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You are going to buy his next game right? R&C16 was pretty
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You are going to buy his next game right? R&C16 was pretty great.

Let's have a comfy Ratchet & Clank thread.
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Looks like I'll have to jumpstart this then.

Why do people think Up Your Arsenal is the best when

>no grind rails
>terrible battle sections
>level design not as good as GC
>downgrade in guns from GC

It did have the best villain and arena though
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>>343954858
The new game was disappointing. The story was a mess and the cutscenes from the movie made everything jarring. It starts off well, then goes to shit during the last third. I do hope they make more, but they need to have a new game that isn't restricted by a movie.


>Why do people think Up Your Arsenal is the best
Because they haven't played ACIT
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Did anyone else think she was hot?
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>>343957595
I liked Cora too because her voice was sexy to me.
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R&C16 is a remake / reboot done right.
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>>343959191
>Missing content
>Reboot done right
But WWHD was a shameless cash grab, right?
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>>343960134
Ratchet and Clank is an actual remake though, not an HD port.
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>>343960223
WWHD wasn't just a port either, lots of assets, models and textures were redone, as were some of the more tedious parts of the game.
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>>343960849
Still not the same thing as making a game over from scratch.
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When I was a boy.... I had a crush on Ratchet...
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>>343957595

The ass was fat. I recall they used to give the asses some decent modeling back in Reboot, at least in the season after that retarded ban was lifted.
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>>343961461
...so you decided to become a girl.
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>>343961461
>being gay
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>>343960134

It was always meant to be connected to the movie in some way, it not having every single level doesn't mean they were cutting things.
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>>343961543
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why is ratchet so cute
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>>343955613
UYA was the funniest
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>>343955613

But the bosses were the best in it, as were the sections with the rangers.
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>>343961647
>Cut content doesn't mean they cut content
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>>343962473

You can't cut content that wasn't part of the plan you dingaling. If it was meant to be a 1:1 remake of the original then it would be cut content, it wasn't meant to be a direct remake.
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So the PS4 game was the first Ratchet & Clank game I've ever played.

How do the previous games compare in terms of gameplay? Which are worth playing, which are best ignoring, and which are in the middle area of maybe?
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>>343962796

The PS2 trilogy certainly have more going for them overall. More weapons and planets, plus a fairly better story. The PS3 games are also great in both gameplay and story, though they don't have as much exploration to do as the series became fairly linear after UYA. The return of a somewhat nonlinear progression in the remake was a nice positive that I hope Insomniac isn't going to drop all over again.
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Should I finish R&C in the HD trilogy before I play the recent remake?

I wasn't really feeling it but the new one looks great.
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>>343964574
if you want
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>>343964574

It would help you appreciate what they recreated more, for sure. The story and its tone are certainly different between the two. The remake does try to make things feel more urgent, but at the cost of the titular duo not having nearly as deep a connection as the original developed between them.
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I want to fuck that Lombax.

It's a shame he lost his jerkass personality though. I like a bit of the old "deadpan asshole in serious situations surrounded by white knights".
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>>343965349
i want to fuck this one
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>>343965872
>fucking girls
What are you, a faggot?
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>>343956609
>The new game was disappointing. The story was a mess and the cutscenes from the movie made everything jarring. It starts off well, then goes to shit during the last third.
this is the shittiest opinion i've ever seen posted on /v/
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>>343965349
I'd go Up his Arsenal
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>>343965980
are you
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>>343966201
Don't worry anon, it'll all be over never.
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>>343966460
I really hate this art style but ratchet is still cute
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>>343966460
>Super Deepthroat in bottom right
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>>343966593
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>>343966064

When aren't /v/ opinions shit?
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>>343966593
You have no idea how hard it is finding quality art of Ratchet that isn't ripped from the games.
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I wanted to replay this but I fucking hate the Clank sections. Wish you could skip that shit.
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>>343967176
The puzzles sections were fine. The retarded chase sections were stupid since they were rehashes of literally the same thing over and over.
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>>343967175
Yep, it sure sucks
At least he's cute in the movie
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>>343967285

There's only the two chases, even if the first is broken up a few times.
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>>343967387
medium/late adolescent Ratchet > kid Ratchet, tbqh.
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>>343967431
Both the first and second are broken up, but that doesn't change how repetitive they are.
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>>343965349
I also want to fuck the Lombax. Ratchet is sexy and would probably be a massive cockslut in bed.
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>>343967809
R&C Ratchet would be bad but enthusiastic at sex, and learn quickly.

R&C:GC Ratchet would be a massive slut.

R&C:UYA Ratchet would be the dominant partner, but I also think more controlled and restrained.

Reboot Ratchet would be like fucking a 12 year old.
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>>343955613
I don't care about the grind rails at all.
I will contend that I didn't care for the level design that much and the UI for the game was ugly. I hate that dull, blandishly dark orange they use for your weapon selection and nano meter. God, I despise it.
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>>343968085
Deadlocked? And the Future trilogy?
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>>343968404

>Deadlocked

Sadist who won't take no for an answer

>Future series

Willing, but hesitant at first. Eventually loses interest and just lies there.
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>>343968404
Aren't they locked into their suits for Deadlocked? So I imagine Deadlocked Ratchet would be a very unhappy Ratchet.

But to get in the spirit of things, rough sex but not BDSM, just more forceful than vanilla. All about his own pleasure, not yours.
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>>343968730
>>eventually looses interest and just lies there

Sounds like my ex. Different Anon by the way.

Frankly, I think GC was best, and would love a Remaster.... Not a reboot...

And no more movies!
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>>343969279

I wouldn't mind another film if they just bothered to make the plot more engaging and had the characters grow. It's biggest problem was that it was "safe", no tension or sense of growth from the characters.

As for another game, I think a remake could work if they kept everything of the original version and just made adjustments for the story. It'd be easy too, since Qwark has a brother that never appeared in the series, he could easily be used to replace Qwark without making him evil again for no reason.
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>furry shit
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>>343969805
>>Implying 4chan isn't full of Furry.
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>>343960849
>Add more bloom
>Cut half of the treasure hunting so babbies never have to learn to do things
>Cut the picto box sidequest so babbies don't have to do puzzles
>Add new sails for ADHD kids who can't bear to spend 3 minutes sailing from one island to another and don't want to use the Wind Waker for its intended function
I bet you liked Fi's Notebook in the 3DS Majora's Mask.
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>>343970360
>>Cut half of the treasure hunting so babbies never have to learn to do things

More like cut it so people didn't die from the tedium of doing the same 20 times.

And there was nothing wrong with the Notebook in MM3D, it's exactly the same as before.
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>>343963071
>yfw they cut Sasha so Tara Strong could have more saline money
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>>343970607

Pretty sure they dropped Sasha because they were going a new direction with the Future series. Besides, wasn't like Ratchet wasn't getting a new girl every game before, what with Angela in GC.

Hell, even Clank was getting it on with that slutbot in GC and then those hookerbots in UYA.
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>>343962750
Remake = Original game remade
Remake =/= Game with 50% of the content missing because it was based on a movie that was based on a game that had all the content

Ratchet is an entirely different character in the movie/moviegame too

It's a reBOOT, if it was a remake then it wouldn't tell long time fans to go fuck themselves, the movie/game isn't the Ratchet I grew to know and love, this is Sony trying to squeeze more money out of the series.

And one final note
>Nefarious was behind it all along!
If the series continues down this path, it's dead
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>>343954858
Yeah sure, maybe if it's on sale
then again the movie was bad, so we're not gonna get another movie, and then another game right?
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>>343970587
>entire planets got cut
>60% of the weapons got cut and replaced with weapons from the newer games
I dare you to try defending this
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Fuck the movie. It dragged down the game considerably.
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>>343971283
I want asshole ratchet back. I want the original music back. Hell, make another sequel after Future... Make it darker!
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>>343971283

No, a remake can have changes that make it completely different from the original you fucking tool.
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>>343966460
Kawaii
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>>343971761
At least include a reaction image so it's easier to tell you're not serious
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>>343971462

It's a reimagining you empty head whore. It wasn't a remake of the original, it was a retelling of the original using elements of the film. You literally can't "cut" stuff from a game that wasn't planned to have it.
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>>343971907

>hurr, you're not serious

At least put on a trip so I know you're a shitposter.
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>>343971926
>retelling
It's a god damn reboot, if it were a retelling then the movie would be about what happened in the game, not an entirely new story with a completely new personality for the character.
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I still wanna bang Ratchet.
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>>343954858
was it? looked mediocre.
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>>343972164

Retelling doesn't mean tell the same story exactly the same, dingus.
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>>343955613

>auto gadget switching
>actual built in lock strafe scheme
>two quick select wheels
>Guns actually upgrade to things you want
>auto gadget switching
>galactic rangers and nefarious
>auto gadget switching
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>>343972504
Seriously, use a reaction image so you appear less serious, it's hard to tell

Here use this one next time
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>>343972708

How about you admit you failed 6th grade English. Because a literal fucking child would know that a retelling means to tell a story differently.
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>>343972926
1/10

Listen anon I can tell now that you're trying to troll, but it's not working, this is flat out terrible bait.
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>>343972257
>tfw there's barely any SFW fanservice of Ratchet
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>>343967387
I want to kiss him.
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>>343973234

>you're just trolling

Go back to shreddit with your shit arguments. Next you're gonna say "inane" isn't a word.
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>>343973341
There's barely any good porn of Ratchet, period. Aside from a few pics.
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>>343973506
Porn of Ratchet doesn't do it for me.

I dunno, the more I like characters the less I want to fap to them.
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I want some quality Lombax nudes in my desk NOW.
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>>343973506
Id rather have porn of Daxter.

Ratchet has big Pixar face going on.
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>>343961543
I'd kick her ass
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>>343973639
E621 is the answer.
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post Talwyn lewds pls
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>>343973602
>I dunno, the more I like characters the less I want to fap to them.

I don't think your brain works right anon.
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>>343973861
There is none.
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>>343970607
Didn't she become galactic president in Deadlocked? I'm fairly certain that writes her out sufficiently as the Future series takes place in the Polaris galaxy not the Solana.
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>>343973861

Only thing I can find.

>those faces she makes when she pretends to asphyxiate in Into the Nexus.
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>>343973812
HAY B0oS
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>>343968097
Fun fact, up until late in development the ui was blue
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>>343973654
>Wanting to fuck a literal weasel/otter instead of a a qt Lombax
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>>343973980

Pretty sure her dad was still the big cheese at the time, and she was busy keeping things in check back home while Ratchet, Clank, and Al were checking out the area near the Dreadzone.

Then that fat fuck Zogg came in at some point after and got axed in the comic.
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>>343973943
It feels dirty anon. Like I'm betraying them.

Imagine you like a person and want to be emotionally and sexually intimate with them, but can only be sexually intimate with them. It's like that.

Except they're not real people, obviously, but it's an involuntary feeling.
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>>343973861
>Post lewds of worst girl pls
'Swrong with you?
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>>343974185

I'd rather fuck one of the girls, the things that are actually sexually appealing.
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>>343974134
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>>343974134
This is why I don't like drudging through e621 to find porn of a specific character.
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>>343974185
Daxter is plenty cute.
And his eyes dont creep me the fuck out.
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>>343974134
I like TG and I still wouldn't.
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>>343973654
>Id rather have porn of Daxter.
Just go to furaffinity and filter by Weasel.
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>>343974247
I know she gets elected at some point but that might have been in the comics. I think she should have come back for the movie though.
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>>343954858
ratchet looks like nathan drake
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>>343974298

Nobody mentioned Angela.
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Is there a single bad R&C game? Not "It was only a 6/10" but actually bad?
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>>343974349
Hey man I'm straight and I still want to fuck Ratchet.
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>>343974349
this
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>>343974438
Its just not the same.
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>>343974134
WEW
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>>343974560
Yes.

Deadlocked.
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>>343974134
Do not want.
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not one post saying going comando was the best of the series
it must be an unpopular opinion....
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>>343974759
>Deadlocked
>bad
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>>343954858
So is a Lombax supposed to be a cross between a wombat and lynx?
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>>343974560
All4One is pretty rough, but the writing still carries that and FFA/Q-Force and I'd argue that the PSP titles leave something to be desired.
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>>343974642
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>>343974823
Fine then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank:_Going_Mobile
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>>343974851
No, a lobster and a basset.
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Why was Bella so fucking awful? I used to think she was at least a competent actress but fuck, she was awful
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>>343974851
Holy shit, never thought of that.
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>>343974879
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Captain Quark was a terrible running meme.
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Best humor
Best guns
Best arena (i.e. the whole game)
2nd best story
2nd best bosses
Best companions (combat bots)
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>>343975094
>so pointy even the areola are sticking through
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>>343975256
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>>343960223
A remake with less content than the original.
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>>343975281
The combat bots were good. The B-6 and the Hunter Mine were terrible. Freeze, Shock, and Time Bomb were the only good mods.
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>>343974134
SHIT, I'M SKINNING OFF MY DIKE

SOMEONE CALL AN AMBULANCE
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>>343975531

It's still a great game.
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>>343975523
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>>343976239
Jax is shit, some of the ugliest motherfuckers in game history, even in concept art.
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>>343976239
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>>343975946
Every single weapon like the B-6 (AOE bomb like weapon you get near the start) quickly becomes gutter trash around mid game in almost every single R&C game.
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>>343955613
I liked deadlocked best
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>>343975523
i like how she looks at ashelin
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Recently beat the first three games with my friend.

She grew up with them and I didn't so it was nice getting to experience them with her.
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>>343976339

>Jax

This isn't Mortal Kombat you fucking retard. Though you are right, they have ugly characters, Cassie is fucking hideous.
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>>343976748
fcuck off
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>>343976341
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>>343976843

Type properly, retard.
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>>343954858
>implying ratchet & clank will get another release anytime soon with a bombed movie and the transition of insomniac to making spiderman games
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>>343977228

The entire team is doing Spiderman. So it's not unreasonable to assume another game will be made by 2018 or 19.
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>>343977175
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Honestly, after all the shitty annoying quips I had to listen to in Sunset Overdrive and R&C16, I'd want a new team of people who worked on the original trilogy to make the R&C games from here on out and for the rest of Insomniac to go away
>TFW You will never make out with Ratchet in zero g
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>>343954858
Unless it's a remake of UYA or Going Commando I don't give a shit.
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>>343977228

The movie bombed but the game did very well.

But yeah, we probably won't see another game until Spiderman comes out.
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>>343977228
>Someone thought a R&C movie would be a good, profitable idea and funded it
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>>343954858
>30fps
why
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>>343974134
"A deal's a deal, Clank!"
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>>343977483
this>>343977360
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>>343977360

Telling somebody to type properly isn't a meme, dipshit.
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>>343977331
>by 2019
you say that like it's going to be tomorrow

>>343977394
I just want a retouched Going Commando. Think Halo Anniversary but with Going Commando instead.
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>>343977636
keep crying
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4SsMtmcf4w

Still catchy
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>>343977629
But most/all of the other R&C games are 60fps
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>>343977847

>lol, u crying?

Keep shitposting, child.
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>>343977965

They ran into some trouble with the PS4 hardware. Hopefully, they might crack the thing and get back to 60fps, but at least the game ran fine as it was.
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>>343978104

Stop spreading bullshit. The developers stopped making 60fps games because they felt it had no effect on sales or review scores.
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>>343977993
keep going
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>>343977380
>being literally gay
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>>343978259

No, they had trouble with the PS4, just like everyone else out there because Sony systems are fucking like working with a goddamn alien device.
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>>343977483
Is it actually 30 fps? I was considering buying it but now I'll probably wait for PS4 neo and GC or UYA
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>>343978104
lolno, insomniac flat-out stated they don't make 60fps games anymore because Sony told them to stop, it doesn't make more people buy the game so they don't want to spend the extra money getting the game to actually run well.
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>>343978434
Yep
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>>343955613
I never actually noticed UYA didn't have grindrails despite having played it about 5 times.
It had those fun Quark levels though
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>>343978434

It runs just fine, you barely notice any difference between it and the older games.
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>>343978104
Dev's don't have time to optimize anymore.

Think from the mind of a shareholder/investor, do they care?
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>>343978431

No, they didn't. Get your head out of your ass. They haven't made a 60fps game for years now, that includes Sunset Overdrive, a game that wasn't even on a Sony system.
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>>343954858
If they made another I'd buy it, but after the complete and utter failure of the movie I'm not going to hold my breast.
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>>343978573
>30 to 60 fps
>barely notice a difference
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>>343978581

Because Xboxes aren't much easier to optimize for either.
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>>343978434
If that's really a breaking point for you why even consider getting the game at all? It's not like it's solely a graphical upgrade there's new additions to the game (whether good or bad will be up to you)
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>>343978513
Damn that's a shame

>>343978573
How does it run fine? Does it add a ton of motion blur like UC4 did to hide it's 30 fps? I'll probably look up a digital foundry video for it.
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>>343978793

There really isn't much of a difference.
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>>343978573
>>343978431

>http://www.insomniacgames.com/how-much-does-framerate-matter/

>A higher framerate does not significantly affect sales of a game.
>A higher framerate does not significantly affect the reviews of a game.

And this is from 2009. Mass-market appeal is literally and factually hurting games.

Developers won't even bother optimizing and shooting for 60fps when retards run out and buy the shit anyway. They're conditioned to think 30fps with constant drops is not only acceptable, but that wanting anything better is elitism.
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>>343978885

It doesn't add that much blur, and the gameplay is perfectly smooth.
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>>343978420
>Not wanting to kiss cute boys
>Not wanting to enjoy anal stimulation
>Wanting a girl who will cuck you and take your money
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>>343978949

Or maybe they realize that 30fps runs just fine when optimized by a competent developer.
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>>343978949
>And we want to make the right choices that reflect our commitment to providing you with the best looking games out there

Insomniac flat-out admits they care more about delivering pretty-looking games than games that run well since most players (the mass-market) don't care.
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>>343979158
Competent developers don't shoot for 30fps.
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>>343979085
I could totally see Nate cucking you for money.
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>>343979158
30 FPS is not some sort of graphics setting that has levels of quality. 30 fps is 30 fps, there is no such thing as optimizing it beyond that. You can't make a triangle more of a triangle, once it has 3 sides it's a triangle.

Besides if we're being real here "competent" developers wouldn't have 30 fps to begin with. You know like every single other console version of R&C before this.
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>>343955613
>>terrible battle sections
>>level design not as good as GC
>>downgrade in guns from GC
These are just outright false
>>no grind rails
admittedly disappointing but oh well
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>>343978865
I can't stand games locked at 30 fps especially if they are action oriented the choppiness literally kills all the immersion. I mean it's literally 2016
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>>343978945
I'm sorry you're blind then. But in a game as hectic and an R&C game should be, you want the level of control you don't get at 30 fps.
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>>343979402

It still doesn't make that fucking much of a difference, and you can optimize things because plenty of games don't dip that much at 30fps unless they're total shit and made by rock chomping morons.
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>>343979592

The level of control is exactly the same as the others, there is no fucking difference.
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>>343979589
So then Insomniac should do like Ni-Oh and have two framerate options?
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>>343979609
Dude, go turn on half life 2. do fps_max 30 then do fps_max 60 and tell me there's no difference.

>>343979735
Literally every console game should have that option.
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>>343979609
>>343979705
>T-t-there's no difference!
There factually and objectively is.
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>>343979735
Absolutely
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>>343979827

No there factually isn't.
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>>343979769
>>343979841
>settling for 720p 60fps than 1080p
Kill yourselves.
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>>343979942
>choosing graphics over graphics+gameplay

Higher fps looks better and plays better.
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>>343979942
720p 60 fps will alway be better than 1080p 30 fps.
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The game is great, but it felt so short. I completed the story and most side missions in what felt like 10 hours. They're not all that short are they?
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>>343980348
Going Commando and UYA are way better and longer too.
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>>343979909
Yes, there is. If you're playing at 30fps and your friend is playing at 60fps, your friend has the advantage.
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>>343980348

No, the others are fairly longer depending on whether you gun for every collectible and upgrade. Still, you get quite a lot for $40, and that's saying a lot compared to other games at the same price, or higher.
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>>343980630

In an online game, sure.
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>>343979909
>Factually isn't
>Most pros play at 144 fps and above with 144hz monitors because of the advantage it gives
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>>343979909
>>343980819
http://www.technologyx.com/featured/understanding-frame-rate-look-truth-behind-30v60-fps/
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>>343980936
Quake pros were lugging CRT's around to tournaments well after LCD's became popular because for the longest time CRT's were the only way to get above 60 FPS. They're also still the best at response times.
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>>343980946

Nigger, it doesn't fucking matter in a single player game because it's not affecting your ability to play it well. Stop being so fucking retarded and autistic.
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>>343979909
>>343980819

>>343980946
>If you’re playing your games at 30 FPS then the amount of time your display is sitting on one frame is 33.3 milliseconds. This means that when you move your mouse to aim at a target, it will take at least 33.3 milliseconds before you even start to see the cursor move. This delay is halved to 16.65ms at 60 FPS and so on

Factually and objectively better, you ignorant shitwits.
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>>343981147
>Nigger, it doesn't fucking matter in a single player game because it's not affecting your ability to play it well
see
>>343981153
It literally does, you blathering simpleton. It takes less time for the game to read your inputs. Doesn't matter if you're playing online or alone, input lag is input lag and less of it is ALWAYS better.
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>>343981153

I have never once had any of this bullshit "problem" with games at 30fps, stay wrong you niggeroid.
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>>343981147
>take less time for inputs to be read
>brain gets information faster and can react faster
>gradual inputs like moving are smoother in higher framerates
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>>343981293

And that only fucking matters in games where the lag could mean winning or losing something, like Dark Souls. In something like Ratchet, it literally doesn't fucking matter you goddamn autistic shitflinging monkey fucker.
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>>343981480
>basically a behind the back shmup when shit gets going
>totally doesn't matter

Even if we ignore that and say it "doesn't matter" it still feels much better.
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>>343981357
Try taking a game where you can change the framerate and do some tests. Of course you're not going to notice a difference if you only experienced a game in one way, you have nothing to compare it too. Do what I said earlier. Go play some fps and cap the framerate at either 30 or 60 and test out the differences.
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>>343981670

Not in every game, SotC suffered from the bump to 60fps and made it nearly impossible to beat some of the colossi, especially during time trials.
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>>343981962
That's the eternal sign of an incompetent developer, tying shit to the framerate.
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>>343981357
this is as moronic as that math thread up where people are arguing against an answer that's been proved a thousand times over, maybe its bait, idk

higher framerate = lower response time simply by virtue of the fact that the next frame will come sooner, so you'll see the results of your actions quicker

now >>343981153 oversimplified it, because just because the time between frames is 33.3 ms at 30 fps doesn't mean that it will take at least that long to see a difference. I'm not qualified enough to put out a concrete answer, but I can GUESS it'll be around 18 ms on average? Since it *is* possible that you move your mouse/whatever right before a frame update, and it's also possible that you make an action just BEFORE an update, so they should average out- JUST A GUESS (not taking into account monitor delay or whatever)

what's certain, however, is that the maximum time to see a difference is probably around 33 ms at 30 fps, whereas the maximum time to see a difference at 144fps is only 7 ms, roughly. I noticed a pretty damn difference just going from 144fps in touhou EoSD to 60 in PCB - it felt way more sluggish and difficult to control
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>>343981357
>>343981480
>Presented with factual information that completely and without question proves you 100% utterly wrong
>T-t-that doesn't matter!
kek
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>>343983067

Really fucking doesn't if you're still able to enjoy a game with no frustrations. But please, keep being an autistic shit it's so fucking enjoyable and helpful to the thread.
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>>343983467
>Says it factually doesn't make a difference
>Gets btfo with actual facts
>It d-doesn't matter guys
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>>343983467
>no frustrations

Who needs to make an A when you can get a C right?
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>>343983753

It doesn't, I've had no issue with games on either setting. So just drop you fucking child.

>btfo

Nicely memed, kiddo, nicely memed.
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>>343983891
>It doesn't
Again, see
>>343980946
>http://www.technologyx.com/featured/understanding-frame-rate-look-truth-behind-30v60-fps/

This explains, with facts and numbers, why 30fps is factually inferior to 60fps. There's no "problem" or "issue" here for you to have running your game, it's either 30fps or it isn't, and 30fps is factually inferior to higher frame rates.
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>>343984126

If it doesn't bother everybody, then it's not a big deal.
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>>343984253
But you didn't say that, you said
>there is factually no difference
And there is, 30fps is factually inferior to 60fps, period.

The fact that it doesn't bother most people is why we get shitty games that are horribly optimized, devs don't have to try to satisfy the mass-market.
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>>343984575

Because clearly the mass market doesn't care about 60fps. Majority rules, and clearly the majority don't care, because if they did then this wouldn't be a fucking problem.
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>>343984880
That's the point, you massive fucking moron.

This all started with pointing out Insomniac flat-out saying they weren't making 60fps games anymore because review scores and sales don't improve with 60fps. That is the case because of retards like you who saying "There's no difference!" when it's factually false and 60fps improves every game. The mass-market is dumbing down games and making them factually and objectively worse and less responsive.
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>>343985440

They're responding just fucking fine you mongoloid shit gargling moron.
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30fps is a developer choice. They choose to make the graphics as best as they can for that platform instead of scaling them back for 60.
It's also based on moving parts on screen.
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>>343985663

Also whatever the genre of game it is. Something like XCOM doesn't make much of a difference as the RNG isn't going to be any more crackpot with a higher or lower framrate.
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>>343985954
>>343985663
>30fps is a developer choice
And it's a bad and unnecessary one.

>>343985652
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself. There is no advantage to 30fps and there is no disadvantage to 60fps.
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Sonyggers are the only people on /v/ who will defend a 30fps downgrade on a remake
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>>343986484

The disadvantages are still not as bad you make them out to be.
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>>343986640
>Sonyggers

Dem piping hot memes.
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>>343986819
Stop shilling. Cinematic experiences are the cancer to video games. Just. fucking. stop.
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>>343987161

I didn't shill anything, and I didn't even mention "cinematic" anything you autistic retard. Seriously, you accuse me of baiting and "pretending" to be retarded, yet here you are defaulting to fucking meme goalpost shifts when someone doesn't conform to your fucking worldview. Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
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>Thread has divulged into fps arguments
Insomniac fucking said that they don't want to focus on frame rate because reviewers care more about graphics, 60 is better than 30 but saying that this running at 30FPS is somehow a downgrade compared to the original PS2 game running at 60FPS is a farce, the PS2 could not handle a game like this
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>>343987629
funny. even a bad looking game at 60 fps looks better than a gorgeous one at 30.

it's just so much more believeable.
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>>343987864
Normally I would agree that 60FPS looks better because games usually do animations with motion capture so they look better with a higher framerate but Insomniac was smart with this game and did tons of animation smears for the character animations and that makes the 30FPS work and look like a fully 3D cartoon game
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>>343966064
The facial animations were noticeably less pronounced, meaning very little effort was put into them. The characters looked bored in almost every conversation they had. How can you even miss that unless this is your first R&C game?
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>>343987629
>Insomniac fucking said that they don't want to focus on frame rate because reviewers care more about graphic
Literally everything wrong with the video game industry, hope you guys dont support this cancerous company.
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>>343988191

Only in the bits between the "movie" scenes. And not like they were much better in most of the older games. You had a little more life in some, but plenty of interactions with characters just had them standing around and trading quips.
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>>343988497
it's shit, anon. just accept insomniac has lost their touch. the series had a good run.
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>>343978104
>Still no Ratchet & Clank Future Collection for PS4
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>>343988602

The characters not being that emotive during conversations hardly means squat. The gameplay is what matters and that's still as solid as ever. Hell, they brought back nonlinear level progression after abandoning that back in the PS2 era.
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>>343988764

Given the PSNow is doing Sony well enough, they probably won't bother. Still, it is interesting that they never added a trophy patch to Tools of Destruction and Quest for Booty, since as far as I know those are the only games in the series without trophy support.
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>there will never be a Ratchet game as good as GC again
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>>343989917

It is a shame they didn't take avantage of the game's backdrop to make it tie into the original series.

>Qwark is in jail for what he did in the Original game
>Here's that a holofilm is being made without his input
>Begins to bullshit the reboot game, adding in the stuff relating to the movie because he's an idiot and letting the inmate he's entertaining provide misinformation
>Ends with Qwark figuring he can get back at the duo by carring out the plan seen in GC

Still, not the worst reimagining of a character.
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>>343986819
Yes, they are. And when the vast majority of the customer base is ignorant, everyone gets an inferior product.

Publishers don't WANT informed players who actually know the difference between games at 30fps with constant drops and games at 60+fps. They want customers like you who not only insist there's no difference but actually defend the bullshit excuses they pull out of their asses like "It's an artistic choice" as if it's actually true. They just aren't working within the limitations of the hardware to get better visuals and cut corners because the mass-market is as ignorant as you are.
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>>343954858
for the record

deadlocked > all
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>>343991280

Just shut the fuck you little crybaby shit. You could have just let it go, but no, you drag it back out after an hour. Fuck off, you shitposting little twerp.
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>>343991437
>but no, you drag it back out after an hour
Sorry, I was playing a game at 60fps.
>Facts are shitposting
lel
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>>343991559

Your facts prove nothing. 30fps play just fucking fine. Until the day a 30fps literally kills someone, you're just crying a river you little shit.
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>>343954858
You better believe it. I ignored my friend back in the day, didn't pick up the series until the third game. Corrected that mistake. Every one is a day one buy for me, no regrets.
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