So when is this fat asshole getting nerfed? I see him EVERY GAME now
Infinity-billion health and fast as fuck self-healing. Unless you specifically pick one of his counters, you are ineffectual against him.
>>343837202
He's a walkingcuteult feeding machine. He has no mobility at all.
>>343837202
Get good.
Keep your distance, idiot. And punish him when he runs off to heal.
I just want his fucking hook nerfed, seriously tired of it following me around multiple corners, hitting me from 2-3 meters away, nearly killing me on its own and only taking 6 seconds to cool down.
>>343837809
when i used to play dota 1, the hook had like 14 sec cd
>hook can literally break through walls and hit you
I'm so fucking tired of this shit
>>343837472
Hard to keep my distance when his hook has half a mile range.
>>343838078
Never happened to me...
>>343838078
>>343837809
If the hook hits you you can still move for a sec and if you move behind a corner it will still pull you
Somebody has to kill Tracer and Genji now that McCree's generally useless for that job.
>>343838078
no, he pulled you around a corner
He hooked you before you dipped behind it
>>343837202
His hookshot basically means he has no counters though unless whoever is playing is AFK so you can get more than one shot at em from a distance.
>>343838078
I'm pretty sure this only happens if the hook is already connected and then you move behind a wall
>>343838078
The guy hit you squarely from his perspective, but due to latency you had already moved a fair ways before you got the update.
>Roadhog hooks our healer
>Shield
>50 percent charge
>Wreck his asshole inside out
>unless you specifically pick one of his counters
So exactly what are you waiting for, you retard? You aren't supposed to main heroes in overwatch.
Just pick zarya, genji, reaper, or play reinhardt and save everyone from him
or just keep your distance and get free ultimate charge because hes not actually op.
just pick 76 against him the next time you see him, and you will be glad they are playing roadhog. You will constantly ult and kill the team.
Stop whining and switch heroes you shitter. This isnt an assfaggot moba, you don't lock in characters. Push the H key once in a while.
By just crying on reddit and 4chan for nerfs instead of being s team player, you are just part of the problem.
>>343838595
>i go around a corner
>get hooked, travel through almost 2 walls and end up straight on him
>see someone running for corner
>hook them
>the wall stops them in their tracks and denies me the hook
>>343838078
thats 20 tick rate and "prefer the shooter" shit for you
honest to god its pretty disgusting how they can just laugh off making 60 tick standard in this when so many kills and damage just does not happen on your screen
I cant count the amount of times that I pharah jump blast into the air only to die all the way up there from damage my screen didnt even pick up on the ground.
that mixed with the balancing issues and map issues,
I dont want to give up on this shit but if they dont fix any of this shit soon im probably going to count my losses on this 40$
>>343837202
Literally choose any Offensive class. They can call out DPS his healing.
>>343837202
He has no advanced movement options. If he gets away when you start attacking, that's your fault, especially if his team isn't right on your ass. He almost always has to choose between reloading and healing, and if you pin him down doing the latter when he also needs the former, he's fucked PLUS you get a ton more charge for your ult.
>>343838590
>kill tracer and genji often as mcree
>read this post
>>343838771
Fucking savage.
>>343838590
what the fuck are you talking about mcree is still the best counter for those guys.
>>343839057
Proficient Tracers should always be outside of flash range and juking headshots. Good Tracers will be baiting your flash. Doesn't matter if you flash Genji; he can escape before headshots or fan the hammer kill him.
>>343838771
this senpai,
stop making threads op
>>343838590
>Assblasted shitter who thinks McCree should be able to melt talks
>>343838078
>play reinhardt
>approaching chokepoint
>walk with sheild in preparation for damage blocking
>teammates run past the sheild instead of waiting and get hooked or headshot
>>343839294
>be tracer outside of flash range
>doing single digit damage and generally being useless
???
>be genji
>get flashed
>die
at what point of that can he escape before fan the hammer kills him?
The only thing that needs to be nerfed is his heal. Its too fast and the cooldown is really short.
Maybe make it so it heals much slower overtime or he takes increased damage when hes inhaling it.
Roadhog is fine. Yeah it sucks getting pulled and one-shot, but other characters would be broken if he wasn't around. Reaper counters him hard.
>People think that you shouldn't have to counter-pick
Lel.
>play Zarya
>"FIRE IN THE HOLE"
>see Tire barreling towards me and my Mercy
>barrier Mercy, Barrier myself
>Tire explodes
>100% Charge
>Proceed to shit on the entire enemy team
>give kills to my friendly Soldier76, Genji, and Reaper
>>343839609
Tracer will still kill McCree in 2 mags from outside flash range. Or just move on to someone else.
>>343838771
Objectively right
OP is just bad at video games and should hang himself with his Logitech keyboard.
>>343839687
If he didnt have his heal he'd be BEYOND worthless as a tank.
Hes already the worst tank as it is.
>>343837202
The most broken part about Roadhog is the Scrap Gun
Never mind it being one of the most damaging short range guns in the game (Able to one shot a majority of the cast), but it also comes with a quick reload, a free enabler (Hook) and a mid-range alt fire.
That sorta shot gun works fun on someone like reaper, who's about 350 hp squishier with no activated healing
Give it to road hog who can pretty much kill anyone before they can kill him, and its a problem
>>343839878
What? His reload speed is awful and it only has 4 shots and it gives zero long road options and the alt fire is not easy to aim right.
>>343839609
Flash only lasts .7 seconds. Fan the hammer takes an entire second. However, there is a delay so by the time you start the fan you'll only have .5 seconds of flash left, which is 3/6 shots of fan before your opponent can react.
If Genji mashes E with a furious force, he can come out of the flash and deflect, causing your remaining 3 shots to hit you in the face. So Genji now has 40 HP left and you have 65. Genji dashes through you for 50 and now it's a matter of who hits the other first because a single hit from either of you spells death for the other.
It's honestly safer to flash him, then shoot him once in the head and wait for him to do his deflecting shenanigans before firing at him again.
>>343837202
>unless you counter, you can't counter
is this a meme?
>>343839609
Hold reflect. Unless McCree was close to point blank, or lined up and clicked headshot within 200ms after flashing, he'll get out.
Roadhog's the best anti-flanker now because his combo does better burst and has more range.
>>343839853
People dont pick him to play a tank they pick him cuz he has the ability to one shot literally every hero easily. Hes a support tank if anything
>>343838940
Every match I die at least once when I was behind a wall on my screen and killcam shows them shooting me directly in the face
Gettin real tired of it
>>343839853
>Worst tank
The fuck are you smoking
He's tied 1st along Rein and Zarya
Meanwhile D.va is in the dumpster
The thing is, Tank is such a loosely defined role in overwatch. The only running theme is lots of health and survival options
Rein is a push god
Zarya is more of a rushing skirmisher and to fuck people with burst damage
Roadhog is just a fat fuck that draws fire because he can realistically instakill anyone within range and sight of his hook.
Which is awkward, because when his specialty is killing on top of being tanky, he's essentially just an offense character with a fuckton of health.
Thats a problem
>>343840139
He cant oneshot Lucio, D.VA, Winston, Reaper is tricky, Reinhardt, Zarya, Mei for some reason, Bastion, or other Roadhog.
>>343839294
>Proficient Tracers should always be outside of flash range
mcree has a roll for this exact reason
>>343840356
It takes 3 shots to kill roadhog as a roadhog. If I'm able to do that then I'm sorry their team is just that bad.
This thread is dumb and people are bad at games is the problem.
>>343840021
>It only has 4 shots
>It can only kill 4 people before you need to reload
Golly how does Roadhog manage with so little firepower
>0 long road options
The range on hook and his alt fire is fairly generous and the fact that he has no ultra long range (Really only Widow, Hanzo and to a lesser extent 76 and Genji's domain) options is a blessing to stop him dominating every range
>Alt fire is not easy to aim right
Your badness is not relevant in hero balance
As Junkrat, Roadhog is my favourite person for the other team to pick. Big, slow lumbering target that I can actually hit with grenades, through aiming. And he can't do shit about it.
More Roadhogs, please.
>>343838771
I actually had some shitter give me shit for having almost equal amounts of time on each character (while """"maining"""" Hanzo and sucking fucking balls). Why are people so fucking bad at this game?
>>343840356
>He can oneshot anybody but the other tanks, Bastion and Reaper if Reaper gets lucky.
Wow amazing.
>>343840689
>Trashmouse
Yeah, we get it. You like to play the "I just fuckin held M1 and spun around for free kills" guy.
>>343840356
>He cant oneshot lucio
Yes he can
>Reaper
Again, yeah he can
>Mei
Mei and reaper have the same amount of health. Same story
>Bastion
Again, he can.
So that essentially leaves the tanks. And Roadhog with the most hp, and you can kill him in a hook + 2/3 shots depending on how hard you headshot him.
>>343840629
>dude in chat saying "nerf the hook" right before dying
10/10
>>343840876
Lucios hitbox is too small.
>>343838078
>hook someone
>they get stuck behind a wall
>hook someone
>they get pulled to the left or right of me
>hook someone
>they get pulled through me
Why is the hook so fucking glitchy?
>>343840817
I like to play the "perfect fucking Tank Counter" guy, yes. Sorry that you wandered like a dense twat into my trap, ate a concussion mine, and then swallowed three grenades on the way back down.
I apologise that you're bad.
>>343840936
This always happens when I hook a genji, slippery fucker ends up being behind me when I hook him everytime.
>>343840817
Junkrat is a tank destroyer you baby. People that get triggered by him should stop playing because you will never be good
Itt: baddies who dont know what countering is because they main
>>343840817
Luck has nothing to do with it
He still one shots bastion AND reaper if he hits them right
No headshots his gun deals 225 damage under perfect conditions, meaning headshots take that up to 450. -5 either way on bastion coz of armour. So 220 if bad shot, and 445 if perfect.
+ 25 from hook, and thats 245 damage from shittiest shot, and 470 from best. More than enough to kill bastion
And considering that reaper has 50 less hp and no armour, that should tell you possible it is to oneshot reaper.
Besides the fact you wont need to oneshot bastion anyway. Once you've hooked him you've already won the fight because he's no longer a threat to roadhog outside of turret form
>>343840921
It isnt. Go test it out right now
Look at >>343840629
Tracer, hanzo, genji, all skinny with smaller hitboxes. All dead
>>343840967
>Easyrat players try to defend themselves this hard
Junkrat is so brainless you can do damage or even get kills M1ing down a chokepoint with your camera tilted up.
>>343840967
>rein walks into trap
>just stare at each other for 5 seconds through his shield because we can't do shit to each other
I always throw in a "g'day" when I can
>>343840689
>>343841220
If Roadhog hooks Junkrat, junkrat dies every single time, without question. And due to Roadhog's huge health pool, he wont die to sudden surprise grenades like the other 150-200 hp heroes do.
Ima give this one to Streetpig as the better hero in terms of a 1v1
>>343841230
Sorry you keep dying to grenades. I shall offer you genuine, helpful advice:
Stop blindly wandering into chokepoints.
>>343841394
I don't know what the 1v1 outcome would be with all being equal, but I never lose a 1-on-1 with a Roadhog if we're both aware of each other when it begins.
Only way I die to him is if his hook sneaks up on me, which I think is sort-of the point of him.
>>343837202
Have you ever watched the Overwatch trailer? It is so cringe and LITERALLY made for kids.
If you are older than 10 you are not the targeted audience.
>>343841230
>Le honurabur pray meme
Kill yourself. You change characters to counter and win. Stop maining hanzo you faggot.
>>343840967
Don't even get me started on your stupid ass concussion mine.
Stupid fucking asshole and his FREE get out of jail, instant-cast nuke.
Faggot can literally drop one around a corner, launch you in to the trap and ANOTHER concussion mine to the face.
Fuck Trashmouse.
>>343841220
I'm not complaining about memekoala as a tank player.
I'm complaining as a "Playing everything" player.
Fuck Junkrat. He's too fucking easy for fuck all risk.
>>343839294
>juking hitscan
>while tickling mccree outside of flash range
Sure
>>343841527
>lowest skill ceiling player telling others how to play
>>343838608
>>343838415
>>343838174
>>343838078
>>343837809
You can counter his hook as lucio with sonic blast after he pulls you in
>>343841643
Okay, well, I hope you take it on board, so that you die less to Junkrat. I hope you can improve.
Good luck.
>>343838771
This so much. I mean usually I play Junkrat at beginning of the game(if tank and support are taken) since he is a very versatile character and a character I'd like to think Im good at. Though if the enemy team has something that the team cant deal with, say a lucio, I'll switch to Mcree to help out.
This is a game like tf2 where you are supposed to be able to switch Hero's on the fly.
>>343841602
You don't need to juke body shots, you can react to those with a rewind then blink away. Clicking a strafing, blinking Tracer in the head is pretty hard.
>>343840629
The range on his ult fire is not fucking generous. For it to do ANYTHING it needs to detonate at point blank range. A little bit further and you're lucky to do 50 damage. Further than that and it's a waste of ammo. It's best for killing stationary shitters like that Hanzo, comboing into a hook or melting Rein shields.
>>343841752
>I mean usually I play Junkrat
Fuck off.
>>343841527
You dont need to sneak up to a Junkrat to hook him though. You dont have to with anyone.
You both see each other. Roadhog aims at you, hooks. If the hook connects, you are getting pulled in with 170 hp after the hook, and you are not living
What could junkrat have done in that time to live?
Shooting wont do anything damage to kill
Bear trap wont do anything
Mine is your only possible out, you could use it to jump away and avoid the hook, but he can still hook you in mid air. And its not like you can mine him point blank after he hooks you, you'd die before the mine can even come out
>>343841717
This and also switching to speed boost and jumping backward when you stop being pulled helps a lot of the time
>>343841717
Or with genji, with either a deflect or a swift strike, the swift strike typically works better though, and your deflect is more valuable.
>>343841717
Any escape works too if you hit it before he shoots
Getting hooked isn't an instant death
>>343838861
Fucking this. I don't understand, this just happened to me last night multiple times--I hooked people as they ran around a corner and the wall stopped them from being pulled any further.
I don't know how many times I've been pulled through walls, and it even show you getting pulled through the wall on their fucking kill cam.
>>343838174
Fucking this
The range on it is bullshit
>>343841795
>It's best for killing stationary shitters like that Hanzo
Targets dont have to be stationary for you to shoot them anon
Thats just if you cant aim
>>343841823
Well, the way it usually goes is we see each other, he goes for the hook, misses because I don't stand still very long as Junkrat, I chase after him in the four second cooldown I have and land a lot of easily aimed grenades on his head.
I rarely get caught by the hook if I know it's coming, because Junkrat's very mobile. Bit like Pharah, really. It's hard to hook her in, too.
>>343840876
Even tanks.
He can hit you for ~300 with hook, M1 melee combo.
And then you're stuck on ~200 health against his whole team and 3 more shots from him.
His hook is way too swingy.
>>343841227
>his gun deals 225 damage under perfect conditions, meaning headshots take that up to 450. -5 either way on bastion coz of armour. So 220 if bad shot, and 445 if perfect
>-5 either way on bastion coz of armour. So 220 if bad shot, and 445 if perfect
Nigga it takes 5 off every pellet until the damage passes the armor.
What's the best way to deal with reaper? Most annoying fucker in the game as someone who likes to play tanks.
>>343841818
Nah fuck you. Junkrat is great
>>343842196
That's the problem.
Junkrat's too fucking good.
>>343842008
True, but Hog's a lot less likely to get the damage off if they're running away from him, which you should be doing at ALL times unless you're a hard counter. If you're still dying at that point you're just getting outplayed.
>>343841818
Stay salty lmao
>>343842174
Play Zarya. She's the only tank that doesn't die in two seconds to him.
>>343842196
>I have no skill or aiming abilities in a game with an already low skill ceiling: the character
>>343842174
Distance is your friend m8
>>343842174
Tracer runs circles around Reaper
Roadhog's hook eats Reaper
Egyptian lesbian Samus can blow up Reaper
Junkrat can blow up Reaper
>>343840629
He has his counters
>>343841953
you literally can't hit the escape before he shoots.
You are stunned for too long.
Your only hope is that he fucks up his shot or that the pellets decide to magically avoid your hitbox for the most part AND THEN if you have a mobility/gtfo button you can try to use it to not get gutted by his followup shots.
Basically the only reliable way to not get one shot by hook combo is to have the hook fuck up and not place you right in front of him. Or play a small hitbox character with an escape ability.
>>343842285
>every character should play like soldier 76.
You're an idiot.
>>343842072
>Misses because I dont stand stiil very long as junkrat
Ima stop you right there anon. You realise the hook is hitscan right? If the roadhog is good, and you're in hook range: You're getting hooked. Thats the long and skinny of it
You have no say in it other than baiting the roadhog into missing
>>343841227
Whenever I get hooked as Lucio I never fail to push them away in time to save me.
>>343842174
Keep your disrance
Or hope your team has a 76, Mcree, or another Reaper to deal with him
>Play Reaper
>Shoot somebody 10ft away
>0 damage
>Fight Reaper
>Shooting me from 15ft away
>Die in 3 shots
>>343838078
>Constantly get pulled through walls by enemy Roadhog
>When playing Roadhog I pull people who get stopped by walls all the time
Bugs me more than it should
Also
>Pull a Genji
>He lands behind me letting him get away
>>343839812
Yeah if you stand there, bend over, and present your asshole for her. Every single map in this game has so many avenues for breaking line of sight and forcing people to follow you into closer quarters.
>>343842487
>Play Roadhog
>have to be in hugging range to even hit somebody
>Fight Roadhog
>can get sniped from across the map
>>343842451
You must be retarded to come to that conclusion from what I said, or a desperate junkrat player.
>>343842389
Yeah
Other Roadhogs and Zarya
>>343842590
He has 2 attacks. 1 short and 1 mid range
>>343842471
You can if you have sonic blast up. If you dont he can one shot you though, thats the point.
>>343842645
Reaper is the counter for all tanks but Zarya. Reaper also survives the hook combo.
>>343842346
>tracer
Tracer gets hooked and dies. The only real way to play versus roadhog is to keep your distance from him, which is absurdly long with that hook's range
Or stay behind barriers provided by other tanks.
>>343842641
Junkrat serves his purpose on a team. I rarely play him but you sound assblasted that you can't figure out how not to get btfo by him.
>>343842645
Rein and winston do too.
By stopping his retarded hooking with barriers.
>>343842586
So she moves on because it's not a 1v1 game and you're no longer a target of opportunity. Thus you failed the anti-flanker role.
>>343841818
HOOLEY
>In this thread Shitters trash talking two balanced Australian characters.
everyone in here is either a assblasted DPS or a Crying Tank that doesn't play Roadhog.
>>343842828
Junkrat is good and Junkrat is a great pick for defense and even offense at times. I never said otherwise.
What I said is that Junkrat is by far the easiest and most brainless to use character in an already easy game and to say otherwise is pure denial.
>>343842645
Shit I kill roadhogs for laughs as Genji
>>343842989
They're all brainless you ninny. Holyfuck. Stop being a little bitch.
>The two Aussie cunts are the most braindead characters to play in the game, and are incredibly easy.
It's like they were built for their audience.
>>343842746
Reaper doesnt necessarily survive the hook combo. We went over this: No headshot a point blank roadhog blast deals 225. + 30 from hook = dead reaper.
The hook isnt even necessary if part of the shot is a headshot.
And I find zarya is really easy to kill with reaper once you've gotten more comfy with him. You just shoot at them, wait for the barrier to pop, hold off the m1, then finish them off.
Her xbox hueg hitbox doesnt do her any favours against Reaper's shotties and her gun doesnt do enough damage to threaten you away while she's shielded.
When you really have the upperhand/they're going full pussy and just turning around and running with shield bubble up you can just break through the shield and finish her off without waiting.
Sometimes you can do that even when they're fighting back, if they're on low health beneath the barrier
>>343842869
Thats very true actually, their barriers do block the hook
>>343838771
Damn right. I truly don't understand people REFUSAL to switch characters for the good of the team.
I play Roadhog and got good with him because people REFUSE to play tank for some fucking reason.
>On attack
>one person left to pick their character
>TIP: NO TANK HEROES
>pick Hanzo
NO TANK HERO
>>343843283
Reaper is more brainless
>>343843185
They all at least take more effort and skill than Junkrat, even if it's not much. I don't know why Junkrat players get so offended by this fact. No one's saying you're useless.
>>343843147
>Bait deflect
>Hook
>Dead Genji
Goes both ways
>>343843362
Not even remotely.
>>343843362
Soldier too, and bastion, and Mei kinda.
>>343843293
Reaper's hitbox is too small for the after-hook shot to kill him, and he has enough time to get away using wraith mode after hooked. This happens to me literally 100% of the time and I can do this 100% of the time I play Reaper against a Roadhog.
>>343843362
Reaper played properly takes a lot more sense
All the characters do
Its just that heroes like roadhog, junkrat, mei, winston etc. can just be played like a drooling moron and still get kills by virtrue of how the hero works.
Doesnt mean they dont have a good skill ceiling
Well except maybe Winston. His skill ceilings pretty low
Seagull considers Roadhog the ultimate soloqueue hero to play with Zarya second. Double Roadhog or Roadhog Zarya is who he says duoqueues should play. Tell me exactly how hes balanced.
>>343843359
Everyone wants to get PoG and have a billion damage because thats perceived as being a valuable player. It's fucking annoying.
>>343843359
The only real main tank in the game is Rein.
Roadhook is kind of a big fat ultimate charger for the other team.
>>343843359
I wait around to see who my teammates pick, and if I'm the last one left and both tank and support haven't been picked I leave.
>>343843506
>Hit box is too small
When will this meme die. No it isnt
Look at >>343840629
Did any of those skinny fucks look like their hitbox was "too small"?
Go actually play the game. I've been oneshot by roadhogs as reaper before without even being hooked. Just a casual shot in the head as I get close to deal damage to him
>>343842989
>>343842869
>Rein, Winston, Zarya.
Nope A good Roadhog will ALWAYS kill the opposing enemy teams tank.because Roadhog is a Tank for Competent Teamates/Teams.The Deadliest combination in the game is a Reinhart and Roadhog on the same team.
>>343843391
Yeah for bad Genji players, I rarely get grabbed by the hook, and if I do I swift strike my ass right out. It's all about keeping up close with roadhogs, I kill them at least 70% of the time.
>>343843621
I totally agree. I've come to find that when I play roadhog our most successful teams have been when I was a secondary tank behind Rein or Zarya
>>343843583
>A streamer/some random comp player's word is law
People were right. As soon as McCree was nerfed shitters found something new to latch on to. And once Roadhog is made useless like McCree was they'll move on to cry about a new class until everyone isn't fun to play.
>>343843685
>>343843506
To add:
No you cant wraith form out after hook before dying unless latency gives you a get out of jail free card. His shot will register before you go into wraith form and kill you, even if you hold down your wraith form hotkey
Overwatch is supposed to have more heroes being added in the future. How many is too many? When should Blizzard stop adding more? Will they just spread them out over very long periods of time?
>>343843685
Reaper does not get killed by Roadhog's hook. Period. At full health he will always live it if he wraith modes immediately. Feel free to show proof otherwise.
>>343843778
>I rarely get grabbed by the hook
Its hitscan. Its like saying you rarely get shot by widow
If you aren't getting it by it you're playing against bad hogs/widows
The point isnt "Can I dodge it"
Its "Can I bait him into throwing it while I have reflect up" or jumping in on him while its on cooldown
>play roadhog
>hook someone
>they get pulled 5 meters away from me
>scrap gun tickles them before they walk off
Why is it so fucking inconsistent? Am I just a laggy fuck?
>it's another "i see this character a lot now NERF HIM" thread
>>343843698
>Reinhardt pushes with his shield up
>Roadhog picks an enemy and pulls him in with his hook
>If Roadhog doesn't wipe out the enemy with the first shot, the rest of the team pounces them
>All the while Reinhardt's shield prevents anyone from touching Roadhog during this or Zarya from applying any shields
>And if anyone tries to push past Reinhardt Roadhog can just shotgun them
I wish I could play double tank or double support more often but everyone just wants to be Hanzo and switches away the moment I pick a tank/support.
>>343843780
Psh, Mccree was practically nerfed.
>>343842989
>Junkrat is a great pick for defense
but he's shit though for defense. his splash damage is so pitiful you just feed the enemy healer's ult and ricocheting grenades is completely useless.
>What I said is that Junkrat is by far the easiest and most brainless to use character
but his primary is far by one of the hardest to use in the game effectively if you use it in direct combat.
>>343840936
>hook reaper
>25% chance he actually gets hooked and dies
>25% chance lucky ticks gets his wraith form off before you shoot
>50% chance he gets pulled beside you and is now in perfect range to annihilate your butthole in 2 shots
>>343840876
if you die to roadhog as mei, you're fucking bad
>>343843938
>Its hitscan
No it isn't. It's a projectile.
Is doing massive damage with direct hits with Junkrat's nades one of the most satisfying things in the game?
Plus trapping bitches for days since nobody but other Junkrats check for traps on point.
>>343843619
It's almost as if it's a casual game and people play for themselves, not for "the team"
>>343841717
>>343841901
>>343841908
>>343841953
Wrong on all counts. As Roadhog, you can hold click while an enemy is hooked to instantly shoot after your target is hooked. This falls under the "prefer shooter" clause, since there is 1 frame of action after the hook animation ends.
tl;dr: If you hook someone, and both you and he hold the button for their next action once hook animation ends, the Roadhog that hooked ALWAYS gets priority.
t. Jeff Kaplan
I don't remember which thread it was where he stated this, but it was stated by Jeff himself, and is working as intended. Most Roadhogs don't know this, though...
>>343843889
I dont have proof in the form of a webm or anything, only my own experience of the game
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745046241
Thats a forum thread discussing the fact that he does one shot you and you cant wraith form out of it.
If you could, tracers could recall out of it
The only times you're able is if the Roadhog is bad and doesnt have his M1 queued up to go off the split second hook ends (Or he's lagging). And because the game is favour the shooter in terms of latency, you die if his client registered him shooting you.
>>343843827
Ive never died to Roadhog after hook as Reaper ever and always Wrath out of it. 6 hours on Reaper.
>>343843938
Like I said, even when I get grabbed a majority of the time I don't get killed, and the gap is closed and I go to town. It's actually fairly easy to do for most tanks, the only one I have a hard time with is winston, you must play against bad genjis
>Uses a shotgun made out of scrap
>Rides a motorcycle
>Smooth accent
>Fat
Roadhog is the most American Hero.
>>343844198
Hitting a flying Pharah with the nades is great fun
>>343844156
It isnt. Go test it.
Hence why it drags round corners. Because the hit scan registered hitting you when you were closer on his client, but on your client you moved further away
It has a delay in terms of the hooks animation being thrown out, but once shot the hook itself has no projectile
>>343842431
his stun lasts as long as the hook holds on to you
if you spam the escape as whatever character while hooked you'll survive 9/10
>>343844271
>>343844276
Guys Im sorry but the only reasonable explanation if you're reliably able to wraith form out of the hook combo, is you're playing against shitter Roadhogs in shit tier MMR that dont know how to queue his M1 after a hook
>>343843889
Roadhog can hold left click after hooking to instantly fire his scrap gun. The only reason you'd be able to escape is if either the roadhog didn't hold left click or has a high ping time.
One shot from the scrap gun without any headshot damage is 225, while the hook does 30. Add those two together and you have 255, which is greater than reapers total health pool. Roadhog only needs to hit half his pellets if the other half are headshots as well.
>>343844371
Hit scan doesn't have travel time, and the hook does.
>>343844484
How do I queue M1s
>>343844382
100% untrue. See >>343844240 and >>343844250
>>343844382
Except you wont because his gun > your escape according to the server. And thats intended by design to prevent frustration on the roadhog's part as being basically as stunned by the hook as his target is.
See >>343844240
>>343843954
double tank and double support is necessary most of the time and my 6 man groups always do it. Pugs never go for it because muh bastion/torb/shitter bullshit.
>>343843698
You're close, but the deadliest combination is bastion/reinhardt/torb/mercy set up in an spot thats hard for indirect fire to reach, like the rooftop at the end of the street in the beginning of Dorado.
On defense, of course.
>>343843359
I understand your complaint if it's for when there's no support or something, but a tank really isn't necessary on every team. Worse though is when of course everyone listens to the bullshit "tip" not enough snipers and half the team goes Hanzo.
>>343844553
Hold LMB during the hook animation.
>>343844553
Literally hold M1 while you're hooking. The shot will go off if you're still holding M1 the split second the server registers the stun as over.
>>343844548
The hook doesnt have travel time
It has a delay before firing, theres a difference
>tfw a roadhog hooks and instagibs you as Winston
>mid leap
>>343844672
>>343844690
OK so I press LMB and SHIFT at the same time to make it queue up?
>>343844704
I did this before. It felt good.He was trying to jump on the point during overtime
His team lost right afterward.
Is there any better feeling in life than hooking a Tracer?
>>343844810
can you read?
>Hold LMB during the hook animation.
>Hold LMB during the hook animation.
>Hold LMB during the hook animation.
>Hold LMB during the hook animation.
while the HOOK ANIMATION is happening, hold LMB (Left Mouse Button).
>>343844668
If you win without a tank your playing against absolute scrubs.
>>343843378
I say that.
Junkrat is useless.
Like Mei
>>343844810
You dont have to press em both at once
Just have M1 held down while hooking. If its held down as the hook ends, it goes off instantly.
So you can hook, then start holding down M1 during the animation of hooking, then as long as you're still holding it as the hook ends, you're golden
>>343844985
>Junkrat is useless.
Sounds like salt.
>>343844985
You mean you're useless as junkrat and mei.
>>343844704
>Finish a leap
>Suddenly teleport back to before I lept
>Frozen/hooked/flashbanged
I didn't know I was actually playing Final Fantasy XIV
Only Roadhog players or people who have only played against shit Roadhogs think you can survive the hook with any character that isn't a tank
>>343844921
Yes.
Knocking a Tracer off a cliff while her time reversal is on cooldown. Same with D.Va's thrusters and Winston's leap.
>>343843698
>play Zarya/Rein
>stay behind shield spamming M2 at enemy team
>if someone does get hooked it's a free 50 energy for me and they live
>>343844947
>>343844690
Oh shit, not that guy but this is news to me.
On the other hand, can the same thing be done with characters that have panic buttons like Reaper, Tracer, and Mei?
Like what I am saying is that if I was playing reaper and got hooked by roadhog, will holding down the wraith button make it activate the moment his hooking animation ends?
>>343840936
>hook a Mercy before she can ult
>she was in the air, 20tick sends her behind me
>or off to the right
>or she hits a piece of map geometry and is in that "too close to OHK M2, too far to M1 Melee" sweet spot
Fucking hate it. All people have to do is jump around or be in the air or moving due to some mobility skill and hook will fuck up
Just switch to Reaper or 76 if you're having so much difficulty with him
>>343844382
100% false
You can hold down M1 while hooking and it will shot as soon as you are able and it will be before the enemy comes out of stun.
>>343845547
He probably mains and has 100 hours on Hanzo.
>>343845547
but muh roadhog is always in hook range staring right at me with aimbot at every point in the game scenario
>>343844548
The hook does not have travel time, it has a delayed fire time from when you activate it.
You can also still aim it during that delay.
Then after it fires does it go through the hook animation but the target is already hooked.
>>343845429
No. The point is to favor the Roadhog, see >>343844240
Get Reaper, done.
>>343845114
I had a guy play torb on KotH.
We asked him to switch and he went Mei.
Then Winston.
I look at his record and all his playtime is on those threeThis was competitive
>>343845892
>>343845547
Why would your solution be to pick somebody who is supposed to get even closer to Roadhog?
>>343844947
>>343845045
Okay thanks I'll try that. Can other characters queue actions?
>>343844608
Double support is not necessary unless the enemy team has good flankers.
Double tank is extremely strong though.
>It's a the enemy team has 6 Torbs and nobody on your team switches to Genji episode
>>343846097
because both of them can shred Roadhog.
>>343846097
Because Reaper does a shitload of damage and kills him pretty fast. Also, Wraith form.
Reaper is the tank buster.
>>343844340
I love when you fly up and uppercut that bitch just as she hits her ult. Gets my dick hard every time
>>343846097
Because Reaper has more shotguns than Roadhog
And 76 can literally land constant headshots out of the hooks range
>>343840886
It's a potg, he experienced it earlier in the game and knows what's coming
>>343838595
Not necessarily
Due to the way hitboxes work, I've hooked several people after they've gone around a corner
>>343846251
>Enemy team has 6 torbs
>Someone goes Pharah and attempts to fly
Can't dog the hog, /v/
>>343845430
>my bullshit ohk move doesn't have 100% reliability
Literally the only reason people aren't picketing blizzard to nerf him into the ground.
>>343840629
>Your badness is not relevant in hero balance
Oh, well I guess it's time to nerf Widowmaker then. She would THEORETICALLY be OP if you had godlike aim
>>343846440
Where are your Lucio and Mercy? You ARE a team player, aren't you? Being a team player is a sign of Whiteness and/or Asianness. You ARE one or both of those races, aren't you?
>>343841179
This. Genji is always moving so the physics fuck up. If I hook that slippery asshole, I deserve the kill.
>>343846251
>picking genji to counter torb
Is this real life?
Just get rein and like any hero with range
>>343846586
Soldier 76 is already OP beyond Widows theoretical max even if you have merely Quakelike aim (and know where the headshot hitboxes are, they're odd)
>>343846440
Dyke is the best
>>343846610
>if i land my hit scan 30m range 6sec cooldown ability I should instantly kill the other character
All roadhog players are trash
>>343841227
Your math is terrible.
The scrap gun deals 4-9 damage per pellet, with 25 pellets per shot.So that means his gun can deal 100-225 damage, 200-450 for head shots, though if you're at the range where the fall off is hitting you, you're not hitting 100's.
Since none of the damage is over 10, all of his damage is halved against armor, so he can only deal 50-112.5 damage, or 100-225 for all headshots on armor.
>>343846598
>Rhein is 3rd
Whats the problem sempai?
>Playing pudge
>playing liajang tower
>hook pharah out of the sky
>teleports her behind me
>>343847318
nothin personnel
this game relies too much on counters and meta knowledge rather than skill
it's perfect for moba shitters
Anyone else think that Roadhog's ultimate could use a bit of a buff?
I play Roadhog constantly, and I have yet to find a good use for his ultimate beyond a panic button.
Honestly i think it would be much better if it simply had the knockback removed. I mean i have enough trouble aiming the fucking thing since it wants to jump around everywhere, the least it could do is not have the guy i was aiming at fly away from me.
It just seems like his ultimate is lackluster compared to the other characters. I mean i should feel like Heavy Weapons Guy marching in with that thing, instead i am just spraying an automatic pea shooter and instantly getting gunned down.
>>343847452
It's very situational, but it's great for cornerbanging people
you guys do know the hitbox on his hook is absolutely fucking broken right?
You can be actually retarded and go positive with this guy
>>343843621
>Roadhook is kind of a big fat ultimate charger for the other team.
It doesn't matter if you charge the enemies ultis if you're as good at giving them ulti as you are at shutting down their ultis
The hook is fucking great for taking care of most classes that benefit on me
>>343841717
>Unless you specifically pick one of his counters
>You can counter...
Didn't even try to read.
>>343847452
if you have zarya or reinhardt defend you instead solo ulting you get places
>>343847452
You can use it in conjunction with a Zarya ult.
>>343847452
it isn't supposed to be a big damage thing, though it can be if you have your enemies cornered or unable to be moved.
It's mostly, like Winston's, supposed to push people around, it's the whole point.
The game is as balanced as you can get. The problem is try-hards play it 9000 hours and find some crazy strategy that gives their hero an edge to a point to where it looks overpowering to the other person.
I still see a healthy player diversity. Every 10 games I get to see every hero at least once. THAT'S what you call a balanced game.
>>343846907
>hit scan
Literally retarded
>>343847452
>>343847879
But it does a ridiculous amount of damage even at range.
It sprays in a flat triangle instead of a cone so there is a lot less damage falloff, linear instead of quadratic, and most heroes that don't just die to it prefer to be up close to do damage and it stops them from doing that.
Pushing a team off a cliff is great but if used inside smaller rooms it can also kill all the squishes and push all the tanks into a corner so they can't do anything(and then die).
>>343844240
>>343848035
>implying we did not go over this already
>>343844371
>>343844690
>>343845801
It is hitscan you idiot
>>343848007
Yeah well every 1 games I see a Hanzo
>>343848431
And he's always the worst player.
>>343848765
NAH I GOT GOLD ELIMS, SCRUB>it's koth
>>343848007
>Every 10 games I get to see every hero at least once.
Except Zenyatta
And when someone does pick him the whole team tells him to switch.
>>343838078
Welcome to 20 tick. Server side, you were hit by the hook, where on your screen you were behind the wall.
>>343843552
Don't you dare try to claim Winston doesn't take some semblance of skill to use efficiently.
I play him all the time because I guess most players are console can't or aren't prepared to deal with Harambe, but that doesn't mean I can't be killed in seconds if I don't use him right.
I guess with the way his model is shaped, his headbox is pretty big/easy to hit, and with his Tickle-Cannon only reaching 5 feet in front of him, he can die pretty easily. Have you seen a "drooling moron" try to play as him?
I see that a lot when I start going off as him, and for some reason somebody on the other team switches to him too. 90% of the time they don't know what they're doing and get wrecked. If you don't know how Winston works, you won't get shit done as him. He isn't a 76 or Reinhardt.
>>343849035
No one ever tells me to switch when I play as him.
Everyone is just completely silent.
>>343849154
Winston has a pretty high skill ceiling but he also has a high skill floor.
A drooling moron can do okay with him, especially on KotH where he sees the most play.
>>343849236
>get a mic
>tell people to join team voice channel
>talk to them
>watch your winrate skyrocket
This is a team game.
>>343849384
Whenever I play and someone on the team has a mic it always sounds like they have dicks in their mouth and I can never understand what they're saying.
I end up distracted because I think I hear my name and I have to try and make sense of what I heard.
>>343849459
Turn up voice
Turn down game sound
I think I'm done with Overwatch for now, after about 70-ish hours.
Call me an ass-blasted faggot if you want, but I'm done with the game because of Widowmaker. No other sniper in any other MP game I have played has generated as much salt in me as Widowmaker does. No other class demands as much attention as she does while literally staying as far back from the action as possible. Whenever I hear her ult go off, I just stand still somewhere while I watch the 10 seconds tick by, because I know that right now I am allowed to do nothing fancy, or even just do a basic flank, because of an ult with no counterplay.
>>343837202
git gud
>>343849617
Sombra is going to counter it
>>343849617
I almost never see widow
Maybe once every 15 matches or so.
She would be broken in the hands of a pro but everyone who plays sucks too much.
>>343837202
Literally impossible
>>343849275
That's true for the most part, but I've still seen people try to play him as an actual tank like Reinhardt and get btfo, then switch to another hero. A good Winston also needs to be able to manage his abilities like jump and shield. I would argue that he's got a decently high skill ceiling and a mid-level skill floor.
>>343837202
>retard tries to take down a tank on his own close quarters
>gets mad when he gets fucked by the tank's ONLY combo
>>343849901
No. Winston does that. Why else Winston can make FUCK HUEG leaps in a single bound? So he can make it on top of roof tops and have him use his tesla gun.
>>343849617
Git gud bitch
>>343850076
>haven't played Winston in a while
>Numbani defense
>jump in on the attackers, drop my shield and shock their squishies, killing Genji and their Mercy
>the second that the mercy dies, my jump is back up and I get out of dodge
>next time go around the building and jump at them from behind, wounding the lot of them and killing their widowmaker before jumping away
I forgot how fun being a giant obnoxious monkey was.
so specifically pick one of his counters. you can change your character whenever
>>343838721
I love when the other team has a roadhog because it just gives me more of an excuse to play zarya and turn into a russian murder machine
>>343838771
I get the rest but how does genjii counter him?
>>343850286
Winston doesn't counter her ult, he counters her. If she uses it, nobody can do anything about it.Sombra is going to have an ability that cloaks allies from widow ult, hanzo sensor, and that red outline spotting mechanic thing
>>343837202
>unless you do the thing that beats him, you can't beat him
Wow I love these threads
