Alright /v/, post 'em.
>>343738496
is ANYONE above 77?
I was a fucking idiot. I played my placements when I was still tweaking my keybindings and mouse sensitivity, and wound up playing terribly and going 4/6. My rank is currently 36. Wish me luck on the climb, anons. I hope next season's placements go better.
around 50 just like 2/3 of the people in comp
bell curves are funny like that
>>343738496
If you don't get this non-jap shit out of my face
56 right now. I've been stuck from 52 - 59 since ranked came out
>Was 51 two days ago
>Now only 44
I had a big lose streak because of legit retarded teams, like they would walk of edges retarded
Started at 44 went up to 54 now back to 50 i hate solo queuing so much
>>343739801
>like they would walk of edges retarded
Oh sure, they were the retards
>>343738496
Wouldn't it be funny if this whole placement mechanism is simply a random number generator between 35-65 plus-minus value equal to the number of matches you won out of the 10?
I'm 60, playing solo, losing 50/50, main D.Va, people always give me the shit when losing even though I end up with all the gold medals every single game
>>343742597
Any tips for D.Va senpai i need to git gud at a tank thats not Roadhog
>be 40
>win 3 games
>shitty exp, still 40
>lose one single game
>39
thanks, blizzard
I was placed a 54 after the placement matches...how am I doing so far? I have no idea if that's good.
>>343743320
Impressive
>>343738496
>overquitters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAneib00NSU
cancerous baby community
>>343738496
62
Any good players wanna queue up?
I play Zarya.
57 right now, was 58 initially.
>>343738496
Started at 49, got up to 51, now back at 49. The match that dropped me back to 49 was a soul-crushing KOTH game where we were up 2-0 and proceeded to lose the next 3 rounds, so I think I'll be taking a break from comp for a little while.
>>343738843
Are they re-doing placements at the beginning of each season?
Placed 40 now 39
If I'm bad I'd like to know the math behind the numbers because there's no fucking reason I should lose a full rank when I went three golds in a game that had two torbjorns do nothing on my team in Nepal.
>>343742984
I hate being D.va just because even before the game starts I have the whole team screaming at me to change characters even though I end up with 2+ golds and 4 medals EVERY SINGLE GAME.
I'm not even the guy you replied to, but someone started this meme where D.va is Zenyatta-tier and now everybody believes it. In fact, most people think D.va is worse than Zenyatta. I hate this. I've stopped maining her just because I'm tired of arguing with some retard on my team the whole game.
>>343743723
They don't go by individual metrics, only wins and losses.
>>343743640
I think I got 54 or 57 but I had the same amount of wins and losses, guess it is affected by game play too not just wins and losses.
>>343743873
No it's not. They specifically fucking said it has nothing to do with gameplay since those metrics can be "gamed". Did you even read the fucking patch notes?
>>343743843
Actually your individual performance dictates how much points you get per win or loss.
I played out of my mind for 10 games in a row, getting 4 golds every match. Every match I won I ranked up one whole level.
I lost one game in which I also did really well and only lost very few points.
Then I lost a game where I played like shit and I lost a lot more points.
Individual performance matters.
>>343743742
I've been seeing zenyatta like fucking crazy lately.
>>343743719
Of course.
>>343743961
No there weren't any when I got it on ps4, so there is your reason. I got 7wins and 3 losses and I'm lower than 60 on rank
>>343743968
No it doesn't.
>>343743587
Wait, what exactly does Leaving do to both sides mechanically?
He's saying something about 'full credit', you get less MMR if people on the enemy team leave?
What happens to your MMR if someone on your team leaves?
>>343744049
He just needs a bit more survivability for ranked, but god damn is he fun and rewarding.
>>343744118
Then why do you explain people who play support and get very few kills get very little points per win, while people who play heroes that get many kills and deal a lot of damage get a lot of points.
I've been playing with my friend who plays support, I won and got 1 full level, he got like 1/4th of a level. It happened 4 times.
>>343743968
This is golden. Someone should use this as a case study for confirmation bias. It's apparently possible to convince yourself of game functions that don't exist.
>>343744049
In ranked they are awesome, because people are actually teaming up and watching eachothers back.
Zenyatta being a support for attack and healing comes in handy, more on the attack than healing, but this forces other players to play safe instead up barging in like retards in QP.
So how does it determine your rank?
I'm confused as fuck.
I went 2/8 yet I'm rank 63. I honestly thought I would be lower considering I see people with a bigger winstreak than me.
>>343742984
Don't, or I'll talk shit about you if you're in my team
D. Va is just a slow, oversized tracer that lets enemies charge their ults for free
>tfw above average
>>343744258
WOW!!
0/0
I'm not wasting my and everyone else's time shitting up the mode with my so-so skills. Also because it doesn't sound like a very pleasant scene and for Overwatch that's saying something.
How does ranked even work?
I do my placement matches, win 7, lose 3, had a ton of gold medals and carried a few times, but I end up at 56? What gives?
>>343744378
above average is rank 50 if you use the 80000 sample size on masteroverwatch
YO
>>343743438
Top 25%.
Started at 51, went up to 52, fell to 50, now I'm back at 51.
>>343744187
If someone one your team leaves, you don't lose much, but the winning team doesn't win much either. Leavers not only punish their team by leaving them 5v6, they also penalize the other team by almost negating their win (which is usually the cause for leavers).
I've been winning more than 2/3 of my matches but I'm barely making progress with all the leavers because while I lose big when I lose, I rarely ever win much. My W/L is 22/10 and it only got me from 55 to 59.
>>343744528
You won 7 and lost 3.
I was a 57 or something when I first got placed, got to 60, hovered around 57-59 because of bad teamwork as all I did was soloqueue.
Started raging because I gave so much of a fuck. I decided, fuck it, I'll just be in this for the winning points, fuck my rank, I'll just have fun and try to win but not get so butthurt when I lose. Dropped to a 52. Having a lot more fun now.
>>343744663
If I would have won all 10, would I have been 100? Is that how this shit works? Just winning?
>tfw top 4% with 80% winrate
Feels good man
>everyone on /v/ has to play solo
im not at all surprised
>>343744320
No one knows, I had 6/4 and ranked 55, did placements matches for a friend, he got 8/2 and was 59, another got 5/5 and was 58.
>>343744460
>Also because it doesn't sound like a very pleasant scene
I keep bouncing between 50 to 52, so far it's been fine. People get a little whiny but nobody's league of legends tier 'OMFG SHIT TEAM', at least not so far
>that one guy on VOIP who is clearly STONED AS SHIT and whiny as fuck
>>343744765
No.
I know people who won the 10 games and got placed sub 50, I know of a guy that lost 9 placement matches and got placed at 62.
There's more to it than wins and losses.
>>343744831
Better to be in solo at 50+ than to group with sub 50s ;0)
>>343743742
d.va is good af but cant main tank in most situations. i hate selecting her and seeing everyone else assume they can choose whatever because lol 1 tank
>>343744860
Does anyone know what that is yet? Because I broke my back carrying teams, switching champs, earning gold medals, etc, only to placed at 56 feels like an insult desu. I'd just like to know what else I should be doing.
>>343745014
Hey now man I carried my team every single time in my placements getting 3-4 gold medals every game, and I also calibrated at 56, however I managed to climb all the way up to 62, and I'm having no issues climbing further.
Don't despair.
>>343745014
I'm the same, but 56 is fine, I just don't understand how people can place above 60 from the start, it's already like 10 won matches worth of ranking exp above my starting rank and I did pretty well during my placements.
>>343738496
best I had was 69, then I picked up a shitty friend of a friend and he sandbagged me all the way down to 65. straight up told them I'm not playing ranked with his shitty friends and he apologized profusely
like, shit man, if I have to play fragger for you instead of offtank because you're terrible, that's one thing. when I end up with 80+% kill participation (even had one where I was 118% because I killed so many revives) doing YOUR job for you...
>>343745407
>you're THAT friend
Enjoy your life of solitude and rage brah.
>>343738496
I'm at 41, started at 43. I keep novering between 40 and 43.
I kinda had some terrible placement matches and now that I'm here, I can't get out.
Soloqueuing is hell.
I mean, I'm not a great player, but I'm not that terrible. I just have horrible luck with teammates. Even my win-rate in quick-play is 48%. I can't even hit 50%.
>>343745135
This, up from 50 to 61 in like 9 hours, and still top player most of the time
It's doable, but then again I got fucked over at calibs so has been easy
>>343745014
Did you play support a lot? From what I hear that fucks your calibration because you get less points or less gold medals or something.
>>343745407
Just play Quickplay with him instead of ranked you colossal faggot.
>calibrated at 52
>made it to 55 after like 50 fucking matches
>now down to 54
I know I'm not THAT good, I can't easily just carry teams to victory, but jesus fuck there are a lot of idiots at this range. I really feel like I deserve to be around 62, if I can climb my way up there I'll be happy but it's gonna be a struggle.
Got placed at fucking 46 because my first 5 placement games my team mate left before the first round even ended. No clue what luck I deserved, but ended up 3-7 in placements somehow.
I climbed to 56 in like 2 hours after that but then realized how badly designed this game's ranking system is and stopped playing again.
>>343745603
Also started at 43 calib 3/7 now I'm at 49 23/13 but it's so fucking slow with all the rage quitting holy shit this game is a test of patience more than anything btw all I did to start winning was spam 76 his overall game impact is insane
>>343746046
>I really feel like I deserve to be around 62
That's why you're 52.
>>343738496
>comp comes out
>figure I can fuck around more in quick play
>double up on hanzo
>"What the fuck are you doing? You think double Hanzo is a good idea?"
>Yeah, actually.
>Get reported for being a "troll"
What the fuck is wrong with these guys?
>Started at 52
>Within the first 24 hours fell to 48
>A couple nights ago talk with some randoms in voice chat since it's solo queue
>We win, party up
>Find another 3 people the next game for full 6
>Win 5 in a row and bring me back to 52
>I solo queue the next day to get myself up to 56
felt so good
>>343746124
Maybe I'll try that too. I've just been stuck playing healer for so many matches because even in ranked, people are still whiners about playing healers and tanks and just refuse to do it.
And fuck quitters up the ass with a rake.
>>343738496
Hit 51, pretty butthurt that support players get less rating than offensive players. After playing support in 7 of my qualifiers.
Punished again because nobody fucking plays supports.
Ranked sucks dick in this game though, no real point in trying.
>>343746130
You don't get it man. There are so many Hanzo mains at this range. So many frontline Tracers, people who refuse to change when our setup is clearly not working, people who don't want to focus on high priority targets on the other team. It's a mess and I don't deserve this. Anyone with a functioning brain doesn't.
>>343745563
>>343745927
it wasn't my friend, it was a friend of a friend. my friend actually agreed with me and didn't want to play with him either. we were both lamented that b.net doesn't have a "show as offline" option
we ended up just playing quick play the rest of the night so we wouldn't exclude anyone. carried the shit out of that, too. shit gets boring, man. when I solo queue'd last night I was getting nothing but streamers, pros and apparently Surefour on an alt account. shit was insanely hard but it was still way more rewarding as practice than trying to do everything to everyone on the enemy team
>Offensive Bastion
>Defensive McREEEEEEEEEE
>Genji mains who've literally set their bnet name to 'seagull'
>People picking Zenyatta as the only healer
>Hanzo
I spent two days in the shitter bracket when queuing with friends who got placed at 43. Never again
>>343746130
nah, he's right. the idiots that hold you back in this game really are frustrating, and if you get placed sub-60 you're going to have a hell of a time in solo queue digging yourself out unless you're a downright amazing player.
>>343746124
>btw all I did to start winning was spam 76 his overall game impact is insane
YAAAAP. no one else carries a game as hard as 76 aside from a top-tier tracer.
>>343746460
I played versus STAR_ the other day, good shit.
>>343746374
Honestly, I don't know what to tell you about the trench in this game.
If you're really good you'll play a high impact hero and carry your team to victory, like Zarya, Soldier 76 or Roadhog.
You need to accept that you're not perfect too though, and that you're still part of the reason you lost.
Even if you have 4 or 5 gold medals, the MM doesn't put you up with people who have a much higher level than you, so you're clearly not getting shafted by matchmaking.
>>343746548
My suggestion is to instead of solo queue go dual queue with a good player. I don't play solo queue anymore because people are trash and have horrible attitudes, but when queued up with one or two more players the game is massively better.
>implying rank means jack fucking shit if you solo queue
>>343746660
>I played versus STAR_ the other day, good shit
starB
I usually end up playing at different times so I haven't managed to queue into him in competitive yet. now that I've gotten my rank shit on so hard this weekend I'm not sure I'll even be in range anymore either
>>343746660
Yeah, I play with my brother and his friends and when it's just like 3 of us (the best 3) we win games like nobody else
I've also potentially played against reynad before. pretty sure it was him because he only picked mccree and would target me exclusively when I shittalked him
>>343746826
What rank are you at right now?
>>343746919
64, since even my friends who aren't bad are high 50s I get half a level at most from wins and lose an entire level if I can't carry.
>>343746536
McCree is actually pretty good on defence
i crushed my first 4 matches then came home wasted as hell and lost each of the remaining six. placed 49.
>>343744049
He's amazing in defense when he's paired with a Symmetra. That extra 25 Shields helps so much, plus his Ult counters Zarya's. I've never been able to make it work on attack, you're much better off picking Mercy or going Lucio if someone's already a Mercy.
>>343747028
He *can* be, but that implies anyone in that bracket can shoot without the crutch that is fan-the-hammer
>>343747023
I'm at 62 about to get up to 63 right now.
Wanna queue up?
I'm looking for good players to play with.
>>343738496
I made it to 54 but then I got put in the special education teams and now its 51 and I don't want to talk about it.
Can someone please explain to me why it's considered so hard to climb as a solo player and how you NEED a premade to go anywhere?
As far as I've seen if there's a premade on the other team you'll also have one on yours so it's still balanced. If it was lopsided with teams full of solo players could go up against premades I'd understand but I've never seen that.
>>343747058
I got a bunch of Zenyatta randoms in quick play after I got fed up today and between that and my buddy damage boosting me it was downright hilarious how fast everyone was dying. Nothing like shooting a rocket at a tank and killing them from almost half HP.
>>343747134
nah I'm tired as fuck, gonna go sleep for like a day. this game wears you out so much when you're tryharding to infinity and beyond. I'm also a little hesitant to post my battletag on 4chan of all places
Played with my brother, got 43, expected to grind up a bit. But I've played dota so I know how it can be with a bit of bad luck.
Sure enough, did a 4 man queue with him and another friend and friend's gf. Tanked so hard. Our friend is "decent" but rages the fuck out and goes instant passive aggressive at the first sign of trouble. Gets hung up on abstract meta game stuff like D.Va being bad (which I'm OK with and wouldn't play her for a whole competitive match) yet picks Zenyatta and McCree. Can't resist to argue with the randoms in the game. So I tanked straight down to fucking 34 that night then the next day had 5 leavers in 5 games.
Tried the 4 man queue again tonight, same shit. Gonna slowly grind it back up with my brother and hope for no leavers.
>enemy team leaves
>no xp
>our team leaves
>gg no re
>>343743742
Honestly I'd never give you shit about it but I would definitely feel like you're gonna be dead weight at the beginning of the match.
>>343747253
I didn't mean now, I meant later today or tomorrow.
I myself have stayed up all night playing ranked and right now I'm worn out as hell, I couldn't play well even if I wanted to.
If you don't want to post your bnet, I can just post my steam, you add me on it and then we trade bnets. Though that seems like a bit of a bother.
I just don't know where to find good players anymore, everyone I know is sub 60, and I'm lucky if they're above 50.
>>343747248
I play with three friends, I'm guessing the game pairs us up with solo players since finding another group of friends sounds like a hassle.
One guy might not do much but three? We usually pick healer, tank and DPS and we're on fire 90% of the time.
>>343744116
Same here, went 7/3 and got ranked 54
>>343747421
nigga I went 7/3 and got ranked 40. how does this system work?
>>343743742
I feel she is OK if you can switch at some point. Often I'll pick her, do some harassing, and then switch off after a death or 2. Maybe switch back later.
I can't imagine playing her for a whole match. Almost never a good idea it seems.
>mfw 40% win ratio
>rank just keeps going down
Fuck this game
>>343743320
This guy is getting an animated spray, hot damn
>>343747462
it looks at your score/min, % of game on fire, how many medals you get, etc in addition to whether you won or lost. aside from mercy the game does a decent job of figuring out who's carrying the team, it's just that the scoreboard sucks so that data isn't player-facing. if you weren't playing mercy and got placed 40 going 7/3 then you got carried to olympus and back during those wins
>>343744831
We had a discord that got torn apart completely by the ranked system, it was instant salt mines.
>>343746112
crying motherfucking pepe, git gud and roll of retarded edges to cringe out of bound. This game gives you what you deserve, and with your ranking you are not 1337.
>>343744831
>Get placed at 61
>Friends placed at sub 40
There you go.
>>343739801
ME OOGA
TEAM BOOGA
>>343747603
No lie, I played the best I ever have in those placement matches. I set new records for myself, beating out my quickplay averages. I was finishing most of those games with 3-4 gold medals.
The only thing I can think of is that the three losses were in a row in the beginning because I was playing with a group of friends who aren't quite as good. Not sure if that effects anything though because the next seven wins were in a row.
>>343747834
were all of your wins on koth before thursday? koth was broken and wasn't adjusting rank correctly either up or down, but that got fixed
also it's a different game modes so you'll set new records because there's nothing to compare against.
>tfw I genuinely can't remember the last time I joined a game and someone didn't lock in Genji or Hanzo within the first 10 seconds
JUST
>>343747765
it's a very really thing in Overwatch unfortunately
As it so happens, forced 50 isn't real. 80% of the players are just fucking awful
I make no issue of coming to terms with my own shortcomings, but they're more often than not overshadowed by the ever greater shortcomings of my teammates
combined with the erratic point gain and loss, competitive is pretty much a gamble right now
>get placed at 50
>queue up
>lose a couple of games, 49
>ok
>lose a couple of games
>48
>O-ok
>lose a couple of games
>47
>wait
>win a couple
>48 again
>Alright the-
>lose a couple
>47
>...
>lose a couple
>46
>lose a couple
>45
>win a couple
>46
>lose a couple
>45
>lose a couple
>44
>lose a couple
>43
Every time you get down ranked you get put with shittier and shittier players making it harder and harder to go anywhere. This system feels completely pointless since it's random match making instead of premade teams against premade teams. The game is not designed around solo play, why even rank people on it?
>>343747834
One would assume that the single largest contributor to your placement rank is your team's rank vs enemy team rank. You're not going to jump straight to 70+ if you queue with your 5 rank 30 friends during placements.
>best player in game
>cant single handedly take on 6 people
>inevitably lose
>get downranked
>>343738496
Eh, I'm fine as it is. Just wish my teammates would talk a bit more.
>>343747946
I meant personal records. My comp stats are better than my quick play with more total healing, elims, and final blows.
Anyway, now that I think about it, yeah, most - if not all of those games were KOTH. I actually didn't know it was broken.
>>343748086
I think it fucked with my MMR because after those losses it became incredibly easy to overwhelm players on the enemy teams.
>>343747964
>80% of the players are just fucking awful
I'm pretty sure all the league retards jumped into the Overwatch boat.
I never met people this fucking awful when I played TF2 like 6 hours a day, but hey I'm finally getting my aim back after not playing a competitive shooter in like over half a decade so it's not all bad
>>343747371
well, send me an email to one of my throwaways and I'll add you I guessit's from when I signed up for the beta with seven extra b.net accountsI didn't get in with any of them
>>343748231
Are you me? I've heard horror stories of LoL's community, but despite shitty F2Pers, TF2 was always pretty good.
>>343748374
>>343747371
forgot to actually put the email in there apparently, narfow1 at gmail
>>343747962
The problem is with the way the game is designed to make everyone feel good about how they're playing.
Hanzo is vastly outshined by widowmaker in every aspect of his kit, but the problem is that he's designed to reward lower skill so people use him as a crutch.
Worse than widowmaker by anyone with skill, but unskilled players can't even land shots with widowmaker and need the log hitboxes.
The problem then becomes players never learning how to play the game at a higher skill level because they're never forced into just learning to fucking aim.
I can't even argue against it with randoms, because I'd rather have a hanzo than a useless widowmaker when I just want to win, all I can do is explain this to my friends in quickplay but that doesn't help fix the community.
>>343748426
>LoL's community
More of a cesspool really, but yeah.
It could also just be demographic changes, back when TF2 came out videogames were a lot less mainstream so all the normies didn't infect the pool
>>343747962
>tfw I genuinely can't remember a game when someone didn't take tracer when we were on defense instead of taking winston
>tfw I genuinely can't remember a game when someone didn't take pharah in defense instead of a second support, or even Mei
>tfw I genuinely can't remember a game when someone didn't take McCree while in defense, when they could have taken a Bastion or a Torb.
>>343748231
A lot of Leaguebabbies jumped/are jumping over to Overwatch.
It's crazy how much raging and whining I've seen in competitive so far
>>343748454
I wish they'd at least give us a real scoreboard in competitive mode. the whole point is to see how you stack up against other players, yet we're not allowed to see the specifics during a match? I feel like if more people could actually see how fucking badly they're playing compared to their teammates during comp they'd stop playing garbage or start picking tanks instead of thinking they're capable of being the carry
>>343743505
Did you win all 10 of them?
>>343748571
one of the issues was that LoL was a containment that got breached by riot's shitty actions
people went to the closest game like it (as in team-based objectives, not moba, else they'd go to dota) and that happened to be overwatch
it does mean that my banter gets a lot of rage though
>>343742597
I was gonna agree with you until you talked about medals.
medals shitters are the worst people.
>>343744258
>Comic Sans
Must be legit
>>343748723
>pissing the 5 pre-made baddies on your team off with bantz
Best feeling in the world, man.
calibrated at 57, got up to 59 then slowly tapered down to 56 despite having a positive winrate. Decided to just wait for now and see if they're adjusting how it works at all, because its just frustrating watching your rank drop so much from a single loss, then not get that rank back within 3 wins
>>343747964
How come pro players are making smurf accounts and getting to in their fucking placements?
You can carry in this game. You just need to pick the right character.
>>343748618
>not taking phara in defense
>wanting to pick Mei at all
>wanting to take Bastion or FUCKING TORB
what is your ranking again?
>>343748928
>people already making smurfs
>1 week into comp
What the fuck?
>>343748928
getting to rank 77*
>>343748928
because they can calibrate high enough to avoid most of the bad players
I know that sounds like bullshit, but I've seen too much shit to believe anything else
You can pull the weight of a few players, but you can't do jack diddly shit if all of your team is worse than the other team
>>343748160
tfw the matches I've been getting recently
I can't play for more than 4-5 matches anymore, because it's so fucking exhausting carrying teams. Since the other day I've stopped playing solo, it's not worth the effort. Rather just get 2 other people that know how to play.
>Be rank 60
>Drop down to 48 because I only play support and literally every team I was in for the past 10 games was full of retards doing dumb shit like double hanzo or mei on offense
Is it even possible to get to rank 70 as support?
some people in here were talking about why you'd que solo: it's because there are two different ranks. one for solo and one for party. you can win more solo games if you:
1.) bought the origins edition of the game
2.) spend a lot of money on loot crates.
basically how the MM system works (and it does this in LOL, dota, anything that has a controlled mm system) is over time the game collects analytical data based on how you play. it also collects what you say on voice and in chat. so for example someone who spends a lot of money could be labeled a "good earner" now this is blizzards cash cow and they need to give them a lot of extra wins so what do they do? they pair these "earners" up with "expendable" players. people who bought the 40 dollar version and nothing else.
the labels system is extremely complex and believe me- it knows EXACTLY who is good and who is bad. how else would they be able to rig a 50% enforced win rate so well?
the answer to all of this is get a pre-made party and forgo the solo rank. but even this isnt a guarantee heh...
>>343749160
>You can pull the weight of a few players, but you can't do jack diddly shit if all of your team is worse than the other team
I've seen players like Seagull, Pokey, and that Tracer main pro literally carry their entire teams with Tracer/Genji/McCree. Like holy shit this guy had like 20k damage on Tracer and 60 eliminations one game.
>>343749160
However anon, the matchmaking has enough players to warrant putting you with people at your skill level, at most you play against ONE player that is like five or six levels higher than the lowest level on the team.
You can carry your own weight and your team's weight if you play the right heroes.
It is no surprise that the people that can get that far up like Seagull and Surfeour and Ster play high impact heroes like Pharah, Soldier 76 and Genji, and they play them really well.
Some games you will not be able to win no matter what, and some games you will win even if you play like shit, but, on average, you'll be matched against and with people around your skill level, at which it's your job to carry your team if you really want to climb.
It is well known that in these types of ranking systems, people who get carried to higher ranks don't take long go back to their previous skill level.
It happens in Dota, it happens in CSGO, it happens in LoL and it happens in Overwatch.
You just have to accept it.
>>343749343
Was that koth? If so that is not impressive at all.
>>343749343
those players are streamers right? remember how blizzard kept giving invites to them? they are favored. they get good team mates and paired against bad ones. its all labels...
>>343749251
In solo queue yes. You need to git gud at something that can carry.
>>343749404
20k damage and 60+ elims is impressive on KOTH if it only goes to 3 games.
>>343748960
C9 was playing every game as a full six stack, but I guess people got a little tired of their shit so pretty much no one above 75 even plays in full six teams anymore except for them and Envyus. I guess Surefour got bored of not playing so he made a new account and powered it up to 81 in one sitting on stream over the weekend - bear in mind that his main account is tied in 2nd place at 82, and now his alt account is #4 as well.
I played one game with him and one game against him and... yeah. The man is a fucking god at hitscan characters. I'm not sure many other people could pull off something that insane, even some of the other high 70 or low 80 players.
I used to think he was hacking during the beta (as did everyone else), but after seeing his performances on LAN tournaments and playing with/against him this weekend I don't anymore. He really is just that good. It's a little scary to witness, but that's e-sports for you. There's always going to be some ridiculous young kid that seems inhumanly good.
>>343748689
>I feel like if more people could actually see how fucking badly they're playing compared to their teammates during comp they'd stop playing garbage or start picking tanks instead of thinking they're capable of being the carry
You'd feel wrong. People would keep playing because they'd have the mentality of "If only I try a little bit harder, I can do it!" and then the match is over.
And at the end of a game, they see how shit they did, anyhow. If they keep playing shit, you'd think they'd stop playing Widowmaker, but what happens instead is they start thinking they were "unlucky".
>>343749453
its not impressive because their games are intentionally rigged. blizzard is a libtard company pushing an agenda. anything that has a PRE MADE MM SYSTEM should NOT be taken seriously as it can be controlled behind the scenes.
>>343749540
And here I thought you had a legitimate argument.
>>343749343
Surefour? That guy smurfed with Tracer all last week.
I feel bad for anyone matched against him since it's a guaranteed loss unless you have an entire team 70+.
I haven't played competitive since my placement matches.
>>343749540
>their games are intentionally rigged
I hope to god you don't actually play in competitive. Then again, if you do I'm sure you're low 40s or worse so I'll never have to deal with you.
>Stomp my calibrations
>Golds across the board
>Only get 44
>Stop playing for a bit because 44 really?
>That's some bullshit
>Decide to solo queue last night
>Carry every game on my back in a flawless win streak until I stopped at 53
How many more games do I have to play until the enemy team stops being shit?
>>343749343
>>343749397
>players that played the game for months and months before everyone else can do it! why can't you?
it's like you ignored the first sentence of my post
there's also the fact that internal mmr carried over from the beta
meaning closed beta players are primarily playing with other closed beta players
>overmeme
>competitive
>>343749724
and here come the shills...
sorry buddy but anyone who uses their eyes and brains can tell something is wrong with these pre made MM systems. there are 100's of people in this thread who know something is not right.
>>343748160
If you're good enough you'll slowly (sometimes quickly) climb regardless.
>>343749724
you'll get dragged up and down by literally thousands of players in this game so why are you singling me out specifically? you are delusional.
>>343749826
>there's also the fact that internal mmr carried over from the beta
Proof?
Sounds interesting.
>>343749952
one of the blizard developers confirmed it. im not going to dig it out for you just check the recent news on battlenet.
>>343749952
all of the streamers listed in those posts have said as much, which they got straight from blizzard
>>343750020
again proof they are favored..
>go 5-5
>worried I'll get calibrated at like 35 or smth
>still get 51
I've seen people who go 7- 3 get around 50 too so I guess the system actually does account for more than your wins and losses.
>>343750105
yeah it accounts on your label, how much money you spend, and if you're a shill for the company (like a streamer)
>>343749863
Oh, it's got some seriously fucking problems alright, but it's not "intentionally rigged." It's just broken because it got rushed out the door. Coin flip is stupid, winning team getting shafted by the losers having someone leave is stupid, the KotH bug was stupid but thankfully got fixed, not just fucking using stopwatch for every mode instead of this overly complicated, time wasting, match extending time bank retardation makes me want to tear my goddamn hair out, etc.
>>343750085
I barely played in beta - only played on stress test and the open beta - and my QP MMR was high enough that I was playing with streamers and pros fairly often when I solo queue'd. If your QP MMR was shit at the start of your placements - and it uses that as a starting point, you don't start at 50 - then you aren't going to place as high as people that are starting from a higher point and still won.
Basically, if your MMR is shit you're probably shit. The ONLY exception is support mains.
>>343748696
I lost 3 and got 60
>>343750013
>>343750020
So no proof.
rip
>>343749826
Well anon I climbed all the way to 62 from 54. I know someone who's 73 at the moment, and he calibrated 58.
There's tons of players at that range, if they can do it, why can't you? Do you really think it's arbitrary and it has nothing to do with skill?
>>343750291
>It's just broken because it got rushed out the door.
hi friend. your points are valid and fair but i just want to point out that this is false- reason is it copies the exact same matchmaking system used in dota/lol. its not broken. its working 100% as its supposed too.
>>343750429
I know someone whos 76 and he bought over 100 loot boxes.
>>343750504
I bought 0 loot boxes, your point?
>>343750358
there is proof out there as plain as the fucking sky and the road you walk on. its almost like somewhere along the line your brain degenerated into a chimp like state and you're basically either 1.) incapable of reading or 2.) intentionally naive either way here's your banana reply retard
>>343750580
Where's the proof?
>>343750504
I'm 64 and bought no loot boxes.I'm also only level 43.
>>343750628
its on the blizzard forums. check battlenet, check reddit too. hell even google will suffice. im amazed you have the ability to type and use a computer at all.
>>343743843
That's just not true, a friend and I played all 10 placements together and I got placed at 50 while he got 51.
>>343750702
I checked the forums and reddit but don't see anything.
Link?
>>343750448
what do dota/lol have to do with time bank or the sudden death coin flip? they're the biggest problems with competitive right now (aside from no hero limits leading to people pulling out cancer comps on said sudden death flips to cheese a rush win).
well, that and mercy damage boost gives zero score/fire, so mercy mains look like they're not doing much unless their team is taking a ton of damage and they have loads of people to heal. even then, most of the time you're better off letting your team die and then reviving them since trying to heal all the damage risks dying yourself and then not being able to revive at all.I almost never play support but I have good friends that have been willing to main Mercy in comp, and despite being great players they've gotten totally fucked.
>>343750930
Wait it keeps track of offensive assists but gives no reward for them? Fuck that shit
>>343750851
He's shitposting
>>343750930
>what do dota/lol have to do with time bank or the sudden death coin flip?
hey dude sorry if i was unclear. i thought you were talking about the way it pairs players up with each other ergo the 'matchmaking system'
how it decides that is a copy of the other 2 games. but the other problems you mentioned are on blizzard yes.
>>343751052
Shayed got given mid 50 skill rating despite being a pretty insane Mercy main.
regardless of shitters, I think awful mei players are the worst
>friend announces he is ulting as pharah
>mei walls to "protect" herself, directly in front of ulting pharah
>pharah kills herself, we lose game
i just won 7 matches in a row where someone on the enemy team left after 30 minutes of play to recieve miniscule exp. this was from level 57 to 58, i almost made it to 58 then lost a one sided stomp to a stack of 65+ all in one party in 20 minutes on Anubis. I lost all of my progress from that night and was deranked to all the way to the start of 56. this is so fucking stupid
>>343748009
Sorry to tell you, but obviously you got carried by randoms in your placements and you are one of the many getting sucked into the abyss where you actually belong over the next weeks.
>>343751156
Skill rating isn't affected by anything but wins/losses in relation to other ranks.
Can anyone give me tips when playing 6 premade? I have more success with solo que or duo then with 6. Any comps, tips, something?
>>343751268
This. Your rank after placement is generally volatile and will stabilize or correct itself over time to your 'true rank' since it's more than 10 matches to decide your elo.
If you drop like 10 ranks that quickly after placements, then you just got carried in your matches.
>tfw rank 49
I am so bad at this game, kill me
It really doesn't help that my teammates won't communicate and pick three torbs on attack.
I'm definitely not good, but somehow, they are worse than me.
>>343751052
Yeah, it's total bullshit. Zenyatta gets a full 100 point credit for a kill if he puts discord on it even if he doesn't hit them at all - as long as someone else kills a dude with the extra damage from his orb Zenyatta gets full credit for the kill. Mercy? Damage boost someone and they can get full 100 kills yet they'll get nothing from that offensive (or defensive) assist. It's fucking retarded.
>>343751156
C9 Adam managed to climb up pretty high since he's been part of their team stack, but yeah, same thing, got placed mid 50s IIRC. It's so stupid.
>>343751120
I honestly don't mind the dynamic queue, I just wish it forced everyone to join team chat. I don't care if groups want to chat with themselves in QP, but in competitive you need to talk to your team.
The real problems are the ones that actually affect how your rank moves up and down based on the outcomes of games. Win stopwatch yet lose the coin flip and therefor the match on a payload map with an easy first to attack? Horrible. Crush a team with higher MMR than you but the one random that's not part of their 5-stack leaves in the last 30 seconds? Have fun getting almost no rating progress because the game is now tainted. Disconnect from a game for mere seconds, rejoin, and win the game for your team? LOL FUCK YOU HAVE A FULL LEVEL LOSS
>>343750930
it disgusts and sickens me to know that this casual watered down game with its forced 50% win rate and pathetically low tic servers is going to be forced to be a major e-sport because blizzard has the billions to put behind it to do so
I hope to god it suffers the same fate as the pro scenes of hearthstone and hots
the game is fun, but it is NOT an e-sport worthy game, not even fucking close, it's going to be the same as the others, the top players change every season because the skill ceiling is so fucking low anyone can play at the top level and people get bored of it and quit
>>343751376
get them to spend more money in game.
>>343751308
That's not true. You gain points when you win, but how many is determined by how much the game thinks you contributed to the win, which seems to only rate damage and eliminations as such.
to the moon
>>343751463
>the game is fun, but it is NOT an e-sport worthy game, not even fucking close, it's going to be the same as the others, the top players change every season because the skill ceiling is so fucking low anyone can play at the top level and people get bored of it and quit
which is why almost one can even take a round off C9 or Envyrus, right? if anything the pro scene has been stale because the top teams are so dominant that no one has been able to budge them.
git gud shitter
Got drunk together with one group of friends and did placement matches. Got 42. Was fine with it, figured I could climb up seriously and would get points faster anyways.
Played some seriously with some different friends that actually try, climbed to 55.
Played with first group of friends again. Went down to 51. Refuse to play competitive with these friends again. Drunk quick play only.
Don't know why I'm being such a fag about it.
>>343751593
this desu, it doesn't take a genius to realize fps skill ceilings don't exist
>>343751463
it will never be a pro game. blizzard is a powerful libtard organization but they cant keep a game popular enough while it has so many problems.
and remember the response blizzard gives to everything: "you think you wan't this but you don't"
if we're lucky this could be blizzards final nail in the coffin.
>>343738496
Anyone else noticed a problem with camera sensitivity?
Every time I play I have to tweak the settings to get it just right, next time I play it feels all wrong and have to tweak it again despite the number being the same.
What the fuck is going on?
>>343751593
>na scene
lmao you know when na is good in a game it has extremely low skill ceiling
>>343751721
Vsync
>>343751593
both c9 and Envrus have well known cheaters on their teams that have been banned and VACed from CSGO....
>>343751745
this is true. and a fact many degenerate SJW will have to deal with. there are too many 'special snowflake' americans out there who will never amount to anything without manipulation on their side. not everyone is created equal and in terms of being a strong competitive player- NA is in the bottom of the earths crust.
>>343751745
Envyus is an all European team that moved to the US (they even got a team house already, shit is crazy) because no one else in EU could even come close to them. EU OW scene right now is basically just Reunited shitting on a bunch of no name teams because literally everyone is playing in NA.
Overwatch ranked is retarded
sudden death is 100% garbage
getting a loss because one clown on your team leaves 5 secs into the match is 100% garbage
getting less MMR because an enemy quits 5 secs before the end of the game is 100% garbage
8/2 bros ww@
>>343751487
>but how many is determined by how much the game thinks you contributed to the win
There's no proof of this.
The reason why you lose/win more or less points is due to your team rank in comparison with the enemy team. That's why sometimes it'll tell you which team is the underdog - if you lose against the underdog you generally lose a full rank or more; if you win against the underdog you barely gain half a rank.
>>343744348
>slow
Only played one match, won that one though.
Normally I main Pharah but I might as well main Reinhardt because no one ever picks tanks on ps4, yet there are two Hanzo shitters doing jack shit. Should've gotten it on pc.
>>343751721
The game has input lag at low fps, I suggest you put all the settings at the lowest possible setting to get rid of the input lag.
>>343751502
Nice.
Group or solo?
I'm afraid to do so.
Because I don't know if I should solo placement or group placement.
>>343751923
yea cuz na sucks everywhere else CS:GO, Dota 2 and Quake so they try their hardest to hype overwatch as the next big e-sport meme game.
>>343751941
>There's no proof of this.
Yes there is. I did all of my placements with the same group of people. I placed 62, another 60, the rest ranged from 50 to 55. I was carrying the shit out of most of the matches because it turns out about half the team was shit and the other good players were playing Mercy/Rein/Lucio a lot of the time.
It gets funnier - in the games after that, I got the most progress out of wins 90% of the time despite still having the highest rating in the team. If it was purely based on relative MMR I should have been receiving the least, yet I was not. It's pretty obvious the game knew I was carrying the fuck out of my the shitters my friends invited. The worst part is they never realized how badly they were being carried and kept picking fraggers instead of dropping their ego and playing support/tank.
I'm pretty sure Blizzard even talked about how it was going to look at individual contribution in a post about how the matchmaking was going to work.
>>343752019
100% solo
>>343751941
Support mains have been getting placed lower than the rest of their team in placement matches, where the whole team didn't have a rank yet. So there is some hint that there is a system in place which does this.
>Play two ranked games yesterday
>Do REALLY well, mostly luck and coincidence
>Join 3-5 games today
>"Oh wow, Delta? From yesterday?"
>"Gotta add you, man"
>"Good to be teamed with you again"
>"Oh you wrecked us yesterday, glad you're on our team"
>these expectations
>play garbage
How small are the EU servers?
>>343752274
proof can easily be fabricated
>>343752224
>Yes there is.
>Goes on to post anecdotal evidence
There have been plenty of people on /v/ who were complaining that they didn't gain enough rank or lost too much despite getting 4-5 gold medals.
>>343738496
started 64 lost almost every match and now 59.
>tfw no one works together
>>343751593
This game's "pro scene" hasn't even had a chance to develop yet, nothing that is happening right now means anything, the game just fucking released there hasn't even been any official tourneys, sponsored players scrimming each other casually doesn't mean jack fucking shit, you should probably educate yourself on competitive shooters in general before you discuss stuff like this
>>343752335
what did they mean by this
>>343751989
I run a solid 60 on Ultra, my problem is mroe that it's going far too fast so I aim like shit.
I used to have it on about 60, moved it down to 30 and it feels virtually the same the next time I play it's weird as fuck.
57 and I'm never touching competitive again
at least i have some semblance of fun in quick play
>>343738496
I don't play competitive because I'm not literally autistic.
>Blizzard
>ACTIBLIZZ
>competitive
I hate that I have to cheer up everyone that loses so that no one gets ragey. Is being positive a bad thing in comp games?
>be winning the game
>one of the enemy players ragequits
>only get 1%
gg blizz
>>343752274
Mine hovers between 53-55.
Guess i'm home now.
>>343752298
>play Genji
>enemy team compliments me
>next match teams are shuffled
>suck
why
>>343752589
>Is being positive a bad thing in comp games?
it only really helps the insecure ones. everyone should realize that comp is there to be competitive.. they need to learn how to be aggressive. you can't be a baby in this environment. if everyone had this mindset games would be so much better. but we dont and we have all these 'special snowflakes' who just 'want to have fun' while playing ranked...
the answer is- being positive only can help so much. you should tell these ppl to fuck off and do quickplay.
I am not touching ranked till they remove hero stacking. Shit is unfun as fuck and just leaves meta bullshit
>>343738496
>>343752879
what'd you do?
>>343743742
Sneaky /pol/, I see you.
Get out of this liberal hellhole while you still can.
>>343752916
probably talk like a 14 year old black kid raised in the ghetto by his mother who works 2 jobs and the father left because he is a delinquent who robbed a person who actually works for a living and was sent to prison
>>343752298
>play Junkrat on ToA
>mad defensive skills getting the enemy team demolished
>22-0 and they just stop trying to get the first point with 30 seconds remaining
>get play of the game without using the ult
>some dude complements me and my PotG
>mfw
>play like absolute trash the next 5 or so games and lose
Just fucking kill me
>>343752771
I suppose I'll keep quiet. I just think that people should use their mics more. Can't tell you how many teams I've gotten won't use a mic and then get upset because no-one is calling out flankers/ults.
>>343752958
no you must fight them. if you just leave they will take over.
The fact that nobody can actually describe how the ranking system works for sure without assumptions speaks volumes.
>>343752916
I don't really expect them to give a shit but eh
>>343752451
Input lag exists even at 100+fps
At this game you want 200fps ideally, I play at 160fps with some dips to 120.
INPUT LAG EXISTS EVEN AT 100FPS JUST SO YOU KNOW
>>343753271
16 tic as well.
>>343753183
>leaving the fucking computer during a ranked match
>complain that you're getting banned
the whole point of rejoining is for freak disconnects, not for going afk and coming back
if you're going afk while queuing, that's also your fault
>>343753271
Mine seems locked at 60, how do you get around it?
>>343753396
Turn off vsync and lower your graphics?
Everyone worth shit at this game is playing at the lowest settings.
>>343753396
nigga do you know vsync?
>>343753396
in the options there's a way to disable the FPS lock. mine is around 120.
>>343753393
shit can come up.
some people actually exist outside of their computer.
not people so fat they literally can't walk away from their computer
WHY IS THERE ALWAYS A HANZO ON MY TEAM
WHAT THE FUCK
WHYYY
According to my friend and his friends who are on the top 200 leaderboards and some who are on C9
Only 6 man if you're really good, if not you'll play other 6 mans
So 3 man q is great
Main Pharrah, Zarya, or Genji to carry hard
I was on 53, then dealt with a shitload of crappy teams, and went down to fourty fucking three, but now I'm at 47 and climbing up again hopefully.
>>343753484
i'm not sure why you'd even play competitive if you aren't ready to dedicate time to it
yes, shit can come up. one or two disconnects doesn't matter. but when you've been banned before, you have to be aware that you need complete attention to the game or you risk getting banned
>>343753393
Fuck that, I didn't pay 40$ for a game only not to be able play it to the full exent just because they jerk off to some retarded notion of "serious mode".
