>Adept style makes the game babymode
>Weapons still lose sharpness too fast
>tripping
>No Apex monsters
>MHF-tier Hunter Arts
>censored female armour designs
>hardest monster in the game is a retarded owl
wow they really ruined this series.
What are you going to main?
>he doesn't use aerial style
Can the game just fucking come out already? I'm so sick of the demo
>>343675114
>>No Apex monsters
Ferocious and Variants are superior in every way
In all seriousness, the owl is a right bastard. I've gotten better at fighting him but he's still fucking annoying.
I hope everyone getting this realise its 90% reused assets and levels right?
Apex monsters were cancer.
>>343675735
Oh no. They've never done that in monhun before. What a travesty.
>>343675114
>Weapons still lose sharpness too fast
what do you mean by this?
The guild style is my favorite still.
>>343675735
That's the entire point of the game. That's why it was called X (cross) in Japan and Generations here. And Monster Hunter games all pretty much reuse assets for 90% of your playtime anyway.
>>343675803
Right okay, they usuallt reuse 30% but X is an anniversary nostalgia game. Its towns and levels are all from old games. It has like 2 new areas and 6 new monsters.
Im not complaining im just saying I hope people know it isnt a entirely new game going in. Its a nostalgia game.
>>343675832
Have to sharpen twice a hunt sometimes zzzz
Where my GL bros at? Striker seems really strong. I was upset at nerfs at first, but you can keep the gauge red so ez
>>343675715
Bow makes the owl a joke, same with adept style in general.
>>343675114
Finally wanted to switch from lance to something else, since I've mained it for years. After trying striker lance, I don't want to switch anymore. Fuck everything
>summerfags who don't know how mh threads start on /v/
>legitimately replying to the OP
jesus
>>343675114
>No Apex monsters
You say that like it's a bad thing somehow.
>censored female armour designs
The fuck are you even talking about? This is the first I'm hearing of it, and /v/ throws a shitstorm at the first whiff of censorship.
>>343675794
This.
Fuck wystones.
>>343675114
Proofs of censorships?
>>343676234
post the cat
>>343676141
There's always morons who take OP seriously. It's been that way for years now.
>>343676234
>He owns a vita
Are you also bigfoot by any chance?
>>343676234
What up.
>5% of bowgun armor is viable
>MHX
>bushido style gives free evade + 2
>95% of bowgun armor now viable
>>343675114
>gaypex
People actually found them fun?
>>343676234
I hope that this is just one REALLY dedicated guy posting this and not multiple people. I'm probablywrongthough
>>343676453
>needing evasion + on a ranged weapon
are you fucking serious
>>343676542
I posted it once and got called out for not being that guy. It is one guy.
>>343676616
It's not a bad idea when your armour is made of paper and you aren't always going to have three other fuckers distracting the monster for you.
>>343676616
You obviously have never played HBG/LBG faggot.
You need at least evade distance+ or evade+ in your set or you get caught out with multi hit attacks or aoe shit at some point that kill you in one hit.
>Legitimately liked Apex and Guild Quests
I'm going to miss grinding 140s.No, really. Unless you gibbed it with Hame runs, 140s were really diffcult and felt rewarding as hell to clear.
>>343676616
Bow you're always a bit in the danger zone because of critical distance
Bow you're always going to be rolling/dodging some attacks anyways
Theres Z E R O reason to not go bullshito bow.
The time it took you to dodge and insta-charge is faster than the time it would take to run away to avoid and then charge.
>>343676616
>not using evasion on a bowgun
so did you ever beat that high rank yet?
>>343676616
HBG/LBG always needed Evade Extender
Evade+ not so much
>>343676453
Bullshido isn't even free evade+2, you'll still eat shit for dodging too late or early.
>>343675114
>No Apex monsters
They sucked shit
The only bad thing about MHX is no G rank
>>343676746
>>343676843
>>343676912
>>343676974
>it's a /v/ doesn't understand spacing on a ranged weapon episode
big surprise
>>343677078
>he thinks he can sit from one side of the map and fire safely
You should look up what "Critical Distance" is my friend.
>>343677078
you ever try to play solo?
>>343676234
POST THE MOTHERFUCKING CAT YOU GOD DAMN ASSHOLE
>>343677078
There are literally dozens of multi hit attacks and rng moments you cant predict. Youll get one shot without a decent set.
Please by all means show me what gunner gear you use.
>>343675491
Came out a year ago, m8.
>learning how to do SnS in the demo
>practicing against Malfiesto
>get hit by enraged confusion turns
>run away
>get hit out of it by cat
>cat hits me into big AOE confusion explosion
>repeat
>stunned dead
>move on to Narga in frustration
>kill it no problems
Fuck Malfiesto. Anti-fun monster.
>>343678173
Just go ranged against it. It's the only reasonable choice for such a fucking chore of a fight.
>>343675114
>censored female armour designs
The bait to start the thread's a little too ridiculous.
>>343678389
Yeah, adept HBG is great.
>oh no, he's going to confuse or sleep me
>roll into the attack
>fly around in a circle getting the free reload
>shoot bird in face from CD while it tries to throw its confusion spirit bomb at me that i'm already immune to thanks to the fifth amendment that stops you from being hit by an attack you already dodged or blocked
It's pretty alright
>>343675991
GL is absolutely worthless in this game
>>343678758
>thanks to the fifth amendment that stops you from being hit by an attack you already dodged or blocked
good sentence anon
Rooms?
>>343675976
The areas taken from older generations aren't a 100% port. Ledges have been added here and there and textures have been touched up/redone in places, never mind the resource gathering spots having more recent assets.
7 new monsters.
Maccao
Burd
Tailblade
Bugzapper
Soapsnake
Stompyfluff
Bonetentacles
Plus Variants that haven't been seen before, with new moves, mechanics, and gear.
this game needs to come out already
>>343678783
No it's not. It lags a couple minutes behind on the most popular (read: easiest) monsters to hunt. That's about it.
It's more like some other weapons have stupid broken combos of arts and styles.
>>343679063
It's been out for 10 months.
If those nerd hackers cant figure a way for me to transfer my jap X save to Generations ill be mildly upset
Adept LS on Nargacuga makes me feel guilty. Still having trouble with it on Malfestio though.
What style gets rid of the golf swing for hammer? Cause fuck that style. If it's not there my combo rhythm is off and I just don't like the look of two normal slams. In the demo only one style didn't have the golf swing if I recall. Is it just the style, the skills on it, or what? I want to know what to avoid so I don't end up with no golfswing.
>>343679350
Adept
Striker
>>343679225
theres no point in playing if i cant tell my team to git gud
Adept and Aerial style feel like fucking modded into the game and completely break the game balance in my opinion.
With Adept you get Dark Souls tier iframes and your mobility basically goes up by 500% while the monsters retain their slow and deliberate movement and attack animations. It feel like i'm fucking overpowered.
And Aerial style is just so spammy and feels stupid and not fleshed out, like a fanmade mod some guy made within a week.
I hope i speak for most of us when i say i hope Hunting Styles don't make a return in MH5
>>343679350
Get the demo and find out
I feel ya, there's a style that messes up my CB rhythm
>No Apex monsters
that's a good thing
>>343676912
I'm going to avoid Adept bow. My (apparently non-existent) reason is this: There is a chance that styles and arts may not transfer over to following entries, at least not 100%, however the changes to Guild Bow (New coatings, double backhop being an instant lv3 charge, both power AND arc shots) likely will.
I'm going to try to master double backhops and arc shots rather than just doing adept dodges and power shots only.
>>343679427
上達します
>>343679350
Adept gets rid of a lot of the 'string' moves for hammer that let it transition between triples and stuff. It feels that way, at least. I should look up a thing that details what styles cut what moves.
I don't know about the golf swing being cut but if there was a style that did, it would probably be Striker. That one removes near or over half the move set for every weapon. It's fucking awful for HH.
>literally have to super pound to play your 3rd note
YEAH NAH
>>343679191
The heat gauge made it fucking unplayable for me. I used to play GL all the time in 4U but I can't bring myself to bother in X, especially with the stupid damage nerfs on top of everything else. I really hate the way they're trying to force you into using the full burst more, because it's a huge trip hazard in multiplayer.
>>343679415
Thanks, fuck those styles then. What determines your style? Is it just something you choose outside of armor? Cause I really hope my favorite armors don't force me to not golf swing.Yes I know this seems overboard or stupid. I just sucked really hard trying to play without it. I guess my muscle memory is tied to it more than I thought?
>>343679558
Playing Adept bow is no different from playing guild bow except you get a free charge for dodging.
Double back hop lv3 charge isn't as good. Power shots are more optimal damage than arc.
>>343677043
Adept has a larger trigger window and furthermore, making a contact with an attack any time in that trigger window will cause you pass through the entire attack safely, plus some follow-up attacks. This isn't the case for regular dodges, which not only have a smaller i-frame window, but you WILL eat shit once that window closes and you're still in an attack.
>>343679443
I already hated them the second i heard of them
I havent played mh in awhile but when x comes out im sticking to default. Fuck that flashy bullshit
>>343679716
You pick style in your room.
>>343679716
You pick your style.
It's not tied to anything.
To me it just feels like 4U with some cheap skills to make fights easier.
I don't know if I still want to get it since I haven't finished 4U yet.
>>343675715
which game is that?
>>343679443
your dogding shit at the cost of arts.
So you are able to run away from shit and not kill it quickly. The negative is it takes longer to kill shit.
>>343679968
Anon.... What game do you think?
>>343679842
>>343679858
Thank fuck. Everything is peachy then. I can hammer shit in the face as I normally would and sometimes whip out a special slam combo.
One other thing to anyone who has played the JP version. Are you able to map the touch pad camera controls and the map on the touch pad? I don't mind if it'd get rid of two or even all the skill slots. I got used to the touch pad camera and without it I could tell a difference in how I could react to things in the demo.
>>343679748
Arc shots add more attack opportunities at long range that power shots can't make up for. I understand that Adept is better in terms of the instant charge versus double backhop, but I would rather not foster bad habits that won't carry over into the future.
>>343679968
Anon... i...
>>343680049
>Adept takes longer to kill shit
Confirmed for not having actually played the game, you're retarded. Adept enables you to stay at the monster 24/7, you don't "run away", and the attacks that follow up the adept dodge are extra fucking strong.
>>343679637
>damage nerfs
The shells got a very slight nerf, nothing too hardcore. Poking is literally exactly as strong as it is in 4U the moment you hit Orange, which is nearly immediately, and is 5% stronger than 4U once you hit red.
>force you to use the full burst more
They ain't forcing shit. They're giving you more reasons to use it, or the slam at the very least. You don't need to full burst.
Voice of experience, poke poke shell poke poke shell or a series of charged shells will work just as well to get your damage up. Maybe it won't do it in as huge a chunk in one shot as full burst but that's not the only way.
>IG's XXAXXAXXA infinite is still in
Hooray, I can be a fucking blender again!
>>343675114
which armors are censored?
>hardest monster in the game is a retarded owl
>owl
>hard
It has basically no hp and the confuse usually only has you walk in the wrong direction for a econd before you adjust to the reversed stick
Apex monsters were shit anyway.
>>343680216
I don't understand why people keep asking about the touch pad customizability.
Three fucking entries they've had it and haven't removed jack shit. They're not going to start now.
>>343680228
The adept play style is not any different than it is 4u bow playstyle, what bad habits are you referring to?
>>343680480
Nothing is censored
Since there's no other thread to do this, who's up for a Hunt?
Narga room, use whatever the fuck weapon you want to use, main or not.
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>>343680620
so it's just another shitpost bulletpoint?
>>343680291
Yeah those 250 hours in X I must have imagined.
>>343680480
Damn maybe i should pick a qt this time
>>343675245
aerial hammer is so much fun.
>>343680696
>Since theres no other thread to do this
You know there's a monster hunter general on /vg/ right?
>>343680696
Im in wait fo' me
>>343680480
holy fuck the super lagombi armor is somehow even cuter
>>343680584
Because it's not in the demo
Anyone else feel like switch axe is really good this time around? It feels really nice to use, but I never liked it in the other games.
>>343680879
Isn't it kinda dead though? That's what I keep hearing.
>>343681012
>really good this time
>best weapoon in 3u
>really good this time
>top 5 weapon in 4u
>really good this time
>this time
>>343675976
the old areas are still new to people that haven't played the older MH games
>>343681012
It is fucking awesome
>>343680616
>is not any different
Except it is. Bow playstyle was previously defined by constantly staying on the move, as since it was one of the most mobile ranged weapons, there was literally no reason to actually try to dodge any attacks head on.
Adept playstyle wants you to run headlong into attacks rather than avoiding them entirely. The bow wasn't built to do that. Furthermore the backhop was a great way to adjust your distance or move out of an attack by inches, and now backhopping twice in that manner will give you a level 3 charge instead of just expending valuable stamina.
>>343680970
I can't remember any demos that had customizable touchscreens. Presets maybe, but not customizable.
>>343680763
You must have been playing Adept wrong if it actually slows you down, retard
>>343681110
because /v/ermins refuse to actually go there
>>343681250
Slows you down due to less arts you twat
>>343675976
We know
>tfw i really like gunlance but it will always be bottom tier
>tfw timing out on the endgame village marathon quests because they filled them with a ton of monsters that do nothing but run all over the map
>>343681205
You're implying that Adept encourages to sit still or run into attacks.
Adept bow you play exactly like MH4U except now you get rewarded for dodging.
I played solo bow, there are attacks you will still have to dodge.
Adept is just guild but with a bonus for rolling through attacks.
>>343681012
>>343681190
I appreciate that axe mode's damage got buffed back up, but literally every style short of adept focuses on sword mode, as do the arts. It's really, really depressing.
You have no idea what I would give for axe mode to be capable of using phial, or a "Demon Axe" art that did the same thing it does for sword mode, but to the axe.
>>343680480
post male version
>buying Generations when MHXG is out in a few months
>>343681443
Youre aware of how full retard they went with GL in X/Gen right? With the heat meter,
>>343681379
Less arts, which equals like 140 motion value per minute, traded for being able to stay on the monster the entire time and hitting it 100 more times.
You're a mouthbreathing retard. Adept is fucking overpowered and makes short work of every monster. Besides, the after dodge attacks easily make up for the lack of arts in motion value
I don't even know why i'm still responding, you're clearly clinically retarded.
>>343681610
MHXG won't exist.
This is a spinoff game to celebrate anniversary. and started development in 2014.
This is "just for fun" monster hunter title to hold us off until MH5.
>>343681610
>G
>2 million units planned
Nope. It will be 5.
>>343681610
MH5 more likely, which we aren't getting until a year after MH5G comes out in Japan.
>>343681812
>overpowered
>best speedrunners and pro hunters dont use it
Kek
>>343681576
Here you go
>>343681662
I know, yes. It's not too bad once you got it up and locked it in place with wyvernfire, but carting really sets you back a lot more than any other weapon because of it
>>343681012
SA is really good this time around, but there's no reason to use axe mode, which defeats the purpose of the weapon.
>>343681524
>adept is just guild
But it's not. You lose arc shots and backhops. You hold still without fear of getting hit then dodge at the last second for an instant charge, instead of moving out of the way while still charging to fire off on the retaliation.
>There are still attacks you will still have to dodge
You're not moving around enough if you actually have to dodge attacks outside of merely repositioning out of their way.
Adept is nothing like Guild at all for the Bow, not in how its mechanics are set up, not in how it plays. If you're treating it like Guild, then you're not taking full advantage of it and are doing sub-par damage in the style.
With Guild you have to be careful with your power shots else you'll be stuck in recovery and eat shit because you don't have enough time to reposition, you have to learn to sacrifice a charge if you fucked up your positioning and need to dodge out of the way. These aren't things you do in Adept.
>>343682064
This, they completely ruined SA, even though it's strong as shit now
>>343675114
>Adept style makes the game babymode
So don't use it, this isn't a competitive game.
>Weapons still lose sharpness too fast
That's how the game goes, get razor sharp or make sure to maximize your damage on the right bodypart
>tripping
Good
>No Apex monster
Good. Wystones were dumb.
>hardest monster in the game is a retarded owl
Confusion is fantastic, it's way better than blast and bleed were.
reminder that long swords are for easy mode weebs
>>343676402
B E S T
>>343681980
Thanks anon
Level 9 Thunderlord Zinogre japanese times:
1st) Lance (Striker) : 5'25'14
2nd) Dual Blades (Striker) : 6'21'16
3rd) Switch Axe (Striker) : 6'34'20
4th) Insect Glaive (Guild) : 7'31'08
5th) Greatsword (Striker) : 7'38'30
6th) Hammer (Guild) : 7'48'63
7th) Longsword (Striker) : 7'51'41
8th) Prowler (Fighter) : 8'07'01
9th) Sword & Shield (Striker) : 8'14'50
10th) Charge Blade (Striker) : 8'43'18
11th) Gunlance (Adept) : 9'47'66
12th) Hunting Horn (Guild) : 9'57'46
13th) Light Bowgun (Adept) : 13'33'18
14th) Heavy Bowgun (Adept) : 14'01'90
15th) Bow (Adept) : 14'29'98
Level 10 One-Eyed Yian Garuga japanese times:
1st) Greatsword (Striker) : 05`08`03
2nd) Switch Axe (Guild) : 05`19`30
3rd) Heavy Bowgun (Adept) : 06`03`91
4th) Sword & Shield (Striker) : 06`08`43
5th) Insect Glaive (Guild) : 06`13`53
6th) Hammer (Guild) : 06`23`41
7th) Longsword (Striker) : 06`39`13
8th) Hunting Horn (Guild) : 06`55`78
9th) Prowler (Fighter) : 07`29`75
10th) Lance (Adept) : 07`36`50
11th) Charge Blade (Striker) : 07`43`60
12th) Dual Blades (Bushido) : 07`52`40
13th) Light Bowgun (Striker) : 08`42`60
14th) Bow (Adept) : 09`03`38
15th) Gunlance (Adept) : 09`45`26
Adept Bow feels really, really dirty, I already do better against Demo Narga with it vs my main, Hunting Horn.
>>343681610
>>343681815
>>343681828
>>343681847
>new generation mainline MH is now a mere 2 million sales series
What went wrong?
>>343681662
>full retard
The heat meter is fine. It finally addresses a major issue that existed with the Gunlance in prior entries where you would either shell 95% of the time or poke 95% of the time. The real issue is that they shouldn't have nerfed shelling damage in the process of adding it.
>>343676271
Blame the OP for bringing up valid points this time around instead of cheap bait.
>>343681980
Second on the third row, what monster is that set?
>>343681815
It isn't a spinoff (it's still main series), it's more like a compilation of sorts before Gen 5
>>343681980
>Gammoth
>Critical Uragaan
UHHHHHH THICKER
>>343682124
There is no reason to use arc shots anon.
Backhops aren't as important as you're making them out to be
>With Guild you have to be careful with your power shots else you'll be stuck in recovery and eat shit because you don't have enough time to reposition, you have to learn to sacrifice a charge if you fucked up your positioning and need to dodge out of the way
This absolutely applies to adept as well, adept doesn't let you magically cancel out of animations anon.
>>343681828
>Lower sales target than 4, 4G/4U, and X
>There's still no reason to use the SA's axe mode
Might as well rename it to "Sword with a glorified reload mechanic"
>>343682341
2million is what they need to make a profit
it will sell more than that
>>343682349
The reward from building and locking the heat meter is the same damage as older games because they nerfed the fucking shells.
How is that not full retard? Its the lowest tier weapon
I'm having a blast with Aerial hammer
is there any reason to use the other hammer styles?
>>343682341
Smart Japs would wait till G releases and not buy the first version.
>>343682450
End of 3DS life and piracy.
>>343682541
Even MHX had a 2.5 million sales target.
>>343682638
Base version always sells better except for P2G. Learn your history.
Retards will have you believe "le adept breaks le game" but all the fastest hammer and greatsword and SA times are done with guild.
Adept is an unoptimal training wheel style for most weapons, only LS is truly meant to be used with nothing but adept.
>>343675114
I'm gonna stick with Switch Axe in 4U, and skip Generations. MHX was utter shit.
>>343680480
Monster for the last set?
>>343682685
End of PSP life title (which was actually 5 years before the actual end of life for PSP) with more rampant piracy, MHP3rd sold 5 million. Half a million of that from HD version. And there's barely anything new in that game.
>>343682845
What about gunning? Nothing beats dashing into siege all around the monster. Adept fits the guns best.
>>343682435
It doesn't let you magically cancel out of animations, but due to the mechanics of how adept dodges work, it's a LOT less punishing and a lot more rewarding in situations where you might have just recovered from a power shot but not have enough time to orient yourself then move out of the way.
>backhops aren't as important as you're making them out to be
They weren't something you used CONSTANTLY, but they had their uses. And now they have even more use with the instant charge which opens up a lot more retaliatory attack opportunities if you bother to learn how to use it.
>there is no reason to use arc shots
Exhaust > Rage. This is especially useful for ranged weapons. Furthermore it does a lot of hits which is good for high element bows, and I learned back in 3U that the weapon should be treated as an element weapon due to the number of attack hits it has on literally ANY of its attacks, and this is more clear to me than ever now thanks to the emergence of Elemental Boost Coatings.
Arko Du (Y) literally murdered Rathalos and knocked him out like twice a hunt from arc shots alone when I played 3U. That's a VERY difficult impression to remove. Not to mention Arko Du (R) being extremely useful for Duramboros due to being able to annihilate its humps all hunt long with stupid high fire output.
>>343683051
Most Japs are GS circlejerkers so I don't want to cite their gunning times because I'm willing to bet western gunners are better than Japs.
>>343683009
Yeah, thats with 80 million fucking PSP owners. And at MH peak
>>343682581
If it's the same damage then what's wrong? Oh, woe is you, you have to learn a new mechanic or adapt to a new playstyle that ultimately fits the weapon more than any playstyle previous?
You're just as bad as those who complained about 4U's aura meter. It wasn't perfect and could have used some more work, but it was the best aura meter of the bunch no matter how it affected the weapon's kill times (by an insignificant amount) in that entry alone.
>>343683359
4u was the worst game in the series so yeah not a very good defense
>>343683248
No PSP has less userbase in Japan then (in 2010) than 3DS userbase in Japan now. 3DS surpassed PSP lifetime in Japan end of last year.
>>343683359
You literally have to work towards balancing a meter with the reward of getting NORMAL damage output. You are the first person ive ever seen defending X GL as its common knowledge its the worst weapon in the game.
>>343683548
This, 4U fucked weapon balance in the fucking ass.
GG two SA
>That fucking finisher
>>343683009
It was new for the people who played it.
All the reused content was from tri which was VERY barebones and on a console and a Nintendo one at that.
At that point all the MH kiddies were still on their PSP so they probably just ignored tri entirely so to them p3rd was 100% all new stuff after the years of dos rehashes.
>>343683548
>>343683359
It just fits the way you're supposed to play gunlance, anyway.
But there are a ton of hunters who only use Long shot-type gunlances and never shell, so they're having trouble adjusting. You used to be able to just stick to physical attacks and wyvernfire whenever it was off cooldown. It was never as much damage as a normal type gunlanced mixing in shells with their attack combos, but they felt like they were doing good just landing those wyvernfires.
>>343683085
We can't really use 3g as a basis because they functioned differently. 3g didn't have power shot. I understand that we may just have different playstyles regarding bow and neither of us will be successful in convincing the other. I very much prefer power over arc just because I will end the hunt faster. I also prefer to use heroics so higher damage is something I prefer overall. Remember in 4u the best bow was Karma Sedition, there was no need or reason to go for element bows. Guild backhop into charge and Adept dodge into charge are just conveniences, however adept will get more mileage out of their convenience than adept will. You can play exactly as you would in 4u but this time instead of losing a charge when you dodge you now gain a charge. You're a 3g bow player and I'm a 4u bow player.
>>343683548
It was a solid title until you started getting involved in endgame GQs and the relic system. Those could have been implemented a lot better.
>>343683626
I think the sales of MHP3rd was people without a wii or who didnt want to play MH on console bought it in droves. Think of all the people who didnt want Tri on wii that had already put 1000's of hours into Freedom1/2/MHFU
And it was imported a crazy amount.
>>343683726
How was it not? It casualized the series, brought back the terrible low to g rank system which just made low and high rank worthless filler, brought back some of the worst monsters in the series while ditching all the good Tri era monsters, terrible weapon and armor balancing as well. The bulk of 4u is an awful mmo tier grind loot system
>>343680480
>the Astalos armor
WE SURPASSED FULL /m/, WE SENTAI VILLAIN NOW
>>343683649
How so?
Bow was finally godlike.
CB wasn't ass anymore
IG was god
GS was always top tier
GL was always SHIT
E+3 made evasion lance retarded
DS was great
sns/hh/lbg were meh unless in a group
HBG was godlike
>>343683720
>>343683976
>such made up arbitrary reasons are why a game will magically sell an extra 3 million compared to the latest title in the 12 year mega series
You guys should be in the boardroom. Fuck sales analysts and their objective numbers, subjectivity is what sells.
I'm done with monhun until they fucking adjust monster health/damage/stagger to the number of players.
It's a fucking hassle to solo G rank since everything takes 20-30 minutes to kill and playing in a group of 4 makes it one of the easiest games in existence.
>>343682416
Grimclaw Tigrex
>>343684434
Can YOU explain why Portable 3rd sold 5 million fucking copies despite being absolute shit?
>>343683548
>4U
>worst game in the series
As bad as 4U is, remember that in 12 days when you're playing MHGen. You'll come crawling back.
>>343684492
Hunts shouldn't take you that long unless you're trying to solo with Hunting Horn.
>>343681980
top right looks comfy as fuck
Why is MHX LR composed primarily of nothing but gathering quests?
>>343684631
I'd crawl back to 3U before I crawled back to fucking Rajang hunter.
>>343684492
This is why you play with 2 people.
But I 100% agree health should scale at the beggining of the quest
Who is cutest monster and why is it Tama?
>playfully slides around you
>can heal and buff you
>flops around so much that he ends up missing you most of the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn-3ClDyNV0
>>343684747
they decided to throw 4 villages worth of quests, you are essentially playing the tutorial 4 times over
>>343684789
>hunting Rajang
Who seriously does this? His relics are ugly as fuck.
>>343684747
They wanted to push their village points. Most of them aren't keyquests but you have to do them anyway to unlock endgame village
>>343684965
easiest apex to kill and farm
So, will this be the best entry point for newfag?
>>343684789
>tfw Gintama predicted MH4U
>>343682990
Looks like the Edel set in red
http://kiranico.com/en/mhx/bougu/rare2
>>343684623
MH peak was correct but all the other made up stupid reasons are false. But it's more about why this year's title is going to be MHXG. MH5 on 3DS simply won't have a sales projection below the original MH4's 2.8 million (back in 2013).
>>343685382
Huh, I always wondered what that was about. Only farmed Deviljho/other monsters by themselves.
>tfw 720 Deviljho on GC
>only 87 jang
>>343685434
Yes, adept style essentially serves as training wheels for learning the monsters movesets without carting, and then later on newbies can switch to the optimal style and arts etc.
>>343684695
lol here come the /v/ "pros" who can solo everything in G rank in under 10 minutes. Stop bragging on the internet faggot
>>343680374
>Poking is literally exactly as strong as it is in 4U the moment you hit Orange
actually, they are slightly weaker. Orange is 15% stronger than yellow, which is 15% weaker than 4U base. Red ends up being about 2-2.5% above 4U
The gameplay in MHX is easily the best in the series.
The problem with the game lies more in the fact that there's zero incentive to get more than one weapon per class. There's one setup that beats every other on 99% of monsters for every weapon. Tigrex for GS, Hammer and CB. Hellblade + Silver Sol set for every other blademaster weapon. Daora for pierce LBG. Silver Narga for normal LBG. Daora for HBG. Teostra for bow.
Once you have these you have beaten the game. There are only two useful armor sets. Maybe four monsters give useful weapons. No variety. No longevity.
>>343680480
>>343681980
I can't decide which gender to be anons, I can't decide.
This is way too much pressure. On one hand you've got the qt-pie tanned girl option and the other a manly badass hunter, how could anyone possibly decide?
>>343685717
>tfw less than 10 Rajang on my GC.
>>343685628
>but all the other made up stupid reasons are false
You think people werent extra excited in japan to play Gen 3 on handheld? Its known that MH does far FAR better on handheld. Gen 3 coming off console onto handheld absolutely boosted sales. Not to mention all the new content compared to Tri which was empty as fuck.
This shit definitely contributed to sales.
>>343685741
Adept style is the optimal style on about half the weapons though. Depending on the monster of course, but it's almost always either Adept or Striker.
>>343686082
Tri had good content, the problem is it used an awful HR system and HR51 quests were bland. iirc there were like 5 different Deviljho quests that just changed the area he spawned in and then some doubles
>>343685810
What's so good about the Daora LBG?
>>343685834
>how could anyone possibly decide?
Easy.I make both and take both of them to endgame.Although I'll probably spend most of my time with the female save.
>>343686240
>Adept or Striker.
But two of the best weapons in the game, GS and SA, are best in guild. Adept is best on guns and LS, that's it.
Reminder to use Absolute Readiness on every weapon. Absolute Evasion on top of that when using Striker.
99% of weapon-unique hunter arts are godawful.
>status ailment affecting the controls of the game
Dasding better make a custom quest maker the moment MHG hits, i dont want to farm dash juice
>>343684889
>>343680480
man i cant wait to be a lazy piece of shit and never grind to get those armors!!
>>343686547
>99% of weapon-unique hunter arts are godawful.
>Tfw SA has the best and worst hunter arts at the same time
>>343686585
You mean APM better make a save editor for it or Kriogenic better port his X one over, right?
I'M GOING TO PLAY THE WHOLE GAME AS A KITTY
AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
>>343686793
Just make powersaves work and ill be golden
>>343686520
SA is best in Striker. For GS it's a tie between Guild and Striker.
Meanwhile at every other weapon.
LS: Striker or Adept
SnS: Striker
DB: Striker or Adept
Lance: Striker
GL: Adept
Hammer: Guild or Adept
HH: Guild
CB: Striker
IG: Guild unless it's Glavenus
LBG: Striker or Adept
HBG: Always Adept
Bow: Always Adept
>>343686454
Tried that in 4U, but it's so boring going back through the start of the game again.
I made it 70 hours into the game and got bored of the new save.Then immediately went back to collecting cute female armours.
>>343686846
you dont get prowler into later in the game
sorry anon
>>343686082
P3rd had 3.6 million sales target. P2ndG 2 years prior to it had a 2.5 million target but sold in excess of 4 million plus over the years, justifying P3rd's increased target (which means more marketing and such).
See this is objectivity, not arbitrary and subjective like game content or how many monsters you have.
>>343684631
No man i wont. At least 3u has tri monsters. Theres not a single enjoyable hunt in 4u since they nerfed deviljho to hell and back
>>343686738
what the fuck is the point of trance slash anyway? do the hits/burst have higher motion values than regular combo/burst?
>>343686738
>Every weapon has at least 1 good weapon-specific art
>except
>FUCKING
>HH
>>343687040
>unironically using HH in monster hunter
lol
>>343686959
that's a lie. you can get a prowler as soon as you start up.
>>343684356
They made hammer completely useless. Its literally just a downgraded, less flashy charge blade in 4u
>>343686994
Wrong! 140 Teostra is fun and comfy as fuck solo plus you get a chance at a good relic. Chaos Gore is another fun comfy hunt too.
>>343686863
I know that the tryhard clear times all use adept for HBG but I always played limiter off and don't like siege mode much. So I'll probably play as striker unless it's something that I really want siege mode for.
I want to run frenzy virus/gunpowder infusion/that self buff art. Although absolute evasion is really nice in the demo.
I guess adept would be hands down better early on before you get evade skills though.
>>343686342
230 raw+10% affinity. And sorry, I had them the wrong way around, Daora is for normal and Silver Narga for pierce. Daora's Hornet has a clip size of 7 for normal 2 and rapid fires it.
>>343687040
Hunting horn isn't actually meant to be played, it's in the game as a joke, like gunlance.
>>343675832
He's just a scrub that needs to git gud :')
>No more shield poke with Charge Blade
God fucking damn it why
>>343687229
140 teostra is not fun when every fucking retard triple carts before he even does his first explosion. Fuck guild quests and fuck 4u' french community
>>343687145
but thats wrong tho
>>343687314
Guild Style.
>>343687275
I thought I heard that they improved gunlance
>>343687129
HH has a badass concept and the most fun moveset out of all the weapons
every attack has a purpose
what absolutely fucks HH is that the motion values and weapon raw are far from balanced to it's animations
>>343687241
You start out with absolute evasion and unlock absolute readiness very quickly.
You still use absolute readiness even on adept HBG anyway. SA and LS are the only weapons with HAs worth using over the evasion ones.
Light bowgunner question. In the demo, I see people buffing blademasters with armor shots and the other type of buff shots. I tried it once, and I wad able to buff everybody with one shot, but when I tried to do it again for several times, I only buffed one person with one shot. Do they have to be very close to each other when I pull the trigger? Although I'm pretty sure the first time I did it, they werent very close.
>>343687450
They nerfed it. Which everyone saw coming. Every time some kind of gimmick gets attached to a weapon the weapon overall becomes worse.
See LS going from FU to 3rd gen.
>>343686994
Last decent MH with online though. You know Gen is bad when you can solo everything in 10-15 minutes endgame unless you use Hunting Horn/Gunlance. Why even hunt in groups at that point except for the annoying 5 monster multihunt quests.
>>343687461
>Most weapons have shit HAs
>ALL of LS's HAs are good
My nippon spirit is being sharpened.
>>343686584
>>343687590
>monster HP dictate game quality
??
MH5 will have insta style switching like DMC4
Trust me, my capcom works in my dad
MHG shits all over the mediocrity that was MonHun4U but the babbies who started the series with that game will never understand and will continue to fling feces at any new MonHun game. If you don't understand why MH4U was a disappointment then you need to leave.
>>343687450
Overall poke damage reduced by 15%
Yellow overheat = -5% damage less than 4u
orange overheat = equivalent damage to 4u
red overheat = 10% damage over 4u
>>343687716
It does though, MH is supposed to be about tiptoeing around monsters that can kill you in one hit while taking 20 minutes to solo. It's so boring otherwise, absolutely no tension.
>mfw Monster Hunter 5 on the NX
>>343687461
by skills I meant evade+ and evade distance, adept seems to give you that for free. Narga in the demo is waaay easier on adept hbg than the others.
>add new styles and attacks for every weapon
>but make them all bad
>add new cool special moves for every weapon
>but make them all bad
>add new mechanics to existing weapons
>but make them all bad
>add tons of really cool looking new armor sets and weapons
>but make them all bad
I really don't get the MH dev team. Is this their weird fucked up way of rewarding people for sticking to the roots or something?
>>343687387
Its factually correct you fucking mongoloid. Its literally worse in every single way, from damage to adaptability to moveset. Dont you dare talk to me like you actually know anything about hammer you 4u casual shit
>>343687253
Kek makes sense now. I wondering wtf you were seeing with the Daora for pierce gunning.
How about the Maccao LBG for pierce? RF pierce 1, has para shots and looks easy to make. No deviation and some recoil.
>tfw haven't bought a 3ds so I just play 3U on WiiU
Every time I almost buy a 3ds I think maybe they'll port one of these new MH to console. But deep down I know that will never happen. I should just buy a 3ds.
>>343675114
I really like the Prowler unironically.
>>343687926
It's difficult to introduce totally new elements into a series with pretty well established combat mechanics and keep everything balanced. They probably figured it would be better to err on the side of making the new shit underpowered rather than overpowered, so they were cautious.
Or they didn't actually want to change anything for the core audience, but still wanted to have a bunch of flashy new features to advertise the game with.
>>343688056
You know they won't port any until you buy a 3DS, so do us all a favor and buy one so we can all get the port.
>>343687873
>while taking 20 minutes to solo.
What the fuck are you people doing?
>>343687873
Classic MH was about that and what happened was that hit and run with high damage single hit weapons or ranged weapons became the only viable strategy
FU being HBG/GS/Hammer only wasn't just due to damage numbers, but mostly because monsters could chunk off 80% of your health by turning around
>SnS can now reliably KO monsters
We did it SnS bros. Maybe now everyone will take us more seriously. I got tired of getting kicked out of the room because I refused to switch to a "real weapon".
Is adept any good for GS?
Umm these games aren't on pc right
So can you fuck off with these threads?? Thanks
>>343687926
They desperately want to be like the Frontier team but fails at everything they copy.
>>343684747
Because you're talking out of your ass. You have FOUR villages and not even 1/4 of the village's quests are optional gathering quests to unlock MORE quests both in single and multi.
>>343688027
Maccao LBG is a decent starter gun before you can make the big boy guns. Alright damage and the high explosive rounds are fun, albeit gimmicky.
>>343688001
lv. 140 Yian Garuga
GS = 3:49
IG = 5:37
Hammer = 7:34
CB = 7:47
Bow = 7:49
HBG = 8:29
SA = 8:39
DB = 8:59
Lance = 10:21
HH = 10:40
GL = 11:24
LBG = 11:53
LS = 12:13
SnS = 12:20
yeah man sure is such a bad weapon
jesus Capcom what the fuckmaybe you're just bad?
>>343688230
This literally never happens
>>343681815
Nope. 2M MH title is coming out this year. The only way MH5 sells that little is if it's a launch title for a new platform. NX isn't out until March next year, so it's XG. You can call it a side game all you want, but the fact of the matter is it's just the next 4th gen title.
Can someone please explain what critical junction does?
