Just marathoned an hour or so of pic related. What's our opinion on it?
>just marathoned an hour
>>343927302
Dude Toads lmao
It's garbage
>>343927302
>What's our opinion on it?
WE THE HIVEMIND DEMAND THAT YOU PRINT OUT SEVERAL MIYAMOTO PICTURES AND THEN SET THEM ON FIRE
FOLLOW OUR WILL
>>343927302
PM hivemind says it's bad so that's what I believe as well.
>>343927302
>responding in greentext for meme puposes
>>343927302
/tv/ please go.
>>343927302
/v/ fucking despises this game.
Absolute trash that the developers should have waited on to see reactions instead of immediately jumping to a sequel in the same style.
On its own its a cute game that's not that bad. As a Paper Mario game, it's shit.
I always thought this would work more as a yoshi RPG.
Paper Yoshi? Would've sold a lot better.
>>343931219It's technically not a RPG but a flat out Action/Adventure game.
>>343931219
That sorta happened aesthetically with Yoshi Story.
It's just not very fun. Put about 10 tedious hours into it before I completely gave up on it.
Not even close to the quality of the previous games, but not as bad as a lot of people claim it is. Probably about a 6/10
GOAT soundtrack though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rq8QM47QdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFp7kt4G-Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR_BoXyZlDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKMc5v9qKvc
>>343931219
My thoughts exactly. Yoshi: Sticker Star would have been much better.
>>343930378
>developers should have waited on to see reactions
they did, the game sold lots of copies and outside shitposting sites like this people enjoy it
>>343927302
It's the game /v/ doesn't want you to like.It's secretly great and Color Splash wil be better
>>343928186
With that game, one hour feels like a marathon.
>>343931219
>Would've sold a lot better.
Sticker Star is literally the third best selling game across all Mario RPGs.
Due to the fact people keep saying it didn't sell well. I've created a spreadsheet and determined based fact based on the hardware and average number of games purchased per system Sticker Star is actually the 2nd best performing Paper Mario relative to the platform it appears on.
>>343938016
fuck off casual
>>343927302
>Marathoned an hour
What was an hour of playing a fucking DS game that mentally taxing that you had to call it a marathon?
>>343927302
You just wasted an hour of your life and you'll never get it back. Unplug your internet before you waste even more
>>343936462
It sold due to the high 3DS userbase and lack of information at the time. The old fanbase (the fanbase of the first 2 games and part of the 3rd) disliked it a lot, while new people jumped in. Which leads to the division it caused (even more after the split super caused on the fanbase).
And pic related shows that they did not wait for feedback, they started development right away on color splash.
>>343936462
They really don't. People dislike it a lot anon.
>>343938436
see >>343938124
now what's your excuse?
>>343938475
> People dislike it a lot anon.
A group of people that make up a fraction of a fraction of the games audience REALLY don't like it and have a vendetta against it. They're literally out to try and make people not like it.
>>343938124
>made up spreadsheet
>>343938436
>legit interviews
>>343938592
his excuse for what
>>343938681
>>343938681
>people tell others to avoid a bad game
That's a good thing.
>>343938592
I never said it sold bad, just that even though it sold well, people still dislike it. They should have waited to see how fans would react.
Another problem though was that people let it slide because it was a handheld title. People thought that a console paper mario would go back to what the first games were. Unfortunately, you can see that that didn't happen.
>>343938592
He just told you that the old fans had a lack of info (which I can vouch for, I went in thinking it'd be more like the originals myself when it first came out) & new people joined in during the time.
>>343938692
>n-nobody liked that game
>gets BTFO by sales
>b-but these sales don't count
>gets BTFO by sales chart
>i-it's made up
enjoy crying more while everyone else enjoys these games, faggot
if you're so desperate for grinding try a different game
>>343938692
>made up spreadsheet
I made the spreadsheet. All my information is from official sources. All I did was compile the data and made a model based on the userbase size and how many games the average user bought for each system.
>https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/index.html
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=963700
It took me about 5 minutes to make the spreadsheet but its had 100x more thought put into it than mindlessly spouting "It only sold betta becuz it's on 3DS Waaah!".
>>343939010
>nobody liked it
>but the sales
>some people still didn't like it
>>343938681
>said in that same post that some people didn't like it
Anon, please put effort into your posts. Even resorting to the dragon instead of slightly editing the Bowser image is lazy.
>>343938885
the previous game didn't even have turned battles at all so you have no reason to believe SS would
now what's your next excuse?
>>343938124
So what excuse are you gonna use when Color Trash sells way less than a million?
>>343939010
>BTFO by sales
?
people still don't like it
>>343939010
Not him but it's too early to say if the sales mean people enjoyed it. If Color Splash sells well then you're right, if not Sticker Star sold well due to the 3DS having a bigger audience or ignorance. We just have to wait & see.
>>343939220
They showed trailers, the trailers made it look like the originals but it clearly wasn't after I/we played it. There's my "excuse".
>>343930378
>Sticker Star guy no longer defending Sticker Star
W-What happened?
>>343939510
It's not him. Pretenautist has the S in Sticker & Star capitalized.
>>343939510
he actually played the game
>>343939291
>my small internet crusade speaks for everyone
hmmm that sounds familiar
>>343939220
The first beta images they showed were really similar to TTYD. The sticker system was in place, but pokeys were in the old style and there was a chainchomp partner, as well as a monty mole king. All were cut/changed probably when Miyamoto said no OCs. However, the Iwata Asks interview only came out way later, so people still thought the game would be TTYD-ish.
>>343939626
so people not liking it doesn't count as people not liking it
lolwut
thankfully color splash will bomb and the series will end
>>343939242
>So what excuse are you gonna use when Color Trash sells way less than a million?
What makes you think I think Color Splash will sell 1 million? There hasn't been a single JRPG on any 8th gen console to sell 1 million. Also my spreadsheet predicts it will sell 0.69 million provided it does as well on WiiU as Sticker Star did on 3DS.
>>343939854
sure snowflake anon, only your personal opinion counts
>>343939164
Add those links in the image so it looks more legitimate next time, Anon.
>>343939862
this
paper mario fanboys are the worst and they deserved to be nuked
>>343939976
anon, if some people don't like it, that counts as people not liking it
sorry if that's a little confusing
>>343938436
>We will never get to play that game that Miyamoto said was "just a remake" of Thousand Year Door.
>We will never know what awesome partners awaited us
>Badges will never get even more interesting and unique to flesh out the mechanic even more
>Paper Mario will never have a compelling story with interesting and quirky characters ever again
fucking kill me
I dunno
I liked the Mexican Shy Guys.
>>343940135
anon, if some people like it, that counts as people liking it
sorry if that's a little confusing
>>343940363
>if some people like it, that counts as people liking it
exactly
now you're getting it
>“This game is an action-adventure. I’m sure you’re aware that, at Nintendo, we also have another series called the Mario & Luigi RPG series and so since we already have that established Mario & Luigi RPG series, in order to differentiate these two series that we have running concurrently, we’ve tried to focus more on the non-RPG elements for the Paper Mario games. In terms of what we focus on for the Paper Mario series, we focus on puzzle-solving [and] humor.
>This time we have–I don’t know if I want to say a proper story–but we have a story. It starts from kind of mysterious opening.. You’re not sure what is going on, and as you go through the story, you’ll realize, oh this is what happens. And there’s a lot of interesting stuff that happens with you and Huey.”
- Tabata said the paint mechanic is the result of one of the development team’s kids getting into painting
- game will let you carry 99 stickers
- hints are optional and players will only be able to get them by asking Mario’s partner character, the paint can Huey
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260783-paper-mario-series-focus-is-on-puzzle-solving-humor-color-splash
>>343939704
This is the only footage from the beta stage of the game. You can see the chain chomp partner in action at the end.
>>343940474
>hints
Oh thank god. The puzzles in the previous game were absolute bullshit.
>>343939964
Oh so you're excuse will be being a complete retard.
Less than a million would be an abysmal failure for an HD console game with a much bigger budget than Sticker Star. Not to mention their only christmast game.
>>343939976
But it's not snowflakes that dislike it. This image shows that & it isn't even all of it, plenty of people tweeted their disappointment in the past & the Twitch chat was going crazy during the demonstration spamming "RIP" & "F" and etc. There's also this playlist with over 100 videos with the backlash: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLjYGJDZ2GqL9qcw4yhiCOjgBZmoFZq6P
>>343941069
>not selling more than every other rpg in the whole generation would be an abysmal failure
>>343941069
>calling someone a retard without actually refuting their claim
Nice.
>>343941346
For a Mario game, yeah.
>>343941330
Those dislikes are pretty forced though. There were a bunch of salty fucks pointing people towards those video just to dislike it.
>>343941069
>Less than a million would be an abysmal failure
Not if it's on the Wii U, where it's the norm.
>>343941346
The game will release after FFXV.
>>343941585
If it's got Mario in the name, its expectations are simply higher.
>>343941583
>Those dislikes are pretty forced though.
Seems like you're just looking for excuses, Anon. Some people will obviously like this game & it'll probably be a better than Sticker Star in some ways, that's in inevitable but you can't disregard the hate it's getting.
>>343941585
It's the norm across the three home consoles. I'm sure Final Fantasy XV, KH3 and DQXI(maybe considering the 3DS version) will be the exceptions.
But not even the PS4 has a single million seller JRPG so far.
>>343941583
>Those dislikes are pretty forced
The entire Paper Mario fanbase is forced.
Mediocre RPGs turned into mediocre platformers, both overly praised by autists.
>>343941735
But by how much? The other guy is using scaling based on console and against the other mario rpgs. You're just saying that it should magically be the best selling JRPG on the entire console. Give an actual frame of reference other than saying "it has to be a million". Compare it to another game on the same console for example.
>>343941330
>10 autists raiding youtube and twitch with bots
wew lad, that sure says more than the game sales
>>343941980
Read >>343939410
We don't know how much those sales means when it comes to feedback until Color Splash comes out.
>>343941479
What's to refute?
He's using simple proportions to indicate what will or won't be a failure without considering the differences in development costs and the fact that past a certain point more installbase doesn't directly translate in just as much more copies of the game sold.
He thinks like a grade schooler.
>>343941585
There are various good selling games on WiiU, but less than a million is definitely a failure.
>>343941980
>more copies of Sticker Star returned than any other game in the series
wew lad
>>343941965
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_U_video_games
Mario Kart 8: 7.5 million
New Super Mario Bros. U: 5.19 million
Super Mario 3D World: 4.82 million
Super Mario Maker: 3.52 million
New Super Luigi U: 2.49 million
Mario Party 10: 1.76 million
Half of the top best selling Wii U games are Mario games (let's not get into semantics about Super Luigi, please).
I would definitely say, with Color Splash being the only relevant thing on the console for the rest of the year, having its sales be below a million would be abysmal.
>>343942450
Mario Party is in a similar situation to Paper Mario with it changing drastically (negatively no-less to a lot of people) & it being a spin-off. How about you/we compare the sales of those games with each other, it might give a better idea of what Color Splash's sales could be like.
>>343942450
Another shit game like Ultra Smash bombing makes me optimist about the failure of this nu-Paper Mario abortion.
Hopefully the reviews will be just as bad.
>>343942450
See now that's fair to bring up, just until this post the guy with the chart was the only one actually backing up their side with evidence of some sort.
>>343942719
I'm not sure what you want.
Every single Paper Mario game before this has sold over a million. Mario games on the Wii U are capable of moving millions of units.
What kind of tricky math do you want me to pull off, to try and make it seem like selling under a million wouldn't be a failure?
>Implying sales are the only meaningful feedback
>Massive, very clearly visual backlash on various online media platforms like YouTube and Twitch
>3.3/5 on GameFAQs (compared to 4.45/5 for TTYD)
>5.9/10 Users rating on Metacritic (compared to 9.4/10 Users rating for TTYD)
Feel free to show me a game rating website that has Paper Mario: Sticker Star as highly rated among regular gamers rather than journalists. Even among journalists, it's at least lower rated. 75% on Metacritic and 75.97% on GameRankings are pretty high, but compare them to 87% on Metacritic and 88.85% on GameRankings for TTYD.
Even among people that liked Sticker Star or at least thought it was just okay and not an abortion, it's clear that the general consensus can at least agree that it's not as good as previous games in the series, and that it has its fair share of flaws.
>>343942074
>sales don't count until the game comes in a dead console that can't fill my unrealistic expectations and prove my strawman
>>343942964
Here you go.
>already making excuses for the inevitable failure of this pile of feces
This is hilarious.
Are you guys just trolling? Or is one of you the pretendoautist?
>>343943084
Not saying it doesn't count, I'm saying we don't know how the majority of people felt about the game until Color Splash comes out since people had to buy Sticker Star to try it out initially. Color Splash is going to having very similar gameplay so people might ignore it this time if they didn't like the gameplay of Sticker Star.
It's pretty good.
>>343943538
Or they might ignore it because they don't have a WiiU.
>>343943084
Paper Mario always came out on dying consoles.
Nice try though.
>>343943312
Everything on Amazon has inflated ratings you fucking retard
>>343943451
>>343943638
Both the wiiu underselling/reaching the end of it's life and sticker star already say that color splash will be a failure.
>>343927302
>an hour
This place is an addiction if you think one hour is marathoning it
>>343943904
>Spend an hour a day playing video games
>Spend 15 arguing about them on the internet
>>343944065
Sounds about right.
It's an embarrassment
>>343943849
>Both the wiiu underselling/reaching the end of it's life and sticker star already say that color splash will be a failure.
No, just the WiiU and if it sells around the amount predicted her: >>343939964 . It's going to be paraded around that it only sells ~0.7 million because of Sticker Star despite the fact it's only because of the WiiU.(Much like how Paper Mario 64 only sold 1.37 mllion and that was on the Nintendo 64).
The game would have to sell well under 0.5 million for Sticker Star to be considered the cause.
>>343943638
True, true. I feel it's still a good way to understand the feedback through sales in some way though due to the install base.
>>343927302
>marathon
>hour
pls leave.
Tabata, from the other thread:
>This time we have–I don’t know if I want to say a proper story–but we have a story.
This, coupled with the "Lots and lots of Toads" quote, make me assume they're actually aware that they're making shit games and not even trying.
So the question is why?
>>343944582
To be honest though, Wii U game sales have kind of fucking died recently. Look at Star Fox Zero. It didn't even sell 100k.
#FE will be lucky if it reaches that number as well, even internationally.
Granted, this is a Mario game, but I'm not sure what exactly other than Zelda would be a surefire hit.
>>343944748
They have no choice or miyamoto/tanabe will fire them.
>>343944748
The reason they're using Toads is pretty obvious cost cutting. They're probably making the best possible game they can while minimising the budget so that it's sales targets are easier to meet.
>>343940474
>>343944748
Does >>343938436 need to be updated already?
>>343927302
>our
>muh community approved taste!
You need to be 18 to post here
>>343928252
Hi leggit
>>343927302
My opinion is that "an hour or so" isn't marathoning a game
It was not that shit until I reached the boss battles and realized battles don't matter
>>343945993
Oh right, that's what did it for me too. Only getting coins for random battles and you have to use resources just to attack, it was an rpg that felt more rewarding to avoid as much battle as I could so I just lost interest.
>>343940704
I'm assuming this is ironic since you posted the easiest puzzle in the whole game
>>343927302
>marathon
>one hour
>>343947764
Also boss battles being focused on a single gimmick, it's basically "discover the right giant sticker or fuck off because nothing else matters"
>>343948547
Which seems to making a return for the most part.
>>343948547
It's still better than TTYD's boss fights.
>our
literally the cancer killing this board
>>343948767
>Morton's hammer does 48 damage
>Using the fire hydrant brings his health down to almost nothing
Why did they chose to make this problem fucking worse?
>>343941828
>>343941980
Kill yourself
>b-b-but sales!!!
I'd like to remind you all that the best selling 2600 game was that shitty Pac-Man port.
Sales =/= Quality
>>343951713
Sales don't indicate quality, but companies will usually follow them. Fanbases are only listened by a few devs/when they try to look on why their game failed.
>>343948886
What's wrong with TTYDs boss fights? They weren't super challenging, but they were fine for what the game was, and you could make 'em harder with optional stuff like danger mario
