Charge, etc.
>>344152612
Also countered by sound barrier.
And tranquillity though nobody plays zen.
>playing KotH as lucio with 3 genjis on my team
>keep up speed boost most of the time and quickly amp up healing for clutch saves
>enemy team has no idea what the fuck to do and just panic
>>344153040
>they pick double Winston
>gg no re
>>344153040
>not stacking winstons
>>344153040
>KOTH
>Team of 6 Tracers constantly tapping the point
>Eternal Overtime
>"Match has ended for going on too long"
>>344153167
>Double Winston
>Not double Zarya
literally the perfect thread since I just got out of a game with our Hanzo on ATTACK and he literally got nothing done
>>344153293
>trying to kill speedboosted genjis with zarya
good luck
>>344153293
Winston shits all over Lucio and Genjis
Zarya not so much, those agile little fucks are impossible to track so you have to spam nukes and hope for the best
>>344153435
>Pair up shield rotation whenever Genjis try playing aggressive
>Chase them the fuck out with primary
>If they aren't somehow dead, harass with secondary at range while they cry back to Lucio for healing
>Assert dominance of the point while Lucio kisses their boo boos
>Repeat, charge accumulating more over time
>Laugh as they try to ult and you just ult back
>>344153736
>implying you can even touch them with primary
>implying you'll hit anything with secondary
>>344103021
I hate Hanzo
>>344153736
If they're any competent they're going to stay at midrange, outside of beamrange, while jumping around to avoid splash damage, and spamming shurikens at you. As soon as your shield is gone they're free to rush in and gangbang you mercilessly
Now as winston they can't keep at midrange because you can deliver hot monkey schlong all over the map quicker than they can dash away
>>344106090
>Hanzo in Competitive
> Nubani
> Talks with me and my 2 other friends
> His aim is fantastic, and because of this, his ult charges fast as fuck (hell it charges fast with shitty hanzos)
> Wolves every couple seconds
> Zarya ult 5 people
> THE WURF HUNTZ 4 HES PRAAAAAY
>Do the same thing on Attack
Some Hanzos are fantastic, but like widow maker, few and far in between.
>Mfw I pound the other team with hanzo.
Any hero has the possibility to be useful so long as you're good with them.
>>344154127
>They're going to stay at midrange outside of beam range
Then they're off the point/payload. You also don't fucking bubble for their shurikens retard. You have 200 rechargeable shield.
Winston can only do shit up close, and at best just delays some incoming harass damage with their shield. After that they're free to keep getting shuriken spammed and will slowly dip in health more and more over time, requiring them to drop an ult the moment Genjis decide to go in.
>aim scatter arrow in front of Dva's feet
>bye Dva
>>344120697
>>344123762
Thanks for the advice I picked him and did pretty decent. I tried to pick up my team but still can't do it but I want to play him more. With your advice he's pretty fun but holy shit I can't aim. I missed killing tracer like 3 times and she blinked or recalled away.
>>344154810
>Wasting scatter on a Dva who has a gigantic head hitbox
Three arrows completely drops her out of her suit, almost two.
>>344154965
If she's right up in your face there not much time to shoot 3 arrows at her.
>>344119098
>70 damage long-range headshots
False. Damage falls off to 35 at anything beyond 30 meters (long range). It drops below 70 at 18 meters.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tb7xg_EmtkqgR7da6IDMcFjdEsFkefcW_78mAIRKp0w/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=2106552717
Everything else is correct though. He's great.
>>344155259
Anon what's 35 times 2?
>>344155259
>Headshot
>>344103528
>Shayed
I've played against them a few times. Do they always play mercy? I want to say he was pocketing Pharah every time
>>344155731
She usually plays support, almost always mercy
