Wait a minute that blood...
leon...???
BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH
>Play the pre-alpha demo
>"this is pretty good i should buy SS:EE"
>play it
>mfw
now i'm really aware about how they toned it down
>>344010414
BUHZINGA
>>344010643
explain
...nope never mind
>>344012243
Everything about it is completely butchered and dumbed down to the original.
The original expects you to look in the cloest to find the datapad and read it, the code in there, rather than written on the wall.
Original doesn't have weapon limit.
Original have sweet cyberpunk music.
Original despite having sprites for weapons and enemies has those sprites much better animated than the 3D animations you see here.
Original levels are more labyrinthian and not as awful as in this.
Everything about this "remake" reeks of CoD-generation dumbing down.
>>344010153
Is system shock 1 worth it or you difficult and dated and I should just focus on Ss2?
>>344012427
SS1 EE is hardly dated, all SS1 needed to not be dated was mouse look, guess what SS1 EE adds.
Unless you're one of those retards that considers graphics to be "dated", in which case die.
G's blood stains...
>>344012536
Calm your tits, friend.
>>344010153
I don't get it. What kind of retard is this made for? It's propably made for the retard that designed this puzzle.
It's literally nothing more than a way to inconvenience or slow down the player. For no reason. Might as well put a slow opening door or something there and some enemy to pressure you with time.
Instead they made the dumbest fucking descision.
It would be a fucking puzzle if you went to keypad, say, it opens an armory door, but there's no code. So you see the time schedule for all the armorers, find out there's 1-2 guys who have the code, you have to find out where they live in living quarters, figure out their schedules and where they went via the state of their room, say there's donuts on table from a named donut shop or an audio log how he went to his friends place for drinks, so you go to donut shop or his friends place, find the place he died and while he was bleeding out he wrote the armory code on the wall in hopes someone could use it to defeat shodan.
That would be more interesting and intuitive puzzle that you rarely see, rather than "wait a minute that card" type of shit.
>Nice jump
>>344012414
>Full game has more features than a demo
WHOA
Prove me wrong, faggots.
>>344012745
>features
Kill yourself you apologist shill.
Demo is supposed to be a level out of the full feature complete game, don't even try with that LE PRE ALPHA excuse because the devs clearly said it's not such, they said it's a demo of the full game and as such everyone should treat it as such.
PS. That pic must be you IRL considering how fucking retarded you are.
>>344012601
But he's totally right. If you can't enjoy the game because it "looks dated" then you should go die, and stay die.
It's not an attack on you personally, it's for everybody.
>>344012414
>Original despite having sprites for weapons and enemies has those sprites much better animated than the 3D animations you see here.
Fun fact: they were done by multi-award winning animator Maxime "maxofs2d" Lebled. He has a direct dripfeed of cash from Valve.
Also, he has his own name on google alerts. Hi max!
>>344010153I wandered around 7 minutes looking a guard log and trying to read the scrap paper.
>>344012830
>SSfags they they've got it bad
Fuck you, you should consider yourself lucky. You have no idea how badly a series can truly be dumbed-down.
>>344012895
Are you saying the 3D animations were made by this chucklefuck or that the original sprites were made by him?
Also you couldn't be more of a self-shill even if you tried Mr. Max.
>>344012895
I refuse to believe they couldn't find anyone better AND cheaper.
>>344012878
I didn't say it looked dated, did I?
>>344013034
>actually thinking that I don't like Fallout
Protip son, there's a very large chance that someone who likes SS1 also likes original Fallouts. I had to force myself to play 3 and NV and didn't even bother torrenting FO4.
Also NV is overrated trash since gameplay-wise it's still just FO3 shit but with prettier toppings.
>>344012414
>Original doesn't have weapon limit.
yes it has
>Original levels are more labyrinthian and not as awful as in this.
The demo is too short so we don't know.
>The original expects you to look in the cloest to find the datapad and read it, the code in there, rather than written on the wall.
It was made that way because they didn't program the data reader, but it's still there.
I agree on everything else, it looks dumbed down, they should at least keep the interface or work around it but not remove it. It's the thing that makes you feel like a cyborg.
Yeah a graphics upgrade is fine, the way the sparq burns the mutants is great, but it can't be the only excuse to remake the game and remove all the other cool aspects. I mean the visuals are dated by today standards but people still play fucking Doom today.
>>344012770
Loved Bioshock but it didn't have much replay value due to mechanics. B2 was alright and after playing Infinite I pretty much have never bought a full price AAA ever again.
There was no reason to regress further with Infinite. All it did was pure combat and it was the most repetitive, dull shit I've ever played.
I should probably try the prior shocksand og Deus ex.
>>344013115
Maximum Nostalgia faggot. I wonder if there's a single modern game you don't hate.
>>344013034
I'll take better gameplay and thousanda of good mods over overcomplicated drivel with shit gameplay which only pro which is supposedly supposed to make me ignore all the major cons is the fact it has more choices in dialogue.
>>344013113
Nobody said you did. It's just in case.
>>344013117
>yes it has
No it doesn't. It has inventory limit but as long as you can fit shit into your inventory you can have as many weapons as you like, certainly more than fucking TWO. Which is the limit here you cancerous piece of shit shill.
>The demo is too short so we don't know.
Entire first level, and it's in every single way dumbed down from the original.
>It was made that way because they didn't program the data reader, but it's still there.
I'll believe it when I see it. As it stands, there's a fuckton of dialogue and text missing. Shodan doesn't even address you personally anymore. All the lore that was in datapads is fucking gone entirely.
>>344013267
Plenty actually, but feel free to dump more le ebin le implications.
>>344013230
>after playing Infinite I pretty much have never bought a full price AAA ever again.
Are you me?
>I should probably try the prior shocks and og Deus ex.
If you like Bioshock, try SS2 first. If you want a mix of Deus Ex an Half-Life(with a point and click interface), play SS1. Actually, just play Deus Ex.
>>344012770
You mixed up SS1 and SS2.
>>344013037
The animations for this game. If I were Nightdive I would have told Max to fuck off because of how much of a PR liability he is.
Also, he isnt kidding about the Google alerts thing, he literally has a feed of everytime his name(s) or things related ot him is mentioned anywhere on any page Google indexes. That means he doesnt even have to go looking for people talking shit about him, he can fly right to the page and start defending himself and trying to get the discussion shut down (which he's been caught doing many, many times)
>>344012830
>That pic must be you IRL considering how fucking retarded you are
>>344013302
>better gameplay
>>344013428
Ha ha oh wow holy shit what a piece of egotistic trash.
How can you even have this much of a god complex? Fucking hell.
>>344013395
>weapon degradation
>terrible RPG shit everywhere
>ugly early 3d graphics
>monkey hit-boxes
SS2 is a broken mess.
>>344013508
>implies it has worse gameplay
>shows dialogue shit as if that matters
>What is combat?
>HAHA GUYS THE CLASSIC FALLOUTS ARE BETTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE CHOICES AND IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO ADD DIALOGUE IN A ISOMETRIC RPG WITH BARELY ANY VOICE ACTING BUT JUST IGNORE THAT REALLY SHIT TURN BASED ISOMETRIC COMBAT BECAUSE GAMEPLAY DOESN'T MATTER IN A VIDEO GAME
>AM I COOL YET NEO /V/ AM I HIPSTER ENOUGH FOR NOT CARING ABOUT FUN GAMEPLAY IN A VIDEO GAME?
>>344013570
Still the best survival horror I've ever played.
>>344013753
Calm down Todd.
>>344013346
>Shodan doesn't even address you personally anymore.
That voice message is copy-pasted from SS1. Kill yourself, fake fan faggot.
>>344013346
>Certainly more than fucking TWO. Which is the limit here you cancerous piece of shit shill
Maybe because there are only two weapons in the entire demo?
>>344010153
>451
>0451
My favorite number ever.
>>344013753
You bought Fallout 4 at full price, didn't you?
Man why you guys so angry all the time jeez
>>344012770
Bioshock 2 was more or less the pretentious shit
All of Sofia Lamb's little speeches were absolutely awful
>>344013869
They still shouldn't have programmed in SPECIFICALLY ONLY TWO WEAPON SLOTS, DON'T YOU THINK, RETARD?
>>344013928
Anger is our fuel. Anger is our soul.
>>344013753
Considering it consists of entirely of shooting bullet sponges while backpedaling, yes, it is worse than the originals. But hey, at least they finally got around that disgusting half second delay for each manual shot.
>>344012770
>older=better
/v/ is truly hipsterland
>>344012536
How long is the game?
>>344010153
It's you again, "oldfag". Go back to SS1 dos, it's waiting for you.
>>344014170
About 15 hours I'd say, at least my Steam says 17h but I spent one or two of that AFK.
>>344014034
Yeah I backed it.
I also like both SS1 and 2, think all Bioshock is shit. Levine a hack that got lucky with SS2.
Also think NV is better than 3, STALKER is a better Fallout than 4, Bethesda don't make RPGs, they make self insert sandboxes, Trump is a less malevolent evil than Hilldog but the US is still fucked, riots soon for the UK and SJW shit is a cyclical fad, the mid 90s sucked because of it.
PC Masturrace is bullshit, brand loyalty is for chumps.
Go fuck yourselves.
>>344010153
did the dying person use a fucking paintbrush with his blood to paint those numbers on the wall?
>>344014314
what
>>344013854
Fallout 4 still has better gameplay.
>>344013926
Bought Fallout 4 Pip boy edition, collectors edition artbook, collectors edition strategy guide, and the season pass because I like the fact Bethesda seems to be one of the only companies delivering massive open world's with fun content. While the choices and RPG elements are fun and all the drift away from that isn't a bad thing.
If Fallout 5 quest wise was complete linear Ala borderlands but retained the much improved gameplay from 4 and improved sandbox construction systems aswell as a World 10x as massive with thousands of locations, on an updated version of the current engine to retain maximum modability I'd call that an improvement.
>>344014373
No, devs put it there cause the demo doesn't have audiologs.
>>344014097
Easily fixed with a realistic damage mod pleb.
>>344012770
>pretentious dudebro
>pretentious
>dudebro
Take a moment and really think about what you've written there. Google 'pretentious' if you have to and maybe refresh yourself on the meaning of 'dudebro' too.But yeah, Infinite is shit.
>>344013034
Even the interface pisses me off. F1 and F2 had such a climatic, comfy ui, 4, 3 and by association NV have just lazy as fuck neon green lines. It's little things like that give heart to the game but people not even mention it when discussing how shit or not shit games are.
>>344010153
Wow, system shock really is amazing. /v/ was right all along.
>>344014000
it was better than one and infinite, and that is all that counts.
>>344014431
>Bought Fallout 4 Pip boy edition, collectors edition artbook, collectors edition strategy guide, and the season pass because I like the fact Bethesda seems to be one of the only companies delivering massive open world's with fun content. While the choices and RPG elements are fun and all the drift away from that isn't a bad thing.
This is incredible, finally this thread is getting good
>>344014507
Too bad none of the gameplay mods go in-depth enough to turn any Bethesda game into something engaging. And then there's the AI.
>>344014431
>I like the fact Bethesda seems to be one of the only companies delivering massive open world's with fun content
>>344012830
be careful so you don't cut anyone with that edge of yours
>>344012619
>What kind of retard is this made for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3pQ0oO_cDE
Don't worry, everybody on the higher planes of the internet will say that the reboot is not only faithful to the original, but will also say that it surpasses it and Night Dive Studio should continue with rebooting the second System Shock. Archaic grandpas like you and OP will be left in the dust because none of you matter anymore, but hey at least you can still play the original System Shock games, which are not at all affected by the reboot, right?
>>344014641
AI is also easily fixed with mods aswell if you prefer a different experience from them but since the AI is just fine whatever mate but if you want a mod that makes them much more aggressive they have that.
>>344014721
Yeah, you should just kill yourself, irrelevant mad fucker. Your time is long gone.
>>344014521
1 and 2 were isometric turn-based RPGs
>>344014431
we know it's you todd
>>344012619
It's not made for you, it's made for the current generation of gamers and game reviewers so they can fully enjoy it for themselves. If you don't like it then fuck off and play the old versi- oh wait I forgot you're just another bandwagoning shitposter who pretends to "get mad" at every new thing coming out these days while going on tirades posing as an "old fan of the classics". Everyone that matters can see right through your act and quite frankly it's not as if you're the first to pioneer that old song and dance.
>>344015083
Kill yourself Mr. Max
>>344015185
No, kill yourself, shitposting king. Nobody cares what you think.
>>344014721
Are we made of bacon strips and cheese ?
>>344013508
Congratulations you were baited by le ebin le leddit memester baiter man.
>>344013753
You are so fucking mad you probably have heart disease.
HE
>>344015580
What are you doing?
>>344015580
nice thumbnail
I will never not be amazed by how garbage Unity games run and look
>>344012770
Bioshock 2 is awful anon
>>344015884
>Bioshock 2 is awful
>>344015976
I..uh..yeah? It's a good way to detect when someone showed up to /v/ late since the game was universally hated here.
>>344014519
The gameplay is dudebro garbage and the story is pretentious bullshit.
>>344015884
>>344014000
Gameplay is a huge improvement over Bioshock and while the story is pants on head retarded, it's a great mostly character driven narrative. Bioshock's moral choice system is dogshit, while Bioshock 2's endings actually make you reflect on your actions. You may not give a shit about the little sister, but did you really want your daughter to become a murderous lunatic because she sees you as a rolemodel? Meanwhile Bioshock was just "an objectivist society would be totally shit, guise". Yeah, who would have guessed?
>>344014107
>older = worse
No, better is better, no matter the age.
>>344012770
I'm a hipster for liking system shock 2, Fuck off, i played system shock when it came out what makes that fucking hipster?
Bioshock 2's storyline was fucking dirt tier. Fucking kids these days,
fuck sake.
>>344016256
>universally hated here.
I believe it is you sir, whom are suffering from delusions.
/v/ loves it since Levine is butthurt over it and it has dad feels and a daughterfu.
>>344014519
>pretentious dudebro
yes, those guys who play something other than Madden that has the same intellectual challenge, and then pretend to be "so geeky".
They are the male equivalent of a girl biting a controller.
>>344016256
>Le "Hello newfriend :^)" meme
fucking kill yourself
>>344016474
SS2 is objectively worse than SS1. Especially with mouse look mod. SS1 just works. SS2 is a broken mess with some great ideas that don't work 50% of the time. The atmosphere is god tier, but weapon degradation and the skill system is the most frustrating thing I've ever seen in a video game. It's artificial difficulty.
>>344010153
I actually saw some guy on youtube who completely missed it. He looked around for like a minute or two before he saw the blood and realized he was retarded.
>>344016474
Age =/= wisdom.
Reducing someone to their age by calling them kid is a very childish thing to do.
>>344012830
>Demo is supposed to be a level out of the full feature complete game
Does it even have cyberspace in it?
>>344016256
how about no, with hindsight Bioshock 2 is pretty fucking good
because infinite came out and showed us what shit gameplay and story REALLY are
A great fucking villain.
I've never wanted to kill a final boss more than I did with he.
>>344016861
Bioshock 2 plays like the writer was butthurt over being fucked over in a divorce.
>ITT: Shitposters mucking things up just to have an excuse to make others wallow through their shit
Let me ask you guys honestly, did any of you in this thread right now even play System Shock 1? Did you also play the demo for the reboot? Because if you answered yes to both of these questions then you're not actually in this thread to begin with, you'd be too glad that the reboot is being made and that it's a faithful reimagining of the Shock series' original entry to actually waste precious time having to dodge obvious bait here. If you said no to either of them or answered dishonetly then shut the fuck up, you have no right at all to just spit slanderous vile like this whatsoever at all.
It's like those Nier Automata threads from a few days ago where people were just shitposting to no end because they heard a specific localization team was working on it and didn't actually care about the actual game or the actual quality thereof. Just fuck off already if you're one of those kinds of people and let us speak about the reboot truthfully.
>>344016861
andrew ryan was a man who had a dream about people standing up on their own strength
sofia lamb was a fucking arrogant cunt who just wanted to rule everything with a pseudo-cult following
you are 100% right, throughout the whole game, it was interesting that I realized that I never wanted to hunt down andrew ryan with the same ferocity that I did sofia; I wanted to kill her SO BAD, but with andrew ryan, you just wanted to stop him because his idea clearly didn't pan out and he needed to let it go, but couldn't
>>344016256
Then explain why Minervas Den is praised by so many as the single best DLC in every add-on discussion threads.
>>344016851
retconned
now it's an LED puzzle
>>344012770
If you're talking about gameplay, then sure, you're right.
>>344010153
BaZiNGa
>>344017117
>Wants to post a serious statement and a query
>Steven Universe
lol didn't read
>>344017117
Reminder that Pearl is shit
>>344012770
bioshock 1 then 2 easily best on this list
>>344012414
dumbing down is my worst fear about this remake
why are modern games built for idiots?
>>344017343
>shitposting
>''''''''''''serious'''''''''''''
Don't fall for his bait retard
>>344017402
>bioshock is better than ss1 or 2
:^)
>>344016417
right, but in categories such as graphics and sound design games are only getting better
>>344012414
goddamn, here I was hoping it would be good. why does every remake have to be dumbed down shit?
unity is such a crap engine
it almost tries to give you the shittiest framerate possible and make your mouselook floaty
>>344010153
Prey did the same retarded thing, you'd see a keyboard and have to go into your vision mode to see the code and it was only a few metres away. So pointless.
>>344012414
>Original doesn't have weapon limit.
Jezus christ of all the things they could've done they considered this an improvement? man fuck those cunts so hard
>>344012770
SS1>SS2>Bioshock>BS2>BSI
it goes in order, actually.
First 3 are great, last 2 are shit.
>>344017602
Bioshock 2 is underrated. Great combat and dad feels. Story mostly sucks, but the ending makes more than up for it. Go play it again when the collection comes out.
>>344014431
>>344013753
>>344013302
>>344017443
because idiots have money
>>344017687
No need to play it again, I already know it sucks.
>>344017602
It's sad to see this series get worse with every iteration.
>>344017687
Story might be bad, but the characters where well written as fuck.
>>344014097
>shooting bullet sponges while backpedaling
how about putting point in weapon skills and update it to 1.5 with the survival patch? scrap that shit, we doesnt even need 1.5. Just bring some drugs and jets, which is as good as free thanks to crafting.
original fallout combat suck ass. it's rng on top of rng they said fuck it and make you op at 100% skill. And that's in the era of xcom, jagged alliance, wizadry, fftactic...
>>344014431
>trying this hard
>>344012770
Absolutely accurate
>>344013854
What kind of shitty fucking font is that? There are spaces inside the words, jesus christ
>>344017807
That's exactly what I mean. Lamb trying to somehow transfer the minds of everyone into Elinor is dumb as fuck, but that's only a excuse to setup the actual drama that unfolds between the characters.
>>344014434
that'd require hiring voice actors HA
id have more respek if they just jammed in the original audiologs
the least they can do now is have people in their immediate vicinity do the audiolog voices
>>344015720
hey now the graphics look good
im just worried about everything else
>>344018342
that's comic sans and arial
>>344013034
HOL UP
did anyone here actually play SS1 or is this the thread for the shitposters and falseflaggers?
>>344015083
You're a real hard-boiled detective aren't you, anon? You saw right through him.
>mfw i didnt notice the blood
>mfw i knew the code anyways
>>344015257
Fairly sure it's due to plastination that he looks so bacon-like
>>344019905
it's for all three people to enjoy and some actually fit all three descriptions
>>344016746
I've been playing videogames since your mom was wiping shit from your virgin cheeks
>>344012414
There's a weapon limit because the demo only has 2 weapons
I got stuck at that part for 10 minutes because I was expecting to find a digipad with the code instead of something so dumb and thrown at your face
the elevator circuit was fucking retarded too
the "puzzles" are incredibly unintuitive
You morons, this code isn't even considered a fucking puzzle. It serves only as a tutorial to teach the player that they need to be observant of the environment in order to progress and to teach players the input mechanics of the keypad.
>>344021237
Sounds like you're just fucken stupid.
>>344021237
the circuit was the same in the original
>>344021395
i rememer spending like and hour maybe trying to solve that 5 wire one and i couldnt do it so i was like FUCK IT and used the hack tool (or whatever it's called)
i had actually stockpiled all the ones i found so it wasnt a big deal but i really wanted to pat myself on the back for solving a difficult puzzle the hard way
baw-well
>>344021594
You realize that you can just jump over the radiative trench to reach the beta quadrant, right? But yeah, I never understood the rules to these fucking wire puzzles.
>>344014097
>ut hey, at least they finally got around that disgusting half second delay for each manual shot.
Fucking Jesus Christ this was so stupid.
>>344017443
because most people are idiots
>>344016861
I like Bioshock 2 a lot, maybe more than 1, but Lamb is in all ways a shittier antagonist than Ryan was. There's more to being a good villain than being hateable, and having her pop up over your radio to call you a shithead every three seconds is the Borderlands approach to writing.
Ryan was a good villain because as the game progressed you were exposed to more and more audio diaries that showed different levels to his growing paranoia and near insanity, culminating in an entire level filled with people that he betrayed and had killed in brutal fashion, before you confront him in the flesh. On top of this he kind of continues to be an antagonist even in death since you'll still learn more about him through more diaries. Sofia Lamb to me just felt like the :^) emoji personified, she just wouldn't shut up and kept acting like a smug cunt. She didn't feel like a villain, she felt like a sociology teacher with too high an opinion of herself.
>>344017443
idiots have lots of disposable income
you'd be a bloody fool for letting them keep it
>>344013753
I actually found Fallout 1's combat pretty fun and I'm not usually into turn-based stuff. There are some games like Planescape: Torment where the gameplay is genuinely shit and you can make a case for that, but with Fallout we've traded decent gameplay and loads of options for mediocre FPS mechanics and no options.
>>344012770
>Bioshock 2 is good meme
lmao kys
>>344013345
But just so we're clear, ss1 looks dated as fuck
UU2 > UU1 > SS1 > Arx Fatalis
What's your Underworld rankings?
Ths thread is more proof that /v/ is filled with nostalgia blinded contrarian fucks
>>344022617
I hope Underworld Ascendant is good.
>>344013034
The last -shock game was a bad Serious Sam clone, at least bethesda has the decency to pretend to care
>>344019905
The latter two. The people who actually play SS1 are still playing it in anticipation of the reboot by Night Dive Studios.
