35 minutes of gameplay for Berseria
https://youtu.be/NamdLxUjJ5o
The green area looks like total shit. Why do they insist on using those horrible dark colors?
How much Baba influenced the development?
Why does this series always have dogshit graphics?
>>344010313
Is is me or do they keep emptying the menus more and more with each game?
![[HorribleSubs] Hajime no Ippo - Rising - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.32_[2014.07.24_21.31.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xUkMhNa.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Hajime no Ippo - Rising - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.32_[2014.07.24_21.31.11].jpg")
>>344010313
is this the first time we have a completely flat grown woman in tales?
>>344011295
That's no one in Berseria
>>344010474
Probably not at all, I can see him being involved in communicating with ufotable for the Zestiria anime while the other producer developed this game.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nxp1Z7a.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>344010474
None. He's now just the general supervisor for the Tales Series.
I think they made up a title for him just so it looks like he still has a role in Namco.
>>344011295
Theres also Arche in phantasia, she fucked like a tiger though
This getting a PC release?
>>344014713
Yes
>>344010313
So, weapons have skills on them now again? Or what am I seeing here?
>>344010313
Jesus fucking Christ, what happened to the art style of this series.
I remember Vesperia looking very beautiful and vibrant, even with the shit resolution. How the fuck can a game that's coming out ten years later at 1080P look so fucking dull.
Those character models are pathetic too.
>>344010313
While I do appreciate 30 minutes of gameplay
I'd much rather download a free demo on psn and play it for myself
games nowadays don't have to many demos for people to see if they like the games
>>344014857
Yes they do. There's a master skill for each weapon which you can learn permanently. You can learn skills from titles too.
>>344013547
>Hail Hydra
>>344014753
Can't fucking wait to buy this game then. Day1 even with a shit port.
>>344014974
This makes me happy.
I like the Katz-Chests too because they encourage you to explore the map not only for them but also the key thingies you need.
Way better than Zestiria's "progress the story to open these chests" bullshit
>>344014905
Cause they keep using those shit dark palettes from Xillia. Disagree with the models though. They're a lot more detailed compared to previous titles and look nice.
>>344014974
So it's a combination of Vesperia and Graces? I'm fine as long as it's nothing like that shit system Zestiria had.
>>344010313
post more Majilouespecially in her beach costume
>>344010474
He's into hiding.
>>344015318
>I mean Magilou
>>344014857
This chara looks pretty sweer, I'll probably main her or the Samurai.
>>344010313
It seems they are pandering otakus more than usual, I wonder if it will have low-homolust?
>>344010313
>PS2 tier graphics
This is what weebs eat up
>>344015102
Zestiria was a decent port so I wouldn't worry. They put effort into those unlike Symphonia which was just a extra grab. Wonder if they'll do one for Berseria too.
>>344015171
There's no fusing equipment at all
>>344015318
Ok
>>344010474
They did that passive agressive japanese shit where they make-up a fake position for you in the company, and have you sit around doing nothing with much less pay than you had before forever.
Can anyone tell me why everyone hates Zestiria?
I'm no Tales fan. I've only played Vesperia which I found wholly underwhelming, and pretty mediocre.
Zestiria is more of the same, but I sort of like it better than Vesperia. Which is weird. Might be because I went in thinking it was going to suck.
I've already passed the part whereAlisha leaves; did that play a huge part in the hatred the game receives? Or the fact that you can only use two human characters and the rest are seraphs?
I don't get it desu...
>>344010313
After the shit pile that was zestria how can anyone be ready to buy berseria eyes closed.
>>344015631
Zestiria was just mediocre on all levels.
I don't hate it but it wasn't a good game at all. I'd never voluntarily replay it.
>>344015631
Stupid skill/equipment system
Areas are giant for no reasons at all, especially the dungeons
Story is badly paced, at some point you'll be looking for balls
Waaaay too much focus on Rose in the second half, with some weird stuff as "I can kill without getting corrupted because I believe in myself" or some shit
The game is just... not good. Mediocre.
The only good thing is the homolust, but Mikleo stops being relevant after the first 5 hours.
I want to rub sunscreen oil her flat chest
>>344015631
>Two characters are locked into the party
>The camera is awful
>You can only map 5 artes to use in battle (Less than Symphonia, the first 3D Tales) while in Xillia 2 you could map up to 32
>Armetization is forced upon you to deal decent damage to bosses, and it's also broken as shit, with some forms being much better than others
>The skill system is a hot mess and a nightmare compared to pretty much all the other skill systems in the series
>The open world adds nothing to the game at all, and all the substantial stuff hat should be unlocked within the game is actually behind paid DLC walls
>Worst endgame in the entire series
>The plot is awful and Rose hijacks it halfway through
>The game literally locks a fully done and playable character away from you for no reason at all, literally crippling whatever little party customization you could have
>>344016043
>sunscreen
she uses magic to protect her skin from UV rays and would never allow your filthy hands come even remotely close to her
forget it anon
>>344015631
all the characters were super dull.
Combat was stupid. Merging with seraphs was cool at first, but when it became the standard the game had little to offer after that.
Fuck ton of walking quests.
A quick travel system that needed polishing bad.
>>344015563
Yeah I preordered Zestiria early and had a blast with it. Over 80 hours, free Alisha DLC (still mad she cant armatize) and free copy of Symphonia. Also wtf is this God Eater dlc? I never knew I had so much free shit.
>>344016093
>>The game literally locks a fully done and playable character away from you for no reason at all, literally crippling whatever little party customization you could have
who would that be?
>>344016298
>all the characters were super dull.
Character were fine outside of Rose and Alisha.
>>344016378
The one and only Alisha
>>344016463
>>344016378
>>344016093
Did anyone fucking bitch this much when Richard is locked away in Graces? Even in Graces F, you only get to use him a lot in the postgame.
>>344016378
Alisha. They pull a Flynn with her, except that Flynn in the X360 Vesperia only had 5 Artes programmed in, and had no Skills to learn.
Alisha on the other hand is a complete character. I'm still pissed they took gameplay variation away from the players just because Rose's VA was Baba's waifu.
Hell, even if it made sense within the story for her never to return, who the fuck even play these games for the plot. It's all about the gameplay.
>>344016463
oh god I remember now
come to think of it, I never finished this game, I chose Alisha as a member over Rose at some point and stopped at a boss, did I miss anything from that point?
>>344016332
Gives you a costume for Sorey and another lewd one for Rose/Alisha
>>344016463
Alisha got fucked so bad for no reason. Just laziness on the dev's part. Got flashbacks of Versperia on the 360 and you couldnt play as Flynn. Fucking why!?
>>344016662
Sweet, might use in a ng+ run.
>>344016631
Japs did but, Graces never came here.
Graces F has him as a party member through the post game F arc, which is enough.
>>344016418
Dude.....ruins......i like ruins......Ruins.
>>344016740
>Alisha got fucked so bad for no reason
And now we have to suffer and see her shoved into everything. The first anime episode for example.
>>344016814
And how different is being locked away with postgame than it is with Alisha locked away with DLC? Richard is a ridiculously good character and his sword style was more like classic tales heroes than Asbel's. He had mystic arts and everything and a shit ton of titles that you never would have a chance to unlock, let alone master before he leaves for plot reasons.
>>344016631
Richard was originally meant to leave
He was meant to be an enemy because of the circumstances of the stroy, unlike in Zestiria when there is literraly no sound reason
He wasn't the marketed heroine with a beloved voice actress
It wasn't shoved in our face that Richard was gone with his weapons still showing up shops
For Richard it was to save him from being possessed
For Alisha, it was to make room for Rose and nothing else
>>344016806
>>344016662
There's some boob bounce to that costume but nowhere near as much as the Milla outfit for some reason.
>>344017093
He's literally fuly playable in the entire Final arc and post-game. And he's the villain. He was meant to leave, and he's still fully playable and joins the party later on. (In Graces F, which is the version we got).
Alisha was created as the main heroine, and was phased out because Baba wanted to stroke the ego of his favorite VA.
>>344010313
Glad I stopped following this series after Vesperia. Every single game after that has looks like a cheaply made mess.
>>344017115
So basically mad over waifu shit? Alisha was boring as fuck to play as in the early game and I did not miss her at all in a gameplay aspect.
>Costume DLC is already out and I expensive as shit
>It's just the first package
I didn't they would be worse than Zestiria's costume DLC
>>344017131
Compare the difference.
So who else is going to pirate all the DLC?
>>344017335
Me. Fuck paying for in-game content. They're not even trying to hide it anymore.
>New weapons for Alisha still show up in shops all the way to the end of the game
>She never returns
Fucking hell I'm still mad as fuck about that. It would one thing if people were just speculating that Baba changed directions later in production to fap to his favorite VA, but he didn't even had the decency to hide it.
>>344017309
Is this a handheld game or what
>>344015957
Did they fug?
>>344017231
Tales fans are the biggest retards in the industry. They keep buying game after game despite the series progressively getting worse with every single entry.
>>344017276
Costume DLC is how they double their sales. It's just how this business works nowadays which sucks ass.
I would have loved a beach sequence playing out where everyone gets their costumes in some sidequest. Velvet and Aizen could have bullied Laphiset by tossing a beach ball and never letting him reach it. Magilou would bask in the sun and joke around.
Too bad we'll never get something like that again.
>>344016885
Forgot about that anime. I'll wait till it finishes and binge watch.
>>344017131
>tfw
>>344017276
They are just costumes, if you don't think they are worth the price then you don't have to buy them.
>>344016231
[spolier]>But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
>I have spread my dreams under your feet;
>Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.[/spoiler]
>>344015523
Looks good, tbqh. Glad they got rid of Zestiria's link system
>>344017639
>No ass
>No tits
>Built like a twig
This is triggering me
>Going around the world in the endgame to sidequest for costumes was one of my favorite things in Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia
>Get a cheap PS3 in early 2012
>Buy ToX without having heard much about it, and play it blindly like I did all the other games
>Get to the endgame, go around the world looking for quests
>Do a bunch of sidequests with cutscenes and shit, but no rewards
>Eventually give up and search on the internet
>Find out that there's only 3 in-game costumes
>Everything else is DLC
I'll never forget how pissed I was. I'll be pirating all the DLC in this shit.
>>344016378
>>344016463
It doesn't "lock her away" but rather the game is unfinished in many regards. What becomes fairly obvious once you've played through the game is that they wanted to do a two route system with the main girls, potentially in one side you'd team up with Rose and see more of her story and the other would be Alisha and the more political side of the world.
What happens is that they had to rush the game out and chose to go with Rose instead of Alisha, what this means is that just about everything relating to Alisha is either not in the game or very short and hurried. The other characters like Maltran suffer deeply for this, sheturns out to be a bad guy and her entire story arc is nonexistent to the point where she randomly turns later in the game, does something bad, then you kill her and it's all over. There is very little buildup or explanation, shit just happens and that's it.
>>344017486
Too bad I enjoy them still. Graces F, Hearts R and the Xillia's didn't disappoint me. It's probably cause all I give a fuck about is the battle system and skits.
>>344017750
Perfect women trigger you? Why?
>>344017816
Only Tales I've been disappointed in so far is Zestiria and only because of the camera, the armatize gimmick and the stupid open fields. I will finish it but it is definitely not as fun as previous entries.
Ugghhhh, I'm at the Earth Trail temple in Zestiria.
When is Alisha coming back?
Rose is so fucking uninteresting and boring. She does not even look cute or cool.
>>344017974
Never. Enjoy Rose.
>>344017817
America has indoctrinated their youth to convince them that fat is beautiful.
>>344017974
much, much later
enjoy it while you can, though
>>344016662
>>344017131
Please, post moar.
>>344010313
Please tell me that that's a loli or flat older woman and not the fucking Shota in drag.
>>344017974
>Alisha
>coming back
i fuking wish. dropped the game when i learned she's not coming back. enjoy the mary sue rose
>>344017257
It's not I don't miss Alisha
I just hate rose, she is literately perfect
>fun loving
>boss of assassin group
>can kill but no malevolence
>has powers equal to that of the shepard
>is never wrong on anything
>always saying lines and teaching the party members about stuff as if she is like some kind of mentor
She is all these different types of characters and is an overpowered character in general, for no fucking reason
I can't relate or like Rose because she is everything that goes into and oc character
>>344017974
you'll get her again close to the end for one boss battle, then she leaves the party again
I like Tales game but holy shit every time I look up DLCs for anything worthwile it's either things you can unlock by playing the fucking game or overpriced skins. Zestiria was the worst since you could only control the MC on the map. Why does no one get mad at this?
>>344018609
People did get mad.
Why did they port Zestiria 1 but not Zestiria 2?
>>344018764
What are you talking about
>>344015631
i have to look for all the balls now im getting really tired of the game right now
think i'm going to put it on normal mode or simple and just blast through it now
>>344017527
>They are just costumes, if you don't think they are worth the price then you don't have to buy them.
Yeah, it's not like the used to be in game content in the past.
>>344018952
Symphonia
>do sidequest
>get costume for some noble ball
>can only select one character besides Lloyd to get it per playthrough
>get a nice dialogue between the two characters
Berseria
>buy costume
>get costume, nothing more
We're losing so much more through this, but Bamco makes more money
>>344019223
B-but it's just cosmetic!!!
>That whole side-quest with Raine doing the wind-dance for the wind costume
>>344019315
It just makes the whole world and characters feel less alive, which has been a major problem for me with recent tales games.
>playing Tales of games for anything else except the combat system
Disgusting
>>344017817
>>344018009
Do sticks arouse you?
>>344019525
I-I'm sorry.
>>344010313
I don't play Tales but I do jack off to porn.
What's this Tales of meme of a girl named Sodia getting raped?
Zestiria was amazing!!! xD
Cannot wait for beseria!
>>344019783
Same, pre-ordered day 1
Will cuddle with Bienfu plush toy every night
>>344014610
I want that to be the official translation so fucking bad
People always post pure combo videos to talk about the games combat system
How about posting actual boss battles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrKKukpqco
>>344020382
Dodging time stop and meteor swarm is much harder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuzozxvWAI
I'm in the middle of my first zestiria playthrough, does armatization become required for every boss later on? Does it get more varied? Because for now armatization seems to give you a choice between auto attacks and spells, and I never liked playing spellscasters. Human gameplay is way more fun but it doesn't seem very powerful outside of trashmobs.
>>344010563
it's from japan
Will Artorius really be THAT evil? I mean, he saved the world once, is said to be a young guy, so I guess pretty idealistic, and even left Vevlvet alive. Surely he cant be THAT evil as Velvet makes it seems.
>>344020831
I think he'll be over justice that it makes him appear evil
>>344020831
I just hope he's a good villan. Heldalf was boring. Bisley was ok but needed more screen time.
>>344020691
Surviving 100 meter fall is also hard. Doesn't make it fun though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgouIMqlZhU
>>344021051
This.
>>344020712
armatization is not very diverse with it's movesets
I use spells only when it'll strike a weakness to start a combo
Armatizing for bosses is a must if you want to do any real damage
unfortuneately the game doesn't understnad what balance is so it's up to you whether you want to be broken as fuck or struggle and not fuse
>>344020382
I always get a kick outta this one
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8159921
>>344021085
I didn't like graces with all the free hi ougis from combos and dodging being so OP
The extra dungeon was chill though
People on 4chan and also game websites told me that zestiria game was bad but I didn't listen to them and judge for myself since I am an adult with money and my own mind so I gave the game a chance and it's pretty good the only thing I didn't like was the game was stopped you from teleporting to certain places certain times during the story so you had to walk everywhere and also the entire water dungeon wad shit
It's funny how some people praise shit games games like Gravity Rush and drakengard and whatever visual novel you people circlejerk and yet bash games with good gameplay
The key advice to anybody is to never listen to 4chan or anybody else except yourself. There are plenty of games I love that the majority hate or see as mediocore 4chan I don't care
I also enjoy Star Ocean 4 and bought so5
>>344021313
>I didn't like graces with all the free hi ougis from combos
Huh, that was the thing that I liked about it. You were always working towards that next 25, 50 or 75 hit combo. And your reward was a mystic arte. Mystic artes were not just about waiting long enough to have a full meter or anything. You earned those MAs.
>>344021512
Ever played any other tales game? I guess I would have liked Zestiria too if it was my first one.
>>344021732
I did like that feeling too.
>>344021732
Call me old fashioned, but you should only get to use them as a last resort kinda thing when your health is below a certain threshold and stuff like that
>>344021732
>>344021916
who is this fair maiden?
>>344019525
>Combat system
>In Phantom Flash: The Game
Heh
>>344022123
Sophie from tales of graces: F
laphicet is cute!
>>344022727
Just need a leash and he's my perfect shota pet
>>344019612
>yfw you realize she cucked Asbel in the ending when Richard, in his envy, sent her to "boost the morale" of the troops all over the world using her body
>That's the reason she's so surprised and scared of Absel in the F arc. She's been getting the pleasure of being cummed inside all over the globe.
>>344023052
I guess I need to play graces now
>>344015631
>two human characters with 2 seraphs
>hated the areas
>I only liked 2 characters in the game
>fusing with seraphs battle system
Those were the reasons I disliked it. I didn't give a shit about the whole Alisha ordeal. I just hated the characters, battle system, and areas.
So pretty much the whole game. I didn't finish the game because of all of this.
Every Tales Of game after Vesperia had some change in it that I didn't like. TOX's horrible link system and rushed story, TOX2 keeping the link system plus the forced characters in your party for the story missions.
>used Ludger, Jude, Alvin, andGauis
>equip them with the best current weapons, and improve their stats myself
>do a story mission
>so how about we fuck your shit up and make you use Milla, Elize, and Leia
>well fuck you too
I still liked TOX2 better then TOZ, and TOX. The characters changed a lot in a good way, and the story was a bit better. Ludger was also a fantastic MC even if he was silent. The story missions just really screwed with me.
>>344023289
>Dresses up like a huge whore
>One of the villains kidnaps and threatens to rape her, and she doesn't even care
>NPC soldier lines all over the game talking about how hot she is
>One of the sidequests features her asking a guy out to go "have some fun somewhere more private"
>At the end, she goes off to "boost the morale" of the soldiers while the MC stays behind running his city.
Cheria is the biggest slut in the entire series.
I like how cute they are together.
>>344023625
Right.
>>344023719
I never got gay vibes from these two, just looked like good buddies to me. Maybe I'm just blind towards such things
>>344024082
>>344023601
>>used Ludger, Jude, Alvin, andGauis
I'm gay and I even I didn't make a party with this many dicks.
Muze a best.
>>344021806
That sounds like past anyway.
Wait, so Alvin gave the 9 incher to Leia?
>>344014610
Arche was fifteen iirc
Huh thought the hair color change at the tips was just weird lighting. Guess it's just his actual hair.
>>344024234
God, I want Alvin to fuck me so much.
And maybe even switch and fuck him later.
>>344024234
>>344024904
>trying to troll others into believing that gay people actually exist
you think you're funny but you're just wasting your time
>>344010313
No thanks. Not after zestria. Might pirate one day if I'm bored
>>344023719
>mfw Mikleo's hand clearly touches Sorey's crotch
>>344025259
Perfectly straight
>This series will never ever be this good again because the Tales team is lazy as fuck and Vesperia was "too much work"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QSY0iYMWms
>>344011295
Raine from Tales of Symphonia
>>344010313
>They switched back to the Xillia aesthetic and improved Zestiria's combat
>Actual good FPS again
Consider me hyped
Obligatory
>>344026114
Shiet, why cant we get another mc who looks professional as fuck like this? instead we get a homo who likes to fuck with his ghost friend in ruins.
>tfw Xillia 2 has my favourite cast, combat, and story
I wish all Tales games had the balls to do what Xillia 2 did
>>344026385
Because Ludger looked like an NPC.
Just a reminder.
Do you like tales cosplay?
>>344026921
>>344010313
I'm glad the party actually looks unique instead of that colour coded nonsense Zestiria did where everyone ('cept the wind seraphs) had the same design to them
>>344026539
He only looks like an NPC because he looks like a normal guy, hair colors notwithstanding.
>>344010313
The guy playing in the video is failing everything gameplay related he's attempting.
>Never manages to counter anything with Rokuro
>Never manages to use Magilou's spirit absorber
>Mashes the same combo over and over
Also, someone please explain what Eleanor's unique ability is. It looks like she launches the opponent into the air, but the guy playing didn't do anything afterwards. Can it be followed up with an air combo or something? The game doesn't even have jumping, does it?
>>344027332The joke is that is that someone at Bamco thought Lugder's design was too much like an NPC and didn't stand out.
>>344027530
That someone is a literal retard
why there isn't any nude mods for Zestiria
why don't you faggots just do your fucking job... it 's the only thing you are go at in this god damned life
>>344010313
I haven't kept up with this game since the teaser but it makes me uneasy as hell that this looks so much like zesty. I lost some hype tbqh.
>>344027854
*good
:v
>>344027530
Please, let the person be Baba, because he cannot touch tales ever again.
>>344027750
>>344028076
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/10/17/tales-xillia-2-character-designer-designing-world-characters/
>>344027854
Nude mods are so boring. And stupid. Who could ever get off on something like that? Lewd outfits are way better.
Tales of Graces F needs more love
>4 mystic artes per person
>Flashy, over-the-top mystic artes only rivaled by Xillia 2
>A pretty long game, especially with the F Arc
>Delicious 60FPS
And best of all
>The dolls that replicate characters
>Playing evil Richard throughout the entire main campaign and hearing evil Richard say all 4 Mystic Artes in his voice like that
>The fact that recorded that alone shows the polish
I love Graces F so much
>>344025795
I'm guessing you never bothered looking at any of her other outfits.
>>344020382
>those anime tier dodges and iatio style moves
>hi ougi chaining
>accel mode
>bosses going beserk during eleth break and spamming shit
I don't give a FUCK what anybody says about graces F its some of the best times I had in a tales game and everybody was a blast to play and everybody can combo well and shit. Doing shit like this in the extra dungeon with a bro was the highlight of this series for me. When will bosses be this good again?
>>344027528
>Also, someone please explain what Eleanor's unique ability is
Getting me hard everytime she is on screen
>>344010313
maybe i just hate change but those new skits look super awkward to me. there was nothing wrong with the way they were handled in Graces of Xillia, the constant shifts are jarring, stahp
>>344019525
>combat
>Graces
LMAO
>>344028570
>4 mystic artes per person
Make it 5 for Sophie.
>mfw landing a Fire Dragon Rampage
I'm planning to do a Richard run after we beat Vesperia becauseI'm not really liking Vesperias battle system and it's leaving a bad taste in my mouth
>>344010313
holy christ even for a Tales game those skits are long as fuck. the comic book format doesn't really work for me either.
>>344030376
wtf is that image
>>344010313
This weird Zestiria character artstyle looks like shit. Did they hire a new designer or something?
>>344030190
Malik had 5 blast calibers as well
>>344010313
So many girls are playing this
>>344010563
Cuz this is still rocking on the PS3
>>344030485
not sure what you mean, they've been using that art style since xillia
>>344030376
>WHERE ARE MUH SKITS!??! ZESTIRIA DIDN'T HAVE MUH SKITS! MUH SKIIIIIIITS!
>Berseria has skits
>FUCK BERSERIA THE SKITS ARE 2 LONG!!!!
Tales """"fans"""" should be taken behind the barn door and shot.
>>344017231
all Tales games are perfectly decent except zestiria, tempest and symphonia 2.
2 of those were bad enough to get demoted to "escort game" status, so basically Zestiria is the only outright bad game in the mainline series
like yeah, in the end Vesperia is still pretty much the best one, but I enjoyed Xillia 2 just as much 2bh family. good combat and time travel shenanigans which are a huge weakness of mine
>>344030190
OK serious question
How foes Vesperia's combat work? It seems like only certain arties will chain (which I don't like) and it's annoying. I end up spamming destruction field and shinning dragon swarm a lot. Is there a way to chain more.
>>344030715
Cant really tell what it is, but pretty much all characters look plain boring and uninspired to me. Maybe its just the fact that they went for a more fantasy/medieval like setting again.
>>344030804
zestiria had skits, what the fucking shit are you talking about? no one ever complained it didn't have skits.
2+ minutes seems a tad excessive is all, christ, chill the fuck out man
>>344030804
I must be the only one who doesn't care about skits
the devs can't include anything important in them because theyre optional. so they're limited to dumb qshit like "guess what i found in rita's drawer XD"
>>344030819
xillia 1 is just as bad as zestiria.
>>344030481
memes
>>344031061
At least Xillia didn't have a shit battle system
>>344031127
it did tho, the bosses are the most important part of combat and those were complete garbage.
>>344030971
Now this is just revisionist history
You Baba shitters were sobbing and SHITTING IN YOUR FUCKING PANTS about skits in Zestiria being confined to inns, and about the overall lack of skits in the game in general
But now the skits are ""too long""
Seriously, neck yourself. It'll be for the best
>>344030376
Pretty sure one video with every skit from this game will be longer than the whole game itself. It probably has been in Xillia/2 with all the Main/Sub/Etc. skits
>>344010313
>tell shota that women are dangerous and liars
>That super sexist dialogue
CENSOR THIS!! REE
>>344031215
Woah turn based combat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ayyy finally these fucks go back to the good old shit
>>344031252
do u know nip or was this subbed
>>344031374
>>344031061
Not even remotely. I don't know who started this hate train on Xillia games, every time I see people start to bitch it's always fucking nitpicking about some particular thing that person didn't like.
Xillia 2 has one of the best combat systems in the series. It was an apology game because Bamco forced them to release Xillia 1 unfinished and they had more shit they wanted to do with that world, so they made X2. and it fucking owns.
the only thing i disliked was how alt milla was handled, and the endings outside the grimdark Bro End are pretty unsatisfying. but otherwise i had no issues with the gameplay or story.
>>344031416
It's not subbed
>being an EOP
>>344031494
i specified XILLIA 1 for a reason
it's a much worse game than zestiria on a technical and design level
>>344031538
ahh.. sou desu ka. gomen, nihongo wakaru-senpai.
>>344031215
dude if you want to have a rhetorical argument for the sake of arguing just because you have a compulsive need to tell people to kill themselves, just say so. don't pretend you want to actually discuss anything.
>>344031562
>it's a much worse game than zestiria on a technical and design level
And yet Xilia still was more fun overall. I played both games for around 90h and would say that I know most shit about both games. The battlesystem alone made Zestiria a joke. They took the Graces combat which was perfectly fine and fun and somehow managed to make it shit. Unlike Graces it literally feels like button mashing all the time. Also the heavy grinding at endgame completly kills this game. You barely feel any progress through leveling and if you want to feel your characters getting stronger you have to grind for fucking hours until you finally have a weapon with decent skills on it. While the idea of a focus on weapons and equipment instead of raw stats through leveling was good it was terrible implemented.
>>344023719
>>344024082
>>344024191
So, do they end up going homo by the end?
>>344031562
That literally isn't possible, either you haven't actually played Zestiria or you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
zestiria's textures, camera, combat system, it's all completely fucked, it runs at half the framerate, let's not even speak of how bad the low-resolution objects and textures look in every cutscene, it's a technical mess and the core design is all over the fucking place, it contradicts itself morally and tonally
if i were bamco i would feel deeply ashamed of zestiria as a game.
nothing else in the series comes off anywhere close to the level of incompetence in Zestiria.
like holy shit, if something is further than ten feet away from Sorey it either moves at clipshow framerate or just pops out of existence. i know i am probably taking bait super hard but this comparison will not stand, i'm sorry
How does it feel to know team symphonia design philosophy is effectively dead and team destiny style won the war?
>>344010313
Do we know what everybody's Break Soul does yet? Magilou's and Eleanor's look a bit underwhelming.
>>344032147
framerate is a non-issue on the PC version, textures and colors look much better than xillia at high settings. on the contrary xillia's framerate went to shit any time you started a link arte combo.
you have a point with the camera, but that isn't as big of a problem as the myriad of technical issues in xillia.
both are terrible games, xillia (1) is just worse.
Looks pretty good outside of the battle ending so fast
>>344032147
Zestiria's textures on PC/PS4 look godlike compared to the PS3 Tales of games.
>>344032242
If you look at the previous trailer the break souls they use are different. Elanor for example does a jump and spin attack from above instead of just doing one attack to launch the enemy into the air. There seems to be different break souls which you can use.
>>344032594
>>344032537
No they don't. They're identical ports of the PS3 version.
>>344032242
The idiot doesn't know how to use Magilou's break soul. She does some flower field attack.
>>344026385
ironically baba didn't like ludger's design as he felt it was "too plain", hence ludger got the most costumes of any character in X2.
>>344032725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-7gQQ5fQrc
>>344016043
BAMCO: BRINGING THE FLAT
>it's coming to PC
>it has flat girls who aren't loli
>>344032913
at 15 seconds in ps4 already has choppiness
all they did was turn up contrast/sharpness
still looks exactly as garbage as before
>>344033002
>>it has flat girls who aren't loli
>>344033081
the colors are fucked in the ps3 version
but yeah, pc puts both of them to shame
Will this one be good for multiplayer?
I think graces was the last one that didn't have something get in the way of multiplayer.
>>344033335
Considering the camera probably not
>>344033002
>it has flat girls who aren't loli
>>344033159
She's too sexyshe is the traitor right?
The flat girl is so cute
>>344033490Maybe.
>>344033490
Better not be, Japan will have problems
>>344032147
60fps patch alleviates the clipshow mob movement. Imo the real issue with the game is the skill system which gimps combat much more then the camera does (I had like no exceeds by the end of zestiria while Graces gives them to you like candy), and flat characters that don't meaningfully develop. The character models are better than ever, the music is perhaps the greatest that tales has ever gotten, every sidequest in the game got voice acting this time around, and the dungeons could be done in the order of your choice. It had some honest good ideas, and if berseria just fixed the writing, skills, and camera it could be seriously fantastic.
>>344020794
And?
>>344019719
People hate her so they draw rape porn of her, and in an ironic twist she probably has more and better porn than most of the girls in the series
>>344033735
>flat characters that don't develop
>>344030183
Graces f combat is easily among the best in the series though. It's around Vesperia, Xillia 2, and Hearts R I'd say.
>>344033735
Sadly Berseria won't be getting anywhere near Zesty in the music department because Go Shiina isn't working on it
>>344034391
wut? it's just a worse version of Destiny R with some overpowered sidestep added
>>344010313
Laphicet 2cute
>>344033490
It might actually be Eizen ,betraying your friends after forming bonds with them over the adventure and the resulting guilt from it seems like it might be what turned him into a Dragon Hellion.
>>344030975
>the devs can't include anything important in them because theyre optional
On the contrary they can occasionally provide details for you if you're stuck in some parts. This has rarely happened in the series though, I do admit. On the other hand it's an efficient way of getting characterization and worldbuilding done in all sorts of manners, without its intrusion being immersion breaking. Being optional in this case is actually being pushed to its fullest for skit quality.
It's not mandatory but that's a silly way of looking at whether they're good or not.
>>344034508
Sakuraba should just forever keep doing souls games or something. His music is decent until he starts abusing his fucking cheap synthetic guitars and drums.
>>344034684
>Worse version of Destiny R
That still doesn't explain in the slightest why it's bad.
>overpowered sidestep
Anon please don't act like button mashers are supposed to be anything difficult or even largely well balanced at base.
>>344035375
because it's an auto-expressway mashfest where every character plays the same.
but casuals love to circlejerk it because the unlimited i-frame sidestep adds some illusion of "strategy"
>Anon please don't act like button mashers are supposed to be anything difficult or even largely well balanced at base.
ok gracesbabby try playing destiny 2 on higher difficulties
>>344010313
Starting Xilia for the first time, just met Alvin.
Is there really no option for Japanese audio? Milla's VA is so unbearably deadpan in her delivery and it's making it difficult for me to take anything the character says seriously.
>>344034508
>Berseria
>Not have the guy who saved Zestiria's soundtrack
I don't get Namco sometimes.
>>344035705
>graces
>Every character plays the same
Nigger did you even play the game?
>>344035705
>Typical graces combat is accessible, flashy, and looks like any other combo webm that gets posted, but feasible for normal play.
>TP-system babbies call it babby tier and proceed to post combo scenarios completely impossible for typical play
It's shit, mate.
>>344030825
3 basic attacks > base arte > arcane arte
That's it. Overlimit breaks this limit and let's you chain whatever artes you want. So Overlimit is how you would play any other newer game normally.
At least for now, TP is a fucking problem. Doing anything fancy requires all of your TP. And doing normal attacks restore 1 TP at a time. If you want to do 2 artes after your attacks, you need to do ~30 normal attacks first to gain enough TP. Sounds fun? It isn't.
>b-b-but just use Orange Gels!
3 gels after every fight? They aren't going to last forever. And besides, I'm going to use the gald for new weapons because they give you skills.
>>344036310
hack ur ps3 and you can get dual audio
>>344036708
ye graces is flashy, too bad the mechanics are shallow as fuck
just because you can't effectively use cancels and OTGs in your "typical play" doesn't mean everyone else is that incompetent
>>344035705
>because it's an auto-expressway mashfest
Every Tales game
>where every character plays the same
Malik and Sophie do not play the same.
>but casuals love to circlejerk it because the unlimited i-frame sidestep adds some illusion of "strategy"
This is just tasteless strawman. If anything, Graces combat in its entirety takes more skill than most Tales games. And before you go off misinterpreting what I mean, skill flooring isn't skill ceiling.
Are the rest of your posts going to consist of single sentence replies or are you actually going to make a case for why Graces combat is bad.
>>344036953
It's as shallow as any other tales game.
>>344035705
>every character plays the same.
Did you even play the game? You really think Asbel and Malik play in a same way? Or Pascal and Sophie?
>but casuals love to circlejerk it because the unlimited i-frame sidestep adds some illusion of "strategy"
I take Graces dodging anyday. Why? Because it feels better and is more fun.
>ok gracesbabby try playing destiny 2 on higher difficulties
>he plays games for the difficulty
I just ramp up the difficulty to whatever feels the best.
Games are forfun
>>344035705
>where every character plays the same
What
Will it be possible to lesbian it up in this game? I vaguely remember some sort of affection system in ToS. Or maybe that was SO3. I wanted to mash Lloyd and Sheena together like action figures.
>>344037237
Not him but with Graces there exist advanced techniques like doing certain tricks to make magic come out faster and using the back of your melee hitboxes to hit enemies from a completely opposite approach.
If you go back to Phantasia you're not finding anything that concisely possible.
>>344035375
>Anon points issues with Graces
>"A-all the games are easy, shit and shallow anyway!"
Every time.
>we'll be lucky to get Velvet/Laphicet /ss/ let alone with Magilou
>>344037374
Next game
>>344037460
>Anon points issues with vesperia
>Combo_Judith.webm
Every time
>>344010313
already looks better then the pile of shit that zest was fucking symph2 was better than that
>>344037460
If you really think that's the important part of the discussion you're a driveling baboon and should gas yourself.
>>344035705
>try to do half of that during a playtrough
>drain all TP
>mash basic attacks for 10 battles untill full TP
>try again
>repeat
Fun, right?
>>344037237
not even close. vesperia has a fuck-ton of techniques like manual/FRC cancel, semi-auto cancelling, spell cancelling (which exists in graces but is far less useful), character-specific tech like flynn's houtenku frame, yuri's tech step attack, judith's JCs, raven's traps, patty in general, etc.
graces doesn't have anything of the sort, its combat depth comes down to mashing buttons
>>344037673
have another
