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I actually liked that Sigma was always frowning
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>>344030552
Still despite being 60 yr he acted as a kid
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>>344031242
67. And isn't that true to life?
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irl with the kids and stuff yes, but in situation like this is just wtf. Also he is supposed to be a genious for creating logomorph, luna and setting up all of the 3rd game
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Someone explain to me why Delta gave D-team a self-destruct button and told them not push it.
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>>344032583
all for the keks
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>>344032490
true. I wish he could have been genius zero sr. AND the dad sigma/diana's husbando that we got. that would have been more interesting.
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>>344032583
complex
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>>344032583
So you could shitpost on /v/
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Since that faggot brought it up last thread, can someone tell my why "hurr durr you can't understand Japanese so how do you think it's better?" is a valid response?
IT'S A VOICE, THAT WHOLE POINT OF IT IS TO FIT THE CHARACTER
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answering to the guys telling me lotus was likeable in the previous thread you're right, if it weren't for Mira I would have added useless but fact is she's pretty important to the story. Alice is both a useless cunt and a hateable one but I agree that Lotus was not so bad, just kind of pointless.


Also I have a question. If the ship back in 999 was studied to be exactly like the building where Akane was held and forced to play the nonary game, how in the name of christ did the kids manage to figure out the computer puzzle that lotus solves?
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>>344033000
are you logomorph?
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>>344033109
7 prb saved them before that room
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>>344033109
Probably it wasn't a 1:1 EXACT replica, Akane and Santa changed puzzles for sure.
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>>344033257
yeah, but I mean, how were they supposed to even solve it in the first place?
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>>344031242
He was senile.
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>>344032583
He's biased towards his family so he gave them the easiest decision games
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>>344031242
being alone for 45 years does things to you
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>>344032583
Life is unfair.

Also Delta is an asshole who gets off on people making deadly decisions.
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>>344032909
If you weren't stupid, you would have realized that well receveid could mean that it scored high or was well regarded by those who played it, right? It doesn't mean high sales, hence why that tweet is probably the truth.

I seriously don't know why you're arguing back against facts for the sake of making your argument sound solid. It makes you look like an idiot.
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>>344033408
no i mean why even give them a button

if they press it everyone dies and that timeline effectively meaninglessly ends for all of them

it doesn't accomplish anything

it doesn't further anything

for what purpose
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>>344032583
because why the fuck not? Snailguy doesn't get shit from anyone.
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>>344033352
I think it was mentioned that the kids didn't even solve most of the puzzles because they were too dificult for them as they were supposed to communicate with their twin to get the answers or something. The computer puzzles was no diferent I think
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>>344033612
COMPLEX
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How much knowledge of the previous titles do i need to enjoy this one?
Finished 999 and am halfway through VLR but At the moment i Dont have Any motivation to Continue, because i kind of dislike the cast
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WHO HERE HYPE FOR 999 VA EDITION?
I just can't wait to hear KISAMA and YAMEROOOO
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>>344033612
maybe this way they can kill themselves in the stranded ending instead of dying of hunger
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>>344033612
for a funny game over

duh
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>>344033109
Either there was an alternate solution or one of the kids was a computer prodigy, maybe Nona or Ennea. Also we know Akane changed some rooms, like the captain's quarters and workshop.

Also I think you have the ship and building backwards.
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>>344033109
Lotus was pretty much useless for the entire game besides for one room.

Shit, Alice was way more useful thanks to her mathematical skills than her in order to deactivate the bombs.
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How did 2008 Phi know to sign up for the mars mission test site and get cryogenically frozen to begin with?
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shit game
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>>344033625
>Willing to kill himself using an acid shower in various timelines

fucking crazy old man
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>>344033740
You have to finish vlr
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>>344033771
yeah I may have mistaken them, it's been ages since I last played 999
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>>344033748
NONARY GEIMU?
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>>344033740
Finish VLR or don't bother
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>>344033748
I am so hyped for all them boy voices. Even the Ninth man.
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>>344033748
>Atsuko Tanaka already voiced that Alice bitch in VLR so she can't be Lotus

End my life
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>>344033740
The more you know about the previous games the more disappointed you will be with the game.
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>>344033612
tests their critical thinking fucking Sigma
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>>344033585
"Well, the sales were terrible, and the game put us in the red... but it got some good scores! We're going to fund another game. No, actually, make two more!"

Does that make sense?
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>>344033876
Okay, going to commit myself now.
Hopefully there wont be much more Dio bullshit
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why does he need them to be there to be born?

in 999 Akane disappears in the bad timelines because she never survives but in ZTD Delta keeps existing no matter what otherwise he wouldn't exist in the VLR ending either
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>>344033748
Not getting hype for SNAAAAAAKKEE
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>>344030552
So in the time line he fails, does it mean he reached 110 years old during the AB game?
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>>344034146
are you actually implying that not pressing a button that has a warning that says 'don't press this button' demonstrates ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''critical''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' thinking?
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>>344033808
She didn't, that was "future" Phi, review the jumping chart from VLR.
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why is junpei so snarky towards his waifu?
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Just finished the game and well... well fuck it. That's it.

Although the last thread cheered me up a bit, the game was at least worth finishing for the memes. Honestly...
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>>344034169
Beats me.

Facts are still facts. You can't argue with the truth that both we're still red in Japan.
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>>344033748
Only for the HD graphics. I don't give 2 shits about voice acting.
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>>344033625
What do you happened to him in timeline where he shot everyone but himself and Diana? Did he get at least a motherly hug?
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>>344034657
he is a pussywhipped cuck and that's his way of "getting back" at her
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>>344034657
She manipulated him during the Nonary game and got killed in various timelines due to that during 999
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>>344034657
His waifu is a bitch and he knows it, but can't help but love her like the cuck he is.
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>>344034657
he realized he was actually kind of mad at her for all her bullshit
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>>344034657
>Love girl and proceed to save her by playing the scariest game known to man
>She dissapears for a fucking year for no reason

He should have been snarkier
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>>344033748
Anyone know when this is gonna be released roughly? Should we expect 2017? Or maybe even this year? O-or later...? ;_;
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>>344033612

he knew if they are gonna push it or not, because MIND HAXXXX

and learning their decision-making process was interesting for him

that's all
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>>344035760
no later than 2017 sounds reasonable unless they want to go for 999's 9-year anniversary

but nothing's official yet.
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>>344030552
>Diana had sex with a super old geezer
young sigma's pretty hot though
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how are ZTD's sales? any chance for game 4?
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>>344034458
But for future Phi to be able to jump, wouldn't a original timeline where 2008 Phi joined the mars mission and got cryogenically frozen have needed to exist?
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>>344036129
>December 2018
pls no
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>>344036235
Absolutely 0 chances for a sequel, sorry. Game hasn't been selling well at all.
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>>344036235
they announced HD remasters of the first two games
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>>344033748
as long as they keep the same art I'll be ready for 999

no fucking 3d bullshit for the characters
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>>344033748
>elevator scene with voice acting
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>>344036143

Diana had sex with a mature, kind, caring, intelligent man that also happend to be hot, tall and have a monstrous dick

this girl won the fucking lottery. I'm so happy for her, she deserves everything good in life

have a family photo
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>>344033748
Can't wait to hear the OST remastered.
>Quietus
>Quaternary Game
>Senary Game
Gonna be fucking great.
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Stream in two days
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>>344036372

Just like the other two?

Do not lose HOPE, Anon. HOPE finds a way
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>>344033748
Worst game in the series.

Unless they add a flowchart, I wouldn't play that shit again.
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>>344035395
Fucking this, Junpei was totally justified.

>Reconnect with childhood friend, rekindling old feelings and falling in love in a life or death situation
>Find out she's the one who kidnapped you
>She fucks off immediately without a word
>Becomes a detective to find her, get involved in a bunch of awful shit

And even after that he's just kind of snarky and forgives her. Any sane man would have given up on her long ago, but Junpei's love is too pure.
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>>344032583
Epigenetics, he needed Diana and Sigma to have undergone extreme life or death scenarios which would force them to SHIFT, so that he and Phi would inherit their abilities
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>>344036143
Who cares if he's old when he's got a body like that
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>>344036756
The thing is, he already listened to the "fans" once. We let him down by pirating the game. He's not gonna listen to us again. It's over, anon. ;_;
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>>344036757

This. Solving the same puzzles and skipping through countless text was a deal-breaker for me. Would never got into series if I started with this one. And even after the greatness that was VLR, I only managed to watch Let's Play of 999, not actually beat it.
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>>344036757
>>344036757
>Worst game in the series.
We're talking about 999 anon, not ZTD
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>>344036649
>causes 6 billion people to die
>she deserves everything good in life
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>>344036893
>>344036757
iOS has a flowchart, can't imagine the remake won't.
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>>344036946

999 was almost unplayable, Anon. Also, the overall story was pretty meh compared to other two games, but it was the fucking gameplay that was deal-breaker
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>>344036240
Maybe. We know stable or at least somewhat stable time loops exist, it wouldn't be the only bootstrap paradox in the series.
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>>344030552
i understand the poor budget but they could've at least made the blood splatters not look like a damn clipart
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FAQ when.
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>>344036819
Yep, doesnt help Akane tried to hide her intentions of saving the world for no fucking reason
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>>344036878
Yeah, and he even went back to Japan. Not sure if he knows the true extent of the piracy, but either ways I'm pretty sure he's just done with us.
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>>344037224

>"See you next year, maybe!"

What did he mean by this?
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>>344036878
>we
Dont group me in with you. Bought the games and watches when first released.
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>>344036878
>we
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>>344037334
That he might attend Anime Expo again next year.
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>>344037334

he's going to SHIFT to Japan
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>>344033748
The fuck you talkin about
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>>344037334
>>344037224
>>344036129
999 remake confirmed for 2017
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>>344037224

>see you next year

suspicious...

masaka...!
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>>344036878
who pirated what?

there can't have been that many, r-right?
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>>344037340
>>344037359
I mean "we" as "we western people". I didn't pirate the game either, but I bet alot of guys posting ITT did.
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999 was great, the only problem was lack of a flowchart and need to repeat puzzles. It's better than VLR in many aspects and definitely better than ZTD.
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>>344037509
Wasn't the torrent pirated a million times or something, just like the Digimon Remake for psp?
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>>344037334
I dunno, visiting his fans seems like something he'd do. Maybe he'd actually open up about ZTD rather than dodge the point.
It doesn't sound too farfetched if the 999 remake thing is released.
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Meanwhile PS TV and amazon watch cucks still aren't able to play ZTD
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>>344037587
I did but i'll buy it when i get this months pay
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>>344037509
I pirated it multiple times.
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>>344037661
Thanks for ruining the series
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>>344036372
>>344036756
>>344036878
>>344037224
The games are made on a budget of 6 tacos and a burrito. They made money off the game already, I'm around 90% sure.
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>>344037509

I pirated it.

If that helps, I felt bad for the first time in my life for pirating something.

He really shouldn't have released it on Steam, I would honestly buy it on either Vita or 3DS. But I didn't have to, since I could get it for free.
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>>344037729
The series is already over anyway. Unless Uchikoshi was actually going to make a terrorist fighting game.
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>>344037608
>Bad puzzles
>Mediocre characters
>Shit pacing.
>No flowchart/High amounts of repetition
>Barely any clues about how to reach a good ending in comparison to the other games

The twist and atmosphere were good, but that's about it.
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>>344037784
>I felt bad for the first time in my life for pirating something
So this is your first Zero Escape game?
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>>344037621
source? if that many people torrented it, wouldn't more people be talking about it?
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>>344037729
maybe i'll buy it in another timeline brother
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>>344037862
>over
It's over my ass. There's so much stuff that needs to be explained.
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>>344037621
>taking anything you read on /v/ seriously
you got memed on
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>>344037772

I think this one had the biggest budget. It was fully dubbed and cutscenes were fully animated.

They should have just sticked to 999 sprites and beeps and boops instead of voice-acting. Then the games would literally cost nothing to make and a few nerds buying them would make them profit.
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>>344037987
And we only have Uchi to blame for that.
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>gun mechanism in game looks nothing like the concept art
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Why did Delta bother being in the game when he could've safely watched elsewhere?
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>>344038065
>fully
>animated
the dog has only three animations. breathing, walking, dying
i missed beepboops too
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>>344038065
>fully animated
i feel like that's a bit of a stretch looking at what we got
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>>344037683
why multiple times?
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>>344038228
for the mind haxxxx
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>>344037772
The first two games bombed in Japan. The only reason we even got ZTD is because of west support/sales, nothing else.
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>>344038192
Concept came before the game, who knew.

Also, just imagine if the whole game was made in this art style.
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>>344038192
Functionally it looks identical anon
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>>344038192
>Character doesn't wear his official art's clothes
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>>344038265
Pc couldn't run it because dx11 so I had to get the cia
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>>344038192
looks too complex for the animators to get all the little moving pieces locked in place.
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>>344034874
I can argue, because it makes no sense given other facts with more reliable sources. If Chunsoft went out of their way to request and fund sequels in bulk to games that were in the red, the Zero Escape 3 situation wouldn't have happened to begin with.

Uchikoshi's said a lot of things on Twitter that aren't exactly true. Whether it's out of not understanding English that well or being intentionally misleading, we can't take all that he says at face value.
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>>344038228
He received a divine revelation from Uchi (the actual God that FtS worships) that told him he had to be there because otherwise the twist wouldn't work
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>>344038470
>12 inch cock
It's 18, not 12.
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>>344037987
I just don't see another "Project Bluebird" being able to gain the any traction
>ZTD supposed to be the "END"
>ZE4 not even cancelled, was never planned
>ZTD made a lot of fans lose faith in Uchi
>Uchi's probably mentally drained from the whole ordeal and probably wants to turn his back on ZE

We all should just accept that it's done for.
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>>344037948
>>344038034
I don't know, heard it on /v/.

The digimon remake WAS pirated more than a million times though (selling around 30k or so, I think) and barely anybody talked about it after a month.
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>>344038192
>>344038471
>Official art is great
>Is only used in the boxart
Why
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>>344038674
But I don't wanna accept that. ;_;
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>>344038607
He could've been trapped in the chair from the beginning. Like Phi was trapped in the incinerator.
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>>344038228
MIND HACK
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>>344038192
I think someoneone pointed out a setup like that will even kill with a blank
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so is carlos and maria like a white people's name or are they hispanic

i'm not from burgerland so i have 0 idea about this
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>>344038674
>ZTD made a lot of fans lose faith in Uchi
Vocal minority. The game is rated pretty high everywhere aside from /v/ jaded fuckboys.
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>>344038470
Fuck, I don't even remember why I have this saved onto my computer.
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>>344038676
>I don't know, heard it on /v/.
dont believe everything you read on /v/
if you check KAT, the total downloads are like 5000
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>>344038943

Am I the only one that liked the ending?
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>>344039001
>I don't even remember why
I bet you do
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>>344038923
Theres many puerto rican/hispanic people with really white skin.
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>>344039001
>Dio is for never EVER.
>not allying
one job
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>>344038471
We know the reason for that, at least. The graphics team for this game couldn't do it. It seems like there were a lot of problems like that.
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>>344038923
Aren't they Portuguese names as well? I think there was a king named Carlos and a queen named Maria.
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>>344038943
You're telling me that the majority of players are fine with the ending being "buy the 4th game"? Or that a ton of plot points such as Kyle and "?" are just forgotten?
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>>344038471
>>344038769
this is why. too much of a pain in the ass to animate.

you'd just complain if they had, and you know it.
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>>344037987
Can anyone explain to me what needs to be explained?
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>>344039253

There is no need for a 4th game.

It's simple, there is a timeline where the terrorist succeeds and a timeline he's stopped.
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FACT: the only reason anyone would consider 999 superior to VLR is misplaced nostalgia / feels

the puzzle rooms in VLR are objectively superior, the characters are deeper, and the plot is more involved and interesting
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>>344039317
imagine this 2D art and a more VN style, instead of 3D cinematic style
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>>344039074
I liked that fucking Akane was a pawn to be used in someone's bigger, grander scheme.
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>>344039420
what happend to irrelevant characters appearing in 999
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>>344038065
Fucking this. This series never needed voices or animation or 3d.
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>>344036986
gawd mom, I only killed 6 billion people ONE TIME and it wasn't even in this history
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>>344039459
Kill yourself. Characters in VLR were GARBAGE.
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>>344039567
more like a detailed version of what happened to snake, santa, ace and seven. Forget about the rest
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>>344038065
>cutscenes were fully animated.
it was extremely cheaply animated
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>>344039452
You could apply that same logic to ZTD.
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>>344039580
>WAAAAAAAAH ALICE BETRAYED ME WHEN I WANTED TO FUCK HER WAAAAAAAAAAAH

This is you.
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>>344039459
>Quark
>Alice
>NeoClover
>Lagomorph

C'mon anon, I love VLR but it felt min-maxed character wise
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>>344039459
>the characters are deeper
everyone were unlikable pieces of shit except kyle and luna
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>>344039713
Snake is explained in VLR.
Ace is still in prison.
Santa is running Crash Keys along with Akane.
Seven is still a police officer.

Seriously, what else do you want? I swear 999fags are fucking retarded.
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>>344039753
I've noticed many people with an irrationally intense hatred for alice, probably because of the schrodinger's bullshit she pulls.

And yet nobody's giving junpei shit for pulling THE EXACT SAME THING in this game.
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>>344039815
>unlikable = bad character
Said like a true cuck.
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>>344039001
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>>344039420
>What happened to Kyle and [?] ?
>What happened to Carlos 2 in all the other timelines?
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>>344039921
I hate Alice because she's a massive cunt at all possible times.
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>>344040129
It's okay cause i'm pretty sure she dies the most consistently.
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>>344039459
The atmosphere, through visuals, sound, and lack of immediate danger sucked compared to 999.

Reminds me of MGS, even if 2 and 3 improved the gameplay and shit, there's something special about Shadow Moses.
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>>344040129
>explains that shes doing all of this in fear and breaks down and says shes sorry

I dunno, that was enough for me
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>>344039420
>Why is a religious fanatic gonna nuke the world?
>Can they stop it?
>Who is the REAL brother? (Delta was obviously bluffing, he's not brother. Delta being brother doesn't add up with Dios motives.)
>Who is Left?
>Why was Free The Soul featured in 999?
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>>344040129
She allies and gets screwed over eight times out of nine. She's the one person who never gets to escape. But she's treated like the most horrible person because the one timeline in which she betrays someone, it's Sigma.
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>>344040129
>implying neojunpei isn't
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>>344039921
>>344040129
>Play ZTD
>Q Team, voting on executions
>Decide to vote for C-Team
>"I-I voted that way in self defense they were probably gonna betray us"
>Mira says "That's fucking stupid and no excuse"

It was nice seeing Alice's logic from VLR getting shat on
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>People unironically saying 999 characters are good

Junpei was an average as fuck MC. He had some good moments (like tricking Ace) but was overall bland and boring (muh Akane).
Santa was Akane's bitch and a complete asshole with a poorly developed backstory (muh sister).
Snake is a mediocre character that is all about "muh Clover" but people like him because of the scene of him facing Ace (which is incredible bad written, since such a frail man should have died after a single gunshot) and a mix between his calm demeanor and character design. As a characters he is incredible lacking.
Akane was just the boring "cute and innocent" childhood friend that is suddenly the 150 IQ mastermind and we had no interesting conversations with her after discovering that fact, so she remains one-dimensional until VLR expands on her as a character and we see her other side.
Lotus is just a fanservice bitch.
Clover was garbage. People like her because "muh waifu" and the axe ending that added to the atmosphere, but her entire role in the game is being a scared little kid and trying to make you feel sorry for her or care because her brother is gone.
Seven is a very poorly developed police nigger.
9th man dies at the first 10 minutes.

The only good character in the first game was Ace, maybe Junpei if you feel he makes of for it when he's reasoning shit. But the rest of the cast sucks dicks.
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>>344036986
You don't get it, you are supposed to be glad she killed 6 billion instead of 8.
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>>344040129
So is Akane but waifufags defend her.

I guess smiling and acting like a retard gives you a free pass
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>>344040326
>(Delta was obviously bluffing, he's not brother. Delta being brother doesn't add up with Dios motives.)
But it kinda does. He sent Dio to sabotage the AB Game, so Sigma and Phi can better train their SHIFT powers and so on.
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>>344040326
>doesnt line up with Dios motives

Im pretty sure Delta wanted VLR to occur and Dio was needed and needed to think his mission was critical
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>>344040657
If everyone died then how does anyone know about it?
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>>344033612
>>344033701
>>344033752
>>344033756
>>344034146
>>344036126
several timelines spent in paint

how'd i do lads
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>>344040657
Sigma is literally Big Boss.
He never thought of his clones as sons.
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In the true timeline Kyle isn't born
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>>344040586
It's not the same logic. The way the AB Game works, betraying is a valid self-defense strategy. If someone else betrays, you can keep yourself from being harmed by betraying yourself. With the execution voting, if the other team betrays you, changing your vote will not protect you because there are already two votes against you. Changing your vote in ZTD can only harm others, not keep yourself from being betrayed.
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>>344039713
That's supplementary material shit, they're irrelevant to the actual plot of ZTD. We basically know what they're up to anyway. Seven and Lotus get together, Clover will be unfrozen because she's not needed for the AB plan anymore, and so she Snake and Alice will be secret agents and shit, while Snake plays harp. Ace will rot in prison.
>>344040012
The first one is a dropped plot point, which is unfortunate, but the second is actually kind of interesting now that you mention it.

As for the terrorists thing, sure it COULD be explained in a game, but there's not really any need. They'll catch the terrorist, obviously. There will always be another threat, it's the nature of things.
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>>344040326
>he's not brother

He CAN'T be brother. Delta being 123 is already pushing credibility (as I recall it's not possible to live past 120 due to the breakdown of DNA after multiple replications).

For Delta to be Brother he'd be well over 160 in VLR. That just can't happen, unless he like uploaded his mind into a computer or something. Dio won't even be born for like 15-20 years probably (don't know his exact age). It's not like Delta could have given him his orders personally, and it just doesn't feel like it's likely he inherited the mission.

>>344040948

I don't think there's supposed to BE any logic. I thought it was made clear that Delta was mind-hacking Diana and Carlos into voting the other way, depending on the timeline. Sean was just programmed to vote that way.
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>>344033748
It only adds voice to the game, right? Not remake it with 3d or anything? I hope my toaster can run it.
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>>344040659
>immediately able to figure out complex anagrams and the algorithm to how to figure out the antidote off the top of her head
>can't figure out L-D-E-T-A is an anagram for Delta

How can someone so inhumanly brilliant at times also be so retarded?
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>>344041160
>They'll catch the terrorist, obviously. There will always be another threat, it's the nature of things.
ZTD was unneeded then. I mean, they'd have stopped R6 from spreading, obviously. They prepared 45 years just for that.
Do you remember the last time the world was about to end? Me neither.
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>>344041339
The logic I mean is Alice's logic and Mira's logic about the voting strategy in the two games. That's not related to the mind hacking, just the game rules.
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>>344041160
>but the second is actually kind of interesting now that you mention it
They also dropped the ball when foreshadowing the Q is Delta twist by showing Q and Phi alive in the status screen after Phi and Delta are born. Carlos should always appear as alive for the same reason.
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>>344041489
>Do you remember the last time the world was about to end
Because it's always saved, silly.
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>>344041489
No, it was well stated that the timeline without R6 didn't exist without Akane's plan, and Brother also stated the one where the terrorist is stopped didn't exist until the true end of ZTD happened.
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> just beat the game
> I can finally shitpost again
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I'm going to marry Carlos!
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>>344041762
Same. I want more C O M P L E X.
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So 999's entire plot was basically a gigantic plan by Akane to close the time loop and make sure that Junpei developed the ability to access the morphogenetic field and go back and save her when she was a kid. If you make decisions that won't lead towards the true ending, she starts to become violently ill, and is implied to either die or be totally wiped from existence in all of the bad ends where Junpei doesn't go back and save her.

Yet Delta is willing to let everybody walk if they win the coin toss, even though this 100% will guarantee he will never be born, and he suffers no ill effects whatsoever?
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>>344041750
Yes, but VLR gave them the tools to create said timeline, same way that ZTD gave them the tools to stop the terrorist. It's the same shit.
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>>344041943
he doesn't need the game because a copy of him will always exist thanks to the alien machine ignoring time paradoxes and all that other stuff
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>>344041943
Judging by the end of the game, I think the coin flip is a way to get them outside after his plan is completed while also creating a universe where they lose and he gets born
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Who would you cast in a Zero Escape 4?

It's hard because so many people could reasonably be involved going after the terrorist.

Akane
Junpei
Carlos
Sigma
Phi
Diana
Aoi
Obligatory New protagonist
Left clone
Zero 2.5: the terrorist

But then it feels like maybe there aren't enough new characters.
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>>344041943
Shifting works differently than sending/receiving probably.
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>>344041943
999 is a single universe.

VLR and ZTD are multiverse.
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>>344042193
No
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>>344042193
explain the safe then, 999 is also a multiverse
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>>344042148
zero is always the protag. also in ze4 he is an alien.
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I wanna cuddle with Phi and Diana
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>>344042193
that's why 999 is the only good one
you feel like accomplished something

VLR? ZTD? who cares, there are infinite timelines

also lol

>infinite timelines
>BUT THERE WAS NO ONE WHERE RAD-6 IS STOPPED UNTIL NOW!

it was dumb, I like to think that old akane was lying about everything and she was working with Brother from the start
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>>344041339
>as I recall it's not possible to live past 120 due to the breakdown of DNA after multiple replications
Shifting, going back through time, accessing meme field also not possible irl, your point?
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>>344041801
>yes tier
>Sigma
>Carlos
>Kyle
>Seven
>Snake

>cucked tier
>Junpei

>shota tier
>Quark
>Sean

>never ever tier
>Q
>Dio
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>>344042446
>there are no timelines where you will be able to do it
why even live
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>>344042148
Carlos
One handed Carlos
Fireman Carlos
Rapist Carlos
Friendly Carlos
Carlos locked in obligatory helmet and/or bodysuit
Carlos with giant breasts
Zero IV (revealed to be a Carlos clone from the future)
Gab
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>>344042454
>ESP isn't real
Do you actually believe that?
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>>344041339
delta is brother.
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>>344042148
I wouldn't.

Maybe Uchi will make an action/stealth/puzzle/something game in the future using a mostly new cast where they stop the religious fanatic.

No complexities necessary.
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I didn't dislike ZTD, but I was unsatisfied. You could call my feelings toward the game complex.
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So wait, if shifting involves swapping bodies with your alternate self rather than overwriting them entirely, why the fuck are the crew not constantly getting booted between timelines?

Why did the ones that won the coin flip not swap back?
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Seems like the best place to ask, does anyone have that pic of Kyle Hyde saying something like I''M TIRED OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING
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>>344042451
The worst part is that the situation was the complete opposite of what was built up. There's only one timeline in which Radical-6 gets out, by really contrived circumstances. Nobody did a thing to stop it.
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>>344042621
>Fanatic Carlos is actually the second Carlos
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>>344039921
Junpei gets a free pace for being Junpei, because they decided to go with Alice first, and because everyone who played VLR knew it was coming and hopefully had a laugh.

The worst part of Alice is killing you right after you cured her.
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>>344042717
some probably did, infinite universes. we've seen the ones they didn't swap back.
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>>344039996
Still a better ending than what we had
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>>344042148
Eric
Dio
Ace
Young Delta
Junpei/Akane's mind hacking kid
Schizophrenic Maria
Santa
Snake
Dio, again
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>>344041943
VLR and ZTD work under the many worlds theory, 999 doesn't. It's a plothole.
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>>344042898
>infinite universes

Wait, wasn't the entire point of VLR that there ISN'T infinite universes? Or that, at the very least, there's only limited variation between them?

Why the fuck bother doing all that if they could just go to a safe one? Delta is the only one who NEEDS to somehow make a safe one to live in, but he doesn't care if he lives or dies, so why bother saving any?
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>>344042992
>2 Dio clones in one game
>They always go off together to scheme
>Helping each other out and being best friends

I'd buy it
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>>344043119
>>344042283
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>>344043119
Magical alien technology resolves all plot holes.
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>>344043204
They'd be assholes to themselves.
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>>344043204
>Dio clone
>Is a woman.
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So can anyone actually explain why Delta chose to pretend to be Q? What did he have to gain from pretending to be a blind, deaf, wheelchair bound old man? Could he not have just hung out in a secret room in the bunker and watched the whole thing with his surveillance glasses? I mean, he even got killed in one of the votes. What possible reason would he have to physically be on a team other than for the DANK TWIST?
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>>344043425
Mind hack range.
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>>344043410
basically dio in mira skin
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>>344042283
What safe?
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>tfw you shitposted a better story than what we got
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>>344041351
My Thinkpad T420 can run ZTD nicely. I bet your toaster can too and would be able to run 999's remake with ease.
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>>344043119
How is 999 not a multi-verse?

All the times Junpei died are failed timelines that he manages to avoid in the true ending by accessing the morphogenetic field to not make the same mistakes.

those timelines still happened and exist
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>>344043425
COMPLEX SNAIL MIND HACKING MOTIVES
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>>344042451
Yeah it seems like there can't actually be infinite timelines, if so much had to happen just to create a good one.
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>>344032583
best ending
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>344043523
Yeah, but he wasn't hanging around Team D or C, right? He was in hiding and mind hacked them just fine.
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>>344043214
> Q25: In 999, Akane disappears when you don’t reach the True Ending. This implies that changing the past affects the present. In VLR, Tenmyouji explains to “?” at the end that even if Sigma could change the past, the timeline that they live in will remain the same. If Sigma can stop Radical-6 in the past, this will only create a new timeline. This implies that changing the past does NOT affect the present. Don’t these games have contradicting ideas?
>Even if you had changed the past and prevented Radical-6 from spreading, the setting is made so that there will be no changes made to the VLR history. And let’s say VLR’s history does get destroyed. Then Sigma’s old consciousness won’t be able to return to 2028 and as a result he won’t be able to stop the Radical-6 outbreak. Same goes for 999. The true end is where Junpei accesses the Morphogenetic Field 9 years ago and saves Akane, but if he isn’t successful, then a new timeline is created. And the extension of that history is the Junpei who couldn’t find Akane at the chapel. (*We call this end that isn’t the True End the B End.) However, there may be some of you that will say “Hey, Akane did exist in the B End route though”. Well you’re exactly right. In that history Akane should not have existed. So in other words, the contradiction isn’t the setting between 999 and VLR, but rather it is in the B Ending. However, if you consider that Akane had jumped to the B End route with her whole body and not just her psyche then it would all make sense… If that is the case, then Akane did not disappear in the chapel but she just made her escape, or you can say that her whole body jumped to another time line.

It's still a plot hole, the only way Uchi got around it is by making up bullshit and saying Akane somehow "jumped" with her whole body instead of her Phyche from the Safe End, which makes no sense.
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>>344043523
He can't even MIND HACK Sean. Also he's not with C and D-Team but clearly hacks them.
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>>344042829
The fanatic being the second Carlos is such a hilarious thought though.

It'd make that ending worth it. Almost.
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>>344043631
The Q&A explicitly said they don't exist
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>>344043594
>thinkpad
Isn't at least mid-end? My pc is an ancient one from eight years ago. Not even a core2duo.
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>>344043425
It's too complex to explain to a simple mind like you. You see, there once was a snail...
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>>344040321
>woman cries and says she's sorry
wew, that means everything is forgiven
cuck
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>>344043425
>dank
Reddit is that way, faggot.
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>>344043789
how the fuck did he download the memories from those timelines if those timelines don't exist

i'll get chewed out for this but how about the Q&A is fucking wrong then
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