Do you think exclusives help or hurt the industry, specifically with this game?
Multiplat eventually.
>>344089971
They said never
>>344090065
Source? Was it outright stated?
I can understand original IPs being exclusive. If Microsoft or Sony made a game, they are within their right to use that game as a way to sell their system. Something like the spiderman game is kind of annoying. Spiderman is an already well established IP with fans across all platforms and to restrict it to a single platform, even if it is just temporarily, is kind of stupid. Why not let everyone who loves Spiderman play this game? Same goes for the most recent Tomb Raider.
I get that it is again trying to insensitivise people to buy the PS4 but I feel like all it really does is brew resentment amongst the community.
>>344089171
Hostageware definitely hurts the gaming industry as a whole. Except for Nintendo, apparently.
>>344091046
But why?
>>344090137
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/06/20/marvel-the-future-of-spiderman-ps4-console-games-is-with-sony-and-insomniac/
>>344091262
Thank you.
>>344089971
Not really especially if Sony traded movie rights for exclusive games also the devs said Sony was funding it in a tweet
Sony & disney owns spiderman and which one of those companies has a game system to put the game on so they can make sure the game is only on their system
who gives a shit about 'the industry'
>>344090934
It gets more people to buy their system if theyre interested in a big name like that. Metal Gear was like that for the ps.
Sony traded Spidey for videogame rights.
They know the can't compete with Marvel so they did the sensible thing and secured rights to the one medium they aren't horrible at.
>>344089171
With exclusives and other things, video games would have died.
Now it may have come back but there would have been a huge setback. It's good that Nintendo in the old days had lots of good exclusives. Then PS1 came in later generation and had solid exclusives.
>>344089171
It both helps and hurts.
It helps because we as a consumer can get a high quality curated product as dictated by the platform holder. But it is bad because you can't play it on device you want to as a consumer.
>>344094463
>With exclusives and other things, video games would have died.
How do you mean? There has always been exclusives in gaming.
>>344096706
>There has always been exclusives in gaming.
That's the point.
>>344089171
that white shit looks like garbage can not wait to see there retarded boss designs
Healrt
>>344096835
But video games never died and the industry is bigger than ever.
I think if every system is just gonna get every game there's really no point in making systems at all
>TFW this is the game that's FINALLY going to make me get a PS4
>>344096934
Spiderman games usually have multiple costumes.
It's not even that bad.
>>344096934
Kek
Xbone purchaser detected
>>344089171
Exclusives are good, so long as they have always been exclusive or is a new IP.
if its something like Tomb Raider or Spiderman that has traditionally been Multiplat, then it gets a bit questionable
>>344089171
Normally I dont mind exclusives. BUT THIS is a huge fucking smack in the face to everyone that doesnt have a ps4. Yes my love of spiderman trumps Nathan Drake fight me faggots.
Sony and Spider-man were made for each-other.
>>344097332
I don't agree with the "if it was once a multiplat it should stay multiplat" mentality.
If it is part of the same series as games that have been multiplat then propably but when Sony develops their own spider-man game series or commisioned it from Insomniac i don't see how that is questionable.
Remember how fucked up the PC version of Spiderman 2 was? I'd rather not see that again.
>>344096934
I love the costume.
>>344097631
So you'd be fine if Tomb Raider was a Xbox Exclusive had it done so when it first rebooted?
If Conker became a Xbox exclusive you wouldn't think its a bad thing?
>>344097631
This. Exclusive games tend to have more love put into them, especially if they're high profile. That kind of quality drives people to buy who don't own a system to go to the store to grab one.
It's not only good marketing...when it's done right, the person who adds the game to their collection wins too.
>>344097705
essentially this? >>344096402
/thread
>>344098265
>>344098076
>Inb4 its okay as long as it isn't Microshaft
>>344098076
Conker had a good chance at being exclusive and to be honest it would have been completely normal. I don't see where it would be questionable.
Tomb Raider situation is a straight money-hat timed exclusive deal.
It could never have been completely exclusive from when the series rebooted because its a third party game.
Spider-man PS4 is second party/commissioned by Sony kind of like The Order 1886 and Ratchet and clank.
/v/ would claim it helps the industry if it were PC only
>>344097228
>Spiderman games usually have multiple costumes.
>It's not even that bad.
not for the bosses retard. every other spider game knew what to do, either comic or current movie spidey why did the best game have to have the worst designs imaginable
>we do not know that yet
if the guy who designed spidey designed the rest we are screwed it even has the edgy spider logo
>>344098669
>Not even answering the question
Let me repeat myself
>So you'd be fine if Tomb Raider was a Xbox Exclusive had it done so when it first rebooted?
as in, Microsoft commissioned it
IfMeant to say Crash, but im retardedbecame a Xbox exclusive you wouldn't think its a bad thing?
>>344098265
Is there one for Spidey?
>>344098265
This and Nintoodlers thinking Persona 5 was going to be a Wii U game is fucking delicious.
>>344099314
>They got an Etrian Odyssey reskin so they think they'll get a mainline Persona game
What the fuck is Insomniac's deal anyways? I always thought they were like Naughty Dog in that they only make games for Sony then Fuse was a multiplat pubbed by EA, then Sunset Overdrive was an Xbone exclusive, now Spiderman is a PS4 exclusive. The fuck is going on?
>>344099664
They are an independent company. They make games for whoever pays them, but they always come back to Sony since Ratchet & Clank are the only games they profit from.
>>344099851
>mfw SS is one of their funnest games
>It didn't sell well
>>344099272
There wasn't really a huge amount of salt here caused by Spidey, the worst you got was people ardently saying it wouldn't be a legit exclusive , until it turned out that SIE was publishing and funding it based off that Disney/Marvel-Sony deal, then they all just disappeared.
Twitter was a completely different case though, the amount of venom being spewed at Insomniac was really something. Worth having a look at their tag if you can be bothered going back a month.
>>344099314
Don't forget everyone sperging out about Bayo 2, that one was fantastic as well.
>>344099664
They're their own studio, but they still have a excellent working relationship with Sony, is all.
Sunset Overdrive would've been a PS4 exclusive if not for the fact that negotiations broke down (And bear in mind that Sony were the first company they approached to pitch it, unsurprisingly) when Insomniac were quite insistent on keeping the IP, but Sony said they'd only fund it if they retained ownership of it. They then went to Microsoft, who said that they'd fund it and let Insomniac keep the IP, but in return it had to be an Xbone exclusive and Microsoft would own the publishing rights.
>>344089171
It will only matter to me if it actually has webswinging as good as Spiderman 2. If it's moonswinging then who gives a shit.
>>344100360
How'd Microsoft get the rights to use the PlayStation 3 text for that title?
>>344100475
>the PlayStation 3 text
Wew, lad
The PS3 font was based on the spiderman movie font
>>344100610
he was joking, senpai
I rather it be an exclusive and given to a dev that actually cares about delivering a quality game than a publisher that gives it to their sweat shop devs with no budget.
Just give me a good Spider-Man game. Fuck off with your console wars.
>>344099053
I did answer and no i wouldn't think its a bad thing for the industry if it is second or first party.
If it is third party then i do think so because then it has none of the good sides but all the bad sides as of this post i made earlier >>344096402
>>344097705
That's not relevant at all. There was a time when publishers would release completely different games on different platforms under the same name (the first Harry Potter movie has like 5 games)
That time is over
>>344097157
If every platform is going to be the same thing then yeah, there's no point in all of them existing. Consoles in the past used to differ at least a little bit and different games were made for them. Now every platform is exactly the same (not counting Nintendo as they actually are different, but PC, PS4, and Xbone might as well be the same platform at the moment) and 90% of the games are on all 3. It's boring as hell. But at the same time the exclusives that do exist only exist because of moneyhatting and not because of any real difference between the platforms.
>>344101942
Yeah, now they just give their licensed properties to their z-list dev team with no budget and no time.
Getting Spider-Man out of Activision's hands was the best thing they could have done.
Who cares about that shit? we got a Spider-Man game made by a decent company, not the Activision or the Beenox bullcrap
>>344101550
>I rather it be an exclusive and given to a dev that actually cares about delivering a quality game than a publisher that gives it to their sweat shop devs with no budget.
The only problem is that because it's only on PS4 and made by Insomniac, it is definitely going to be 30fps. It could still turn out alright, but if the swinging is as good as SM2, it deserves to be experienced at 60fps.
>>344089171
More good than bad. We really do not want a platform monopoly to occur.
>>344103235
It'll undpubtedly appear after the NEO is released, if it's any consolation.
I think it's kind of shit, for this particular game, since Spiderman is a franchise that isn't even vidya specific and is immensely popular. It was the only thing Sony showed that looked even remotely decent, so they did a good job in that regard, but there is no way I would ever buy a console for a single game.
>>344089171
It definitely helps. Competition is good, funding more quality games gets more people to buy their system. If that's a driving point all sides are striving to get more exclusive games and funding cool shit.
I dunno, we're talking about freaking Spider-Man, one of the most popular characters in all fiction, good thing that I have a Ps4 but I can't really imagine how would it be if I had an Xbox One.
>>344091167
See
>>344090934
He's just one of those memers
>>344089171
This game is special and a new trend because it extends beyond the game industry. This game is a result of the Sony/Marvel deal and shouldn't be taken at face value when talking about exclusives.
>>344103632
so this thread should be in /co/?
>>344103714
No, it actually belongs on /co/, /tv/, and /v/
>>344103235
Here we go again
>>344103235
Good spiderman at 30 fps spiderman > Bad spiderman at 60 fps
>>344104152
What about good Spiderman at 60 fps
>>344104238
Might as well ask for a TMNT game by PlatinumOh wait
>>344103456
I don't know if the Neo will improve graphics and/or framerate, but Insomniac has straight up announced that they won't be developing 60fps games any more: http://www.insomniacgames.com/how-much-does-framerate-matter/
>>344104152
Good spiderman at 60fps > Good spiderman at 30fps > Bad spiderman at 60 fps
BTW, I've enjoyed many 30fps games before, but knowing that this game could get capped kinda sucks.
>>344096706
>That photo
>>344089171
I still wonder, why insomniac? I think sucker punch would have been a better fit.
>>344103714
/co/ only cares about Bendis gaining more power at Marvel right now.
So what type of spider did Peter actually get bitten by?
Given his specific powers, I'd say he has most in common with jumping spiders, but the depictions are nowhere near that cute. Not even sure if the average jumping spider is able to penetrate through skin that easily.
>>344104763
Sucker Punch have been hard-at-work on a new IP since SS and FL were finished, apparently.Rumours are suggesting that it'll be shown for the first time at PSX this year.
>>344104963
Didn't they say it was a spider that was basically a mix between many species so it wasn't like any other?
only if a company paid devs off to prevent a game from being put on other systems.
In instances where a game is only getting made because of a company, there's no way you can say it hurts the industry for it being exclusive.
>>344104963
differs per universe
>>344104963
Depends on the version. In some it was just a spider that was radioactive. In others it was one that was experimented on.
>>344090934
tomb raider was MS bribing the developers to prevent a ps4 release for 1 year. They just pulled this shit again with Dead Rising 4.
This Spiderman developed by that studio is only being made in the first place because of Sony and is likely tied into the whole deal where they put Spidey into the MCU.
>>344105220
Something like that in the Raimi films, but in the comics it's just a random spider passing by, getting severely radiated.
>>344104763
Insomniac has always been a big PS supporter.
>>344105615
>>344105220
I think the jumping power has to do with his proportionate strength, not specifically from the spider.
>>344104963
What version you want to hear?
>>344099401
>>344099401
DELAYED
>>344106191
Well the spiderman 2 game says in one of the hints that he does have the strength of a human sized super spider. So it is likely they are proportional to his human abilities.
Kinda pissed it's not on Xbone but i guess since spiderman = sony this is to be expected
Also that's what i get for owning an Xbone i guess
>>344106582
>Owning the one console on the market in which all exclusives end up on PC
You only have yourself to blame, daddy'o
>>344098265
Anyone have a compilation for the reactions to the Bloodborne reveal and exclusivity?
>>344089171
I can understand games like mario, uncharted and halo being exclusives but games like bayonetta, spiderman and tomb raider being exclusives or even timed exclusives is total bullshit
>>344108084
Bayo 2 was quite literally a case of not existing if Ninty didn't pick it up, since no other publisher expressed any interest in funding it at all.
And as >>344103632 says, this Spidey game is an unusual case that goes beyond just videogames, since it largely stems from Disney/Marvel desperately wanting Spidey in the MCU at any cost.
They only benefit the industry. If its not on your platform of choice then back the other guy who can produce them.
I think the worst outcome is having a platform holder who will not invest in new games at all. I've seen such times and its no good.
>>344106582
That is one hot man, I'd totally suck his feminine penis
>>344100360
The video clearly shows it's not moonswinging.
>>344091167
Because ninteo gets free pass on that.
Obviously it helps the industry. Someone has to pay for it, companies don't sell enough on other platforms or they simply don't want to devalue their product.
>>344089171
The only thing exclusives do is cause pointless console wars.
Multiplats sometimes do the sames things, but at least everybody gets the game.
>>344089171
If the topic of someone's reply is to be specific to this game, this would have to bring the subjectivity of such a remark to a state of redundancy. Although, this is probably ultimately unavoidable anyway.
Assuming exclusive videogames give someone with the money to afford a mid to high end PC incentive to purchase an already more affordable game system, this action would stimulate the gaming economy as a whole.
PC will be relevant in a different way than being boxed into console exclusive games and thus, they are not victim to it; rather an interest in videogames by consumers and ground gained by multiple platforms, couldn't do much less than provide a future for this interest. Competition is a healthy thing for both sides of videogame marketing.
>>344090934
Sony owns the home media rights to Spider-Man. It would be completely retarded to allow other rival companies to use a brand that you have exclusive rights to. What the hell kind of company would do that? Do you see Nintendo lending out Mario to Sony or Microsoft?
Marvel gets no say in this matter.
>>344091342
>Not really especially if Sony traded movie rights for exclusive games
There has been nothing to suggest such a thing.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/details-spider-man-appear-in-sony-and-marvel-movies-1201429039/
>>344115174
You are retarded. Sony owns the movie rights. Stop spreading bullshit.
