>/v/ hates the game because the combat is too difficult
lol
>>343868271
drunken fighting?
it's QWOP: the rpg
if the combat wasn't so stupid nobody would even remember it existed
complex !=/= good
>>343868271
>shit control means its difficult
no
its just shit
>/v/ talks about Exanima at all
lol
>>343869760
>!=/=
what the h*ck?
>>343868271
>/v/ ignores the game because physics-based animation is fucking hideous
>>343868271
I don't hate it, I think it looks sort of interesting
that said, even the name is difficult to say
I got really, really good at the dueling mode, but the controls are absolutely shit tier. The movement never responds the way you want it to, there is no real control over combat. It isn't clunky because it has a steep learning curve, its clunky because its fundamentally flawed.
Other than that there is pretty much nothing to the main game. The lore is super lacking, there aren't many items so there is no real incentive to explore everything, and if you manage to get far enough without dying, you can reach the end in about 40 minutes give or take. It isn't the least bit fleshed out.
The concept of a dark and somber low fantasy game is awesome. Visually it looks like something I'd love, but there just isn't any gameplay to speak of, and this absolutely is one of those titles that will never be finished.
They need to just drop the control scheme all together and start over. Have set buttons for different attacks, and then use the mouse to control swing speed independently. As is, using the mouse for movement, weapon swings, and controlling the camera is just stupid.
>>343870546
steep learning curve means its easy
Player: "Hey I bought this game to support you but I'd like to say that the combat is just too clunky and random to get very far unless you get really lucky. Any chance of adding a save feature so you don't have to lose all your progress or want/need to take a break?"
Developer: "Uhmmmmm nope, the game was intended to be difficult it's not for babies if you can't handle the difficult combat and excellent controls then maybe you shouldn't be playing my games. I am not going to dumb them down for you just because you paid to support development. I make games for me :)"
Yeah.
>>343870992
The combat isn't clunky at all once you get a grip of it. The learning curve just deters everyone because they expect to be overpowered murderhobos from the get go, and aren't used to skill based difficulty.
t. 100+ hours in Exanima.
>>343871663
If that slapfighting was mean to help your case, it didn't do a great job.
>>343871663
That video is the definition of clunky. The player is flailing around like an uncoordinated drunk.
It feels as awful as it looks. I can sit down and beat all the opponents in the arena without issue most of the time, but its sloppy and stupid as shit. Time their strikes, rush forward, then flail around.
The controls are bad. There is no defending them.
>>343871914
How would you do combat in such a heavy physics based game then?
Also, this is literally the first screen you see in the game, and people still complain.
>>343872305
>heavy physics based
>physics have nothing to do with the game at all
>your movements are all slow and awkward as hell no matter what
>not even remotely realistic
>b-b-but muh physics!
You're literally regurgitating the bullshit marketing lines from the scam artist faggot's kickstarter.
It's the purchase I have the most remorse over. I thought the guy was going to improve on the combat when I got it but it's been over a year now.
It's like nobody ever told him he's making a game and if he wants it to sell, there's has to be a balance between challenge and entertainment. Rigidly refusing to add basic things like a saving system because it doesn't fit some artistic(autistic?) vision is as lazy as it is financial suicide. If you want a game that can kill you at any time, you need a way to save progress. Or controls so tight that beginners stand a chance.
Very few people are going to bother getting good at something which is fundamentally dull and offers no payoff in any way, much less pay for it and spend their free time on it.
>>343872541
>physics have nothing to do with the game at all
>Q: Why does my character look like he’s drunk?
>A: Exanima uses motion synthesis; this means movements are created from simulated muscle contractions which take into account momentum, inertia and physics. Motion synthesis allows movements to be dynamic and free-flowing instead of being restricted by predetermined static animations. This means every time you fight someone it plays out in a completely different and unique way.
>Due to the complexity of the system it may take a while to learn how to effectively control your character so the movements may appear a bit strange. However, once you get past the initial learning curve then your movements will become much more fluid and natural looking
>>343872791
The reward is surviving and advancing to a new level with stronger bosses and better gear, different atmosphere and more hidden lore. If that's not an incentive enough to continue playing, then I guess the game isn't for you. But then I'd also call you a scrub and ask you to go back to your 5-button MOBA's or whatever you play.
>>343873508
>literally copypasting the lies straight from the scam artist himself
Are you the developer himself? You'd have to be. No one is this much of a shit eating idiot.
>>343872791
And there is a saving system. There are checkpoints at the beginning of each new level.
>>343873652
>lies
You are absolutely retarded. I refuted your point, and you claim it isn't true. If you'd actually played the game beyond the two or so matches you tried before calling it stupid, you'd realize that the combat actually works like that. You get a 'feel' for it.
>>343873793
Copypasting lies from the scam artist developer isn't refuting anything, shit eating idiot.
>>343873675
It's not a saving system unless it allows players to save when they want to. A checkpoint system is bullshit and an incredibly poor choice design-wise.
>>343873508
>then I guess the game isn't for you
No, I guess it isn't. Shame I can't get my money back and buy a real game instead of this shitty mess.
>Remember seeing this about a year ago
>Seems cool
>Early access
>See this thread on /v/
>Interest revived
>Still on Early Access
Fuck. When is it being released?
>>343873890
>scam artist developers
Where are you even getting this from? I've played the game for over a hundred hours. It's solid, the combat is fluid once you learn it, and there's no annoying cash grab item shop or other microtransactions. They aren't lying, if anything they're more dedicated to the project than 99% of the scam games on Steam Greenlight.
>>343873992
You'd say the same for the Dark Souls bonfires?
>>343868271
I liked the combat. Landing a hard hit feels very satiafying but there is else nothing of value in the game. The single player "campaign" feels more like a tech demo than anything.
>>343874136
Soon(TM)
When it's ready. It's already fun, though, if you stick with it and learn the combat.
>>343874136
Never, because the dev has no idea what he's doing. All he has is a clunky, unfinished drunken wailing simulator without any substance. It's just your typical early access game in the worst possible way.
>>343874184
Not him but
Homeward Bone?
You only lose currency and online(if human)?
No loss in actual progress?
Can still retrieve lost currency?
>>343871663
how can you post that and not think it looks like shit
even runescape looks nicer than this
>>343869814
egg-zah-nima
>>343874141
>even more bullshit defending a scam artist
They made a kickstarter claiming they had a revolutionary game, made by an expert team who were some of the best in the business. They stated that all they needed was a little bit of money to get up off the ground.
All this time later and they still don't have a game with even a finished story. Just an empty tech demo, a piss poor one, that ends abruptly.
The combat never gets "fluid" ever. You're a lying faggot for even bothering to type out something so laughable. Its terrible, and nothing in the game makes use of physics as claimed. All the environmental interactions, which are horribly limited since the game isn't complete and never will be, are lifeless and stale. Exactly what you'd see from something 10 years ago.
A shit tier developer used his already existing pet project to cash in on idiots willing to hand out their money for empty promises. That makes him a scam artist.
I'm sure you'll keep on defending him though, shit eating idiot.
>>343872305
that's some of the most pretentious drivel i've ever read
at least the souls series had the """""difficulty""""" meme spawn from dumb people, this just does it on its own
>>343873508
literally QWOP
>/v/ defends this
>>343868271
I like Exanima, but after playing Dark Messiah iv come to the realization that fun physics based combat doesn't need people to flail around like drunken noodles.
You can have a stiff character and animations, but make it feel more fluid and physics based than it really is by having a lot of physics interactions on top of that.
I feel like Exanima would have benefited from instead of being you manually swinging the weapon, you pressing M1 and having the weapon swing as a set animation but the physics ties into what outcome that is.
>>343874260
>It's already fun, though
It's not, though. It has incredibly narrow appeal and the devs are not going to sell more than a couple hundred copies at most, considering how dismissive, arrogant and delusional they are.
Telling paying customers to "git gud" at your awful shit combat system is a good way to go bankrupt. It's an unknown indie game, it needs to allow non-autistic players to partake too or it will fail.
It already has in some ways.
>>343874453
>weapon wouldn't pierce through cardboard since the swings are so awkward and slow
>enemy crumples and twitches like a typical Havok glich after accelerating downwards faster than anything else in the entire game
Wow look at that super believable physics!
>how casual and retarded complaining about this blatantly are
Man, this only only making it look better. If only it came out of early access so I could bring myself to buy it.
Is it up on pirate sites to try now?
>>343874661
You ok man?
>>343873508
>it's a "developer tries to disguise his clunky combat as 'deep'" episode
/v/irgins don't know about the power of physics based protection.
>>343874946
>one example of a cool thing while the rest of the game looks and plays like shit
how neat
>>343872305
>You are not a hero, you will die and lose all your progress, hope you like getting killed by a zombie chasing you into a door which you need to operate with horrible fucking controls that makes you want to rip your hair out
>Oh and no saving btw
That's alright, I didn't pay for fun anyway. I just need this game for personal validation so I can say I spent hundreds of hours on it and claim it's superb for keeping 99% of potential players away with its pointlessly punishing antics.
>>343874946
>hand sticks out of the box
>>343874724
>Man, this only only making it look better.
Shouldn't you already be able to pay it, being the developer and all?
>>343874946
fucking kek
>>343874995
>literally complaining about a game being punishing
This is the epitome of neo/v/.
This is the SUPERIOR LIMB-BASED COMBAT of the RPG world.
>waah I want handholding in all my games!
The amount of scrub butthurt in this thread is amazing.
>>343875082
>still defending a shit game with clunky, slow controls
>acting like getting good at controlling a frozen turd attached to a lego with a motor is an accomplishment
>>343875118
>"scrubs!!!!!!!!"
>posts pepe
the lack of self awareness is astounding
>>343874994
You still here? Staying to save the retards who think this game is good? What are you, jesus?
I mean look at this shit.
>>343875243
Well, it is in this game. That's the whole premise.
In the end it is, and always will be, drunken stumbling simulator.
Sure it's fun for a few minutes but it loses it charm real quick and since there's nothing else to it except showcasing the laughable "physics" combat, it ends up one of those titles you never play again afterwards (though some desperately try to justify their purchase by stating how much time they've spent on it and how great it is - also funny, but in a sad way)
What's even more sad is that the combat is unintentionally funny, the guys making it really think it looks good and that it's precisely like real-world combat. They say they were planning to do an entire RPG game using said physics as the base for it. Considering regular RPG's are already niche market at this point, it's almost chilling to imagine how badly a real game made with this combat system would flop.
>>343875395
>game is early access
>complains about bugs
>in an advanced, scratch made engine
Get a look at this guy.
>>343875243
>moving the goalposts
You were /literally/ complaining about it being punishing, anon. That is not a bad thing unless you're a fucking casual piece of shit who doesn't belong on this board.
>>343875486
>'you'
>specifically referring to me as the poster, which i am not
realize that there's more than just me and my asshole shitting on this garbage game
>>343875483
It's clearly shit, that's why I spent all my time taking webms all the way at the end messing around with it.
I believe the v-term is "enjoying shit".
>>343871663
>>343874734
how can i make these webms? i want to show people that this game is fun
>>343875483
>still trying to sell his shitty game on /v/
Get a look at this guy.
>>343875661
record yourself playing a different, better game and say you're playing exanima
>>343875483
>game in early access since 29 Apr, 2015
>updates once every four-five months
>only draw is the hilarity of the characters flailing and falling over their own feet
Yeah, I actually think complaining about this vaporware is warranted.
>>343875641
Are you honestly 12?
>>343868271
console version when?
this is one of the few pc games that intrigues me
>>343875483
plenty of other early access games managed to not be complete and utter shit
just look at subnautica (even if it scares the shit out of me)
>>343875607
The point stands.
Trying to invalidate point A by stating "Wow but point B, how could you ever have any positive points about thing" is retarded, anon.
>>343875661
3mb webms can't show any sort of nuance in the combat so don't bother on the chans. Even zoomed in fully it's just a blurry mess.
Either go offsite or stream it in 1080.
>>343875750
Have anyone said "yes" to that question yet? Are YOU 12?
Keep bumping the thread tho.
>>343875761
"the point stands?" you're asking me to respond to a rebuttal for an argument i didn't even make, you chucklefuck
this thread is fucking horrible so i'm going to post equally horrible bara
Average play time is 2.4 hours, then people never touch it again.
Majority of game owners have never made it to the first checkpoint.
It's a shame the people making this are completely oblivious to what the majority wants/needs to enjoy their game. It could be fun if it wasn't aimed at autistics. Oh well, it's their funeral.
>>343870546
>>343874136
>>343874260
Exanima isn't a game in itself, it's a prologue/teaser/tech demo for a much larger game. It will never be 'finished' because they're working on Sui Generis as the full release. I don't know why they put it on Early Access in the first place, it was meant to be a one-off download for backers but I guess it got really popular so they decided to put it on Steam.
The concept for the full game is actually really interesting, it's designed so that there's no reloading; when you die you respawn magically but the world doesn't change, so dead characters will stay dead and there's no way back if you fuck something up. I think it's meant to be like New Vegas where you can kill absolutely anyone without breaking the choice-based quest system. Again, no idea if the devs will actually deliver since the Kickstarter was years ago but I'm hoping we get something better than Exanima out of it.
>landing a perfect overhead hit with a greatsword that drops your opponent to his knees
fuck that's some good shit
>>343875754
Jesus...
>>343876115
I actually feel like it would be better if it was ported to consoles because they'd be forced the make the combat more streamlined and intuitive to work with the analogue sticks.
>>343876052
>no idea if the devs will actually deliver since the Kickstarter was years ago
They will. Everything the implement in Exanima is to test the mechanics before using it in Sui Generis. The Arena mode that we got in the last update was to check UI and shop functionality.
>>343876519
you mean the SUIte life of zack and GENERIES
>Not enjoying finding better loot in each chest and become increasingly impervious to lethal damage
>Not enjoying ambushing zombies, killing them in one overhead, in a trap, by prolonged combat of putting chairs and shit in their path mid-combat or just pushing them into a infinite pit
>AI gets better the deeper you go
>Big ass monster you can beat legit by "abusing" the physics or just luring it down a hole
>Building makeshift bridges and having rickety rangly fights on them
>Ducking under swings, increasing swing speed with crouch, hitting on the backswing, feinting, stabbing faces or toes, suddenly rushing a unbalanced opponent with your fat dwarf so he falls over and can be wrecked easily
It's great because you can get better and have more control but as usual the average virgin can't deal with it and dismiss it as drunk combat rng throw the mouse across the table bullshit.
>>343876891
implying you are actually this good at qwop simulator and you're not the dev
>>343876891
I don't get it either. I've advanced to the point where I can deliver two trusts and an overhead swing with a two handed sword in less that two seconds without stepping over my own toes. I still have a lot to learn, but the learning curve is just so satisfying.
>>343868271
it's alright
>>343877045
Yes, anon. /v/ is a multi million user board that sways business practices and changes core foundations at a whim. Devs flood into the board to get experienced gamer feedback on their games and ofc for making extreme hype with "screenshots" that look like nothing ever seen before without any sign of users calling it fake.
Such is the power of 4chan/v. Just look at gamergate.
>>343877305
>4chan was singlehandedly responsible for gamergate
nice bait though
>>343868271
Oh fuck yeah an Exanima thread. How the fuck do I kill this fucker?
>>343877768
Spike trap.
Or poleaxe + lots and lots of dodge.
>>343877837
I forgot to equip my armour wearing skills on that character so I got fucked. I ran into him straight away at level 3 so I couldn't even find a poleaxe.
I guess I better just git gud.
>>343877768
he cornered me in a bathroom and i slashed at him repeatedly with overheads and horizontals and stabs too, just gotta pray he doesn't knock you out
>>343877971
I had like 6 points in encumbrance so I barely had the time to leave the room I was in before getting knocked out over and over again.
The combat is pretty fun, what isn't fun is the extremely grindy aspect of the arena game and the bareboneness of the campaign. Die By The Sword implemented the same ideas years ago and didn't have it near as clunky AND it was 3D. Because it's early access shit you can already tell this will never be completed the way you'd imagine a game like that.
>>343877837
Spike trap? Where? All I know is a infinite hole.
>>343877940
Try removing armor as he barely gives a fuck about it with his attacks anyway. Just keep a chest and a helmet for when he pats you on the back as you lay down. I've had limited success in odd corners while ducking and hacking away.
If you get the monsters attention the skeletons will help you kill it but only until he switches aggro to them. When that happens they just run again. In any case, just run from everything until an opportunity arises.
>>343878309
That's the hole I meant.
>>343874453
>BEGONE BEAST
>>343871663
you spent 100 hours and THAT is all you got to show for it
I can accept the combat being goofy looking for the sake of fun but
>early access
Such a shame.
>>343874661
>enemy crumples and twitches like a typical Havok glich after accelerating downwards faster than anything else in the entire game
It is trying not to fall into the pit
>>343879440
Give it a pirate.
>>343880051
When it's done. I don't play early access games in the same way I don't read first drafts of novels or work prints of movies.
>>343877305
>multi million user board
No, not really.
There are a couple hundred people on /v/ at most at any given time
It's fun but not fun enough for a physics based game.
If you are gonna make physics based combat. You gotta add shit like kicks, shoves and grapples.
The most satisfying thing to do in this game is shoulderbash some cunt up against a wall and hammer his head in while he tries to get in
>>343880343
Fair enough. It's fleshed out enough to enjoy the core gameplay, though.
>>343880591
AFAIK, they'll be adding that along with dismemberment.
>"buy our early access game, we promise it'll get better"
>it never gets better
>can't refund because too long since original purchase
Fuck you.
>>343880408
Does there exist a symbol for irony via text? I understand you thought me serious since this is /v/ so I thought I'd ask.
>>343881357
yeah us ethis --> :^)
>>343880791
Are you aiming this at Exanima? It has had some significant updates since release.
I'll also say what has already been said, Exanima is basically a tech demo for Sui Generis, the devs actual full game they are working on. Don't expect any kind of complete release of Exanima as it will never exist.
>>343881497
Too on the nose for my taste. I guess I'll just post images with "irony" somewhere in the filename.
>>343881509
>actual full game they are working on
Sure thing.
Holy shit, this only cements the fact that /v/ is full of underage faggots, go git gud
>>343871663
Great looking flash game you got there
You know what an Early Access game that has regular substantial updates actually looks like? From The Depths.
>>343881858
I miss old /v/. They'd fawn over this game.
Where to discuss vidya like that in this day and age?
>>343883383
/vr/
>>343883383
>They'd fawn over this game.
People said that this has clunky ass combat from the very first threads
>>343883624
Fuck off with the clunky combat meme. git gud
>>343883772
>n-noo g-g-g-gi-git g-gu-gud....i-its f-f-flaw-flaw-flawle-flawless...
>w-waah...
torrented the game and completed the arena mode once, the game is fucking QWOP tier garbage that is fun for 20 minutes
saying that the game gets better when you "get good" is equally retarded as saying that eating shit is actually fun if you learn to swallow it whole
