47 days until the GOTYEY is released.
inb4 they casualize it even harder
>>343992338
They won't. My dad works at Nintendo.
Honestly doesn't look that good.
>>343992243
That's not FF XV
>>343993723
>this 10 year broken mess
>GOTY of any year
lmao
Looking at the gameplay it has all the same bad design choices the last one had. Dunno why you'd be remotely hyped. Besides, we all know what's going to be the nonlinear FPS GOAT this year.
It's GOTYAY you sweet summer child
>I really meant to replay dude sex to get myself hyped
>played everything but
distracted again by the sexy DOOMGuy
>>343993991
>No semblance of taste whatsoever
>>343994532
Would you mind listing some of those bad design choices?
Damn, already? This year is going fast.
I hope it's better than HR, though the lack of best grill Malik is disappointing.
>>343994796
Unbalanced XP system and awful cinematic melee are among the major complaints.
>>343994973
>No Malik
Have you got a single fact to back that up?
>>343993723
lol their E3 presentations were laughably bad
>>343993723
>just getting into the Final Fantasy series
>beat 1 and 2 a week ago, on 3 now
>excited for FFXV
>no ps4
please come out on pc
>>343994973
CANONICALLY DEADoh and also Sarrif got those fruitflies out of his throat and thus sounds totally different now
>>343995001
I never noticed anythinf wrong with the xp system and the cinematic cutscenes are an annoyance, nothing else.
>>343992243
There were a total of 3 augs in Deus Ex.
Obviously there was a civil war and the banning of AUGs at some point.
>>343994772
Show me how the game looks good.
I'll wait.
Deus Ex will never be truly great again until they make it a PC exclusive (but then nobody would buy it)
>>343995076
The fact that the vast majority of players are total shit, making her essentially canonically dead. See >>343995179
>>343995209
The XP system rewards a particular playstyle, which is counter to the philosophy of Deus Ex. In particular non-violence and hacking reward XP, so you're basically encouraged to play a particular path (or backtrack and take all paths) to maximise XP rewards rather than commit to an approach.
>>343995334
So the devs have just assumed everyone was a casual shitter and let her die? Fuck this gay earth
>>343995109
Sounds like a YOU problem to me Pcuck
>>343992243
I'll wait for the GOTY edition to fix all the bugs like the first one before buying.
>>343995449
kinda like XCOM where the majority of people got their asses handed to them thus in the sequel instead of invading the oceans or taking the war to the alium homeworld, we got our shit fucked. Thanks casuals.
>>343995449
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that she died in most cases but I can't find any source of that statement.
HR was pretty shitty desu. Shitty gameplay, shitty writing, shitty aesthetic and just a shitty fagggy SJ feel instead of the excellent dark cyberpunk 1984 future world.
It did a few things right, sometime I was like "okay that didn't suck dick" and it was easily one of the best AAA games of its shitty time but it's still pretty bad overall and compared to the original.
The fact that they're making HR 2 is a red flag for me. I'd feel much better if they had the guts to do something with the series but I think they just want more money from HR fans and not really make something that live up to Dues Ex. And even if they had the intention, I doubt they have what it takes to deliver something.
I think it will be decent game with a good atmosphere but it will fall short of any Dues Ex fan expectations.
>>343994973
>>343995179
She was boring and offered virtually little or nothing to the plot or story line.
The fucking AI helicopter in Deus Ex: Invisible War had more personality.
>>343995179
>french text
Not canon
she alive
>>343993406
Gameplay vids say otherwise.
>Ammo is listed twice.
>>343992243
That's what we said about the first sequel to a Deus Ex game when it was coming. Look how wrong we were.I honestly don't think IW is a bad game on its own merit, but it's a terrible sequel to DE.
>>343995426
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you got more xp for stealthy infiltration/non lethal in DE1 too
>>343995109
It'll come at some point, XV wasn't exacatly cheap for them to make.
>>343995217
Naah scum like you doesn't deserve to play this masterpiece. Don't buy it when it releases. I am not going to be missing out on anything.
>>343995581
honestly without the piss filter though everything looked awful, flat and washed out because they were designed with that look in mind
Piss on...
>>343995763
I wonder who you are..
>>343995640
How the fuck could it have had a chance to be as good as one of the best games to ever be released?
IW had a decent story, interesting characters and plot, good voice acting and NG Resonance.
Solid 7.5 to 8
>>343995640
It was a better successor to the original than Human Revolution. At least it had the balls to be different.
>>343995883
piss off
will it have denuvo?
>>343995883
I got a copy of the original edition and it looks and plays a million times better.
Just the feel and look of it.
The piss filter off makes it look like VTMB or Deus Ex copy.
Man, I couldn't follow the story in Human Revolution at all but the gameplay was fun as shit.
>>343995949
Kill yourself
>>343995941
>How the fuck could it have had a chance to be as good as one of the best games to ever be released?
It was made by the same people, what reason did we have to believe that it would make EVERY ending choice in DE canon at the same time in a really retarded way?
>>343995949
The real problem, ignoring everything connected to DE, is that honestly your choices don't matter in Invisible War.
>>343995646
You usually just got points for completing goals or finding areas, though the system was not perfect it wasn't quite as egregious as merciful soul/ghost bonuses.
>>343996126
Dosn't matter not even the creators of Mankind divided give a fuck about what happend in HR
>>343995646
Yup.
>>343995426
and you're a fag
Posting the GOAT soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyG6YMLEWus
>>343995426
The counter argument would be that you really don't need all that XP to begin with. Between praxis kits generously spread throughout the game and other sources of XP you can still unlock every useful implant by killing everything and skipping hacking. I am saying that its not necessary to maximize XP rewards in this game, you don't get an edge.
>>343996435
>Yup.
You could typically murder everybody and get the same SP faggot. The only difference is that Carter is a cunt about it which doesn't matter for long.
>>343996491
"If you want to make enemies try to change something."
"It is a time of great invocation."
Dat Icarus intro.
>>343996491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJ98o1IhT8
Shit was SO cash.
>>343996568
That seems like another design flaw of the game. You can straight up get everything without really trying, there are no real decisions about shit to get. Deus Ex isn't much better though, most of the augs choices are a toss up between godmode and dogshit.
>Denuvo
Nope.
Most of the game that have that as their DRM, on top of the usual DRM, turned out to be quite shitty.
>>343996491
BEST SONG COMING THROUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cIbVP0W0y8
The Chosen One has huge shoulders.
>>343996491juice exe 1 had a better ost
>>343992243
Meh
>>343996184
The only choices in Deus Ex are when to kill certain NPCs, and the same "select from three ending animations" thing that pissed people off about Human Revolution. The problem with Human Revolution is that it distills the plot of Deus Ex down to >muh transhumanism. That ball got rolling in Invisible War, but at least Invisible War had something to say on the subject.
I sort of suspect that people who hate Invisible War but love Human Revolution played Deus Ex as children and have some vague recollection that it had something to do with nanites and secret societies and supercomputers, and hey, Human Revolution ticks all those boxes and has competent gameplay.
>>343992243
>probably going into bundles for the new GPUs
Yesssss
>>343997023
goosebumps
>>343994796
I've been playing HR recently so I'll indulge you:
- Third person "modes" are bad: They're nonsensical. Jarring. Why should I get a view of Jensen's back when I'm climbing a latter? Why should I see him when I use the Icarus? This combined with how Jensen never emotes outside of dialogue with important NPCs gives the feeling that you're this awkward observer. You flip flop from being Adam Jensen: brooding anti-hero in a dialogue tree to being Jensen: unflinching cyborg when you're walking around hugging cover and listening to less-important NPCs talk "at" you, in the same way Gordon Freeman is talked "at". There's a solid line between GAMEPLAY and ROLEPLAYING and the 3rd person shit emphasizes the problem. One thing that stuck out to me as especially poor was when I visited Jensen's apartment for the first time and saw all the gears and schematics on his desk. I wondered, 'What is all this? What're you crafting, Jensen?' Game gives no response. Not even a voice line from Adam going "ah, I really wish I had more time to work on this... clock." I remember, 'Oh. Right. I'm not Jensen, I'm a real life person behind a keyboard playing as Jensen.
You could make an arguement that JC Denton basically does this too but his character is a sort of goofy, detached, blase sort of guy, so his indifference when it comes to nameless NPCs is completely called for. Plus the game sticks you in first person for longer so you get into the character better. Denton can even be albino or Black. Dunno why that's absent from HR.
kof isn't that great, OP.
let's not get carried away here.
>>343997318
Exactly.
"They cannot stop us; they cannot stop the future."
>>343997360
- Takedown kills: Why. They feel clunky, they don't register as fast you want them to. Enemies won't shoot you while you're doing them, totally killing the immersion. There's no reason why you would want to kill someone over knocking someone out since they take the same amount of time, so any sort of morality element is thrown away. All the animations are pointlessly flashy. They rip control from you for the sake of looking BADASS. They're also on a timer which feels really weird.
- Hacking minigame is bad: On most layouts it's mindnumbingly easy, on the hard ones all you have to have is a little luck. Or you pop all the little softwares. The game encourages you to sit through these because they always give you XP and credit rewards vs alternatives (using a auto-hack tool or finding the code yourself)
- Lack of vertically designed levels: Levels are not really designed with verticality in mind. When they do account for it, the player is deterred due to the harsh base fall damage. Even when you upgrade your jump you can't take chances with it. When you get the Icarus, the player is still a little deterred because of how sluggish and uncontrollable it is. It feels bad to use. I think for MD the Icarus is a baseline ability, so that's a step in the right direction. A tiny step.
- The writing is sort of in-your-face with its themes. The world feels sort of corny in that way, which clashes with the realistic/gritty aspects.
- NO SHELLEN????
>>343997183
agreed. except for that annoying HK track.
You haven't played it so it can't be goty
>>343997095
Should I be investing in Denuvo?
It doesn't look to be going anywhere, anytime soon. If anything, it's going to be even more sophisticated.
Publishers want to protect their investments.
>>343997023
AADDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
is stealth camo even possible?
>>343997673
Nope.
Why would you want to do that?
/r/ing elias toufexis crazy video
>>343995001
what's wrong with melee takedowns exactly? you became an unstoppable rape machine in the first after you got the TDS. don't see anyone whining about that.
>>343998020
Read. >>343997519
>>343995426
well, the combat is already vastly improved over the first, so not sure why you want to be rewarded for "ebic headshots" in the first place. you're actually upset they reward you for being stealthy. wow.
>>343997909
As Denuvo proves to publishers that it works and can delay the pirates longer and longer; they're going to start charging more and more for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2WIFTm7n4
>>343998146
I don't want to be rewarded for kills at all.
>>343998080
what does amount of time have to do with morality?
also, I preferred hacking minigame to none at all. hacking in the first was braindead and I never even felt a need to scrounge up supplies or use those worms you find since there was never a need. yeah, it wasn't deep, but then what game has good hacking? fucking none. it was non-offensive at worst.
HR wasn't perfect, but neither is the first one. I'd say they're about equal.
>>343998423
aren't you only rewarded for non-lethal?
>>343995179
>that grimace
>>343998559
Greater rewards for non-lethal knockouts with anything.
>>343998474
>what does amount of time have to do with morality?
If the game was designed in a way that melee did not make you invincible, and then made it so that killing was very very fast, but then choking someone out took a little bit of time, then suddenly you would have an interesting dynamic where you have to consider if you should take the time to non-lethally subdue someone, or do the pragmatic thing of outright killing them. That introduces a morality element and adds a layer of role-playing. Simply changing how long it takes to knock-out someone or kill someone.
>I preferred hacking minigame to none at all
>but then what game has good hacking? fucking none.
Do you hear yourself here? If it can't be done right, then it should be cut out. Same reason you don't have to use the restroom as Jensen. So they either make the minigame interesting and varied, or they rehash it, boring, boring, boring. By the way, you know what series has a good hacking minigame? Sly Cooper.
>>343995572
>NEVER EVER
>>343999026
>If the game was designed in a way that melee did not make you invincible, and then made it so that killing was very very fast, but then choking someone out took a little bit of time, then suddenly you would have an interesting dynamic where you have to consider if you should take the time to non-lethally subdue someone, or do the pragmatic thing of outright killing them. That introduces a morality element and adds a layer of role-playing. Simply changing how long it takes to knock-out someone or kill someone.
WHY IS THIS SO SIMPLE YET DEVS DIDN'T IMPLEMENT IT?
>>343998272
You do realize that it doesn't do shit, right?
It's been proven, time and time again, that piracy does not diminish the sales of games.
In fact, games with Denuvo have sold notably less than they would have had they not had such a retarded DRM piled on top of the usual stuff.
I mean, look at Just Cause 3, that Tomb Raider reboot sequel and the new Mirror's Edge game. All three sold way less on PC than their predecessors which didn't have that kind of DRM.
>>343999253
The original Deus Ex devs knew that, but it seems Eidos forgot their philosophies. This is why people on /v/ agree that Dishonored was a better sucessor to Deus Ex than Human Revolution, despite being too easy, and despite having the man who spearheaded Invisible War be a lead designer.
Let's take a moment to reflect that Eidos Montreal made Thief (2014).
>>343995941
>decent story
>one of the main antagonists is literally named "chad"
I beg to differ.
>>343995212
There were shitloads of (mech) AUGs in Deus Ex.
Did you forget the MJ12 Commandos?
Of course there still weren't as many civilian ones as HR would require but thar is because the original was a conspiracy thriller and HR is a scifi action game.
So stealth is my favorite video game genre, but I have never played any of the deus ex games cause i'm so put off by how ugly they look, like the artstyle and the colours and everything
There are so many absolutely beautiful looking games out there, the majority off high profile realeses look so good and pretty, how can they fuck up the visual element so hard?
>got invisible war from Steam
>it's literally impossible to play because of the black screen bug that NOBODY solved in a fucking DECADE of records
Why
I just want to play the whole fucking saga
I even played The Fall at this point
I really need something new before Mankind Divided
>>344000550
You could play it the way it was meant to be-- on console!
>>343996491
I love the ambient music in this game so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAljZX-9HMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42xHkfucwS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQPydQnaoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwS056zXmLk
>Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
>GOTY
>Implying
I have the game pre-ordered, but there's no change it will be better than both Hitman 6 and Dishonored 2. It'll get third place at best, or maybe second if it gets really lucky.
>>344000863
No I can't
Nobody owns an original Xbox
>>343995640
Invisible War is 100% a bad game on its own. The fact that it's a Deus Ex sequel only makes it all the more baffling.
>>343995614
It's literally the best game I can name made in the last decade.
>>343996067
yes it will
Should i replay HR and make a save file with all my choices?
Mankind Divided WILL check for a HR save file before starting a new game, right?
>>344002201
No.
>>344002201
Why would you expect choices to carry over?
>>343997158
damn that's chill
>>344002201
No thanks, this isn't The Witcher
>>343993723
>Not using the superior FFXV
>>344003054
If you're not being ironic, here it goes.
Because it's a direct sequel where you're playing the same main character, in the same setting, during events that happen just after HR, so it makes fucking SENSE that all the shit you did in the last game has some kind of impact here.
>>343995614
>shitty this
>shitty that
Could you at least post some examples or logical points instead of just saying "shit, shit, shit"?
>>344003431
But those choices are meaningless and would only be a nuisance to integrate. It's not like it's Mass Effect.
>>344002147
You can't name many games, then.
>>343995179
She didn't fly so good
>>343994532
what's that going to be
>>343995001
>>343998020
There's literally nothing wrong with melee takedowns.
>>343992243
It looks as shitty and casual than the previous one. I bet OP want to play Watch Dogs 2 as well.
I have no interest in this franchise, never played it, get instantly annoyed when I see anything about it, and hate anyone who likes it.
Thought you cucks should know
>>343995109
It will come to PC but maybe in a few years.
But I'll do the same as you and wait anyway, it just seems to runs like shit on consoles.
>>343998395
why did they replace sarif's VA
>>343997023
best game trailer there is
>>344002147
>year when game devs cry about piracy killing the industry
>HR is announced
>everyone is pessimistic because of Invisible War
>devs listen to comments
>game eventually leaks
>game is actually better than expected
>many players buy a copy
>piracy made HR successful
HR had a crazy ride.
>>344005395
>"I win" buttons with a jarring cutscene.
>good
>>344005830
They had a falling out between them. The voice actor seems to be a bit of a crazy conspiracy nut too, which made him difficult to work with.
>>343995179
>oh and also Sarrif got those fruitflies out of his throat and thus sounds totally different now
>tfw stephen made a facebook post about reddit bullying him about being a conspiracy nutter
He also doesn't want to do the next DE game because he doesn't believe in transhumanism for realsies and believes DE promotes it.
Am i the only one that geniuinely loved the yellow filter, and that wantes it in ME?
I hope that mods will allow.us to restore it in ME
>>344006808
as long as sweetfx works I don't doubt it. I was able to restore it in Director's cut.
>>344006160
how is it "jarring"?
do you get motion sickness while walking too?
how the fuck else would you do a cover system in first person?
now that's disorienting.
>>344006808
I did too, I have no idea what the aversion of it was.
Pink and black should be much better in the new one though.
>>344006808
I'm just glad there are daytime missions now.
hated that in the first. this isn't thief.
>>343995179
>literally fabricating lies
I want Illuminati to leave.
>>344005147
>>343993406
My dad is Hulk Hogan and he says your dad is a faget.
>>343992338
I'm good friends with a dev for it.
Not saying it's going to be good but from what I've seen it's not going to be shit either. Fact is, it looks really good. Even if said friend is talking my ear off about it.
>>343992338
caualize it how? all they did was make the combat better. series was never pure stealth anyhow. not seeing the issue. they made violence more viable.
>>344007831
Mmmmm
up
>>344007831
Both MD and DH2 look so good.
However pre-ordering is for losers and I'll wait til word gets out if they're shit or not.
>>344000539
Because they know it doesn't matter that much.
>>344006808
>Mankind Divided
>mods
>>344000539
Because they took a risk with DE:HR and didn't want to inflate the budget. With DE:MD they have a MUCH better looking game. If you don't like the artstyle that isn't gonna change much for you, tho.
>>344011225
Wise man. Feeding the preorder Jew is the worst one can do
>>343992243
Doesn't this game have fucked up pacing because SE tried to make it an episodic release and changed their minds?
>>344011716
What?
>>343995179
I love Stephen Seller, but I can understand why he would want to stop doing Deus Ex.
He gets humiliated by the gaming press and gets made to look like an idiot on purpose.
>>343992243
Looks rather shit with all that shoehorned, artifically blown out of proportion social conflict. Reeks of SJW and Tumblr shit.
Also
>no Malik
>Denuvo
I loved Deus Ex and Human Revolution, but I couldn't care less about this somehow.
>>344012065
I'm sorry anon but the buzzwords are clouding your vision
>>344011716
When going through the shitty phase when SE wanted to "Augment your Pre-order", the company was trying different methods of delivery for the game. This was during the time they were chopping up Hitman to make it episodic so you would purchase each piece for $10-15 or buying a season pass for $50. The game was structured to be episodic but they changed their minds. Apparently the game is going to be much shorter than anticipated because of this.
>>344012228
>I will just call everything I don't understand "buzzwords"
Is this how low this board has sunk already?
>>344012065
>>Denuvo
Real talk, how is this a deal-breaker?
Just played HR for the first time this year.
It was a flawed game, but it was the game that made me feel the most fun and alive since I played Dark Souls last year.
>>344003350
They're the same thing, anon.
what location do you guys think will the second hub be in? i'm guessing it's going to be london
>>344012262
I get the episodic format for Hitman but I don't see how it would work for DX. Is there a source for that?
>>344011716
>>344012262
Source? Never heard anything like this, and I thought the "Augment your Pre-order" nonsense would just unlock a bunch of useless crap.
>>343992243
>No Malik
>No Pritchard
why
>>344015078
>Adam Jensen is propelled by sheer force of anger alone
>>344011893
What happened?
>>344015078
is this from the new comic?
>>344015078
No. This one.
http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution_(comics)
Takes place during the events of Human Revolution.
No idea if it's canon or not though.
>>344016470
Meant for
>>344016136
Witcher 3 on suicide watch
>>344016470
>that dialogue
>>344015961
When they were sending out feelers for a Deus Ex movie, they publicized his fruit flies video in a few gaming journalism outlets as soon as he expressed interest in playing Sarif.
Hollywood is a dirty place, and he's had his problems with it.
>>344016470
i'm pretty sure all Deus ex media is canon, though Deus ex Go may possibly be not canon.
>>344006808
I didn't like it, but when they released thr Director's Cut and made no effort to conceal the fact that the artstyle had been done with the piss filter in mind, the colors just felt washed out as fuck and really ugly.
Mankind Divided would take the visual design cake if it wasn't for that god awful GUI.
>>343995640
Invisible War is still unironically better than HR. At least it tried with the story
Story and themes in each game
Deus Ex
>governance and ideology
>nature of power
>liberty/security
Invisible War
>deals with themes like religious extremism at a controversial time
HR
>some totally made up social issue that isn't really connected to anything in the real world
Cowardly and boring.
>>344006787
nah
he already mentioned it in his facebook
he said he loved the role but didn't accept the offer because they only offered him 400 dollarydoos
>>344007831
>shooter
>>344017050
>Invisible War is still unironically better than HR.
No.
>>343995596
they need a reason to set you back to ballistic and kevlar
but they have no good writer and want to reuse bradford.
all games would never have sequel because the majority of players never finish the singleplayer part.
>>344016646
What's wrong with that vid?
>still no key from GMG
i'm so fucking ready
>>344018093
I don't think i'll ever understand the pure retardation of people who preorder games.
There's absolutely no reason to pay the money so early, when you don't even know if it's going to be good, or if the port is going to be garbage.
>>344015961
He made a parody video about illuminati fruit flies, people found it funny then it got viral.
It suddenly got all butthurt over it and refused to take the job, he also complained they offered to little money for a cameo role.
>>343992243
Can't afford to upgrade my PC so I can't play it.
>>344018323
should I keep going?
weren't there almost nothing on it during e3? seems kind of sketchy
>>344019062
Nigga, they had their own stream a few days prior to E3.
>>344017774
Makes him look like a cook, when he did it as a joke.
>>344018323
I always buy games on launch day. Pre-ordering is fine as long as you do it like, a day before release.
>>344017161
I can't believe this is true.
