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What's the verdict?
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dead on arrival
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>verdict
>on a game that isn't out yet
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>>343692154
It's good.
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>>343692574
Holy autism batman.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/BrgQ5X5DZaZCo_tDF9lPBA/
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the footage of the last atr looked really good

>dat double spear attack
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>>343692941
I liked the attack where Noctis does the lance attack then throws it to Ignis who does dragoon jump, then he throws it back to Noctis.
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>>343692883
I see those in every thread, who has the time to keep posting them?
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>>343693140
It's the same guy every time. Same filename, same image MD5. It's like he has XV threads on an RSS feed or something.
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>Hold O to fight
>Press triangle to Kingdom Heart
Demo was shit.
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>>343693227
Sure thing. Obvious you never touched it.
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>>343693372
He forgot to mention hold square to dodge. But hey, you are an autistic loser who has to take things literally to defend this trash.
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>>343692641
>he needs to play obvious shit game to know they are shit
Even being underage is no excuse for this
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>>343695085
Guess you are retarded since holding square to dodge is an ability you equip and it uses MP, and you can't even dodge all attacks either, dodge roll is manual taps you fuck.
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>>343695085
>Press X to attack and then press X to heal

Every FF ever.
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>>343696090
>an autistic loser who has to take things literally to defend this trash.
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>>343696148
At least those had cute girls to distract you, this is boring sausagefest shit.
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I played the demo and thought it was a very pretty but the combat was like a terrible version of Kingdom Hearts

no thanks
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>>343696313
>an autistic loser who has to make up lies and gets proven wrong with facts while still pretending he is right
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>>343692574
>Cars ruin it!
Yeah 7 and 8 were shit
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>>343696467
Why are nostalgiafaggots like you so desperate to shitpost? FF1 and FF3 on NES had no female party members, let alone actual fleshed out characters.
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Still cautiously optimistic.
Truthfully, I'm more concerned about The Last Guardian than this.
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I'm still excited.
The only things truly bothering me is that shit magic system which I'm hoping they used their last little while to fix before sending it to print.
Also that fucking stand by me theme song. Fuck you, Somnus suited the mood of the game so much better and you ruined it Tabata.
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Played it at E3. It was a shitty version of Kingdom Hearts except it required no skill. All QTEs like Ryse, but Ryse was more challenging.
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>>343697001
TLG will be total shit. It is known.
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>>343698069
Somnus is still in the game.
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>>343698069
Somnus is still the main theme, Stand by me is the theme song. Main theme and theme song are different things. It's just like To Zanarkand and Suteki da ne in FF10.

Magic is fine too, we see there is a synthesis system and you can instant cast it by tapping L1+O, or R1+O since R1 is lock-on in the main game.

>>343698329
But that's wrong. There is just button prompts but those aren't QTEs, you can turn off those prompts entirely, the only thing they are showing is that the attack or defend button action was changed to something else in a specific instance. KH and even Zelda does the same thing.
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>>343698516
Yes, but it's not the main theme anymore. It's a song that people laughed at during that event they hosted a few months back.
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>>343698936
Yes it is. Somnus is the main theme while Stand by me is the theme song.

>It's a song that people laughed at during that event they hosted a few months back.
No people laughed because they weren't expecting it, but the song still 100% fits the theme of the game, which is bonds, brotherhood, friendship and all that. The lyrics of Stand by me even directly tie in to the story of the game, not to mention that it was used in a film of the same name which is about 4 boys going on an adventure, which even the Japanese box art references the cover of that movie.

Why are you having a hard time understanding that main theme and theme song are different things? Main theme is Somnus, it's used in every single demo, is used in almost every single ATR, it was used at the start of the Uncovered event when Sakaguchi came on stage, it was even used in the ATR from just a few days ago, it has leitmotifs all throughout the game too like in the Dawn trailer track. Stand by me is a track that is only going to play once in the game.
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>>343698936
>laughed at
What?
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>>343699274
At Uncovered event when the trailer transitioned from the first half to the second half, the second half had stand by me playing and people laughed, but that guy is trying to act like people were laughing in derision, and not laughing at the moment it was something unexpected and was humorous.
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>>343699392
Oh okay, that's what I thought.
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>>343698936
>>343699251

Also to add, you are also ignoring that people were laughing also because that shot had them sitting on the side of the road with the car broken down which was funny, and then the audience laughed again when it showed them pushing the car a bit later on

https://youtu.be/4AptAyPIL88?t=1h6m40s


Secondly Stand by Me also fits the "Fantasy based on reality" motif of XV by using a real song that exists but also mixing it with the Final Fantasy prelude.
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>series focused on linear stories and punishes people for exploring
>next game is open world
>game takes 10 years to be released
Its gonna be the next Duke Nukem Forever.
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>>343701839
This 10 years thing is a meme. XV only started full actual development with a 200 member dev team, engine and budget in 2012. Prior to that it was just a concept that barely anyone was a part of and it wasn't being actively worked on. The world map is also more like FF1-9 style just in 1:1 scale, so more like how RDR open world is, not like Skyrim.
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>>343702693

>it only started development in 2008!
>no wait, 2010!
>no wait, 2012!

Funny how you keep pushing the supposed production date back. Just like the release date keeps getting pushed back.
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>>343702930
I'm not him but what are you talking about? He is right, they re-branded the game to FFXV and started development on that in 2012.

>Tabata: I started being involved in the project around July 2012, when we were starting to shift from Versus to the actual XV project.

Release date is set, they never had a set release date.
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>>343702930
I'm not pushing anything back and what I just said is a fact. XV started full development in 2012, in 2012 is when and only when it got 200 member dev team, budget and a new engine. It was not in active dev prior to that.

2006-2009 it was literally just a CGI teaser made by three CGI animators who have nothing to do with game dev, with Nomura who just did a storyboard that they based the trailer on and Shimomura made a two songs. It was not even a game, it was literally just a CGI concept teaser. Not even the story was written yet.

In 2010 after FF13 finished, some of the Crystal Tools staff were freed and in their spare time created a modified engine called Ebony which around 20 people in their spare time for a few months created an early prototype of Versus on, that was put on hold in late 2010 because FF14 tanked and all of SE was reshuffled to fix that mess.

It was on hold all the way until July 2012 when it then and only then started full development as XV, got 200 member + dev team, budget, new engine and was actually rebooted as XV.

And the release date was never once pushed back because they only ever first gave a date for it this year, which is still September 30th.

At least do your research before spouting shit.
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>>343702693

Pre production clearly started before the game was announced in 2006. You FFXV defenders love to claim that pre production (aka the concept development phase) doesn't count, but it does. And even if you only count when actual coding began on the game, that began in 2008 according to Tabata.

If anyone is trying to create a 'meme' to cover up the truth, its you.
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>>343703548

>I started being involved in the project around July 2012
The game didn't start production when he took over, dumbass. It was in the works for years before that. Just because they restarted production doesn't magically erase all the years beforehand.
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>>343703781
>Pre production clearly started before the game was announced in 2006.
No it didn't. Versus in 2006 existed in its entirely only as a 1 minute CGI teaser animated by three people, which started and was shown first only in 2006. Nothing was done before that. It was not even a game.

>And even if you only count when actual coding began on the game, that began in 2008 according to Tabata.
Why are you full of shit? Tabata never once said that. We know for a fact that Tabata stated that XV only started full dev in July 2012. And we know for a fact that Versus from 2006-2009 was nothing more than a CGI teaser which had nothing to do with game development and was only animated by three people, since one of the three animators himself confirmed it on his blog.
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>>343704021
Why are you fucking lying you dickhead? XV started full development in 2012 when it was rebooted as XV, that is when it started actual full development as an 8th gen game, as XV, with a 200 member+ dev team and when it was given full resources by SE.
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>>343704093

>It was not even a game.
Except they clearly announced it as a game when they showed off that trailer. It was SquareEnix stupidity for announcing a game which was little more than a concept. But the concept was clearly started. And SquareEnix had enough confidence in it to start hyping it.

Either the game was in production in 2006 and got rebooted later on (twice) or you're claiming SquareEnix is so stupid that they announced a game that wasn't even in production yet. Which do you want it to be? Both options makes SquareEnix look stupid.
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>>343704252

>XV started full development
>full development
>full

So it had development before that. But just got rebooted. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>343692154
downgraded shit.
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>>343704521
>This faggot again still making shit up.

I bet you think this is an actual game and has been in development too just because they showed a 2 minute CGI teaser for it

https://youtu.be/u1E9SonwgZY

Fact is this isn't a game, it doesn't even exist as anything other than this CGI teaser done by a few visual works animators (not game devs) and a few pictures of artwork done by one person.

>Except they clearly announced it as a game when they showed off that trailer.
>announced

MEANS FUCKING NOTHING, IT WAS NOT A GAME. It was the announcement of a project, one which never even got properly started, given any priority or proper budget. Versus was nothing more but a concept.

>SquareEnix is so stupid that they announced a game that wasn't even in production yet.
NIGGER GAME COMPANIES DO THIS ALL THE FUCKING TIMES.

HOW UNDERAGE ARE YOU?
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>>343696513
It has tons of bugs too.
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>>343704651
It was a project that was announced, it never became anything more than a concept. Your point was already invalidated.

You are trying to act like XV in its current stage has been worked on 24/7 for 10 years straight by 300+ devs. That is not even remotely fucking true.
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>>343704742
>>343705039

Fuck off Pesmerga.
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>>343705039
>>343704742
>It's a pesmerga samefags again episode.
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>>343705039
>gun guy shooting at the air
>big guy freezes then teleports
>skinny guy's attacks have no particle effects

Disgusting.
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>>343704742
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/Mg3Fj488QKfZHrn3ixIhyg/

>>343705039

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/5KuCaax_0GwU_5WIVr8S_Q/

Give it a rest already you samefagging fuck.
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>>343704897

>A GAME ANNOUNCEMENT DOESN'T COUNT IF PRODUCTION CHANGES LATER ON!
Starcraft Ghost was full on cancelled. Still doesn't stop people from remembering it. And Blizzard admitted that it was a mostly complete game that had been in production for over 2 years.

FFVersus eventually turned into FFXV. But that doesn't mean it had zero development in all that time. The fact that it had enough planning to actually make a teaser and hype it proves this. I don't know how to get through your blind ignorance and get you to understand this however.
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>>343705220
And you are samefagging again.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/343623923/#343626872
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>>343705169
>it's a nigger isautistic samefagging episode

Reminder that the only person who defends this trash pile of a game is an insane nigger who suffers from paranoia.
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>>343696709

because the new Final Fantasy games are shit and the sooner you fucking idiotic youngsters understand that the better
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>>343705046

>It was a project that was announced, it never became anything more than a concept.
It did though. It turned into FFXV. And once again, pre planning and working on a 'concept' is still part of producing a game. Game development doesn't begin when programmers start coding. How stupid are you? You're literally proving the point I made.

>You are trying to act like XV in its current stage has been worked on 24/7 for 10 years straight by 300+ devs.
No, I was trying to point out that it has taken 10 years to go from a teaser trailer to releasing the game. Nowhere did I say that it had the same level of development the whole way. But it clearly had some level of development since 2006 or earlier.
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>>343705323
>And Blizzard admitted that it was a mostly complete game

So that was a game that was mostly complete, which is not the same thing as what Versus was which from 2006-2009 was not even a game, and in 2010 only had a few months of prototype done by people in their spare time until the end of 2010 where it was put on hold all the way until July 2012.

At most Versus existed as a "game" only in 2010 and only for a few months, it was rebooted entirely into FFXV in July 2012 when it got a 200 member dev team, actual budget, 8th gen engine and was given top priority by SE management.

God job just ignoring the entire thing about Type-Next which is literally a CGI teaser that existed as only that which is exactly what Versus was in 2006. It's not a fucking game yet. Again your entire fucking argument is trying to say that the current XV has been worked on 24/7 for 10 years straight which is not even remotely fucking true.
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>>343705536
Pesmerga samefagging again?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/39SLIxUOg5Sj6UbyDTtvHg/

More likely than you think. Funny how you got suspended from Gamefags so you are going all out here now.
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>>343696619
Uh, yeah, they were. FF9 was the only good 3D final fantasy.
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>10 years compared to 4 years
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>>343705169
>>343705150

>Pesmerga
When did this become a Suikoden thread? Not that I'm complaining since Suikoden discussion is better than 'angry FF debate #15039254'.
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>it's an anonymous namefags arguing episode
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>shit performance

>>343705873
Ignore the paranoid shill.
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>>343705690
The concept was repurposed into FFXV, that doesn't mean anything because XV itself only started full development in 2012.

>Game development doesn't begin when programmers start coding.
Are you fucking stupid or something? You do realize that the concept artists, story and all that was set for XV in 2012 right?

Whatever Versus was, it was barely even 20% of a game by 2012, and even that itself was only from 2010 to 2012. Anything from 2006-2009 was not in the game, it was not ever going to be used anyway because it was literally concept CGI for something that didn't even exist and was not even written at the time.


>No, I was trying to point out that it has taken 10 years to go from a teaser trailer to releasing the game.
No you are trying to act like it's been in full development for 10 years just because Versus was announced 10 years ago. I bet you think Mother 3 was in constnat development for 12 years, I bet you think Nioh was in constant development for 12 years, I bet you think Pokemon red/blue was in constant development for 7 years. Fucking retard you have no clue how game development even works.

It was nothing more than a CGI teaser in 2006, for fucks sakes Noctis didn't even have a name back then and the story wasn't even written, it was nothing more than that CGI teaser which were done by three visual works animators who have nothing to do with game development.
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>can make any FFXV thread blow up by simply saying the phrase 10 years
Yeah. FFXV totally isn't being shilled.
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>>343704742
This happens to every game ever shown off at E3 and given a distant release date.
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>downgraded character models

>>343706226
It started development 10 years ago.
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Anyone still paying attention to this piece of shit series after XIII deserves to get fed shit.
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>>343705868
Honestly sad how hard you have to keep trying Pes.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/v6vEVVpyhrioQWcH9mL2GA/
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>>343706301
No it didn't. He proved you wrong. Fuck off you pathetic cunt, you lost.
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>>343705873
Pesmerga is a buttmad shitposter from Gamefags who constatly shitposts on the XV board and also shitposts nonstop here on /v/ with the same autism images over and over. He was recently suspended from gamefags and is now going all out autism here.

See even here https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/dQfqWkiG4yG1dSmXkCn6bg/
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>>343706226

>Are you fucking stupid or something? You do realize that the concept artists, story and all that was set for XV in 2012 right?
Using tons of pre production ideas established by Nomura and others years before. Hell, by your logic, I can say production didn't even start in 2012. Since they're still changing stuff right now.
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>shadows don't even align with objects

>>343706540
Who did what?

It's a known fact the game is 10 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj7wnfGXmYg
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>>343706301
Why are you still lying Pes? We go through this every thread.
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>>343706646
>Who did what
Can you read? FFXV isn't 10 years old. It started development in 2012.
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>>343706597

>you will never play Bill and Ted's Excellent Futuristic Adventure
>instead you get Sasuke fighting to protect his kingdom
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>>343706597
>Using tons of pre production ideas established by Nomura and others years before.

Which again what the fuck does that have to do with anything when it's not been 10 years of full active development?

>Since they're still changing stuff right now.
Are, are you really this fucking stupid? So by your logic a game isn't in production until it's done and shipped? Because every fucking game is constantly changing until it's released.
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FFXV will be worse than FFXIII. FF hasn't been good at any point in this decade.
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>>343706646
You know what is a known fact? That you are still samefagging. https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/DlwD2KcSPrWdeK3jk7YZeg/
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>>343706861
Thank you for the fucking 1000th time, you pathetic fuck. It already is better. Goodbye!
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>>343706861
It's already better than 13. Fuck off.
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>>343706549
>be one of several guys who just likes making you sperg out
>you get so paranoid you think we lurk on gamefaqs
lol this fucking nigger.

>That's it. Fuck off NeithOF you cunt I fucking hate you so fucking much.
top tier autism lol.

>>343706673
Not lying, it says it was downgraded right there.

>>343706761
FFXV is 10 years old. Just proved it.
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>>343706820

>FFXV has only been in development since 2012!
>except it clearly had lots of pre production before 2012

>no, I mean when the ideas were set!
>concepts were developed years before 2012, including multiple teaser trailers and images

>no, I mean full active development!
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>>343706797
>Bill and Ted's Excellent Futuristic Adventure
It was never this.

>fighting to protect his kingdom
It was always this.
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>>343706921
What a fucking loser faggot.

>>343707045
>just proved it
lol how? you don't make sense buddy. i'm guessing you're retarded and can't keep up with actual facts that were fed to you. keep shitposting.
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>>343696148
I know this post is an hour old, but I keep seeing people say "just like every other FF!"
But this game isn't turn based, so it doesn't quite work that way. If you're still here, elaborate for me how they're the same.
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>>343707142
I posted a 10 year old demo of this game.
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>>343707045
It's hilarious how hard you are denying it when we know it's you Pesmerga. You've been doing this for fucking years now.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/_hD2XrADM85uIF1p1CyE8w/
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>>343707043
>>343706998
>it already is better
>isn't out
>already confirmed for shit tier FF
>main protags are girly fuccbois
Marketers pls. Pathetic.
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>all these XV apologists

game is clearly being shilled to the max
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>>343706820

>Are, are you really this fucking stupid? So by your logic a game isn't in production until it's done and shipped?
Your logic is that a game only begins when the programmers start working on it, but not when they do scene planning, writing or other pre production development. What if they just dumped all the work they have done and started over again in 2016? By your logic, 2012-2016 wouldn't count. Problem is, you've already set that as your line in the sand and cant pretend it doesn't exist.

Now take that very simple line of thinking and realize that the stuff for XIII Versus also counts as production.
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FFXV shill marketers are the worst. Game is shit.
No one wants it.
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>>343707153

because you're just pushing the same button over and over and over. X to confirm and cancel to cancel.

It's the same exact shit except more fun when its not turneded based.. Wake up, sheep.
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>>343707212
oh, you mean the trailer of versus that some person renamed to FFXV, which was most likely you. yeah, you sure showed me..
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>>343707381

I do. But will be getting the inevitable Steam release.
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>>343707098
FFXV has only been in full development since 2012, anything prior to that was a barebones concept, it wasn't even a game until 2010 at the earliest.


>>no, I mean full active development!
Why are you trying so hard to misappropriate the argument when it's been about full development since the begging?

Versus was not a game in 2006, or 2007, or 2008, or 2009, it didn't exist as anything more than those CGI trailers which just reused the same footage over and over. In 2010 after FF13 finished it had a prototype made on a modified crystal tools engine by a few people in their spare time, in late 2010 it was put on HOLD. It was on HOLD all the way until July 2012. In July 2012 the project was rebooted into XV project, it was given 200 member dev team, an actual mainline FF budget, a new 8th gen engine and top priority by SE.

This is not even remotely fucking close to what you are trying to argue. It was not in active development at all until it became XV in 2012.
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>>343707381
k bye
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>>343707254
And how does that make you feel? Oh we already know, like a spaz.

>And you're fucking retarded and I hate you. You meme spouting shitposting motherfucker. Kill yourself for fuck's sake.

>>343707430
It's the same game only downgraded.

>>343707530
It's been in development since 2006 you lying nigger.
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>>343707271
>already confirmed for shit tier FF
How when it isn't out?

>main protags are girly fuccbois
Maybe you should go and look at literally every other FF.
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>>343707530

> anything prior to that was a barebones concept,
But it still was a concept being worked on.

>it wasn't even a game until 2010 at the earliest.
Now you're moving your own goalpost. And proving the point of >>343702930
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>In development for years
>Still sucks
>Downgraded
>Cut content
>Awful combat
>Lame characters
>Shit plot
>Director fired because game is so bad
It can't get any worse. Anyone who buys this deserves the disappointment.
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>>343707284
>>343707381

Why are you still samefagging?
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>Versus wasn't a game
By your logic, FFXV isn'ta game either. Until it comes out.
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>>343707394
I'm not totally sure what kind of answer I was expecting, but it wasn't this.
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>>343707585
>It's the same game only downgraded.
if it was the same game it would still be versus, but its not, its XV. toooo bad.
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Holy fuck FF15-kun you are sad pathetic waste of life. Stop leeching off your parents and get a job.
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>>343707782
Changing the name doesn't change the game.
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>>343707728

swing and a miss, bby
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>>343707668
>>343707381
Stop fucking samefagging you piece of shit. Don't you have a life? lmao
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>>343707781

you know I'm right nigga
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>>343707874
too bad it does, doesnt play the same as versus.
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This just in! Final Fantasy XV is now being called Final Fantasy Travels! Its only been in production since 2016 and will release after only 6 months of development!
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>>343707356
>Your logic is that a game only begins when the programmers start working on it

No? When the fuck did I ever say that? I said XV started full development in 2012 because THAT IS WHEN IT LITERALLY STARTED AS XV. THAT IS WHEN IT WAS GIVEN IT'S MAINLINE FF BUDGET. THAT IS WHEN IT WAS GIVEN A 200 MEMBER DEV TEAM. THAT IS WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TOP PRIORITY. THAT IS WHEN THE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS ACTUALLY FULLY ACTIVE.

>What if they just dumped all the work they have done and started over again in 2016?
Except we know for a fact that full development started in 2012 and that it is an actual game because we've played multiple demos for it and it's already confirmed to be fully playable from start to finish. Your logic makes no fucking sense at all.

Versus was nothign more than early concept, it was not a game in 2006-2009. It only at earliest was a game in 2010 and even then only had a few people in their spare time doing anything on it for a few months before it was put on hold in late 2010 and was on hold until July 2012. What the fuck is so hard to get about this simple fact?
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>>343705868
Witcher fans are so pathetic
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>>343707585
Hey look Pesmerga still going.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/cPRoHNx1MAnQwokdXgWQvg/
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>>343708057
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This series has been shit since 2001, and anyone looking forward to FF15 was only 3 years old then.
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>>343707664
>But it still was a concept being worked on.
But it wasn't in active development, it was literally a concept you fuck.

>Now you're moving your own goalpost
But I'm not since I said right here >>343703602
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>>343707756
But we already know XV is a game because we've already played multiple demos for it and it was already confirmed by the devs to be playable from start to finish.

Versus was never a game in 2006, it did not even exist as a game in any capacity in 2006.
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>>343708226
>>343708312
>a minute apart
so this...is the ...power...of an adult...shitposting..
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>>343707874
Pes still going huh.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/0ZsKWi8-8OScV9MWVKg28Q/
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>>343708391
>Versus was never a game in 2006, it did not even exist as a game in any capacity in 2006.
Yes it did, there was a trailer and gameplay footage.
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>>343708034
Ok but too bad for you we already know for a fact that XV started full development as a game in 2012 and it was already confirmed to be playable from start to finish months ago, and we've already played three demos of it. Even if it did get renamed we already know that full development for it started in 2012. Your argument is extremely flawed because you have no idea how games are actually made.
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>>343708279

>you can't be actively developing a concept
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>>343708312
>Pesmerga STILL going

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/HaiLxppuP-ZK6oCSjtH_fg/
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When FFXV gets a 70 metascore I'll be laughing at all the shills doing damage control.
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>>343708391

>a game isn't counted until people see gameplay and demos
Tell that to Last Guardian fags. Who have been hyped 8 years for a game that had literally two pre rendered trailers and no gameplay.
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>>343708580
>that pic
>not getting that devs may need to optimize the game during development
I'm pretty sure the countless 'downgrades' you guys bitch about aren't just the devs saying 'lets make p[eople mad lol'
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>>343708710
nobody cares your life is pathetic and im laughing at it now
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>>343708580
>>343708312
DELETE THIS
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>>343708582

>Ok but too bad for you we already know for a fact that XV started full development as a game in 2012
People have disagreed with you every time you said this. Its not a 'fact' when only you believe it. But anyway, I'm done arguing with this blind idiot.
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>>343708781

you cared enough to reply to him, dipshit.
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>>343708580
Why are you lying so hard Pesmerga? I mean just why?

>>343708748
The thing is the blue pic is newer and from current XV, the yellow one is from the old 2013 trailer.

2013
https://youtu.be/IcUSXub_ypU?t=2m21s

2015
https://youtu.be/-g1CwNw2i88?t=1m18s
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>>343708901
just as he (you) cared to post in a thread having nothing to do with him, ergo his life is pathetic and so are you being a defender. loooooser
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>>343708882
>people
You mean you and whatever samefag replies you keep doing because you can't deal with the fact that XV only started full development in 2012.
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>>343708942
>look ma I swapped the images
nice photoshop skill you sperglord.
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I'm scared this game gonna suffer from the same repetitive monsters issue that ff 12 and 13 had. The good thing about turn based combat is that they don't have to make all these billion models with their own animations. FF12 and 13 had like 10 monsters archetypes and their infinite permutations

>wolf, ice wolf, desert wolf, plant wolf, hell wolf
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>>343708873
Still going huh Pes?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/WCSi8UTjy4h5m6wjyoCECA/

Must suck that you got banned from Gamefags and you can't spout your autism there.
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Defend this. Please someone defend this.

>B-but, it makes sense within the confines of the story!

If the story bottlenecks the entire main playable cast into looking like a bunch of faggy boyband rejects from the early 2000's then I'm afraid the story itself needs to be changed. That doesn't excuse it, and it probably wasn't any good to begin with.
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>>343709034
>>343708873
DELETE THIS

I will be fired if you keep posting these images. Please just like FFXV? Please?
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>>343709137
>bunch of faggy boyband
yawn. stopped reading.
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>>343709034
Why are you lying so much? You get proven wrong every fucking thread.

Every thread.

Just why?
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>>343708987

>he thinks I'm him

hilarious
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>>343709295
so prove it
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>>343708873

The early concepts of them being in the city looked more interesting than bland open countryside.
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>>343709137
Holy fucking autism batman.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/the%20most%20boring%20party%20ever.jpg/
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>>343709076
The problem is that this game was announced in 2006. That's a full fucking decade of hype. It doesn't matter how good this game is. Even if the game delivered on every promise it made. Even if it were just "good." It doesn't matter because the game everyone has in their imaginations cannot compare to the product they can put out. If the game is good then it'll get shit for not being great. If the game is great then it'll get shit for not being perfect. If the game is bad then it'll be a Duke Nukem Returns levels of disaster.

The point being that it should never had been announced as early as it was
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>>343709253
>>343708942

>marketers are this desperate
>lying
>getting paid to lie
How much did you sell your soul for? $6/hr?
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>>343709031

>every person who replies to me is a samefag!
Yup. You're FFXV Kun alright.
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>>343709169
Still going huh Pes?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/cFPKNmPmLDFAhNcb9-cT0g/

>>343709191
So desperate you are phone posting now?
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>>343709323

Burden of proof is on you, friend. You're the one claiming I'm him.

If he could reply that'd be nice but we both know it'd more enjoyable for him to watch another anon get accused while he goes and jerks it on /gif/
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>>343709253
That image is full of lies what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>343709347
Wow it's almost as if the characters go to different locations which includes cities, caves, dungeons, countrysides, forests etc.
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>>343709486
>literally proves me right
kek. prt scrn too far for you to reach fatty ?
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>>343709372

>The problem is that this game was announced in 2006.
B-But it only counts from 2012 and on!

No, I agree with everything you just said. Even if this game was a masterpiece, it missed its hype window by about 8 years. And people are more interested in the rumors of a new Dark Souls or Red Dead 3 than this game actually releasing. The most obvious evidence of this is SquareEnix rushing to make a FFVII remake. To help rejuvenate hype for the FF brand before FFXV comes out.
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>>343709137
>Final Fantasy has several different types of intelligent monstrous species
>every party member is always a human or some kind of humanoid with a little bit of fur and slight animal features
I want to be a badass monster thing with teeth and claws. Not even talking about furry shit. It just bugs me so much when a series establishes different races and species but then just makes all the playable ones human.
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>>343709657
It missed your hype window. Goodbye samefag.
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>>343709076
We've already seen over 20 monsters so far.

>Monsters we've seen in footage.
Adamantoise
Arachne
Behemoth - King Behemoth
Bat
Catoblepas
Chadarnook
Coeurl
Dualhorn - Bloodhorn
Garula - Garulessa
Goblin
Imp
Iron Giant
Malboro
Mesmerize
Midgardsormr
Naga
Sabertusks - Saberclaws
Scorpion (Reapertail)
Wyvern
Yojimbo/Numb Blade (Vagabond)
Zu

>Monsters who have been named as being in XV but we haven't seen yet.
Aepyornis
Cactuar
Gighee
Tonberry

>Monsters we can see in XV artwork.
Bomb
Cockatrice
Hell's Rider

>Unknown monsters we've seen in XV footage.
"Crocodile-Fish"
"Deer-Giraffe" (Possibly named Anak)
"Giant Owl"
"Raptor"
"Three headed flying Lobster"
"Ghoul" like montsers

>Niflheim enemies.
Imperial Rifleman
Imperial Swordsman
Magitek Axeman - Imperial Bannerman
Magitek Armor
Magitek Armor X

Marilith who we saw in Brotherhood, most likely is in the game.

>Bosses we know of so far
Aranea
Titan
Leviathan
Ramuh

And in Kingsglaive we can see what looks to be Diamond Weapon and a Cerberus which may be in the game
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>>343709614

In my experience when getting accused of being a samefag, mspaint jobs like that are just then accused of being photoshop jobs.

So what's the point?
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>can't jump back up ledges

>>343709857
No we haven't, stop lying you retard.
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>Downgrade
>Lame characters
>QTE combat

kek

DOA game. RIP FF.
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>>343696709

Anon, those games came out a million years ago. If you have to go back to fucking FF3 to argue that some aspect of FF isn't universal to all FF games, you're stretching.
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>>343709728

What do you think this is? Dragon Quest? People can only empathize with a loner male trying to hide from the world. Every writer knows this!
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>>343709489
Seriously why are you trying so hard even after you get proven wrong every single time?

Still samefagging too https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/eVE0zUEu90NwErJk4sqGKA/
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>>343709926
forgot
>bugs everywhere
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>>343709926

seriously this

apologists have stockholm syndrome
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WoFF is probably gonna be truer to FF than this will ever be, it's quite sad considering it's just some low budget (compared to FFXV) passion project.
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>>343709915
But you can jump up ledges. Again why are you still fucking lying Pes?

>No we haven't
Why can't you just give me an answer? Why are you lying so blatantly that anyone with any basic common sense can disprove you?
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>>343709860
sounds like you're just a pessimistic and incompetent person. i know it was you.

>>343709926
nice meme
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>>343709213
>>343709348

Shitposting or not, gotta agree with that anon. This is one of the shittiest designs for the main cast with like 0 effort put aside from maybe trying to appeal to a certain demographic.

Usually we need to deal with the one or two obligatory self insert/fanservice pandering, but now, we have fucking nothing but that. Imagine playing final fantasy 12 with only Vaans in your party, that's how it fucking seems that 15 will be. No female cast, no monsters, not even a obligatory joke character or pet, what the hell man?

My only hope is that the faggies at least change clothes at certain point.
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>>343710078
>>343709926
Honestly sad how much you are samefagging

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/IZbeObfp-R0DoyFjOq83XQ/

>>343710086

And phone posting
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this is from the e3 trailer, just for comparison
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>>343710213
But you can't, that's not the same ledge.

It's impossible to disprove me.
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As a long time Final Fantasy fan who has played all main entries (excluding MMOs) and tons of spin-offs and bought all of them at full price some even a couple of times, I have absolutely no interest in this abomination whatsoever. I want this to fail so hard so that Square never again tries to make garbage 10 year in development open-world shit with cars and boring, homogenous, yaoi-bait cast. All the tie-ins, movies, and other garbage just add even more fuel to the fire.
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>>343710304
>This is one of the shittiest designs
stopped reading right there.
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>>343710118
No it won't, Woff looks like a by the numbers cash in that just tries to cram other FF characters into it because it has nothing of its own merit.
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>>343710275

>sounds like you're just a pessimistic and incompetent person. I know it was you

You're still wrong faglord.
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>>343710418
Maybe so, but at least it's a fucking RPG.
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The apologists for this game are even more pathetic than Lightning apologists.
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>>343710354
i am actually laughing hard at this shitpost. this guy is really fucking going hard.

>>343710450
prove me wrong
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>>343710304
You can't change clothes to anything not homoerotic and it's DLC.

>>343710391
It's an objectively true statement. The characters are faggots.
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>>343710354

I just want SquareEnix to start localizing their other games to the west. If it takes FFXV losing money to do that, I'm fine with it.

Even though I like open world games, Final Fantasy as a series has never done it correctly. I have more faith that Dragon Quest XI will do open world correctly than FFXV. And we haven't seen jack for DQXI yet.
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>>343709915
>No we haven't
Uh yes we have.
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>>343710558
People gave money for the shitty FFX remaster hoping FFXII would come to PS3 and Vita.

You're giving money to FFXV hoping for an entire other series gets ported.

Are you retarded?
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This is a public service announcement.

Have you been seeing these phrases when talking about FFXV:

-This has been proven wrong multiple times.
-Stop shitposting.
-Stop samefagging.

Then chances are, you've been visited by FFXV Kun! And its time to abandon the thread.
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>>343710304
No it isn't, it's easily one of the better designed FF casts with more consistency and thought put into the design because it's specifically done to contrast the environments and the other kingdom characters in the game. Every other FF has a clusterfuck of autism design in the cast.

> but now, we have fucking nothing but that.
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

>Imagine playing final fantasy 12 with only Vaans in your party,
Yeah and FF12 main cast is worse in every way over XVs, the fuck? XV is nowhere near as bad as 12s cast.

> No female cast
But there is female cast, in fact multiple females in the cast as important as females are in other FFs, and we already know there will be temporary female party member too.

> no monsters
So just like FF1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 etc. Get your head out of your ass.

>>343710505
No it isn't Pes. The characters all have their own female interests. And you can change their outfits to the Kingsglaive military outfits.
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>>343709857
That's still a low number, if not the same from 12 and 13. I'm not counting bosses since those they at least try to change, but it gets tiring really fast if everything you will ever see are different coeurls and bombs colors everytime you enter a new place
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>j-hipster, boy band/Belieber characters
>muh modern fantasy faggotry, instead of based medieval fantasy
>car faggotry
>nomura's fagtastic designs
>action gameplay faggotry, instead of proper ATB turn-based
>stupid over the top flashy teleporting (nothin personnel)
>generic kingdom hearts derivative music instead of glorious nobuo
>matsuno and grounded, western inspired fantasy gone forever
>sakaguchi father of FF is gone forever

FF is dead
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>>343710687

>You're giving money to FFXV hoping for an entire other series gets ported.
Except I'm not buying FFXV. And I never even hinted that in my post.

>Are you retarded?
Are you? At the very least, you can't read.
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>>343710325
Why are you still samefagging Pes?https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/tQn_ihQSnz9srzGZoaK_Uw/

You can literally just walk 5 meters to the right and jump back up that same ledge.
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>>343710304
It made sense in other FF games because in other FF games you picked up a bunch of dudes from a bunch of different locations in the game world with different styles of clothing and occupations. No one chides Rydia for not looking like Cecil because she is neither a soldier nor a resident of Baron. Squall, Quistis, Zell, and Irvine all look different but that's only because because they're in plain clothes. In uniform everyone is dressed the same because they're in the same organization. In XV it's different because unlike most other games the crew are all in the same court and so they have similar wear to the one they serve. But while they all wear the same colors their style of uniform is different. Like how Ignis is the more refined of the group so he's in more professional looking clothing while Gladio is in more loose fitting clothing since he's the brawler. There's nothing wrong with that. The only thing that's the same about their outfits are the colors.
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>>343710473
>apologists
You know what's so much fucking worse? Lingo users such as yourself. Who literally just shitpost and shitpost and shitpost and have nothing to contribute. Other shitposters come in to ride the popularity and spread misinformation about the game, and do nothing but repeat the same garbage over and over. You're so fucking pathetic I would love to get my hands on your face and bash your ugly skull.

>>343710505
You're a fucking closet faggot.

>objectively
You don't know how to use that word.
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>>343710354
Even with your copy pasta now?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/As%20a%20long%20time%20Final%20Fantasy%20fan%20who%20has%20played%20all%20main/
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>>343710797
I just proved they're faggots and those outfits prove it too.

It's alright to be a fucking queer but don't force that disgust onto others, faggot.

>>343710890
You can't jump up ledges as I proved.
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>>343710467
And so is XV, the fuck is your point? Action RPGs are still RPGs. RPG doesn't mean turn based.
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>its another triggered pcucks episode
I like this season
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Shit tier Kingdom Hearts knockoff
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>>343710797
>none of the characters on the left are faggots
>all of the characters on the right are faggots
What are you trying to argue because you just proved him right.
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>>343711023
Lol you sound fucking stupid as shit.

>HUR I PROVED THEY ARE GAY HURDUR
Lmao what the fuck is wrong with you? How fucking old are you exactly you piece of fucking shit?
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>>343710473
Not as bad as you.
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>>343710902
>contribute
>to a shitty game
What is there to contribute? Apologizing like you do isn't contributing. You're just enabling shitty game makers to shit on gamers with low quality garbage.
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>>343710797
You talking shit about ff12 cast? I'm not saying they don't have flaws, balthier and barsh were perfect, not mentioning having the best Cid of all final fantasy
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>>343711114
>Action RPGs are still RPGs.
lmao i bet you think zelda is a RPG
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>>343710753
Oh look it's the shitposter apologist who is literally too fucking stupid to see that Pesmerga is in this thread shitposting again yet you do fucking nothing.

>>343710864
And more copy pasta.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/j-hipster%2C%20boy%20band/

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/GWKX23sz6uX86WPv2I9osg/
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>>343710823
How is a low number when that is things we've seen prerelease. The game isn't even out until September and we've yet to see the full bestiary.
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do you think xv-kun cries during these threads? he seems so pathetic.
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>>343711023
You didn't prove anything.

You sound extremely insecure and like you love projecting your homosexual desires. I meant you are from New York aren't you Pesmerga? You know all about faggots since you are one.

>You can't jump up ledges as I proved.
And you didn't prove that, since you can jump them as shown right here >>343710213
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>>343711373

>guy is mocking FFXV Kun
>you're an apologist for a troll!
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>>343711160
All the left side are faggots, none of the right side are faggot.

What are you even trying to argue because you just proved me right.
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>>343703602
>It was on hold all the way until July 2012

No, it wasn't.
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>>343711280
Have you seen Basch's outfit? His face design is face but his outfit is complete shit.
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>>343711495
That's why i said i was wary about it anon, i know it is yet to be released but as proved in other games, they haven't arsed to create a lot of monsters types. I hope it will be different now.
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>>343711270
What the fuck are you doing by acting this way? Do you get off to my (you)'s or are you so fucking weary of yourself that you get a little squeak when coming into threads that you have nothing. to. contribute. for but stupid fucking posts like that.

Your posts are literally the dumbest fucking shit anybody could ever read. Really.

>you're enabling game makers to shit on gamers with low quality garbage
How the fuck is anybody doing ANYTHING to anyone? Am I sending a message to companies when I post? "Ahyuck we see this post on 4chan lets create this game"

The game was announced in two thousand and fucking six you fucking piece of shit. You're fucking worthless. The game isn't low quality, you haven't seen a low quality game in your fucking life. Go ahead and get off to my posts, you are the most pathetic adult I have ever come across. Your life is garbage. I really would be happy if you died. You do nothing you useless poignant wrench .
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>>343711506
I think XV apologist is the same guy who is the token XIII apologist in every thread. He literally has no life and lives with his mom. Even she hates his obsession with bad FF games. His mom only likes VI, VII and IX.
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>>343711291
No I don't, the fuck does Zelda have to do with RPGs? Action RPGs are literally RPGs, as they are called Action RPGS.
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>>343711854
>this salt
Launch day of FFXV you'll kill yourself when you realize /v/ was right. FFXV is shit. All the warning signs are there.
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>>343711854
XV-kun finally snapped.. Gone full autismo.

>>343711896
Too bad XV isn't an action RPG.
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>>343711697
So you are an apologist to a shitposter.
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>>343711756
Yes it was.
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>>343711987
>Launch day of FFXV you'll kill yourself
It will be glorious.
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>>343711883
Why are you trying so hard to false flag people defending XV as people who like XIII? Is that really how desperate you are to dismiss people? FFXIII was fucking trash while XV looks genuinely like it could be one of the best FFs yet. Keep fucking crying you bitch nigger.

>>343711995
>Too bad XV isn't an action RPG.
Are you fucking stupid? It is objectively an Action RPG.

http://press.na.square-enix.com/products/p251/final-fantasy-xv

>it's an XV-kun boogeyman meme episode

See now in this thread already you have multiple posters being called XV-kun just because they are calling out shitposters, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Are you incapable of acting like actual people?
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>>343710898
I wasn't whining about the decision of that cast wearing what they have or looking what they are. I know the game got its own reasons to depict them like that, but this was the main cast they decided to PICK for the game. It could have been done otherwise or differently while still keeping them.

Even if we got that one Cid girl in the main cast, would have been a bit enough to tonne down the faggotry feel. It isn't just the look design too, but gameplay, i know it is might seem childish, but having a ninja, or a robot or something different gives you playstyle choices. Imagine if the Cid girl summoned a suit mecha for her to get on.
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>>343712310
fuck off xv-kun
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>>343711987
>>343711995
The salt is poured all over you. I won't even be on the internet, I'll be playing the game, because I enjoy video games just like you enjoy shitposting. /v/ is never right. Never. And you aren't /v/, you're lonely pathetic adult male sitting at your desk and constantly refreshing.

You worthless fucking nigger.
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>>343712310
>it's an action RPG because square said so
yeah so is fallout 4
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>>343711987
>/v/
/v/ is not one person, this thread is literally Pesmerga samefagging and phone posting for the millionth time. Another faggot going on about apologists.

>All the warning signs are there.
There is none, nice try.

It'll be hilarious because you will actually kill yourself on XV's launch day.
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>>343712310
>Are you fucking stupid? It is objectively an Action RPG.
No it isn't. It's a shit tier action game.
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>>343712554
It's an RPG. Kill yourself you fucking idiot.
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>>343712414
See? Literal children.
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>>343712441
Square never said Fallout 4 was an Action RPG. XV is an Action RPG because it is literally action combat with RPG mechanics and foundation, thus Action RPG.

>t-the devs are lying it's not an action rpg it's something else that i don't know pls believe me guis!?
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>>343712438
>>343712479
This delusion is deep. He's samefagging as if that will change his fate.

When the game comes out he'll be in these threads defending it to the bitter end and later that night he will kill himself because he failed his 5 year mission of shilling the game.
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>>343712438
>/v/ is never right. Never.
FFXV launch day will be the best. You'll be here crying and saying we were right. Remember, there are no refunds on console shit.
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>>343712603
Are they bots? How can they enjoy acting like this? This is why I don't come in these threads. I really can't fathom their lack of self-awareness. It's like they are viruses.
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>>343712554
It's an Action RPG, keep sperging out like a little bitch over facts.
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>>343712823
No it isn't. It's a shit tier action game.
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>>343712113
On June 23, new in-game screenshots and details about Final Fantasy Versus XIII were revealed, and it was confirmed the game would appear at the 2010 Tokyo Game Show.

>On June 29, an issue of Dengeki PlayStation stated Nomura and the fashion company Roen had completed all character designs and the scenario was finished as well.

>On September 10, 2011 during the Final Fantasy XIII-2 fan meeting, producer Yoshinori Kitase was questioned about the development of Final Fantasy Type-0 and Final Fantasy Versus XIII. His answer was: "for Type-0 and Versus XIII we are giving 100% to development."
>early 2012 before Tabata joined
>On the Japanese gaming magazine Famitsu, Nomura announced the game will be a mix between real-time cutscenes and pre-rendered cutscenes with a ratio of 7:3 (70% real-time and 30% pre-rendered). He stated the next time the game would be shown there would be a demonstration using real time footage. Nomura said working on Final Fantasy Versus XIII took priority, in response to fans' requests for a Final Fantasy VII remake

Stop fucking lying you piece of shit, the project wasn't on hold from 2010 to 2012 like you said it was.
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>FFXV marketer still here
When he loses his job will he still bother defending this garbage? Everyone in the world can tell FFXV is garbage.
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>>343712753
didnt read, but here.

>>343712759
>no refunds
Sorry, but you'll definitely be the one crying.
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>>343712753
>samefagging
Oh the fucking irony. It's honestly sad how much you have to try this hard to shitpost against XV as if you are trying to convince people it won't be good, if anything you are the one shilling here, shilling your shitposts and your anti XV mentality, why the fuck else would you samefag the same shitpost images over and over again for literal years? It's fucking hilarious how mad this game makes you because you can't deal with it being good.
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this thread is fun to read
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>>343712759
I'm not sure what you are even trying to say, we already know XV will be good, the other XV related media is also getting almost universal positive acclaim and the game will too.

>mentions console specifically
Oh I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>343712771
It's genuine rage at the thought of XV being positively received, like they are doing everything in their power to anti hype the game.
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>>343712729
you are literally fucking autistic if you nitpicked my bad english

i never meant to say that square said fallout 4 was a RPG, what i meant to say is that saying FFXV is an action rpg is as ridiculous as saying FO4 is
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So many posts in this thread are the same. Almost as if one guy, a FFXV kun if you will, were making them.
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>>343712853
Keep memeing my dude.
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>>343713261
Nope. More like FFXV Anti kun.
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>>343713051
Funny of you to say this, because i was thinking about how depressing it is to read these threads.
I associate Final Fantasy with relaxing, comfy games, with content and themes that could spark good discussions. These threads are just awful and doesn't make this series any justice.
Probably consequence of the downhill route the games have taken.
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