https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fU2QG-lV0
>>343707102
>advertising for a site you own without disclaiming you own it
Holy shit, that's literally illegal.
>>343707102
Let's all be honests here
Valve is a fucking scam company
they release 2-3 games every 10 years and people fall for their shit online games
If you want to waste money, there are much better options.
On top of that, you have to be always online to play the games and while it's good regarding updates/patches, it's fucked up if you don't have internet access.
>post yfw Valve gets hit with billions of dollars of lawsuit judgments and Federal fines and needs to make HL3 to save themselves financially
E-celebs and youtube drama are not video games.
Also, Valve was losing the CS:Go audience and "out of sudden" the millions of players came back in 2014
It's totally, 100% scam.
>>343707952
but its about CS:go not the guy talking about it
>>343707952
You people need to stop being retarded for once in your lives
>>343707886
>>343707892
STOP THIS SHITTY MEME
Valve is not responsible for third party sites offering gambling of CSGO skins
>>343708146
>but its about CS:go
>a-actually, its about ethics in games jurnalizm!!!
its not about CS:GO, its about two youtubers pretending to be unaffiliated with a gambling site they are promoting. Valve has literally nothing to do with third party gambling sites.
>>343708001
Are you seriously alleging that Valve is faking the playercounts?
>>343708291
Aside from the fact Valve participates by allowing them access to Steam inventories. Valve's going to get fucked big time.
>>343708319
You can stop shitposting now
>It's okay when Blizzard does it
>>343707952
It has to do with Valve and CSGO gambling scams, an Eceleb is just presenting the information
>It's a ((h3h3)) gets mad at other youtubers for making more money than them and ((Ethan)) attacks them over nothing episode
>>343708319
Valve has allowed you to link your steam account to these websites so they are involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9RjDRLBWio
one of my favorite videos about the subject
how did ethan become le hardhitting youtube reporter
ban kids from the web though
>>343707892
valve might get damaged, but syndicate et al. would lose way more 2bh
>>343708602
>attacks them over nothing
They literally broke the law for something they were busted by the FTC for doing before
>>343708501
Is it?
>VAPE NAYSE XD
>youtube drama
>>343707102
>Paid by CS Go Lotto
>Hey stupid goyim let's go there it's a friendly place you will earn lots of money
>Ohhhhhhhhhh it just happens I own the website but don't worry it's 100% random
>>343708376
They got back some half million people with their skin shit and 2 days later on their website
>CS: GO REACHES 5 MILLION USERS
3 weeks later
>NEW RECORD 15 MILLION USERS
>>343708497
>>343708623
That case has no legs. I can create a website right now hosting illegal content and add a link for your to log in via steam onto the site. Is Valve suddenly responsible for the illegal content?
>retards wrongfully thinking this is about valve and not syndicate & youtuber cunts literally breaking laws
>>343708795
Valve has to whitelist the site thus they are responsible for vetting them.
>>343708795
It's not that, it's how much the cs skin is friendly to gambling and given the fact that 99,9% of skins are purchased through illegal means such as "CS Lotto" ...
>>343707892
what am I gonna do with all my steam games
>>343708907
You could argue that Valve enables it
When will video games finally die? When will they realize that making things is bad?
I'm so sick of the game developers developing games, they make me so sick.
I wish games would hurry up and die. They'll send kill squads to every house and destroy ever gaming PC and console you own, only then can we be truly happy.
>>343708795
Thats not how third party linking works
>>343707952
NIGGER
>>343708635
>those first :40
>retards probably spent more than $600+ for a $100 knife
>western gaming
>>343709000
No you can't. You can argue valve shouldn't allow those under 21 to buy csgo boxes, but otherwise no. You can sue the fuck outta these youtubers for all their worth though, get to it~
>Goyims, great news. Gamble at CS Lotto
>No, I'm not the owner I don't even have access to the way the website operates
>The website is total fair and will never scam you
LOL
>>343708501
Who are you quoting?
>>343707102
>I owned a pot like 69 dollars
>very small pot like
>but like coolest feeling ever
This is the power of the millennials
>Valve exploits retards
Who cares. It doesn't affect the actual game like other games with microtransactions. This is literally the best system but people will shit on it regardless because someone always has to complain.
>it's illegal for a lender refers you to an appraiser they are affiliated with for a home loan
>it's illegal for a doctor to refer you to a hospital they're a part owner of
>car dealerships are legally required to give you a refund for your car if its proven to be defective
Holy shit. Vidya is a $90+ billion dollar a year industry. Why the fuck don't consumers have similar rights as compared to other industries?
>Should they have disclosed they own it
Of course
>Are CS:GO and gambling sites malicious and have ill intent towards children?
No go fuck yourself. Don't blame the platform blame whichever retarded teenagers spend all of mommy's money then try to sue.
>Is this a huge deal?
No jesus fuck who cares
>>343709471
that's literally not the point you fucking idiot
holy shit can you pay attention for longer than 30 seconds
>>343709574
Because gamers are the dredge of media.
I hope Valve gets in deep shit for allowing illegal gambling. Theyre such an awful company that for some reason people love to give money to.
Thank god for pc piracy otherwise all of those games you bought on steam wont be playable when they eventually go under or Gabe fucks off to his remote island
I'm so glad that some jews trying to overthrow rich jews. Maybe they will start making videogames again, but probably nothing will change. Greedy fucks will always find a way how to rob stupid people and do nothing.
>pc gaming
>>343708497
I hope these guys realize they're actually not just fighting Valve, they're also fighting Blizzard (loot boxes) and Activision (supply drops). There's no way this actually has any repercussions for any of those companies.
>>343708497
>Michael John McLeod
>McLeod
MACLEOD!!!!!!
>>343709748
But CSGO is multiplatform:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
>people are only just now figuring out CSGO is online gambling
>>343709748
t. sony cuck
>>343709720
>I hope Valve gets in deep shit for allowing illegal gambling
Fuck off you autistic saint.
You're the same type of people that are fine with underage drinking, that yes happens fucking everywhere, but once an e-celeb you like calls out underage gambling it's al like "OMG VALVE IS SO EVIL :((("
>>343708795
>Is Valve suddenly responsible for the illegal content?
Valve absolutely should regulate the websites they allow to interact with Steam. In that way, they bear at least some of the responsibility.
>>343709819
>multiplatform
>like those 15 children playing CS Go on Xbox One
>>343709618
What's the point? Valve trying to make money? What, you want them to jew people like Blizzard and EA by scalping our games? Fuck off, this is the best system.
>>343709796
The sad thing is most of /v/ won't understand the reference
>>343708959
>>343709023
I can update the site to host illegal content AFTER whitelisting. Is Valve responsible? How is Valve even supposed to know some 2bit youtubers are off illegally promoting their website? How is valve supposed to keep tabs on every gambling website that pops up?
it's actually better that it's targetted to kids, because kids don't have a large income, if any, it's not like they could go into dept if they tried
being against gambling in itself is just stupid. it's only illegal because the government can't profit off of unregulated cash flow
>>343709819
Chances are he's a massive weeb with a ps4 and vita that plays only yellow metacritic score idol/loli trash.
Not worth the headache.
>>343709103
if you open crates you get a ton of donations as a twitch streamer
for some reason these are the streams people love to watch
This has literally nothing to do with Valve
Do you think they aren't protected from this?
https://steamcommunity.com/dev/apiterms
>>343707102
Shame on you for actually thinking you YouTube community whiteknight morals would resonate with a group of degenerates that actually have a bit of common sense.
This is nothing more than drama on the part of the site owners. Absolutely nothing wrong with Valve or Gambling sites
>>343709876
Do you buy your underage booze with your underage gambling?
An adult has to buy alcohol for an underager like yourself, actual underage gambling with thousands of dollars cant be done anywhere but the internet. Theres a reason casinos have such tight security, and your local 7 eleven doesnt.
>>343709996
>Is Valve responsible?
Yes. Vetting isn't a one time process, it's continual.
>>343709975
fuckin' lmao
The point of the vid is that the owner of CS Lotto is promoting his own site through supposed scripted betting videos.
>>343709975
No, it's not even about valve at all. Ethan was giving a background on what gambling in relation to the game even is. The focus is these youtubers trying to exploit csgo players for their own wealth - breaking numerous laws from not mentioning sponsorships or that you own the damn gambling company.
>idiot kids gamble and lose money
>"this isn't fair im going to sue"
America ladies and gentlegoons
>>343708319
Stop being retarded please.
>>343709574
video games are children's toys and children don't rights.
>>343709975
>What's the point?
if only there were some kind of video you could watch on the subject to inform yourself instead of shitposting
>>343709876
>>343709884
You guys don't get it. The skins was already meant for this in the first place
Or you do you SERIOUSLY think that CS bet making billoins of dollars go directly to that dumb white trash people?
No, of course not. Those retards can't even make a fake reaction video, let alone a fucking gamgling company.
the only good game valve made was vanilla tf2
I really hope for Valves sake they lose the case and would have to pay out billions. Maybe that will make them wake the fuck up and start making games again
>>343710132
>whiteknight morals
>Absolutely nothing wrong with Valve or Gambling sites
Neo /v/
>>343709796
WOAH-OH-OH-AH-AH-AH-AAAA-HA-AH-AH-AH
>>343710139
>Do you buy your underage booze with your underage gambling?
That sentence didn't make any sense
>An adult has to buy alcohol for an underager
So hypothetical here, let's say they slap a "Pls be 18+ to use our site" Do you actually think that will stop teens from using it? You're retarded.
Kids barely have money to play with, the ones that do and fuck themselves over suck and the onus is on the parents. Just like the simple purchase of anything online.
>>343709574
Everyone sees games as toys.
It's why nobody gives a shit.
>>343710358
why would they start making games again (something that costs millions) after losing millions, when they can just wait a couple months and make that much off steam game sales...
literally use your fucking head retard
>>343709983
Most of /v/ was probably born 15 years after the movie
>mfw if Valve gets sued they'll realize they can't make successful games by only having microtransactions in them
>mfw trading communities could potentially go back to trading in-game items for other in-game items instead of having a set system of currency
>mfw they might be forced to actually make games again instead of just updating 5+ year old games with more DLC if they want to look like a video game company anymore
>>343710494
>why would valve undertake activities that generate a profit
Gee, I wonder
>>343710132
If you think skin gambling promoted by Valve is bad
>WHITEKNIGHT MORALIST
>>343710421
>I'm unable to make sound arguments so i'll call you out and put you in an arbitrary category!!
>suing Valve for what people do with in-game items
what's next, someone's gonna sue McDonald's for making them fat? oh wait, people ARE that fucking stupid
I see keys and skins more like buying trading cards then downright gambling.
But instead of getting a whole deck of worthless cards you get one worthless virtual card.
>>343710343
HL1 and Portal are great you faggot.
>Fat jew who doesn't even play video games and is just a friend of JonTron whining about how other people make money
>>343710586
It seems you have difficulty reading, that's ok friend!
>ITT /v/irgins show a lack of understanding of tort law and duty of care
Can I sue Nintendo for encouraging gambling with their pokemon booster packs?
>>343710586
Im not sure anybody told you this but hats are more profitable than games. This is the world we live in
>>343710615
>sound arguments
>MUH AMORAL PRINCIPLES
>WHITE KNIGHT SUCKERS
>MUH GAMBLING
>>343710784
Yes, you can
>>343710358
Why? This case doesn't have a leg to stand on, using valves steam api doesn't mean they endorse or operate your website
>>343707102
Libertarians will defend this.
>>343710636
Thing is a large number of people who buy skins are little kids who took their parents credit cart and it's said parents that are suing.
So it's more like suing McDonald's because your 11 year old brat took mommy's credit card and bought 100 burgers.
>>343710615
>he actually needs somebody to argue why jewing dumb teenagers like him is generally immoral
literally /b/-tier
If you're old enough to play with blocks, you're definitely old enough to play withglocks
>>343710907
you can't fucking sue people for what your shitty kids do
Ok so everyone FOR this. What do you propose?
All gambling sites slap an 18+ logo on it?
Strip game of all crates? No more microtransactions?
Please enlighten me how you solve this nonexistent problem
>>343711016
You fail to realize how lawsuit-happy a lot of Americans are...
>>343710636
theres a big difference between being fat and poor
and how is it not gambling, and not worthy of legal action? last I checked gambling's banned for anyone under 21, with kids not even being able to enter casinos
What Valve whiteknights need to realize is that it doesn't matter who you think has the blame, it only matters how the law sees it.
ITT: Retards who think using steam web API makes valve responsible for your website.
>>343710907
The way skin sell works is because steam allows it to be a profitable industry outside Valve community
>>343711016
well sometimes you can, a lot of warnings on products now is mostly due to kids fucking up and their parents suing.
same goes for other cases, like I think that woman who sued mcdonalds for making coffee too hot.
>>343711058
i wonder why jews were champions of liberty against excessive state power in the wake of world war ii
whatever could have happened to cause them to espouse this philosophy
hmmm
>>343711058
Jews also created communism, what's your point?
>>343710895
I know. Its just wishful thinking. Even in the worst case Valve are rich enough to get the best jew lawyer to bail them out of anything
>>343711016
I know, I'm just clarifying the situation better.
In this case it's not so much stupidity as so much frustration on their little Timmy wasting their retirement fund on virtual guns.
>>343711107
All gambling sites are legally required to put 18+
Nothing will happen, this case will be laughed out of court
>I-ITS SETUP LIKE A SLOT MACHINE!
Bruh, what the fuck. Why don't we go back in time to sue arcades while we're at it?
I fucking hate Ethan Klein now. What makes him the authority on this asinine bullshit? And he hasn't made a decent video in god knows how long...
>>343711112
Americans are lawsuit happy because of a lack of blanket consumer laws. Eurofags are preventive, Amerifags are reactive.
>>343709796
HEEEEEEEEEERE WE ARE
BORN TO BE KINGS
>>343711107
Remove trading/selling items. It's really the only way.
>>343711126
> last I checked gambling's banned for anyone under 21, with kids not even being able to enter casinos
But you're acting like that means something.
You know it's legal for teens to smoke but illegal for them to purchase it. Do you go on a hissy fit then?
It's illegal for teens to buy and drink alcohol, but are you going to pretend that like 1 in 3 teens don't drink.
Government laws =/= the one true righteousness
>>343707102
>h3h3
fuck
off
>>343710636
>food analogy
Being fat is not illegal, gambling is
>>343711058
>jews created communism
>jews created capitalism
>jews created libertarianism
>jews created feminism
>jews have got to be behind everything I dislike, ignore those behind the things I like
lay off the /pol/ meds friend
>>343711170
>the guys who made thing that a fraud site relies on aren't responsible for fraud site existing
I like how you buy into small print snake businessman talk without even realizing it.
>>343711058
>juxtaposition
>>343711308
Jews making societies function on money and/or politics because they know it will bring misery and destruction
>>343711331
>Middle aged man
>Teenage/Prepubescent fanbase
>Notices a lot of stupid shit going on around the internet
>Tries to take the role of daddy for all of them, and be some kind of moral high ground
It really is fucking stupid how he's trying to act like the Chaotic Good of the Youtube community now. Vape Nation was the last good video he made. All of this Leafy drama and bullshit bogged his channel way the fuck down.
>>343711107
Are you literally retarded? All anyone is asking for is for people to follow laws CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
State you own the fucking gambling site instead of pretending it's some random shit. Only allow adults to gamble regardless of ingame or on external sites like every 'online casino' place.
LITERALLY FOLLOW THE FUCKING L A W
>>343711112
Post more cute ruby
I fucking doubt that a "bunch of concerned parents" all got together for lunch and sue Valve for what little johnny bought with his daddy's card.
>>343711458
>>jews created communism
>>jews created capitalism
>>jews created libertarianism
>>jews created feminism
Indeed.
You are based anon.
>>343711329
that's exactly it. Just like how every fucking teenager uses porn sites that say 18+.
No one gives a fuck this isn't going to change anything. Theyre barking at the moon in regards to safety of a few retarded kids
>>343707102
>HEHE
Oh look, its the old guy that think he is funny.
>>343711421
>But you're acting like that means something.
You know suing for a class action lawsuit gets you money right? Assuming the argument is about the law, he has a point.
There is nothing wrong with gambling. Doesn't matter if it's kids, teaches them young the value of money.
>>343711484
Anyone can use the api. The api isn't responsible for anything. It doesn't make you gamble it doesn't make you bet. Valve isn't responsible. No matter how much you shitpost wanting it to be
>>343711592
Gladly.
>>343711661
Please never breed
>>343711615
fantastic job ignoring the rest of what i said ;)
>>343711421
I'm not saying this case is going to be the be all end all on gambling in-game items, but at the very least those involved follow the laws currently in place
Kids and teens are still going to gamble, just like how they still smoke and drink, but putting up legislation against it will decrease the number significantly
>>343711665
>I'm making this issue valve vs the world and I must defend valve
Anon, please. Stop with your libertarian readings and don't browse reddit for a week.
>>343708635
Why did this video scare me
Microsoft will own PC gaming completely again and bring back Flight Simulator.
Down w Valve!!!
>>343711557
>wahhhhh why isn't he making more maymay videos >:::::(((((((
>>343711646
But we're not talking about lawsuits because as we know, these lawsuits have no legs. It's like a pseudo loophole of skins =/= money so all these sites are fine who cares.
And clearly nothing has changed since all these sites are still up. People are getting mad and using "m-m-m-muh kids!" as an excuse to try to further regulate something that isn't really going to get regulated, only an 18+ slapped on it
>>343709792
you cant trade items in overwatch, and nothing is rare enough to fret over.
>>343707102
I didnt know Valve was so fucking disgusting, I only used Steam for stuff like Total War and Civilization.
>>343711557
It's really hilarious
He started off by copying MDE but realized how many more shekels he can rake in by doing what hes doing now
>>343711747
It's a free country. People can do whatever they want.
>>343711615
>>>jews created communism
True
>>jews created capitalism
true
>>jews created libertarianism
true
>>>jews created feminism
true
Based as always.
>>343711864
Damn, you overblew my reaction with a big emoticon, you really showed me.
>>343711810
It's moreso valve isn't responsible.
Keep shitposting my friend, you get no more (You)'s from me
>>343711840
the music
it's literally just "SPOOKY ADOBE PREMIERE BACKTRACK"
>>343710452
You know online gambling is illegal in the US, where Valve is based, right?
Idiot.
>>343711557
Vape Nation wasn't even good and it's a huge fucking meme and it upsets me. He used to be based making fun of pranksters, now he's got collabed with everyone and just turned to shit
>>343711984
>shitposting
>MUH WAR BETWEEN VALVE VS THE WORLD
fuck you.
>>343711840
That unsettling music, and that old guy at the end. Its like one of the documentaries where they talk about the horrible shit serial killers did to their victims.
>>343711963
it was true to form, enjoy
>>343711557
>possessing and advocating morality is bad, it's only entertainment that matters
You are a part of the problem.
>>343711996
>You know online gambling is illegal in the US, where Valve is based, right?
You know theyre under a legal loophole right now right? That's the reason all of these sites are still up.
Idiot.
>>343711963
>>343711670
You're a good xhe anon
>>343709594
t. Tmartn
He says that there is gambling in the game then skips it and goes to thirdparty gambling sites instead.
???
Having gambling in your game is not good.
>but these youtube people lied about their site so its far more important!!
What? It's okay for mobile phone shit like Hearthstone to let kids gamble but when Valve does it it's suddenly a problem? Funny how all this shit started after Overwatch came out and introduced loot box gambling.
Hmmmmm.
>>343711996
Yeah but valve isn't endorsing, supporting, or operating gambling services my friend
>>343709103
all hail konami and their glorious pachinko machines
eastern gaming rules!
ITT: 13 year old valve faggots thinking attacking what they are doing is attacking their god Gaben
Please, go masturbate or something. Or go back to your home (((reddit))) and stay there.
>>343712194
This seriously isn't a big deal. If you know anything about law, valve cannot be sued for this. CSGO skins have no inherent value, valve just goes some money when people sell them to each other. Other skin gambling sites aren't gambling because the skins aren't worth anything really
>>343707102
He is a fucking idiot. CSGO IS FOR 18+ ONLY. Its 13+ only for a steam account.
>>343712341
Seriously, is there a more defensive fanbase than Valvefags?
>>343711661
When does exploiting people's weaknesses become a good thing? Smart people should help and guide stupid people, not rob them.
>>343712109
You should check where those sites are based out of. Hint: they're not in the US
Like piracy, its a loophole that the gov't will go after in the US, ie, Valve will be greasing some politicians to not get sued to hell.
What happened to Ethan? His vids from a few years back were funny but now hes just a whiteknight redditor
>>343712285
Valve's been doing it for years, starting with TF2
>>343712482
Not an argument
>>343711421
It's the people enabling the gambling that are being demonised dipshit. I'm not going to blame kids for making dumb decisions, but when you seek to profit by encouraging harmful behaviour among people who don't know better you become scum. This goes for people selling cigarettes to underages as well as the ecelebs involved in this.
Not to mention this is fraudulent behaviour by any definition and rightfully illegal
>>343712486
So it's suddenly a problem? Bullshit.
>>343712482
He's getting a little older and starting a family.
He has a fanbase that tells him everything he does is amazing, even tho some of it sucks.
He has a pretty stable income.
>>343712318
Theyre allowing their "marketplace," which has money involved, to be exported to sites that are connected to illegal gambling. Its like saying the heroin seller isnt responsible for selling heroin because he didnt make the heroin himself
What's going on? Why is valve responsible for what other websites do? Can I sue Fromsoft and Namco because soulsfags annoy me
But you can gamble on anything.
Gambling is kinda retarded to be honest, i don't understand the appeal of it.
Shouldn't you be educating kids instead restricting them about something? People aren't dogs.
>>343708704
They didn't break any criminal law. If they broke anything it would be subjective enforcement the FTC has civilly. If anything happens and thats if, no one is going to jail, no one is getting fined. The FTC might send them a letter asking for voluntary compliance, thats about it.
>>343712642
I dont think TF2 gambling and trading ever reached the scale of CSGO
>>343712451
It's not quite defensive I think they are in the mindset of CS Go players and e-sports retards in general
"IF IF I-IF YOU EVER SAY 1 WORD AGAINST THE COMPANY THAT SPONSORS ME I WILL FUCK REMOVE YOU FROM MY FRIENDS LIST"
>>343712285
Overwatch gambling was an "accident", the developers DIDN'T KNEW OR PROMOTED IT I SWEAR!
>>343712462
Holy shit get a load of this faggot.
Ok guys let's pack up all internet porn, alcohol, smokes, everything. Because of course weak people can get a access to it right. Let's not exploit weaknesses.
>B-b-but all of those are adults only!
buying CSGO itself is 18+ via ESRB rating. But of course kids can get a hold of that too!!
Let's get rid of everything!
Pretty sure CSGO has an age rating of 18+ so valve isn't at fault. Its the fault of parents not keeping watch of their kids and letting them play or get involved with things beyond their age rating and giving them access to credit and debit cards.
>>343712462
If you are stupid enough to spend money on cosmetic skins then you deserve to be exploited.
>>343712742
They are providing the currency and allowing users to link into their marketplace.
If you had to jump through several loopholes, valve would have a leg to stand on.
But the fact that you can literally sign into your steam account on gambling websites is a smoking gun.
Gambling is regulated as fuck in most countries. Valve is gonna get rekt.
>>343711432
>d-do i fit in now guys? :]
watch the fucking video retard, it concerns valve and the not so bright future of steam
god I really hope they lose this case so you pkeks are forced to use origin instead...
>>343712642
It started as a problem in csgo since kiddies grew up from CoD and got into that instead, then the le wacky Youtube people came along and made videos about them opening boxes.
And another thing is that you actually see what you could've gotten in the box as it spins through unlike tf2.
Gabe is laughing. He's laughing at us.
>>343712860
>18+
17+
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=100491&Title=Counter-Strike%3A%20Global%20Offensive
>>343712482
He's becoming a family man.
I hope Valve wins. The people sueing Valve are mad as fuck they gamble and lost.
Fucking cucks, rofl.
>>343707102
>playing counter stricke past beta 5
Kek.
Valve does not organzize any form of gambling. Why should they get held responsibile for others doing that? Thats like you getting arrested because people massively started betting on you doing mundane shit.
Sites G2A and Kinguin put money into that stuff by paying people to cheat their skins into the game and actively supporting the illegal community with money.
But okay - It's impossible to sue chinks and so everyone now wants Valve to take responsibilty.
>>343713034
Go back to fucking reddit or whatever hellhole you came from you absolute fucking autist.
>>343713021
You can log in any site if you have the api
Even porn sites if you wanted.
Using the api ≠valve endorsing your site.
>>343709996
>vet a site
>don't make sure they follow TOS
You are a tremendous faggot.
>h3h3
fuck off underage
>>343713046
Age ratings differ for countries and I'm not familiar with american ratings but is that the highest rating other than the adult/porn rating they can give?
Valve is going to remove their api forever inconveniencing a ton of developers and this retard suing isn't going to see a single dime
What >>343713189 said
5. Limited Relationship. You and Valve are independent contractors, and nothing in these API Terms of Use shall be construed as creating an employer-employee relationship, a partnership, or a joint venture. While you may publicly refer to the fact that you have implemented the Steam Web API, you agree not make any other public statements that assert or imply any other relationship with Valve, unless you have Valve's prior written approval.
Can someone tell me if valve can get in trouble for this? how is it their fault
>>343713189
Valve gave them specific access to their network to allow sign in through valve's protected servers. You're wrong.
>>343713247
kek
>>343713146
>Valve does not organzize any form of gambling
>Valve drop skins "By accident"
>you open the chest and win a skin "by accident"
>you sell it in their valve community
LOL
>>343707102
youtubers are shady, gamers are morons, and skin crates are retarded, yes I know this.
Splicing in "OH MY GOD, THE CHILDREN!!!!!!" every minute wont make me feel like I should cry tears of sadness. you must be 18 to have a credit card or to have a steam account. if there are actually cases of kids suffering from this and not just retarded 20something slavs then its because mommys drinking while lil jimmy is allowed to fuck away with his moms stuff. We didnt allow "think of the children" to take away our fun, dont become the virtue-signaling prick that tries to bring it back now that it doesnt bother you.
obviously they should disclose what they need to. that goes without saying. But Im sick of people trying to make others look bad by chiming in with "the kids/a kid!". especially "internet commentators/reactors" (and youtube personalities in general). its like they all suddenly realized theyre fucking cancer and are now trying to look like the not-cancer by throwing each other under the bus. and the easiest way of doing that is by going for the most basic fucking protective instinct in the world. "hes bad for kids! She takes advantages of kids! He's probably a pedophile! What if some KIDS saw this video this bad youtuber made?"
ugh
>>343713316
they are associated with the fraudulent company
more than enough reason for gabe to go to jail
>>343713404
RNG drops are not gambling.
I don't pay anything to get those drops.
>>343713304
>that image
So some a man with no life made this k
>>343707102
Did this guy have a stroke or something? Is English not his first language? He looks like he's struggling to move his mouth properly.
>>343713314
You can easily make the argument that valve did not do their due diligence in preventing underage users from accessing gambling sites.
Legal write offs like this are common, and they are never ironclad.
Counter Strike Global Offensive is rated M (17+)
>>343713446
>you must be 18 to have a credit card or to have a steam account
gambling under 21 is illegal
>>343713316
They can't, this case doesn't have a legal ground to stand on. Just a retard who lost his money trying to blame valve for his own problems
>>343713304
USA have a more stritic rating than M(mature 17+) but most games don't get it because companies such as Rockstar lobby and pay big money so they games don't get the Adults Only certificate
>>343713487
>get those drops.
But you have to pay to open and/or see the content
>>343713546
gambling is 18-21+ in most countries you fucking shill.
>>343713546
so was the original and Source
holla holla get dolla
>>343713650
in my country is illegal in every way or form
>>343710636
at least you tired
>>343713650
which means regardless, children shouldn't be playing either.
Checkmate, mate.
>>343713727
Exactly. Gambling is one of the highest regulated industries in the world, and valve did little to nothing to prevent their service from being intertwined with it.
They are hella culpable.
>>343713650
IT'S NOT EVEN LEGALLY CONSIDERED GAMBLING
>blaming Valve for profiting off of retards
>not retards for falling for it
also this shit isn't really gambling.
Gambling is done for financial gain, you get nothing out of it except a let profit or loss and it's usually a loss.
Which is why it's so damaging to the addicted.
Crateshit is more like a carnival attraction, you can win a stuffed bear that's worthless but only by chance and the house still profits overall.
>>343713587
Not an issue.
TF2 introduced that ages ago and its not the issue here either.
If anything is the problem its skin betting on matches.
Buying keys to get creates open is like buying YGO booster packs. You get something out of it atleast even if its shit. Gambling often lets you keep nothing.
Protip: Casinos and online betting is the most clean and easy way to laundry money from drug dealing.
>>343713937
The word is Launder
>>343711557
>hehe let me post le cute anime gurl so people will take me seriously XXDDDD
>>343713795
Exactly. Which is why valve is getting sued. They did not actively prevent their service from being mixed into gambling circles.
If you sell a product and let gambling sites use your server infrastructure to log in within the sites, you are responsible for making sure your customers are protected from illegal activity, like underage gambling.
>>343713247
>shell at the bottom
fuck
>>343707102
the fuck is wrong with him
>>343713923
The problem is the way they give you the ""random""" packs
Everyone knows it's not by accident. They know you will buy the key and will buy another one, and another one and will sell it
You're all idiots, lawsuits have happened, nothing has changed. The case has no backbone. So argue legality all you want, everything is as it is.
Go be autistic about muh children on Reddit or something
>>343714052
in my country laundry = launder
same word , I forgot that in english you use different.
>>343714136
>the problem is that they give you the opportunity to make a stupid move
>and profit if you do it
>>343713247
>implying this isn't most of /v/
>>343713795
difference is it's not illegal for children to play games above their age rating.
<---- pictures theres a crying pc wojak here
IM SCARED BROS, WILL WE HAVE TO MOVE TO ORIGIN?
I DONT WANT TO MOVE
>>343713882
The gangling sites are, not the crate opening, which is what the fucking video is about.
>>343708291
>defending bullshit micro transactions in any way
>>343714136
>The problem is the way they give you the ""random""" packs
>Everyone knows it's not by accident.
There is an algorithim for it. But everyone gets the same.
>people getting addicted to buying shit.
The same risk as getting addicted to trading cards. Kids can still buy those in any country.
>>343714267
Good tip though, i'll take that into consideration
>>343713914
The issue here is that you can actually sell those items for real money (not just valve credit shit) through 3rd party sites, and valve might have allowed it in some way. Honestly i think there is nothing wrong about harvesting money from retards anyway.
>>343713518
he's a jew from israel
Actually I looked it up and CSGO has no license/ToS other than the general Steam/valve subscriber agreement so technically you only need to be 13 years old to play. (ESRB is completely voluntary and not backed by any law). So if anything Valve would stop being able to be bro's trying sell games to all ages essentially and be forced to lock shit down to 18+.
>>343713727
Japan?
>>343714084
>people violate law
>blame company
you dumb
>>343714361
Kids can get addicted to fucking Soda for fucks sakes. That's not even an argument, stop meaningless discourse about fucking nothing.
>>343714331
And valve isn't responsible for 3rd party sites
There's a website that lets you bet real money on fighting game matches, where's the capcom lawsuit
>>343713247
What do bioshock and deadspace have to do with humor?
>>343714439
You cannot allow or endorse illegal activity to go on in your storefront or business.
Please kill yourself you insufferable faggot.
CSGO is a shit game for slavshit teenagers who's PC's cant run better games
>>343714367
yeah but steam linking is pretty open to anyone.
I don't know how hard it is to get steam login for your third-party website but I've seen steam login on a plethora of sites and I doubt Valve has looked into them all if even the majority.
I'm also unsure of the law but I'm pretty sure permitting account authentication doesn't make you equally responsible for the content of a website.
>>343714492
salty bet is dat shit my nigga
>>343714561
NO ONE. ENDORSED. ANYONE. HOLY SHIT.
>>343712814
People actually buying porn?
Also, all this shit is somehow regulated when gambling in videogames out of control. Basically just a regular scum. It's already sucks a bunch, making excuse for it doesn't help at all. Why won't we just bomb everything back to the middle ages, if it's doesn't matter anymore.
>>343708635
>that video
God is dead.
>>343708501
1) loot crate is a horrible reward system and i hate it
2) even when you lose, you get paltry penance to purchase most of the remaining items
3) you can't trade the items, thus they cannot be turned into $
>>343714386
How is this any different to porn sites, they state the sites are for 18+ just like games can but they cant enforce it, they don't arrest kids for looking at porn.
>>343714492
That website doesn't allow you to link into Capcom's store and use real money to bet.
You're ignoring the main issue with this out of stupidity or trolling.
>>343714561
>You cannot allow or endorse illegal activity to go on in your storefront or business.
You can't do anything against it if the sites doing those illegal activities are located in China or some other third world shithole.
And not doing anything against it doesn mean they are endorsing it.
>>343707102
>people hating small businesses
>The guy who shills for crunchy roll and loot crate 24/7 claiming to have morality
Fuck him I bet he is angry cause he didnt got paid to shill skins
