Best game ever was made in 2004.
/thread
>>343658276
sadly it is so old. i will play it when there is a remastered hd-edition.
>>343658276
I'm considering getting this. Can it be run on windows 10?
>>343660153
>>343658276
>be a badass fucking vampire
>oh wait no you are actually a little bitch that sits at the bottom of the blood sucking foodchain and can't even fuck shit up otherwise goes berserk because it's cool and edgy le beast XDDDD
most overrated piece of trash ever made since planescape torment, kill yourself
>>343658276
That's a funny joke OP. A game has to be able to stand as a vanilla experience to be good, and VTMB needs a fan made patch to even approach being playable. All it has going is setting.
The fucking haunted house always gets me, even now I think about quitting before I do that quest.
>>343662652
You fell for the Wesp5 propaganda. The game works better without that patch as long as you uninstall Tessera's patch that makes the game playable on modern operating systems. Wesp's patch adds more bugs than fixes.
>>343666260
>>343666473
I bet you haven't even played the game without Wesp's patch but it has crashed on you several times and you have assumed that it's because of the base game instead of the patch.
>>343662476
>badass vampire
vampires aren't that tough on world of darkness totem pole, actually. there's a reason they're social predators.
>>343666260
>Tessera's patch
oh man, anyone remember that fucking drama ten years ago? turned out tessera was fucking insane and she left the scene.
>>343666976
In WoD, haven't vampires historically lost when going up against humans en masse?
>>343658276
Please, Source engine is a fucking mess, cutscenes are laughable, load times between tiny areas, shit combat. Only reason you like it is because of hot vampire bitches, there's no other reason to play that broken piece of shit.
>>343660864
The pirated version can, I was playing 30 mins ago.
>>343667149
Yes and that was during the inquisition. Masquerade exists for that reason. Although to be fair, vampires got hit harder than most because they were preying directly on humans in the cities and you gotta keep in mind most of Europe was a dark forest back then so you didn't have much choice when werewolves stalked the countryside and other shit.
>>343667682
Do vampires in america solely exist in large cities?
>>343660864
The GoG version can, steam needs the unofficial patch.
>>343667832
No, Brazil has a large Gangrel population in their countryside, although every other clan only exist in large cities, usually 500k and up.
>>343667832
Gangrel like to hang out in the wilderness, but I imagine they know to give werewolf territory a wide berth.
>>343667832
No, but it's kinda important that canonically at least, it's one vampire per 10 000 or if 100 000 depending on which variant you use. Of course, that's all subject to dramatic effect and ST's decisions, but that's stated in the rules for city building. So you don't really get legions of vampires even in the largest of cities.
Are angels things in Wod?
>>343668323
Demon The Fallen is all about angels. That's what demons are.
>>343658276
just finished the game went for the independent ending, fucking bitch was hard.
>>343668323
Yes, but they do fuck all from what I remember from Demon where you play as fallen angels.
>tfw my backlog of things to read can't fit on one screen
>>343661134
Man I love the look of 1990's esq city at night with Goth undertones. Reminds me of Johnny The Homicidal Maniac and Hot Topic.
>>343662652
You can play the game with just the official 1.2 patch that was released a long time ago.
>>343666260
>Wesp's patch adds more bugs than fixes.
This, tried doing a playthrough with the unofficial patch and a quest was broken. Somehow he made the key for a vanilla quest go missing.
>>343667091
Yeah, Tessera is insane and uses his website for a hugbox. But, he does good work and his patch is what I use when I play. He was right about Wesp's unofficial patch being more of a mod, it makes unnecessary changes even with the basic version, and the plus version adds more things but also some low quality custom quests. I don't really like it.
>>343667369
It has a good story, multiple ways to play the game, varied missions (for the most part, near the end it's mostly the same), interesting characters, etc.
>>343668323
I think so, the lore pretty much says God is real
>>343662652
>All it has going is setting.
Not even the setting anymore really since the early 2000s are over and people grew out of urban goth stuff
>>343667091
I remember her(or his?) entire crusade against sexual repression or some shit like that, good times.
Reminder that Tremere is best clan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTMj-MfzdPI
who the h-e-double hockey sticks is Edward?
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/peGH7Jg.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
Posted this in the last thread. This game was inspired by VTMB and looks similar, except an Anon said it's more like a dungeon crawler. It sounds pretty good to me and I'm gonna pick it up on Steam before the sale ends.
Would anyone like a dump of clan pages from the books? I used to dump them loads a year or two ago, but maybe there's new people here.
>>343669357
http://vtmb.wikia.com/wiki/Ed
>Ed was a man that became known as the Ocean House hotel Axe murderer
>>343669370
It's pretty bad. I really really really wanted it to be good.
>>343669625
What's wrong with it? :(
I am glad and sad at the same time for playing this when I was super depressed with my life.
I can't replay it easily without getting a bleak chill of feels.
It does add to the atmosphere though. Good game for depressed times.
http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/
Mazmimum comfiness.
I got the game like a week ago on the GOG sale. Do I have to download patches to not get drowned in bugs? Any mods worth getting on the first playthrough? Mainly looking for graphical improvements.
>>343669370
It's inspired in a sense it has vampires. That's about it. Like you heard game is a dungeon crawler and buggy as fuck.
>>343669994
>I am glad and sad at the same time for playing this when I was super depressed with my life.
Same for me Anon. Unlike what that other Anon said >>343669117 the story is still relevant today and helped me think a lot about what's happening in the world. If you just focus on the goth stuff you miss the more important parts of the story.
>>343669731
Combats worse than Bloodlines, Plots not the best, the low budget really shows.
I appreciate that he made it, and im glad he got it on steam so he got some sort of payout from it. But it's still a bad game.
Buy it if you want though.
>>343658276
Why are unfinished games like Fallout 2 and VTMB okay but MGSV was not?
>>343669370
I don't know why we've had such bad luck with vampire games.
>>343670730
because fan patches exist.
>>343670730
Because RPGs have elements they can get away with, so to speak, even if other elements aren't as good. Really, MGS5's problem is that it's unfinished. That's pretty much it. Bloodlines was not unfinished, it's just buggy because they rushed the ending as opposed to cutting it out. I don't know Fallout 2 ended up there but Arcanum is more appropriate choice.
>>343670790
Delete this
>>343670790
I think Bloodlines worked because the source material was incredibly detailed and it was handled by devs who knew what to do with the source material
>>343669339
>Mages who gave up reality bending powers for half-baked hedge magic
>Everyone who isn't at the top of the pyramid is blood-bound in a chain to someone who is
>Not true Cainites and will always be viewed with suspicion by those who are
>Counter-magic for thaumaturgy can be learned by literally anyone who manages to find a teacher
>Best clan
It's literally a vaporware.
The game is so buggy and unfinished it's not even funny.
>>343671298
if it was vaporware it would have never been released, you tard.
>>343670591
Hmm that's disappointing, Bloodlines combat was already on the edge of being bad.
>>343670790
That game was terrible. I was excited after being in the club and feeling some VTMB references, and I might be a bit biased because I already don't really like stealth games, but I quit playing after a few missions. It feels boring just trying to exploit poor AI in stealth games.
>>343670790
Dark had a bit of a story behind it, it started off ambitious had an open world and the gameplay originally wasn't supposed to be stealth based.
But during development they got their funding cut, so they switched the focus to stealth (no need for combat ai) repackaged some of the levels they did butchered the story and released it as a budget title.
What hurt me so much about this game, was i went into it thinking it was going to be great.
>>343670790
Because their entire premise, story and everything else boils down to YOU'RE A VAMPIRE and game never moves past that point. Look at good vampire games like Legacy of Kain, Darkwatch, Bloodlines, etc - they have vampires and all associated elements, but they're usually not SOLELY about that because they have a proper story of their to tell. Legacy of Kain in particular is a series of vampires games that's not really about vampires per se, Blood Omen notwithstanding.
>>343658276
they were gonna make a white wolf's werewolf game too but the company went under :( sad times that game was really something. too bad V:TM-BL never caught on,,
Imagine....
if this game had taken off and opened up the game more like a GTA sand box. but still keeping true to the rpg vampire stealth elements of the game
getting in before dawn. dialogue options
factions to choose. npc upon npc is interact with
not to mention with a huge sandbox map all the side shit you could get into that was whitewolf related
i.e. :
more werewolves and other were-animals
mages
other supernatural types there are so many in the white wolf rpgs.
holy crap. too bad it prrobably wont happen
white wolf was bought by paradox interactive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEoG8YQrLuE
new video game eventually
>>343671813
I don't think I would like this game as much if it was sandbox. Sandbox games can be good but they aren't inherently better.
>>343671813
Well there are Hunter games on consoles but they're utterly mediocre action games.
>>343671926
>Crusader kings - vampire politics edition
>>343671926
It's not happening that soon according to RPG Codex.
> A friend of mine is a game designer who attended a White Nights conference in St Petersburg. There was a certain polish Paradox representative named Andreea (you can get her full name on the conference site, I don't want it to be googlable in this context). My friend is a big VTMB fan, so they talked and she told him that Paradox has already been approached by 3 different companies with a prototype for a World of Darkness game and they were all shit. And that Paradox is trying to come up with a concept of a game that would include everything World of Darkness has to offer, not just vampires, and so far they can't do it.
>>343672220
That's good though, I'd rather wait and keep enjoying VTMB than to have a spiritual successor come out and be shit.
Does anyone actually enjoy oWoD outside of Vampire?
>>343673410
Wraith and Demon are enjoyable, Mage players also swear by it.
>>343672550
exactly, you don't want them to rush out.
before this there was only the eve-mmo style game in the works that was cancelled. now we know there will be one world of darkness which can possibly incorporate every white wolf ip from mages to werewolfs
>>343672550
the video above also directly responds to the "will there be a bloodlines 2"
>>343674349
>before this there was only the eve-mmo style game in the works that was cancelled.
That was so disappointing. After like 10 years they only showed clothing physics and architecture.
>>343674496
at least the current owners own all of those assets, they used them to make the trailer
>>343671217
>mortal mages with shitty reality warping magic that you can never use or paradox into oblivion
>no stronger in practice than a vanilla mortal
>trade that garbage for infinite life and spells that now actually do things, throw fireballs with impunity and watch Mage tears flow
>"b-but muh paradox!"
>know that as a starting dot neonate you're stronger than a Mage with hundreds of XP
>>343674496
Just bad timing, unfortunately. CCP wasn't in a good position money wise at the time and had to cancel it and refocus their efforts on Eve.
Eve is fun, the only sandbox MMO that hasn't shit itself yet, but I would have played the fuck out of WoD had it been released
>>343674672
What trailer?
The only good vampire game is blood omen and you cannot prove me wrong.
>>343675049
at the end of the presentation >>343671926
Anyone keeping an eye out for that Vampyr thing?
I'm not holding out hope for it, but I'm kind of interested to see where the story will lead.
>>343675479
Thought it might be cool until I saw who's developing it
>>343674765
>know that as a starting dot neonate you're stronger than a Mage with hundreds of XP
And are also a complete slave stuck in a pyramid scheme that will never pay off.
Enjoy your third eye, diablerist.
>>343669339
>Tremere
>Not Brujah with the Ventrue skin.
>>343675721
Yeah.
Creators of the most forgettable game they named Remember Me and that Life is Strange thing which I have no idea what is about, but it has nothing which interests me whatsoever by the looks of things and the threads that discussed it on /v/.
>>343673410
All of the settings have their charm, some more than others.
Werewolf: This would be fun, but it really attracts the worst sort of degenerate players. Especially the Kinfolk. I suppose when you create a special race of creatures whose superpower is they can successfully mate with furry rage monsters, you're guaranteed to attract a certain type. Further, good luck finding anyone willing to RP out Rage. "I'm a Rage 4 model / social dilettante Galliard :^)"
Changeling: This game doesn't seem to know if it wants to be the grimdark story of dark fae creatures stealing into the souls of unborn babies and playing out the more twisted brothers grimm stories... or lighthearted "let's play pranks on teacher! XDDDD" crap. I personally blame the Pooka for it. As always, furries will ruin anything good.
Mage: The best part of Mage is that Demon came along and shat all over their setting. All of them were wrong, the Choristers were right, the Christian God is real and their Avatars are just dead angel soul fragments. At best Ascension is just empowering the Avatar enough to reform, deleting the Mage from existence. The big Archmage payoff at the end is a no-go. Of course, this is ignored by the collective Mage playerbase who will sit there comparing their "potential power" to every other setting until its pointed out, then act like Mage lore is in a vacuum and the other settings that contradict it don't exist.
Demon/Hunter/Orpheus: The best polished, and most fleshed out of the game series, especially Orpheus. They're the only ones with quality approaching Vampire and my strongest recommendation for anyone looking to dabble outside. Their lore also reinforces Vampire lore and doesn't get destroyed the way Werewolves and Mages do.
>>343675878
What about Wraith?
>>343668851
>90s city
I fell for the same mistake.
Game is set in 2004.
Please ignore the cyber cafes.
>>343676059
It's very modern, but for some reason Lacroix doesn't even bother giving you a smartphone.
>>343658276
yeah it was
>>343676020
Not him, but Wraith has the most creative and completely in depth setting and lore, but is difficult to actually play. It's by far the most grim setting, but is also the only one with a genuine hope of redemption/transcendence.
This is the setting where the first emperor of China is the undisputed ruler of the Asian dead, and is currently planning on using a billion sentient souls to make a palace forest for his own personal enjoyment.
>>343675730
>1 dot blood bond
Eh, that's about as much as a Vaulderie score. I can live with being partial to one Vampire in exchange for actually being allowed to use my super powers.
>someone pulls a gun on a Mage in the street
>Mage tries to cast, explodes himself
>someone pulls a gun on a Tremere in the street
>Tremere calls down lightning, throws fire, boils his blood, teleports, turns him into a frog, turns him into a mindless slave, magics up a bazooka, makes his arm wither off, or a million other Tremere spells with no side effect or consequence to the caster
>>343676219
>2004
>Smartphone
I might just be behind on technology but I don't recall smartphones in 2004. At best I would think you'd get a flip phone.
>>343676020
Wraith is a lot more fun to read than to play. Orpheus is a huge leap forward in that department.
>>343668006
South region must be filled with gangrel
>reading about all the bullshit Vampire powers/disciplines
>reach the Lasombra section
They can literally blot out the fucking sun.
They can move/teleport through shadows.
How the fuck aren't these guys at the top of the food chain?
>>343676430
Tremere calls down lightning, throws fire, boils his blood, teleports, turns him into a frog, turns him into a mindless slave, magics up a bazooka, makes his arm wither off, or a million other Tremere spells with no side effect or consequence to the caster
Except burning through all of your blood.
All of this requires hundreds of XP and being even more bloodbound to the Society of Vampire Dorks.
>want to play this game
>get spooked easily
how do i avoid all the spooky shit in this game
I like the game, but no...
>>343676504
Well maybe not a 2016 smartphone but they had proper cameras and stuff then.
>>343676654
Learning ALL of it, sure. But any one spell there would do and most would be achievable with a handful of XP or even starting dots. And casting a single spell isn't going to burn through your blood.
Face it, Tremere are just Mages that are worthwhile. Mages are conceptual fun. The belief that if everything lines up properly and the dice don't fuck you then maybe you could potentially...
Whereas Tremere just work. 9 times out of 10 a Tremere with equal or even less XP than a Mage will beat the Mage and it won't even be close.
>>343676725
Meditate in real life to build mental fortitude
>>343676620
>Dot out the sun
No, they can cover an area in darkness for a short while.
>They can move/teleport through shadows.
Gangrel can teleport through the ground, without being killed by sunlight. They must be the ones in charge, right?
>How the fuck aren't these guys at the top of the food chain?
Because they are suicidally cocky and dysfunctional and constantly get their shit handed to them.
>You foolish indolent petty savage animal idiots! I can blend with the very shadows! Rend you asunder with the complete edge of darkness!
>*sets shadow on fire*
>>343676841
Yeah you can tell the game was being rushed at this point, though strangely it gets a little better afterwards. Chinatown isn't terrible. But I'm still glad that I can get through it as quickly as possible and learned to avoid fighting the enemies in the sewer for the most part.
>>343676504
they did exist in 2004 (earlier actually), the likes of palm and blackberry effectively dominated that scene, everything else was a gimmickphone or a flipphone.
>>343676725
Why are you getting spooked if you play as a monster yourself?
>>343677012
Tremere are mages except they have other mages tell them what to do instead of reality.
>Tremere just work
Historically they don't.
You are literally falling for the same trick as mages. All of those powers require an immense amount of time, experience, blood, and dedication (which translates into sucking elder cock until they bother to teach you anything).
>>343677035
impossible
sorry for a somewhat late response but i thought i felt a spider on my leg and freaked out desu
>>343677213
I actually legitimately enjoy the Matrix assault on Ventrue Tower, especially when you're full Neo as a Toreador.
>>343676620
Because other Vampires are just as bullshit overpowered. A City Gangrel stacking Potence, Celerity and Protean claws usually wins any fight on the first initiative call, for example.
And the blotting out the sun thing is so low-generation you'd have to be an Antediluvian or Childe of one to pull off.
>>343677534
(You)
>that one graphics mod that adds tons of ugly out-of-place cyberpunk bullshit
>Razer logo for one of the vampire powers
>Real life branding like Starbucks
>But there's no other texture packs and the base textures it changes are legitimately good
>people keep telling others to download Wesp patch
tell me
why does the green froggy poster have to use green text when he speaks
is he autistic?
>>343677832
it comes bundled with the GOG version, get over it tess
>>343677343
Historically they do. Elder Tremere are top tier Kindred and control as much of the Camarilla as the Ventrue. And while we're talking about time, experience, blood, blahblahblah it really doesn't translate into anymore time than any other clan / auspice / kith / house / tradition spending XP.
>>343677784
Hello plebbit
Where does he stand in power rankings?
>>343658276
>threading your own thread
get a load of this faggot
>>343677997
What the fuck, this is like Valve selling Half Life 2 with Fake Factory
>>343678193
And they can all be equally as broken as a Tremere with the same amount of spending and not be blood slaves.
Might as well just praise the Tzimisce with Koldunic Sorcery or the Lasombra with Abyss Mysticism.
>>343676504
>tfw I owned of these in 2004
Pretty cool, emulated SNES games and even Doom on it.
>>343675740
using the ventrue skin for a Brujah makes no sense.
>>343678760
No way dude, most of the things the Plus Patch adds are things that were cut or new things based on things that were cut. Basic patch just makes the game run on modern hardware.
>>343679275
How much did that bad boy cost your parents?
>>343679367
I'm not walking around in some faggot dorag.
>>343679367
Is there a mod to change some of the clans skins? Some of them are shitty
>>343679457
Bought it from my own money, I think it was about 600 eurobucks.
>>343679639
sure you did
>>343679596
You can switch them around in the clandoc file. If you want new ones, you'll need mods. Though I've found no decent skin mods.
>>343673498
I swear by the game and setting of old mage but the rules are a clusterfuck.
So its best to just have a nice and friendly gm that cares more about the story and fun.
>>343679045
No, not all. In fact, not most. Thaumaturgy is retardedly OP, it's like top tier Mage magic without the fear of Paradox and the only truly solid defense for it is having Thaumaturgy yourself. Koldunic Sorcery while similar and fun, is far less versatile. You basically get some low-end elemental bullshit with very little practical usage. This is even moreso true with Abyss Mysticism where it's basically "buff my obtenebration: the spell".
And again, 1 dot is not a blood slave. L2VtM.
>>343679784
thanks
>>343679739
Turn off that projector son.
>>343677453
kek, most spiders are harmless and eat bugs that can spread disease, they're cool and some are cute desu
>>343679394
Plus patch randomly changes item locations like the item that gives +1 defense, and adds OP weapons earlier in the game. The custom quests it adds are also pretty low quality and break immersion in my opinion.
Basic patch still makes changes to the game, it's not just fixes like Wesp claims.
True patch is the best if you want the vanilla game fixed up. Unofficial patch is good if you want a mod to squeeze more life out of the game and see unused content. Both good, but different. One can't really replace the other.
>>343679639
Damn son, that's nuts.
Thanks for telling me, I was legitimately interested.
>>343679582
Yes, because a Brujah fighting in the streets would wear a luxury suit.
>>343679596
You can do it yourself by just editing a few lines in the clandoc. You can make your nosferatu look like Andrei or make your Tremere look like a malkavian if you wish. There's also plenty of skins and mods, just check out planet vampire.
>>343679582
>Not playing as a gril
Gangrel would be more appropriate, plus I'm pretty sure he loses the rag with other armor.
>>343679784
I think the mod that gives the nosferatu normal looking clothes is cool, being a nosferatu dressed in a biker jacket is pretty cool. Also, the eye mod that makes the eyes look alive and real is a must have imo, it's the one you see in all the good looking screenshots.
>>343680002
3/4 of his armors have the rag.
Anyone have that comic edit of video game shit storms except its edited for masquerade?
>>343679825
>And again, 1 dot is not a blood slave. L2VtM.
You are not going to have access to any high level Thaumaturgy without becoming more bound to your Vampire Anime Club. Lrn2VtM.
But wallow in your special snowflake Mage all you want.
>>343679903
Ventrue armour 0 is just a black t-shirt, m8.
>>343680002
Well, I'm also a hungry skeleton. I prefer not to be shown up by my own PC.
>>343680167
Says who? What retardation made you think buying dots of Thaumaturgy = accepting three step blood bond?
And it's pretty hilarious to see a salty Mage player call anyone a special snowflake.
>>343680138
I don't play as the most boring clan so I wouldn't know.
>>343679867
TPG still adds dumb shit like only allowing widescreen video modes unless you edit a text file, and making your numpad control the in-game camera for no reason
UP9.5 will be almost indistinguishable between the 2 for the laymen, and the drama for the patch ebing "bad" and "inaccurate" were from it's 7.0~ versions
>>343680395
>not having played every clan and gotten every ending
Tremere is the most fun to play despite being the absolute shittiest in lore.
>>343680293
So you have only changed armor 0? So when you switch to another armor he magically turns into a black guy with a rag? Or did you use armor 0 for all the armors? That's boring as fuck.
>>343680362
I don't play Mage because it's just retarded power level discussion with no actual gameplay.
You know, the thing you're doing right now with your literal Vampire Mage.
Glad to know your Storyteller just gives you access to high level Thaumaturgy without any sort of lore-worthy excuse for knowing it.
>>343679903
Bunch of example Brujah in the Clanbook would be in luxury suits. The Confederate, the Harpy-to-be, etc.
>>343675878
hold the fuck up.
mage who go in the ascension path get deleted and avatars are angels souls. how they fuck did everybody deal meta wise
>>343680615
You're actually right, I did play as Brujah.
I played as the girl though.
Spicy Mexican Vampire > Retarded Nigga Vampire.
>>343680770
That's all fine and dandy, but Bloodlines really does narrow what exactly your character would be, and fancy suit Brujah isn't likely one of them.
>>343680682
Except Tremere have actual gameplay. While Mage players sit around OOC fellating each other with what they could conceivably accomplish with their theoretical power, that's what Tremere are actually doing when they play.
And the fact that you think 2-3 dots in Thaumaturgical paths are "high level thaumaturgy" and that there must be "no lore-worthy excuse" outside bloodbonding just proves how wildly out of your depth you are.
>>343680607
>TPG still adds dumb shit like only allowing widescreen video modes unless you edit a text file, and making your numpad control the in-game camera for no reason
I think you need the resolution patcher to get widescreen modes, but I'm not positive. Those are both superficial changes though, they don't affect gameplay or balance.
Unofficial basic patch has been claimed as only being bug fixes the whole time it's been available, I doubt it's ever going to just be bug fixes and it's dishonest to say that's what it is.
>>343680814
Mages ignore it and pretend like they're not part of the rest of the cWoD. Same way Werewolves deal with being rage angels from the War of Wrath.
>>343681031
Yeah, it's a shame.
Actually, don't one of the optional patches include Backgrounds or the like? I never use them, but I could've sworn something like that was floating around out there.
>>343680635
I switched all of them to their corresponding number. Edgy bums can have nice clothes too.
Though I've just started this playthrough. I'll let you know if the armour change breaks the immersion.
>>343681330
It's the plus one, it just change the inicial stats distribution.
>>343681330
You can enable histories by inputting this command to the console or adding it to the cfg:
vchar_edit_histories "1"
I think they were purposely left out because half of them are useless and the other half make it even easier to become overpowered
>>343681652
If I install plus does it let me pick and choose what to include? I really dig the idea of backgrounds, but don't want the rest of the stuff.
>>343681170
it comes as part of TPG by default, and the game was never meant to be widescreen and looks stupid. some cutscenes have people on the side you can see because it's widescreen, like when nines' saves you.
> claimed as only being bug fixes the whole time it's been available, I doubt it's ever going to just be bug fixes and it's dishonest to say that's what it is.
that's because people on tessmage looked at his scripts, saw they were bigger, and claim he added shit. most of the fixes are just adding timers to allow the scripts/animations to actually play out. changing the location of key items or adding keypads to doors and stuff are percieveably lazy fixes for certain parts of the game though, and have caused unitended glitches specific to the patch
both patches have dishonesty in terms of their patch philosophies, and both wesp and tess have nuthuggers
>>343681946
No, you get some pre-made ones. There's a variety though.
>>343672046
I liked #1
Damn, I kinda wanted to try this game but if it really comes from gog pre-modded I'll pass.
>>343684031
Mods are required to make it run correctly on modern hardware.
>>343684031
It's not modded per se, just bug free and able to play it on modern system. It's just the basic patch not the plus.
>>343658276
>best game ever
>Vampire buggy wrpg shit
nuh uh kid
>>343684031
buying the game supports gog and activision, so don't feel bad for pirating it. the patches it comes with are free anyways
>>343684031
Yeah that's pretty bad how they include a custom patch with the game. It's entirely playable with the last official patch that was released.
I'd recommend using the True Patch Gold for your first time, it only fixes bugs.
Use the unofficial patch for a second playthrough. The basic patch makes minor changes that you may or may not like, and the plus patch is like a mod that can give you more content.
>>343682094
All I know is that one patch is made by an unstable literally who and the other is made by a german university professor(wesp), he's a good guy and I have helped him find a lot of bugs. The regular patch pretty much only contains bug fixes and some balance changes(I told him not to include that in the regular version) and a casting animation for some disciplines. The plus patch includes new stuff, in the latest version he opened up the entire pier after you complete the slasher quest.
>>343684856
>>343684971
So one is an actual patch while the other is a mod whose creator tells everyone its a patch?
>>343685356
>while the other is a mod whose creator tells everyone its a patch?
No, only the plus version of it could be considered a mod, the basic version is a patch with some balance changes to make the game more enjoyable.
>>343684856
>entirely playable
you do have to change your fps settings so you can interact with physics puzzles and so certain npcs actually walk through doorways and shit. but that's only if you have a quality computer
>>343684971
i agree on wesp being a nice guy. tess basically called wesp a nazi for lying about the basic patch vs plus patch as still being an edited version of the game for item stats and locations and for changing npc locations, like fat larry. tess is right from the perspective of "the vanilla-game" but he's a fucking asshole about it. that said, tess's game is also different from 1.2, but marginally less than wesp. for example, after therese and jeanette argue when you go up the elevator for the first time, on 1.2 therese is standing to the right of her desk, of TPG she's standing to the left.
for most people, using the UP is the same as playing official 1.2, except you don't have to change any fps settings.
>>343685729
Tess also stole code from the UP and claimed it as his own, or so I heard.
>see this thread
>first playthrough was UP with all that stuff instead of basic
welp
>>343685907
tess claims wesp stole code from TPG as well
it's drama-infested nuthugger bullshit
>>343686068
Well at least you didn't mod it with some bullshit like the Clan Quest Mod, Final Nights or Antitribu mod.
>>343686068
You did not miss out on shit and got a more complete experience, I usually recommend people to play through it once with the basic patch and then a second time with the plus version for all the extra stuff, but you get in no way a lesser experience playing with the plus patch the first time through, you actually get a superior experience imo.
>>343686465
He might not've missed out on anything, but I feel like having the plus patch on your first playthrough would take away from the game. I find blood heal to be tedious and the custom quests to be pretty low quality with poor use of voice files.
I think you should always play a game for the first time vanilla, and only add mods on repeated playthroughs.
I love how people in this thread claimUP is a mod and True Patch isn't, when the TPG adds stuff into the game that isn't supposed to be there like new textures and weapons. I guess it's supposed to be the True Mod.
>>343687049
>play a game for the first time vanilla
Not even bug fixes patches? Like STALKER with Zone Reclamation Project
>wasted potential: the game
>>343687515
Bug fixes are okay, I'd consider having bugs fixed to still be vanilla since they're not supposed to be there and can be game-breaking like VTMB totally unpatched. If you try to play VTMB without any patch at all, even excluding the official 1.2 patch, the game crashes after you rescue Johansen and you're leaving on the boat.
>>343684521
I, too, only play superior nippon RPGs like my fellow gentlesir here.
Antitribu makes no fucking sense, why would a Tzimisce be in the Camarilla? And why everything is even edgier?
>Society of Leopold
>>343689021
A clan can join any organization, and not all Tzimisce are like Andrei. Some of them can use Vicissitude to become more beautiful.
>>343689789
Could they turn a Nosferatu into a nice looking fella?genuine question
>>343690049
Nosferatu can do that themselves with Obfuscate
>>343690049
Hmm, I thought so at first but the wiki says no. I guess not because the curse comes from Caine who is the most powerful, meaning the effects could only be temporary and considered damage if they were able to effect them at all.
>>343690049
No, the effect of vicissitude is only momentary and they return in a painful manner to their ugly selfs.
>>343689789
But fucking Tzimisce? Is there even a recorded that sided with them at one point?
So /v/ what sister did you save?
>>343689021
Keep in mind that the same basic plot from bloodlines is still there. You're not an ancilla from the old country or whatever. You're a kid from santa monica who got sired by a vampire who was feeling cocky or depressed and suicidal. The Camarilla is the only real game in town, and seeing as how you're sireless your clan doesn't really affect your allegiance.
>>343691242
Both. Always both. Anyone who does anything less is a casual.
>>343691458
>both
how
>>343691446
Oh and I'd like to remind people that the Camarilla executing your sire doesn't mean that he was aligned with them. It just means that he got caught by them in their territory. The Camarilla claims all vampires as members despite the wishes of the vampires in question.
>>343691031
I don't think there are any instances of that, it's pretty unlikely but not entirely impossible.
>>343691242
Therese or both if possible. Jeanette tries to screw you over and manipulate you even more than Therese.
>>343671131
underappreciated post
>>343691683
I forgot how to do it exactly, but this guide says you need both persuasion and seduction at rank 4 and to placate them both.
>>343692092
You don't need seduction at all, just persuasion and suck up to both of them.
>>343686353
>try out Antitribu mod because the Vicissitude looks great
>the Tzimisce player models are wearing emo rave clothes
>male character might as well be wearing a monster energy drink t-shirt
>the female model is a generic slut designed by a horny 13 year old
>the spine is exposed and for some fucking reason has metal things with blinking lights on them
There's Old Clan Tzimisce, though.
>no male model
>the female model is just a recolored fem Ventrue skin with ugly floral pattern clothes
>no vicissitude
fuck that mod.
>>343692562
There's a male OCT in the 1.1 version, atleast according to the changenotes.
What mods do you guys recommend? If there's any
>>343692562
There's a male model for the old clan now and it's actually pretty decent and normal looking. Also if you only played 1.0, 1.1 fixed a fuckton of bugs and broken shit.
>>343693061
Camarilla Edition Final will always be the definitive version of the game for me at least. It's basically the regular game with a pay-for-training system instead of a skillbook system, and a lot of the disciplines brought more in line with the PnP game.
Antitribu's main selling point is the new clans and disciplines are very well done. Everything else about it is meh at best.
The Final Nights is the exact opposite of Antitribu in that the new clans and disciplines are meh, but everything else is top-notch.
>>343693053
>>343693110
Do they has Vicissitude? I just wanna play a Tzimisce that actually HAS Vicissitude and doesn't look like a complete faggot.
>>343694101
Antitribu has vicissitude, and it's pretty neat. You will look like a complete faggot though because the person who did the character models has no taste.
>>343694101
>>343694506
Oh just realize you're
>>343692562
Old Clan Tzimisce doesn't have Vicissitude. It's the main thing distinguishing them from the main clan.
trash fucking game and its retarded cocksucker fanbase
>oh no you need a patch to play, wesp
>oh no wesp is not that good, it adds more bugs that it fixes
>get the GOG version
>no don't get the GOG version
>yeah GOG comes prepatched you cant take wesp out of it
fuck off nigger retards, and take your retarded source engine game with you and shove it up your arses.
>>343694897
I remember you from the threads yesterday, bit late today bud.
>>343692562
They added a male model. Face swapped tremere with shitty clothes.
>>343695120
>i-it must be a single person having troubles with my shitty bug ridden, cancer source engine game!!!!! it's gotta be!!!!!!! vtmb is FLAWLESS!!!!!!!!
N I G G E R
>>343695797
You're obviously one person. It's less believable that two people would waste their lives barging into threads about games they apparently hate.
>>343695797
>vtmb is FLAWLESS!
said literally no one ever but it's not the games fault when you listen to memers. gog version + unofficial patch is really all you need.
>>343696460
>gog version
*pirated gog version
No sense giving money to the devil.
>>343696854
>i need to morally rationalize being a thief
Worst kind of degenerate scum. Steal or don't steal, but don't act like it's the highroad faggot.
>>343697412
>Worst kind of degenerate scum
You say that as if the worst kind of degenerate scum aren't the cretins who don't punctuate properly.
Also,
>stealing
kek.
Also,
>laws dictate morals
kek.
Remember when VtM: Redemption was the new amazing thing in the street?
>>343697831
No, pirates pretending they're doing it for ethical reasons and not that they're poorfags are the worst kind.
>>stealing
>kek
Let me guess, you're another in the long line of retards who conflates theft with larceny and is unaware of the fact that intellectual property and copyright laws have existed for centuries, right?
>laws aren't in part grounded in societal-dictated morals
wew lad.
>>343667091
I want to know more.
>>343658276
whats the gameplay, the battle system like? i keep hearing this gay game but how does it play
>>343698145
I don't care about your opinion, redditor. Being angry and throwing your prejudices at the projections you made about an anonymous party online doesn't make you a better person. Go bother someone else.
>>343698459
ASSBLASTED
S
S
BLASTED
>>343698385
>gay game
how can a game have a sexual preference, explain yourself
>>343696854
>pirated original 3 cd version
gog version includes the unofficial patch, not the vanilla game so you're forced to play with an unrelated developers changes
>>343698282
tessera calls wesp a nazi, wesp has his legion of fanboys harass tessera, they both follow each other around on different forums talking trash about the other's work and calling each other thieves.
>>343658276
Im playing it right now...it´s amazing OP.
btw,98 hours on it,playing as Nosferatus(damn)
>>343698385
It's a fps rpg with an option of being played in third person. There is a big emphasis in the rpg bits, but the combat is in real time.
>>343698714
fps like fallout?
>>343698385
Deus Ex with vampires.
>>343698836
Yes, but no VATs to help you. Combat is clunky overall.
>>343698709
Nosferatu feels a lot less special once you realize that you don't even need to use the sewers. You can walk around on the street without obfuscating and people won't notice a thing unless you physically touch them.
>>343698918
>>343698967
sounds lame.
KILL ALL CAINITES
>>343698709
How do you track the play time without steam
>>343699042
Sounds like it's not for you then. We're not selling it anyway.
>>343699042
You don't play the game for the combat, rather for the story and it's characters.
>>343658276
Well, it wasn't really great until someone unfucked its shit.
>>343699042
the only way that it's lame is that if you played an entirely social character you were fucked at the end of the game because it forces you into combat
>>343660153
Must be a bad feel not being able to play 95% of games available due to your unreasonable standards.
>>343699212
you're one of those visual novel (picture book) fags too?
>>343699212
>playing a video game solely for the story and characters
wrongo friendo
>>343698836
Fucking faggot, what a terrible post.
>>343698607
>tessera calls wesp a nazi, wesp has his legion of fanboys harass tessera, they both follow each other around on different forums talking trash about the other's work and calling each other thieves.
I bet they hatefuck each other occasionally.
>>343699526
lol. you shit yourself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urbvj2wpyR0
I wish there was a VTMB 2 or at least a way to play Pen & Papper VTMB online
Anyone got any tips for running this game on a shit computer with an integrated graphics card. Game runs fine until there's water and rainfall.
>>343700010
If your computer is having trouble running a 12 year old game (albeit this game is fairly buggy, but most of that is taken care of by patches), get a new computer. I too had a toaster until not long ago, and even then I could run this game at max settings.
>>343699739
There's always redemption doing what Neverwinter nights did earlier or you could find someone and play over skype.
>>343698607
I was hoping for something more interesting.
>>343699042
aww geez oh man
>>343700343
Whats that redemption thing? i've seen people porting things from Bloodlines to Redemption and more, the thing is that i miss the sessions with my friends (job is killing me and them too) and now we can barelly get together to make another session.
>>343669370
I wanted to like it too, but the screen tearing no matter what i did turned me off. Had to refund. Made me sad
>>343700564
You can create and play with custom modules in a similar fashion of neverwinter nigths.
>>343700331
well, it's not my computer, I'm house sitting at a friend's house and he said I could use his computer for gaming. Game gets 60fps until rain hits or I'm in a place with a ton of water, then it shoots down to 25.
>>343699739
>or at least a way to play Pen & Papper VTMB online
I've literally done this, with a group of people from /v/. It's called IRC bro.
Whenever I click new game it crashes on me. Does anyone have a solution?
>>343701173How does that work? Never played an rpg before
>>343701631
DM types something, using italics, colored text, and quotation marks to make it clear who's talking, and what's just description. We respond with what we do, using some of the same formatting. DM informs us of what rolls we need to make.
Our ST had some diceroller bots in it to hlep us along, too.
How bout you fuckers stop slacking off and make with the r34
>>343691725
Doesn't he actually mention your sire was a promising member of Camarilla society?
>>343701982
i don't have r34 but i got other stuff
>>343702112
He says "upstanding member of our organization." Which could mean a Camarilla or a polite way of saying an Anarch that hitherto hadn't been too much trouble.
>>343668814
I've never played pen and paper rpgs before, but WoD has always intrigued me.
Do the books have a lot of lore, or is it mostly rules and what not?
