PS1 graphics >> N64 graphics
>>343911830
>emulated
Nobody really thinks so but keep posting lovely Spyro screencaps
>>343911830
Agree, most devs knew they were sorta limited so they had to get creative and go for a nice style rather than making it look "real", like Crash, spyro and Parappa to name a few.
>>343913042
lewd
>Posts upscaled PS1 graphics with a fuck ton of AA and filtering
You're not fooling anyone
Depends on the game. Some suffered more from the Z-calculation jitters or muddy texture work than others, while some really benefited from escaping flat colorful textures of most N64 releases.
N64 is way better.
N64 collect-a-thons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS1 collect-a-thons
>>343911830
Definitely. The one problem was the PS1's rounding issues that caused weird 3D perspective distortion.
What is the best N64 had to offer? Banjo Tooie and Perfect Dark? They can't even compare to some of the games the PS1 somehow had running on it, and running smoothly too.
- N64 has a real GPU.
- PS1 does not.
- Those renders are from a tool used to open Spyro maps on PC.
>>343914895
>Silent Hill's drawdistance: 1 inch
>>343914904
Weapons-grade mad rn.
>>343911830
I think you mean
low poly graphics > everything else
>>343915102
B-BUH IT'S STYLISTICALLY DESIGNED TO BE THIS WAY
>>343914904
how can the PS1 even compete?
>>343914904
God damn imagine Banjo being able to actually run around and platform in that world instead of needing a vehicle to get everywhere
I didn't even dislike Nuts & Bolts all that much but the two year wait between the teaser trailer and N&B's first gameplay trailer was fucking brutal to me.
>>343914651
>>343914782
The colors and overall artstyle are pretty bad to be honest. Not saying anything about the actual graphics, but the art is incredibly dated.
>>343911830
>>343911925
>>343912037
>>343912812
>>343912936
>>343913042
>>343913192
>>343913462
>>343914651
>Posting emulator screencaps
>>343914904
DELETE THIS
PS1 hardware is garbage
The N64 had the advantage of coming out later, with better hardware.
>>343915748
Software mode plebs btfo.
>>343915748
I remeber I knew almost nothing about pc hardware so I was disappointed that the graphics quality was worse than N64 when we finally got a pc in 1998. Then I found out about 3d accelerators, bought a 3DFX card and it all went up from there.
>>343916146
If the N64 is more powerful, why do the games look worse?
>>343916313
DELETE THIS
>>343916146
>"not real 3D" because of low-precision math
Give me a fucking break, retard. All 3 consoles calculate 3D geometry, variance in precision does not make one any less "real" than the other.
>>343916359
>Finally cornered, the shitposter will deny that which is so obvious to all but himself
Would you like to humiliate yourself some more or are we done here?
>>343913462
Das it mane..das the one
That texture wobble though
>>343911830
Technically no, but I really liked how PS1 games looked in general.
>>343916604
You can do primitive 3D calculations on a SNES or Genesis, doesn't make them 3D consoles
>>343915162
To be fair it was really fucking spooky that way.
>>343916339
Yeah, it was like a fuckin black magic.
3Dfx spirits are still living in those nvidia cards.
>>343911830
Am i the only one who like the distorted texture effect of the ps1 era?
Especially on spooky game like medievil. Bonus point if the overall world is very dark.
>>343916853
The joke here is that you can use a PC to see tits (pornography) but you couldn't with consoles back then.
>>343916359
>implying
>>343916359
It's mostly down to art. PS1 had shit 3D, but the devs were smart and put some effort on designing stuff for it, so a lot of games still hold up to this day because of the good art styles. N64 had better 3D but mostly boring art and some shit that tried to go for a realistic look, which looks like shit nowadays. Nintendo games had good art, but third party ones were pretty shit.
>>343916961
I love it, makes the world feel more alive or something.
![quake-software-vs-hardware-composite[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cKGfyWF.jpg "quake-software-vs-hardware-composite[1].jpg")
>>343916202
>>343917105
Ahh that explains why all the edgy stoner kids liked it so much.
>>343916359
>If the N64 is more powerful, why do the games look worse?
I think he's serious.
>>343916961
Not sure if liking is the right word, but it is really nostalgic, and adds some charm I guess to the games released on that console.
>>343916770
SNES could not perform 3D calculations natively, games like Star Fox had 3D chips embedded in the carts that could interface with the SNES hardware to draw to the screen, there is literally nothing in the SNES that allows 3D math to be performed. It's the exact same with 3D games like Virtua Racer on the Genesis. PS1, Dreamcast and N64 can all perform 3D math on the console itself.
Think before you post you fucking retard.
>>343917045
Fug the back OFF?!?!?!
FFIX's graphics were cozy as fuck. Hell IX had nicer models than some early PS2 games.
>>343917241
why was this deleted?
>>343911830
>>343911925
>>343912037
>>343912812
>>343912936
>>343913042
>>343913192
>>343913462
>obvious emulator with non-1:1 settings
>pig disgusting widescreen
You bring the original Spyro trilogy to shame. Stop that this instant.
Why did N64 games had such blurry textures?
I remember playing Turok and Goldeneye and it was a sad mess.
>>343917436
Speaking of, I just got Goldeneye
Does that game look any different when the N64 uses an Expansion Pak?
>not playing on your n64 on your jet's MFD
>>343917436
That's just proper early 3D in general. The pixelated look of PS1 textures helped make them more crisp.
>>343917436
The N64 had a blur filter that is applied to every game on a hardware level.
>>343916853
>tfw no more software rendering
>>343917423
because i'm an idiot.
>ps1 graphics is psychedelic
>>343915748
PC gaming back then was the worst. you have to remember that we were back in 100-500mhz range. you had to shell out premium hardware just to play. let alone the OS was ridden with virus once you connect to the internet thing.
R6/ao2 online was great though + roms and shit.
>>343917404
>SNES could not perform 3D calculations natively
PS1 can't do them all either. It doesn't have float support, how do you expect it to perform proper 3D calculations?
>>343914782
>>343914651
HEHE DUNKEY SAID ITS GOOD SO I BETTER EMULATE IT HEHEHEHEHEHE
THE GOOD OL' DAYS
>>343917559
It was made before the expansion pak so it doesn't use the additional RAM
>>343917436
Extremely small texture cache + need for compression due to expensiveness of solid state media.
>>343917436
http://retrorgb.com/n64blur.html
>>343916146
I think we can all agree that the texture warping in PSX games is apparent. I think some early PS2 games do that too, at least Ratchet and Clank 1 did.
>>343911830
My dick graphics >> your dick graphics
>>343917678
it sucked hard in my opinion.
On the other hand the crisp textures of the PS1 were pretty good.
>>343917765
>PC gaming back then was the worst.
Stop reading
>>343917765
>PC gaming back then was the worst.
Whoah easy there fella. It sure as heck wasn't cheap but there were lots of great games to be played.
>>343917895
I've always felt RGB and GameShark codes that remove the filtering make the games look worse with all the dithering it introduces.
I really love the way the texture moved in ps1 games, it gave games a weird feeling.
>>343917792
By 3D calculations I mean "has the ability to natively process polygonal graphics", the PS1, Dreamcast and N64 all use 3D polygonal math to render their games; X,Y,Z coordinates etc... precision doesn't mean dick shit, the math is being performed, all that is differing is the rounding process, it is still 3D.
Not calling the PS1 a 3D console is pure idiocy, you evidently know nothing about how it works.
>>343918028
Ratchet and Clank had perspective correct texture mapping; I don't think any PS2 games didn't.
It did have some questionable LoD effects. Insomniac had used LoD on Spyro to great effect but it was a little glitchy in R&C so you would see world objects swell or shift as you approached them sometimes. Nothing to do with hardware, just their implementation of LoD.
n64 looked bad, ps1 looked worse
Well spyro had super comfy music at least
>>343917765
>Poorfag
>let alone the OS was ridden with virus once you connect to the internet thing.
You deserved it.
>>343917417
FFIX was made at the end life of the PS1 so it's not surprising. It was fucking magic tho
>>343916359
I wouldn't say they look worse just that nobody could actually figure out how to program N64 games other than Nintendo and the devs who made Beetle's Racing Adventure. Meanwhile the PS1's greatest weaknesses (lack of floating-point implementation and crippling read times) had workarounds made by most devs so their effects were reduced.
Why do you bring this upon yourselves?
>>343918803
Aren't you forgetting Rare?
>>343916724
>native resolution
Just as god intended it to be
>>343918983
The only way I can enjoy ps1 games is on a 4 inch PSP screen.
>>343916313
This gif will never cease to make me chuckle.
>>343919045
I remember playing Tony Hawk on a projector. My eyes were bleeding within 5 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYtRod-XUU
Man those Spyro games are still really fun.
I should set my ps3 up again and play them
What's with the sonynigger chimpout happening today on /v/?
>>343916614
It's impressive how the worlds in Spyro hold up as well as they do.
The character models don't at all but Insomniac had great art directors working on the environments.
>>343919817
Insomniac were always technical wizards even better than Naughty Dog.
>>343919743
delete this
>>343919371
Its a shame Edge of Reality butchered the music in the N64 version. The console can handle quality music with effort and compression.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fVFx8sbLv8
>>343916359
Each fifth-generation console has it's pros and cons over the other. If you're talking about emulation, it's because N64 emulation is a clusterfuck.
>>343911830
Remember when you were a kid and played games because they were fun instead of shitting out of your mouth about what was better?
Yeah me neither, the playground was a tough place.
>>343918983
>>343919743
it's funny how screenshot don't make justice to how blurry and shit the N64 games were and how crisp the PS1 were.
You kids would know if you were not so underaged and actually played the games on the consoles.
How can psx even compete?
>>343920504
Other way around, PS1 games look crisp andedgyon emulators while on a CRT both consoles were the same grainy shit.
>>343920198
Yeah I think it was just laziness that made most devs go with the midi/tracker music. Not that I didn't like some of it anyway. I preferred the SF Rush sequel soundtracks to the original even though the original actually had real recordings.
>>343919743
N64 has no shadows.
>>343917848
fuck off millennial
>>343916821
also the shitty controls increased the spook
>comparing which games console had better graphics
>with emulator screenshots
this is like waifufags who use fanart to prove a point
>FMVs
>Multiple PS1 vs N64 threads on /v/
THE WAR NEVER ENDED
>>343920672
This is true.
>>343921104
Also this.
>>343919743
i had no idea R4 was even on the N64. is that even R4 on the right? looks like a totally different game.
>>343920920
Silent Hill 1 controls better than any Resident Evil. Literally any of them. Even Silent Hill 2 somehow has a worse camera than Silent Hill 1.
>>343920854
>what is a car jumping
>>343920504
Don't graphic whores hate crisp because they hate aliasing?
So blurry is better to them?
>>343920672
the only thing that was evident at the time was that the N64 games were a blurry mess
n64 games > ps1 games
>>343916313
heh
>>343914904
He aint got no shins!
>>343921454
more like PRETENDO 64
>>343916313
Oddly accurate
>>343915748
>PC has hovercars
Masterrace wins again!
>>343921369
I would not know, and I don't think it was a matter off good graphics or not but more about how uncomfortable the blurry texture made the experience.
>>343921369
Good AA doesn't blur. I'd take PS1 jaggies over the N64's "Vaseline smeared all over the television set" any day.
>>343921329
No, it's a shitty port of Ridge Racer developed by one of Nintendo's studios.
>>343921454
>nintenyearolds
fucking laughing stock of /v/
>>343921215
Modern console war threads are boring since it's just a cycle of shitting on whatever new game or accessory comes out, but with old consoles it's easier and funner because all the cards have already been dealt for them.
>>343921454
Nintendrone here. Not even close. Sure it had Marios, Zeldas, Smash, and Banjo, but that was about it. N64 is definitely a low point and marked a clear decline. Gamecube amped the quality back up and had good 1st and 3rd party games and then they ruined that all going forward.
We can at least agree
PS1 sound >N64 sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfd9krEsr-k
>>343921454
this just aint true
>>343922148
of course. Nobody can argue here
>>343922148
>Just literally play a cd track in the background
>It has absolutely no interaction with the gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luv_f817XjU
>>343911830
I totally agree. Also, having 700mb of storage media helps a lot to deliver good graphical assets.
That's the reason why RE2 was so much better on PS1.
Conker's Bad Fury Day is impressive as hell for an N64 game.
>>343917678
>>343917436
n64 also uses Edge Anti-Aliasing which is something like FXAA.
PS1 games had high res textures so obviously it's going to look much better on an emulator that can run on a much higher rez than the PS1 ever could.
>>343911830
>This whole thread
I feel like I've wandered onto a Pacific Island and there are still elderly Japanese soldiers and American Marines fighting one another with shitty rusted equipment.
>>343914904
That's N64?
Emulators gone too far
DS also had those massive improvements on an emu
>>343911830
yep
>>343911830
As much as I love the PS1 and Spyro in particular, you know that's bullshit. Even the images you posted are stitched together by hacks in a manner impossible ingame.
>>343922878
PS1 and N64 are better than any of the feces coming out today.
>>343919743
>1994 vs. 2000
Cool beans.
Who here had divorced parents try to play favorites getting you both PS1 and N64?
The entire 5th generation in general was a fucking mistake.
>>343923294
At least you're admitting the N64 was 6 years ahead of the PSX.
>>343922148
The n64 was capable of better audio quality, it's just that the limits of the cartridge never let it realize that fact.
>>343916359
64MB cartridge was the maximum amount of space, so every texture had to be compressed, some up to a point of unrecognisable
>>343917643
>pixelated look of PS1 textures helped make them more crisp.
t-tell em bro!
>>343915102
But it works in context with the game's universe. There's no moment where you're not either in the fog or in the dark. It's a clever embrace of the limitations of the console.
>>343923513
Hi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnjie2G7_gQ
I have a CRT with S-video for PSX and N64 right next to methey both look like shit still
The N64 has objectively better gramfix but I usually prefer the PSX when it comes to 2D, and pretty much only Nintendo's first party games make good use of the 64's abilities anyway.
>>343924293
>s-video
NTSCfags lol
>>343917678
Quake on the n64 actually let you turn it off and Hexen64 let you turn sprite smoothing off or on.
Then you had other games that made hi res optional.
I miss when games on console would actually let you configure things how did options get worse as time went on and not better?
>>343924561
>25 fps is so cinematic!
>>343911830
First gen 3d < nothing < things
>>343923416
How so
>Feel really nostalgic and melancholic
>See a Spyro thread with all the screenshots
>Decide to replay the trilogy for once
>Remember that I have to emulate again since my old PC died
>Give up and shitpost on 4chan instead
I remember the time when I could've gone through dozen hoops, OS re-install and shamanistic dancing over the course of 4 days all to play one pirated game. I wonder what has changed.
>>343923374
Let me guess...your mom cheated?
>>343921454
It really isn't the case. Whilst you might have Mario 64 and Banjo, you trade away third party games like Oddworld, Final Fantasy and more experimental titles like Vib Ribbon and Ape Escape.
Nintyfag who skipped the N64/PS1 generation and got both around 2002/3. Whilst there are classic titles I keep coming back to on N64 for sure, I play through Banjo every Summer alongside Sunshine, Wind Waker and MGS for example, there's a bigger variety of games I consistently play on PS1, (Exoddus, FFVII, Crash 2/3, CTR, Medievil to name a few)
>>343923374Happened with PS360 for me.
>>343921454
N64 had like what, 10-12 games at most?
>>343923374
Nope. They've been married since their teens. I had to buy my own vidya.
>>343925086
>Oddworld, Final Fantasy
eh
Most people here dont mention the actual gems of the n64 library like Ocarina, Majoras Mask, Banjo 1 + 2, Smash, Mario Kart, Mario Party, Perfect Dark, Mischief Makers, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Conkers Bad Furday, Killer Instinct, Diddy Kong Racing
PS1 had a better library overall in terms of quantity and variety but i don't think its heavy hitters had the quality of n64's big titles
The adage goes that ps1 had a hundred games you wanted to play and n64 had 10 that you couldnt stop playing.
I don't think either side is really right or wrong in terms of which system had a better library
>>343917404
>SNES could not perform 3D calculations natively
It could. Certain magic effects in Chrono Trigger used them.
>>343925037
Nopeblack dad spent too much time with friends, smoking pot.Haven't seen him in 8 years comes back and tries his hardest to win my love. fuck him.
>>343925917
The N64 had knockout titles, I'll give it that. I'd much rather stick in Mario Party 3 than Crash Bash, and still spend hours in Goldeneye MP with buddies.
It's as you said, the standout titles really stood out, but there's much more variety in the PS1 library.
>>343926253
Games like Brave Fencer Musashi tried lots of new things, but in the end, was it more fun than a good ol' platformer? Or was it in fact an attempt of moderate success which was basically ditched after one game?
>>343921348
>jumping cars have no shadows
>>343921454
>n64
>games
kek, shoo shoo back to your OoT and Super Mario 64 nogaems machine.
Is there a better looking PS1 game than Vagrant Story?
Would a N64 in this day and age now that flash storage has become so cheap be superior to the PS1?
You could easily make N64 cartridges today with several gigabytes of storage, meanwhile the PS1 would probably still be stuck with a 700MB Cd-Rom
>>343924992
>drag and drop a .cue file on an exe
>play game
wow that was hard
ITT: People compare art made by random artists to prove that their favorite console is better.
>>343923374
tfw after parents got divorced, both were too poor to buy me or my brothers much of anything. Those were the days when I had to rely on friends and other family members for vidya.
Nintendo had Goldeneye and Perfect Dark to set milestones for console FPS games, made the reloading mechanic mainstream for FPS games. PS1 nor PS2 had any of these (nor GC desu , but that's why I got xbox)
>>343921454
You're a delusional dipshit
>>343926593
Britfag here. What's a shadow?
>>343925917
>Banjo 1 + 2, Smash, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Conkers Bad Furday, Killer Instinct, Diddy Kong Racing
those are all trash though.
>>343927494
>console FPS games
wait is that something people actually like
>>343926021
my dad spent a lot of time smoking pot with his friends and hes still cool
>>343927727
>This console has no games
>What about all these games
>Those suck tho lol
Every fucking thread, every fucking console.
>>343927885
What's not to like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI4QvEh_DTo
>>343928028
Yeah but has he never come home for like a days when you were 3?
>>343928131
Every platform war.
Why are people getting autistic about the screenshots being from emulators?
The only thing that changes is the resolution
>>343925086
What about stuff like Custom Robo, Shiren 2, Mystical Ninja or Space Station Silicon Valley
>>343928458
>I've never used an emulator
>>343922002
Its pretty much PC vs PS4 now, nintendos off doing their own thing and the xboxs exclusives are all coming to PC
>>343928458
>The only thing that changes is the resolution
And color depth/dithering.
>>343928596
What else changes?
>>343927130
that's the point you dumb fuck
ps1 = pepsi
n64 = coke
art > specs
>>343928994
Other way around.
>>343928959
The jittering is really only noticeable if you render the games at HD resolutions. And even then there are plugins to get rid of it.
>>343923797
Best example of this is rogue squadron. Factor 5 developed its own audio driver and compression technique for it. It has some of the most and highest quality voice overs on the system. The music was also very good.
>>343924992
The nostalgia is way better than the games anyway.
>>343929210
It was noticeable as fuck at the time bro.
For the niggers talking shit about the n64 fog, I ll have you know it worked to help make one of the most fun games for the n64, even today. Road Rash 64. When you cant see that truck rendering until its too late, it makes for so many lols
>>343929401
I'm not your bro, pal.
>>343927727
You have shit taste my man
>>343929095
Indeed
>>343927727
You are a faggot who hates fun apparently.
I bet you look forward to the yearly FIFA and CoD games.
>>343928959
kek
>>343918983
N64 Version looks like a mess. The colors are all washed out.
>>343929641
>those hyperbikes
>>343911830
If you like motion sickness from the textures shimmying and shaking all over the place, sure.
N64's games are better though so the point is rather moot.
>>343917848
What.
>>343923374
>divorced
Yeah
>all the vidya
Ha, no. I pined for a Game Boy for years seeing how some of my friends were playing Pokemon. Then my parents and grandparents all got together to get me a GBA on Xmas '01. It's not like any one of them couldn't have afforded it on their own, it was more about how much I was allowed to be spoiled and coddled. Did you really think I was deserving of a Game Boy, games for it AND other shit on top of that? Laughable.
The next year they pulled off the same thing with a PS2. I was both incredibly happy with my gifts but also a little disappointed it wasn't a GameCube. In hindsight my family made the better choice, of course.
prerendered 2d rpg backgrounds aren't graphics
>>343930264
>literal screenshots aren't graphics
>>343917435
>>343915498
Actually some guy extracted the worlds and rendered them or something like that in a world viewer type thing. So it's just the bare worlds with skyboxes rendered at whatever resolution you want. Pretty neat stuff.
>>343930351
Wow! Best graphics ever. And in 1998!
Why do games look worse in 2016?
>>343911925
>those symbols on the wall
Heavily reminds me of Nosgoth's vampire clans, mostly Kain's Empire's clans.
>>343914895
turok 2 and that indiana jones game looked fuckin' great
>>343923374
I had both because we were upper middle class. Barely had any games for them, although I would rent games all the time. Then my parents got divorced and I've been living in poverty for the past 10 years.
>>343926021
just a coincidence. smoking pot has nothing to do with how blacks are incapable of not running out on their families
>>343930351
Sistine Chapel has WAY better graphics than the PS1
>>343930745
>>343930894
holy shit these graphics are so fucking good
>>343930675
Oh yea, so did jet force gemini
>>343931421
Yet it still has shitty perspective correction.
>>343929703
What game is that?
Perspective correct > Affine. This is literally, objectively correct
woah...
>>343931707
Airball in CGA mode.
....this was released in 1997?!
>>343932371
looks like shit honestly
>>343932371
whoah...
>>343916313
Where is saturn?
>>343932589
In the attic.
>>343932589
Saturn was and is still shit. Nothing but a glorified 2D meme box. No one but weebs and fags cared about it.
>MUH JAPANESE IMPORTS
>>343932267
first pc game i remember was that shit on a atari st
dope theme song is dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASOeMRB2tp0
>>343932589
No one owned a Saturn.
>>343911830
N64 hardware( the console itself) >>> Ps1 hardware
...my god.
>>343918145
Man those flight simulators were amazing.
I remember playing that su-27 one and it took me like 2 hours to figure out how to use the missles on ground targets.
Also landing without exploting into million pieces was pretty hard.
Good times.
>>343932371
I kind of miss that style of early CGI cutscenes and prerendered backgrounds.
>>343932779
I wished I had an ST.
I had to make do with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqKEk4ru8XQ
>>343932973
I love those old polygonal simulators. Your imagination filled in the gaps better than a bunch of blocky warping pixelated textures could have.
>>343933489
Nice. Do any of you guys remember USNF 97? That was an amazing flying simulator for the time
>>343923374
I had a GC and a PS2. My dad had an Xbox and a DC
>>343933293
i wish i still had it ;/
>>343911830
Firstly, you're playing a PC emulation with a fuckton of AA and upscaling done. Hardly the point made in your screenshots.
SEcondly, Spyro was IIRC one of the first 3d games ever to implement a LOD engine, which was how they managed to put so much shit into the levels - it's not really a fair comparison to try and say that PS1 graphcs as a whoile were better just because one game had such an innovative piece of software technology in it. Most other games just did the silent hill method where they hid most of the screen from view to let the graphcs that you could see look good.
