Remember when 'everyone' would play it?
Why is it suddenly so bad? Suddenly as in years ago.
>hurr because kids play it now
but YOU played it
Because we were promised/presented/envisioned something else. It went down the shitter at the badly done hunger update imo.
Updates that ruined potential. Game got way too popular.
Autists and kids played it
Autists move onto a new game every month
Now it's just kids
What's so hard to understand?
>>343800960
They went too far with the updates, I suppose.
The game grows stale after a while.
The charm died.minecraft let's players
Because of updates that provided a mish-mash of half-baked ideas that didn't actually combine to form a cohesive and fun game.
Every update since late beta was shit and added nothing but bloat.
Also would anybody be interested in playing a beta server? Been thinking of setting one up.
hunger was a mitake
It never became bad, but the community gradually changed from teenagers and young 20-somethings to children. Some aspects of newer terrain generation models also altered the general feel of the game.
Now there's more of an emphasis on minigames and metagames within the Minecraft scheme, and less on pure construction/exploration as was once the case.
You have been I.P..,. BANNEAUHFGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It went downhill around the same time people starting appearing all over Youtube trying to make a living with it.
I never played it. I mean I tried but it seemed pretty dumb.
>hurr because kids play it now
No, it's because the game is bad now.
Retard.
We played it because it had charm and interesting world gen, and because there were promises of massive potential. Now the world gen is ugly and boring, the game is feature creeped to hell and back with way too many incoherent blocks and items, the survival changes are all terrible, and the promises never came true.
>>343800960
There's literally nothing wrong with it.
>>343801502
>>343801069
>Because we were promised/presented/envisioned something else
>and because there were promises of massive potential
Get real, nobody ever played Minecraft for what it "could have" been. If a game isn't fun, people won't play it. It obviously had a very attractive premise from the get-go.
I still play it heavily modded. it's kinda like any bethesda game.
Base game is trash but slap a hundred plus mods on it and it becomes quite enjoyable
The appeal of Minecraft kinda went away when Notched changed the direction of the game as well as the online communities treatment of the game.
When it came out, it was cool and neat, it was another LEGO-type game where you have to survive and can make homes while listening to soothing music. It resonated with many people.
Then Notch started adding half-baked survival mechanics, added a fucking ending to the game, and started liscencing the game out to a market that was clearly aiming to get kids to rip off their moron parents (Tutorial/Wiki-quality information broken into several books at $10 a piece).
The game itself is still fine, but the idea of the game has been severely tarnished.
>>343801696
Please show me where I said that was the only reason anyone played it.
It was a part of the reason the game was popular here and in older age groups.
can't keep playing the game game all the god damn time, gosh
>>343800960
It was shallow and tedious before popularity exploded, and it has retained those classic characteristics even today.
>>343800960
>not playing on 1.7.10 with mods
>>343801956
>It was a part of the reason the game was popular here and in older age groups.
It was popular for the same reason any other game becomes popular. It was fun to play. The reason people became disgruntled with notch was because of failed promises and an increasingly relaxed development schedule. These are not reasons Minecraft is a bad game. A bad game is bad from the get-go.
>>343801696
And people bought it and played it based on the premises that were told and that were promised. If it was actually a good game by your logic we'd still be playing it and this entire conversation would be moot. What we wanted wasn't what we were promised or what we got, so we quit.
>play a game for awhile
>get bored
>stop playing it
wow OP are you really this stupid?
>>343801335
yeah this is why i didn't enjoy playing survival anymore
It went from a building, exploration game to a sUrvive yo, DUDE EPIC BOSS!!! Epin loot xD.
>>343802259
Nobody plays a game because of what's promised. They might financially back a game or attentively follow a development blog because of promises, but that's not the same thing.
My point is that if Minecraft fundamentally didn't have enough going for it, people would not have played it. And at the height of Minecraft's early popularity /v/ was positively swamped with attention toward this game.
>>343801672
Not an argument.
>>343801335
literally this, the update that killed all my interest in the game
>>343800960
Because there is basically no progression in the game
>make hut out of starting material
>dig cave
>find iron
>make iron stuff
>dig more
>find diamond
>make diamond stuff
>enchant everything out the ass
>make your dream house shaped like a dick
>GEE IM BORED NOW
I actively play Infinity Evolved on Feed the Beast because it's really fun and has great progression.
The time Minecraft was fun during was with the original creative-only servers and the early stages of SMP.
I got my share of fun out of it (also thanks to /v/), and can simply ignore what has become of it.
It's sad, but nothing surprising.
>>343800960
Because there isn't a game.
When I bought it in alpha I thought their end goal was some first person dwarf fortress or something.
But years later, they've only tacked on a bunch of meaningless crap.
the game was feature creeped with poorly planned and out of place survival mechanics that were tedious more than anything else. The worst update was the one that added hunger, but imo the game was slowly declining before then. Personally I think it stated with beds.
>>343803949
People who aren't inherently contrarian don't need one. I'm having fun because I'm not looking for a reason to hate it.
>>343801335
why is there no disable hunger option after all this time
I am endless salt
>>343805148
Because then your health wouldn't regenerate.
Honestly though you eat a steak (stackable up to 64!!!) every three minutes unless you're constantly sprinting or taking damage. Chill out and play the game, man.
>>343802421
>make wheat field
>unlimited food + occasional chore
Even better, learn to automate it. Hunger is a non-issue. I think you're just a casual.
>>343805321
I just don't want that fucking hunger bar, I don't want to deal with that shit when I'm trying to have fun
setting up an endless food farm isn't fun
>>343805321
I'm surprised the /HARDCORREEEE/ /VEEE/chan audience isn't complaining that the games too easy.
>>343805410
It sounds like you want creative mode
>>343805707
I just want survival mode without hunger
>turn on latest version of minge crap
>silky smooth 13 FPS when not looking at a stone wall
What actually happened? I know it was never well optimised and always ran like shit to some degree but I don't remember it being THIS bad.
>>343805410
Dude honestly I've always been the same way as you since I started in Alpha, but I started playing recently when it came out on Xbox One and it's got way too much in it now to miss out on just because of a hunger bar. It doesn't decrease unless you're doing stuff, so if you're building, you'll only need to eat one item (takes one second to consume, literally) every ten minutes or so. I actually prefer it to the old food system now.
>>343800960
Do launchers still work? It gave me multiplayer issues last time I tried.
>>343805758
You can have items in your offhand in the latest version
You can create a box of steaks at world gen, then keep a stack in your offhand to munch on every few minutes depending on activity.
If such a minor thing is the only factor preventing you from playing the game, then I don't know what to say. Your issues are laughably minor.
>>343805902
>latest version is on windows 10 only
Notch sold his soul
Its still fun if you get a good server
I was with /tg/ in the last 4craft interaction and we had alot of fun.
>>343805321
yeah but you used to be able to wolf down food instantly to restore large portions of health instantly, and food didnt stack.
>>343805758
>survival mode without hunger
What the fuck are you surviving then, the retarded mobs? Just play creative mode.
>>343805867
post specs
>>343805403
its not that hunger is an issue, its that the game was better without it
>>343806072
Why is Microsoft being so weird about their new OS version?
>>343806203
Mainly that it takes time and effort to create shit and its not just pop a block
Its not like making it an option is impossible, and games like subnautica ultimately let you have both modes
>>343806072
Lol dude what? The "Windows 10 Beta" edition is just a PC port of the Pocket Edition so W10 tablets can play with phones.
1.10 is on everything
>>343806217
>inb4 >AMD
>>343806203
You have to be at least 18 to be on this site.
I have never played this game.
Games with no real objective are a huge sign of the developers being extremely lazy and they just don't care at all.
Didn't care when it launched and it's basically, "build stuff with this really horrible interface and look at it I guess I dunno." I don't care what they added, the game was shit from the start.
>>343806132
so...it's too easy...hard...what? No animation food consumption with penalty free healing and inventory bloat is better?
>>343806336
They want everyone to get in their botnet funfest.
![Minecraft-image-1024x576[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wdrWsqq.png "Minecraft-image-1024x576[1].png")
>>343806336
>>343806072
Are you guys 'tarded?
>>343806348
>willing to waste hundreds of hours milling through stone to find more diamonds
>can't be fucked to kill a cow and cook a few fucking steaks
ok pal now you're really mind fucking me
>>343802247
>part
reading isn't hard, anon
>>343805403
That's the problem, idiot. It's too easy to stay maxed and makes managing your health meaningless because it always regenerates. "Death by a thousand cuts" no longer exists in the game. The only thing you have to be afraid of is instant kills.
>>343806460
I disagree vehemently.
Most open ended games have alot more care put into their gameplay systems and mechanics, which is usually more effort than shoehorning in objectives.
Any game with objectives is going to be worse for me, because when you finish every objective, you've beaten the game.
>>343806331
I'll have to take your word on that. One easily solvable feature I don't care for wouldn't be enough to keep me from a game I'd otherwise enjoy playing. I think you're muchabitch about nothing.
Can't you downgrade your version back to pre-hunger anyway?
>>343806452
>AMD
>>343806671
mate, I don't like dealing with food in video games
I'm not going to knock people who like hunger, whatever floats your boat
I just don't like it
>>343806671
finding resources to build structures in survival is rewarding and makes the game more enjoyable. Grinding cows all day to restock your food supply is not rewarding and makes the game less enjoyable.
>>343806460
>no real objective
To build shit and explore. Developers weren't lazy, their mindset was probably focused on an open world sandbox game ( which is a genre by the way).
Way way too much dumb shit was added.
>>343800960
The Adventure Update killed the game.
That's the one that introduced hunger, experience points, sprinting, the new world generator, etc...
Completely destroyed the game. Changed a whole ton of different mechanics and made everything a lot more complicated for no good reason.
>>343806919
>don't like dealing with food in video games
that sounds like a condition anon, id seek help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRdcptG365I
>this hasn't been posted yet
a terrible fanbase can easily kill a game like minecraft
>>343806867
mods lock me into this hunger torture
>>343800960
>Spend 5 hours settling making a decent house
>Spend an hour or so searching for diamond each day
>get more shit to make house look cooler
>server dies or resets the map
>repeat the same shit again on new server or map
Minecraft got really tiring after a while. I wish there was a game mode to play that is in between adventure and creative mode somtimes.
>>343807113
I have enough to talk about with the psychiatrist, "I don't like the hunger system in minecraft" is not on the list
>>343806731
Instant kills, overwhelming numbers, poor prep, being caught by surprise and running out of food seem like enough ways to die in my hardcore block simulator.
I'm having trouble understanding that you seemed to play the game more for it's challenge + exploration than building, while preferring the older hunger system so much that the new exploration potential and hardcore doesn't satisfy those cravings.
and penalty free instant healing is gay
>>343807416
Play Singleplayer or start a private server????
>>343800960
It was novel at the time and I sank a lot of playtime into it, but eventually I just got bored.
>>343807456
It's ok anon, desu I don't like the hunger system either, but you can play without it so i dont see the point of stressing over it.
>>343807003
like?
>>343806946
Like we said, if you want to do away with the whole practice, take 10 minutes to build a food supply in creative, then harvest/replant once ever few real time days.
You have what you need to circumvent the issue, you'd rather bitch about it.
>>343807416
What you're looking for are boat drifting maps anon
The game peaked with the half-assed halloween update.
>>343808059
All the retarded MMO shit or whatever. People were einitially drawn to it because of it being a unique sandbox, not for potions and witches.
>2016
>No floating islands
>Even floatanon gave up
>>343808059
I cannot be interested in a file if i had to cheat anything into it. I have every right to bitch about it because the I do not like the hunger system at all, and I'd rather have the option to play the old system over it in the current version.
>>343807196
Holy fucking shit, that second question:
"Do any of you have autism"
L M F A O
>>343806452
All
>AMD
Aside, your card is old and shit
>>343800960
Updates ruined everything. They added a bunch of shit no one cared about instead of improving core gameplay shit, but at least we have flowers now!
>>343808475
>I cannot be interested in a file if i had to cheat anything into it
You have mild autism and a lack of self discipline.
>>343808393
Neither of which affect the main experience. I seldom brew.
MMO shit? Please explain. Potions and witches are the exclusive domain of the MMO genre.
>>343808798
>flowers
>bad
>in a game about building stuff
Yeah, sure. The flowers.
Because the nostalgia factor is gone.
>>343808872
*aren't
>>343808798
what core gameplay issues need to be fixed?
>>343800960
lel i never played it, shit always looked gay as fuck
>>343808798
Flowers weren't even bad. The FUCK?
>>343809053
>MMO shit
I feel like it tried to go where it really never shouldve gone. Enchanting and brewing and dumb horseshit. I always enjoyed the vast openness and having to work to get the house or whatever I wanted to build, but it just doesn't seem like that's what it's about anymore. As if it tried to hop genres or someshit.
>played for the first time in a year or so last week
>underground diggin
>see a block, think its gravel
>hit it with shovel
>nothing happens
>hit it with pickaxe
>it breaks
So there's two new materials underground? I'm sure they serve some purpose but literally what the fuck. What was wrong with just cobble and dirt with the occasional gravel? Why add two more random shit?
>>343808557
>7:30
>"i have a friend with crohns disease, and she was about to give up"
>>343806336
They want to make PC more like consoles, insofar as things like ads in the start menu and xbox live subscriptions are concerned.
>>343801696
>Why doesn't anybody play it any more
>We don't play for this this and these reasons
>You're wrong! That's wrong!
>>343808428
Floatanon was the hero we deserved.
I think minecraft's time has passed. New games have stepped up to the block. It'll be dead in a few years, but the spirit of the experience will have been captured and perfected.
Actually, it already has! If any of you a looking for that pure and simple minecraft classic experience, except better, you'll want to buy my game.
>>343809053
>what core gameplay issues need to be fixed?
Hunger:^)
>>343808872
why? cheating takes any sense of worth out of a game that revolves around getting euphoria to things you build
/v/ started hating it when the game became known outside of /v/.
I'm done playing the game, it's definitely a good game but I'm not the kind of person that plays a game for 2000 hours.
>>343806336
Win10 Version is literally a port of Pocket Edition that they intend on making the "main" version.
>>343800960
No, I do not remember "everyone" playing it.
I don't remember a single fucking person playing it, including myself, know why?
Because Minecraft is for bergers and children to build their little make believe forts in, grow up
every time:
>start game
>build a small house in the side of a mountain
>lose all interest immediately afterwords
someone PLEASE explain what people find interesting in this game
>>343809957
>>343810002
>You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
>>343809560
>these two features that are completely avoidable and that you in fact have to go out of your way to collect diamonds, blaze rods, and obsidian, travel to the nether, and potion ingredients to do are why minecraft has debased itself and ruined the experience of building a house.
Buddy, I think you're just not willing to accept you're a hipster. You may not even realize it, buy you are.
>>343810240
Pretty much the only interesting part of the game is multiplayer.
>>343810240
it was fun when I played it with friends
>>343810310
it's true, /v/ was drowning in minecraft threads until it started getting popular outside of /v/
>>343800960
>YOU played it
No I played Terraria. Minecraft was always ass.
>>343810240
Honestly, it's knowing that there's nothing to do aside from building shit with no purpose other than to look pretty that kills it.
You already have Redstone Autism, but somehow it's only truly useful for cosmetics or "look at this device that doesn't actually benefit me!"
Any sort of defense can immediately be achieved with an Iron Door and Obsidian, or by simply building shit that can only be reached via ladder.
>>343809965
On some level, yeah, but you're circumventing an portion of gameplay you've zero inclination to engage so that you can have a pure experience of the mechanics you enjoy.
You simply don't like the game very much if you've the tools to make the game more palatable to you, but don't because you did something to facilitate the experience that doesn't directly effect what you enjoy. That farm or box of steaks need not have anything to do with your building.
>>343809609
It's just a different type of stone, anon, chill.
>>343800960
that was a great game and still is
BUT THE FUCKING FAN BASE AN THE FUCKING LIONMAKERS MADE ME WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT SHIT.
>>343810451
Modpacks anon, don't forget the modpacks.
Minecraft has probably, or had, the best modding community in vidya history. You could find literally anything except a mod that removes hungerbecause the only people that had problem with hunger are /v/irgins that wouldn't learn a bit of java to make a mod themselves.
>>343810237
>he throws away his childhood so that he can convince himself he's a big boy
you'll be big one day champ, let it come to you, don't rush to it
Are there any good minecraft mods that really take off where notch left it?
I mean stuff that's really in the spirit of the game
>>343801696
Give me a description of what YOU were promised. I'm waiting.
>hunger
>exp
>magic/alchemy/enchanting
>villages
>horses
I can't think of any other useless shit off the top of my head.
>>343811208
I remember when minecraft was good
dirt blocks, cobble stone, and wood are all we needed for a good time back in my day...
>>343805552
Before hunger there was a moderate level of risk involved with spelunking, you could only eat food so fast, and it made you vulnerable while doing so
>>343811208
>horse
>useless
>villager
>useless
You can go without enchanting and potions if you want. No one forces you to. Also still not useless. Well, enchantments at least. Only potions I've ever made are night vision and water breathing to explore the ocean monuments.
Hunger is the only one you can't avoid, yet it such a small thing that it's funny to see people make such a big deal out of it.
>>343810943
your making implications onhow i value the machanics, i never said i cant tolorate the hunger, just that i much prefer the old way. cheating food in takes away the enjoyment for me more effectively than the hassle of gathering food
Everyone says minecraft was good when ___X___.
You can LITERALLY make minecraft to play in any shape or fasion. There's literally no excuse.
You don't like hunger? Mod.
You don't like extra additions? Mod/Plugins
It's literally child's play
>>343810328
If you can tell me it's still focused on building, then I'll kiss your ass.
>>343811590
>hunger
>small thing
It literally kills you if you don't do it. How the fuck is that small, you retard.
>>343811590
Horses allow you to bypass the entire point of the game. Which was adventuring across unknown territories. With the horse you can literally blow past fucking anything and everything. It destroys the entire purpose of the game.
>>343811842
>You don't like hunger? Mod.
Surprisingly, this actually isn't the case. I've literally never seen a mod that removes hunger, but there's plenty of shit that makes it even more tedious, it's like an unspoken rule that you aren't allowed to make a No Hunger mod.
>>343811854
I really can't when all you seem to do is gather cobblestone, mine iron, mine obsidian, then speed run through the nether collecting blaze rods and potion ingredients before collecting more diamonds to build an enchanting room/brewing room.
When it's all done you curse notch's name over the fact that you haven't built a house yet.
>>343811952
Small to engage quickly the ignore, not let yourself die you meme
>>343811341
But you ate food instantly.
>>343811952
2 steaks fill your hunger bar completely. You can get a stack of steaks so easily, it's ridiculous and unless you're sprinting, you hunger won't deplete fast.
You can always play creative if you don't like the survival thing. Or you can just cheat in a command block and make it max your your hunger every minute and you will never have to eat.
>>343812225
Adventure was never the entire purpose of the game. And horses actually encourage exploring and adventure because now you don't need 20 minutes to get to some unexplored land but just 5.
And you can't do the same with minecarts because it's not an unexplored part if you were there and placed tracks.
>>343812225
then don't tame them. horses don't to wander up to you and let you ride them. you had to have found a saddle and broken the horse in. You're blaming the game because you don't have self control.
>>343800960
I never played it. It was always shit.
1.7.3 beta was the last good version
>that world generation
>spawning at beaches to have that "washed up on the shore "survivor feel
>no other humans, no structures, no villages
>feeling of being completely alone in this world
>dont have to worry about hunger
>cant make op weapons
>mobfarms were easily doable without any redstone
>>343812238
>>343811952
The issue with hunger isn't that it's small or too large, it's that it's depthless and just adds a pointless level of tedium to the game. It's incredibly easy to set up a permanent food source and there's really no challenge or depth to it, it's just an annoying thing you have to do so it really shouldn't exist.
The fact that sprinting to save time makes you hungier and jumping in a world made of fucking jump-height cubes makes you hungry too is also unreal levels of retarded. It's like someone just spitballed a bunch of general game ideas out and they put them in the game without even consciously thinking about them.
>>343801335
This
They just added too much dumb shit. No one ever wanted to enchant or make shitty potions with the worst potion system in the world.Besides, Terraria is better
>>343812909
>adp instead of ublock origin
>chrome to phone instead of pushbullet
>>343811746
Well, I won't argue your taste anymore then, but to me, you've got a solution to your gripe about the game, but it's worse than the problem to begin with apparently.
Anyone remember the pre WorldEdit days? I sure do.
I remember when it was just a small group of people on our tiny server, getting together to build stuff. We didn't even have fly mode back then, just some commands to spawn basic tools and blocks. It really was about being creative with our limited means. Then the modding wave began and it devolved into copy pasted cities, ridiculously huge buildings with no interiors and gigantic flat planes with barely anything on them.
I sure wish I was 17 again.
Would anyone play a beta version server if i created one?
>>343811341
Actually you ate food instantly before hunger, but it didn't stack.
Yet people found and easy way around that as well, like always.
Bring a stack of the 2 mushrooms and a bowl. Craft food wherever and whenever you need. Minecraft was never hard back than. It's in fact much harder now because instant healing is later in the game and doesn't stack, while minions deal far more damage and actually are more intelligent in some aspects. At least the skeletons will strafe around you making them harder to hit and the sword cooldown punishes bad attacks.
Hunger actually made the game harder. Yet people bitch it made it easier because you can cobble up in a hole and wait to heal. You could do the same back then and people did it with the mushroom trick I mentioned previous. Just that healing then was instant and didn't slow you down, so you could have some food ready in your hotbar with the mushrooms as a backup plan.
Minecraft was objectively a much easier game back then.
>>343812635
As for hunger, see
>>343812942
>adventure was never the point
>but horses actually encourage it!
You're fucking retarded. Way to contradict yourself, retard.
>>343812635
>2 steaks fill your hunger bar completely. You can get a stack of steaks so easily, it's ridiculous and unless you're sprinting, you hunger won't deplete fast.
That's exactly why it's terrible design. If it's that shallow and pointless, why is it even in the game?
>>343800960
hurr because kids play it now
>>343812832
Villagers aren't people, only Steve is. The sooner you accept this the easier you can sink back into /lonely/
>>343813213
How am I contradicting it?
Adventure isn't the main point.
That doesn't mean nothing can encourage it.
You do know that you can have more than 1 thing in a game, right? Survival, building and adventure aren't mutually exclusive, you understand that?
>>343813270
Because it makes the game harder, and people were complaining that the game was too easy with instant heal ready whenever you need it.
>>343813270
Two steaks fill me up pretty well too. Shit irl hunger mechanics. The first world middle class life style is too easy. I wish humanity would return to ver -4000 B.C.
>>343813358
This, Villagers are basically more advanced primates that have developed civilization and a currency, and sometimes an Iron Guardian.
Aside from that they do fuck all aside from being exploitable in automated crop farms.
>>343813169
No, I'm playing with friends on the latest ver and we're havingfun
>>343813169
yes.. I almost wanted to make one myself with their Realms.. but not sure if they support using earlier versions
>>343813569
>Because it makes the game harder, and people were complaining that the game was too easy with instant heal ready whenever you need it.
You just told me it doesn't make the game harder.
And if you were trying to say it does, that's wrong. Setting up a wheat farm for infinite bread adds zero difficulty, it's just depthless tedium.
>>343813569
>Because it makes the game harder
>wacking non-hostile mobs with your hand
>collecting another random material and slapping it in a furnace
>hard
Good joke, anon. It's a hassle with no real purpose other than to give you another time sink. There's literally nothing wrong with instant heals. In fact, I guarantee you that more games use instant heal than regen.
>>343813926
>it's just depthless tedium.
It's the player's choice to insulate themselves from starvation. Plenty of tense game has arisen from my decision to travel with too light a load, too far from home, and as night blankets the world.
>>343813926
>You just told me it doesn't make the game harder.
I never said that. I said it's not hard to not die of hunger. And that's true.
But it made the combat harder. And having infinite wheat of steak means nothing when you can eat and heal only so fast while being completely defenseless.
Hunger doens't make the building aspect harder, but the survival.
>>343814160
>mob attacks me
>try eating a steak
>get slower down
>can't defend myself
>enemy keeps hitting me
>finish eating
>enemy deals damage faster than I regenerate
Compared to
>enemy attacks me
>eat a steak instantly
>heal instantly
it's harder. You need to literally retarded to deny that. Unless you're actually playing on peaceful, in that case you might as well cheat in a command blocks to give yourself infinite saturation.
>>343812238
oops
>>343814495
>But it made the combat harder. And having infinite wheat of steak means nothing when you can eat and heal only so fast while being completely defenseless.
I'm not defending the implementation of the old food system, you fucking dolt, I'm only criticizing the current system. It was also bad as before, but for different reasons.
If I were to have food in MC in addition to potions but no hunger system, food would still require the channel to heal you and then it would give you a heal over time that breaks on taking damage.
Beforehand food was essentially instant cast potions, which should never be as easy to acquire as food.
>>343806336
Because they plan to start charging for updates.
They want to turn their OS into a subscription based service.
>>343806946
There are automated chickenery designs out there.
Autists gonna autism.
>>343814770
Well, /v/ is bitching about things without knowing anything, once more.
>>343814495
That's artificial difficulty. It's not real difficulty. You saying that regen makes it harder is not valid.
I could say it's your fault for getting hit, or trying to eat when you're also trying to battle. Maybe you're just bad at the game? Besides archers, it's not even hard to never get hit by any mobs. Your point is completely bogus.
>>343809609
Just stone is a drag. As useless as those three minerals are, they add some variety. They need a better use, that's for sure. And we need more of them based on the biome. Mineralogy changes so much underground it's an absolute joy to explore.
>>343806946
>grinding all day
>literally feed cows
>push 1 button to make the piston transport baby cows
>once they grow up they automatically get killed by lava
>get over a stack of cooked meat and leather that lasts you for several in game days
>>343805148there is you degenerate
>>343815479
>That's artificial difficulty. It's not real difficulty.
>>343815687
>hold a button to eat food
Wow, so hard!
>>343800960
>buy Minecraft
>enter a server
>spawn in some complex city
>full of portals to ''minigames''
>what the fuck, I just want to build shit and go on raids
>chat is full of texts in colors telling me to pay for a slot in the server at their website
>can use real money to buy gear
>can't just play fucking Minecraft where you build a house, but online
That's what went wrong.
>>343800960
For me it was what I now call "the Jeb update" and it was the one in which the added sprinting, food, eating animation and potions. I know that Notch worked on some of those but I feel that this was the moment when Notch just gave up and gabe the development controll to Jeb who had completely different vision. Earlier it was building game where mobs and hostile players were just minor inconviniences not the focus. Then came enderman and ender, you can really see where direction went by looking at enderman who was MOVING YOUR SHIT. Or by other dimensions. Nether added a nice looking alternative to torches, a block that never burns out so you can have a fireplace, soulsand that enabled things like one way doors. End added a nice substitute for sandstone and a boss. Blocking with sword is not fun, critical strikes are retarded, potions are an uninspired sneezefest, food is just annoying. And nobody seems to notice that this update casualised the fuck out of mining. Previously I stopped picking up coal after a month, now after a day I can have more than I will ever need, diamonds are now so common they added a new ore to be the rarest.
And those things would've been nice if they were optional, a dlc and more fleshed out.
>>343815993
You find a good server.
There are a million of them on the official forum.
I got something to confess
I haven't played minecraft in my entire life. Never saw the appeal
>>343801145
>Updates that ruined potential.
This and the most recent updates have all been focused on combat/PvP and the children playing it now defend MC as a PvP game. It's gone the way of SWG at this point. Glorious and wondrous adventures snuffed out by the need to appeal to the growing E-peen vs E-peen faggots. It's not getting new biomes, hordes of new craftables, or new locations to explore (like the Nether).
>not using the life in the woods mod
it is the game how it was supposed to be like all the time
Best Minecraft version?
>>343816243
>Previously I stopped picking up coal after a month, now after a day I can have more than I will ever need, diamonds are now so common they added a new ore to be the rarest.
That was changed for people who play a map for more than 24 hours.
Do you really think the lets player that plays the same map for over 4 years could reasonably get anything done with the really old ore distribution?
They added more ore, but they also added far more thing that use those ores.
Yes, iron is probably 2 or 3 times more common, but they also added hoppers which are some fo the most used blocks in the game and cost 5 ingots.
They added more diamonds, but mobs deal more damage and break your shit faster.
They added more coal, yet even with a fortune pickax I can go back to 0 after a few nether mining trips to smelt all the nether.
Emeralds are stupidly rare for no reason so no one mines for them and just abuses the villager to get them.
Compared to minecraft back then, now you have so much more stuff to make and do that the old ore distribution wasn't working.
>>343810240
for me lately it's been
>start game
>build a small house in the side of a mountain
>start to mine
>get hungry
>sulk about the fact i need to interrupt my mining to go make a farm so soon in the game
>lose all interest immediately afterwards
>>343817043
But they could get a lot done with the old generator. Just setup a railway underground to another mine.
>>343804162
found the faggot who always followed instructions on lego sets because he his complete lack of imagination prevents him from building anything else
>>343816607
1.7.x
>>343812832
>1.7.3 world generation
fucking unf, i had this beautiful little bay with a big natural wall around that was broken in one place by a vale that let to a lake beach semi covered by a giant grotto, made a house by the bay, and another one up in the wall, made a water elevator to get up and down easily, fuck i wish i took screenshots, but i didn't and i lost the map to boot
>>343816607
1.7.3 beta.
>>343806946
You don't like killing cows or bothering with a cow farm, huh? So, where do you plan on getting leather for books from?
>play it recently on some modded server
>everything unbreakable
shortly find out you can use creepers to break stuff still
>perform a heist to get into a guys base and blow up his chests to steal all his shit
It was pretty funny, but I guess they're doing a server reset because of it.
So now, i'm going to walk for like 50 hours in a single direction to make the server load file huge as fuck, then do it again.
>>343818490
if you haven't been banned the first time for doing that shit (if it's even possible to detect the creeper was onto you) and creeper explosions are still on, they fucking deserve it for being retarded
>>343800960
I feel like sometime around Thaumcraft 3 or 4 was the best time for Minecraft, when mods were just starting to explode.
I remember being so hyped about the Adventure Update. That was so long in the making. Little did I know, I was on the last good version of Minecraft.
I miss the 404 challenge and everything about world generation pre Beta 1.8. The only thing I had fun with post-1.8 was Skyblock, and even that was short-lived.
Also
>hunger
>>343818784
100% this
everything went down the drain when Curse turned the modding environment into a fucking one-upping contest for fame, curse rewards, adfIy pennies and patreonbucks
>>343819139
Fuck, modding was so different back then, the days before Forge. Anyone else here install the original Aether mod for 1.7.3? The dependencies, man...
Modloader
Audiomod
etc
It was so... Different
>>343801904
>those books
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343819139
Thaumcraft 4or5 + Automagy is still one of the best combinations of mods you could possibly add to Minecraft.
I feel like so few other mods dedicate themselves to having a decent speed and scale of progression while not going out of their way to become too unbalanced, plus Thaumcraft dabbles into a lot of areas that would otherwise just have dedicated mods, so the total synergy of everything in the mod really feels like a much-improved game overall. I mean, dat dimension. Dem bosses. Dose mind spiders.
And Automagy tries really hard to stick to vanilla Thaumcraft's progression without just going "A MILLION MAGIC ENERGIES FOR THIS SUPER OP GEAR".
>>343819529
>The dependencies, man...
Pretty much every other mod requires a libmod/coremod, usually by the same mod author, either because the people in charge of Forge don't add the hooks for whatever reason or because they just want to double their adflypennies.
>>343800960
Its the same story as goat simulator I guess.
You run out of things to do and mods don't really add more than 5 minutes of playtime.
Plus its too mainstream now so its automatically labeled shit.
>>343807196
are you literally crowbcat
>>343819959
Oh, I'm not necessarily for or against Forge. I merely remember when everyone and their mother's mods depended on it(idk about now; I haven't modded since I stopped playing years ago) I just can't believe how much the game has shifted in the modding community.
>>343820076
>mods don't really add more than 5 minutes of playtime
>he never optimized bee breeding in Forestry
>>343815687
>I have no argument, just ram your dick up my ass sempai
don't mind if I do
>>343820076
>mods don't really add more than 5 minutes of playtime.
you should stop try installing more than one mod at a time
It was something new and exciting when it was in infdev, when everyone on /v/ was playing.
Then it went into alpha, then beta, then release, and nothing particularly interesting was ever released. The Nether is pointless, the End is even more pointless and has zero content that couldn't have been combined with the nether. Potion making is pointless, stamina/hunger just drags the game down, and now there's this absurd focus on combat, one of the least important aspects of the game.
They took something with tons of potential and did absolutely nothing with it. There are some good mods like Better Than Wolves or any one of the ton of industrial packs that add some more breadth to the game, but overall it's just a dull mess of wasted opportunity.
>>343802650
Except everyone that buys kickstarter/Early access games, you enormous moron.
I really enjoyed Minecraft honestly.
I just I wish I could forget anything from that game so I could play it again and enjoy the experience.
>>343820219
>>343820485
I stopped playing it back in 2013.
It's just plain boring.
I get very little time off my two jobs and i Don't want to waste it browsing mods for Minecraft like an autist
>>343805069
...fuck you...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This thread makes me want to play it again
Isn't there a /v/ server?
>>343820931
GIT THE FUCK OUT OF MY BASE, SHADOWY APPARITION
>>343806336
The console versions don't have public servers which is fucking bullshit
>>343821096
You ain't no fuckin' fairy.
>>343821306
Ah shit, they're all over the place.
Stop fogging up my goggles, fuckweeds.
>>343820931
>>343821096
>>343821306
>>343821530
>2015-04-26
autism
>>343821638
Hey man I ain't played in a while and I just wanted to share some of my experiences.
>>343821096
Why would anyone play that shit?
>>343800960
an avalance of mistakes
hunger was a mistake
"realistic" terrain generation was a mistake
"realistic" vomit green grass was a mistake
that other swedish guy joining and adding features with no rhyme or reason was a mistake
allowing anyone to make a profit off of the franchise was a mistake
allowing curse to take over everything was a mistake
selling out to microsoft was a mistake
>>343801696
>nobody ever played Minecraft for what it "could have" been
That's literally what people paid for.
>>343822081
I still have no idea why this exists. It's amazing to me that something I used to love could spawn so much cringeworthy garbage
anyone remember classic servers?
Lava survival games were the best
>>343821892
Because Warp was mostly manageable and very rarely did it ever become a serious issue unless you had absolutely no regard for caution? The fog went away as soon as you killed the apparition unless there were others near by which actually wasn't terribly common.
Also because Thaumcraft was one of a very, very small list of mods that added a good length and scale of enjoyable progression to the game, along with new mechanics that enhanced the base game it was placed onto? Also there was something strangely satisfying about building up the perfect aura node.
>>343822081
Whats the last good version and why?
>>343822710
The last good version wasurmom
Halloween update ruined it for me. Specifically, adding lanterns and making torches finite. Would have made exploration spooky as fuck but they never delivered.
Burn in hell Notch
I kind of miss how dangerous fire used to be.
Now if you fuck up, you lose maybe one or two blocks. Back before they nerfed it, you would lose everything in reach of the fire. Sometimes even spawning into worlds covered in flames
>>343824381
thanks
>>343814770
there isnt a no hunger mod for the latest version of mc
Watching "Hermitcrafters" on Youtube play Minecraft changed my entire perception on how to play SP, the game has become a lot more enjoyable after watching them play.
>>343822563
>Lava Survival Games
I loved those. Are there any more servers or all of the died when they took classic mode off?
