New Andromeda leaks:
>The reason that Bioware refuses to comment or even acknowledge the endings of ME3 relative to how they are involved with Andromeda's story/lore is because they are actually going the Indoctrination route (Youtube "Indoctrination") but with their own twist
>Their twist involves Shepard NOT be indoctrinated by the end of ME3 but actually at the very start of ME2.
>Shepard doesn't actually get rebuilt from Cerberus, the events of ME2/ME3 are actually memory implants made by the Reapers as they try to indoctrinate him
>The beginning of Andromeda essentially has Ryder and the entire Alliance fleet being chased away from the Milky Way Galaxy by the Reapers led by the corrupt Shepard
>There is an N7 operative in pursuit of Ryder and her squad, not much is known about this N7 operative
Wut
Seems legit
>>343643267
I know this is some iluminati-level bullshit, but I would be really okay with retconing both Mass Effecr 2 and 3.
>ME2
>ME3
"LOOOOL JOKES ON YOU XD IT WAS ALL DREAM!"
I don't buy this.
When you write yourself into a corner use the old "and it was all a dream" method
If this is all true bioware writers have hit the bottom of the barreland I didn't think they could get lower
>caring about any of this bullshit when Mass Effect was ruined and the new Mass Effect will be the next big EA joke flop blunder of the century
>>343643651
More like
>guys we are fucking hacks who can't write a proper ending nor can we write this ending into the fourth game, so let's choose a completely retarded retarded fan theory that absolves us of needing to be creative and removes the need for us to have to appease the huge amount of fans who were let down by our shitty writing
>>343644563
This but the indoctrination theory was better than what we got.
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>>343643267
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised
>>343644649
It was just as retarded
>>343643267
On one hand, this is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
On the other, that would mean ME2 and ME3 would be retconned, which is cool.
>>343644010
>GaryColeman.jpg
>retcon the entirety of ME2 & ME3
>make the original ME the only canon one
BASED BIOWARE
>>343643267
The Indoctrination theory is fucking retarded. It assumes Bioware has incredibly competent writers, which they don't, and doesn't provide a real ending to the game.
That implies Bioware is actually admitting the stories in 2 and 3 were shit and are running them back. They're too far up their own asses to ever do that.
But is there co-op?
>>343643267
Only thing that isn't retconned is Jack+Shepard, right? That's still canon?
>>343645323
Liara is the closest thing to a canon romance
Why do I get the feeling that the real story will be even worse? Just like the story made up by /v/ for Dragon Age II before we got it.
>>343645727
They're genuinely just going to ignore the trilogy, maybe make a half-assed codex reference or two
This is bullshit. The entire reason they set the new game in an entirely different galaxy is so they can avoid the clusterfuck ME3 did to the milky way.
>>343643267
Kill yourself. Mass Effect discussions should be banned on /v/, alongside Dragon Age. You cucks destroyed /v/ during that awful ME3 shitstorm.
>>343645839
Does it even matter? Andromeda is like 2 million light years away. Not counting the time it will take to settle the first colonies, it will have passed centuries or thousands of years. By that time every character (minus Asari and Krogan) will be dead and buried.
That's pretty ballsy
>>343646171
>carrying about lightspeed in a world with space ships
>>343646171
No, but people don't like to see their choices rendered meaningless. Besides, I think finding out the fates of the squadmates (really the only thing people seem to get emotionally attached to in the series) is important. Even if they otherwise ignore the ending, just writing a few paragraphs for each major character, with a few lines changing depending on choice, goes a long way to making it feel like choice actually matters, in a series advertising that your choices will have an effect
Sorry for the ramble
>>343643267
If Bioware retcons ME2 and 3, I'm honestly not sure how people will take it. ME3 sucked balls, but 2 wasn't THAT bad and had some really memorable characters. That whole starting sequence with Shepard being sucked into space, running out of Oxygen and falling through reentry was pretty fucking memorable. It'd be a shame if Bioware have written themselves into such a shit story that they have to say, "Nope. Lol. Just a dream."
>>343645839
So long as Neil Ross narrates the codex I won't mind what's in it.
>>343646602
Galaxies are pretty far away even by the standards of typical science-fiction setting. There's a reason most setting are quite content with just one galaxy. Also why should there be a Mass Relay linked directly to Andromeda?
>>343646764
I think that people hated ME3's ending and general half-assedness, but they still care about the universe and characters.
>>343646938
They go into stasis and it takes them a long time to get to Andromeda. That's why in the trailer you see femRyder waking up or something
>>343643267
There's nothing worse than a "it was all just a dream" plotline.
>>343646938
Didn't they capture a Reaper ship or something called Ark? It's clearly not made with the technology of this cycle.
>>343643267
This is so bad it could actually be true, that's how fucked Bioware are now.
>>343647257
It's confirmed to be less than lightspeed.
>>343643267
>The reason that Bioware refuses to comment or even acknowledge the endings of ME3 relative to how they are involved with Andromeda's story/lore is because they are actually going the Indoctrination route (Youtube "Indoctrination") but with their own twist
I would be perfectly okay with this, the indoctrination theory would've been a nice twist.
>>343643651
Indoctrination theory isn't quite like that, it was more like through the events of ME3, Shepard was slowly getting indoctrinated and it's at the end of the game that he finally gets indoctrinated.
So in short, only the ending and perhaps moments before it, were a "Dream" in this case. Honestly, I think that they had indoctrination in mind for the ending at first but scrapped it due to the hack that wrote the current "multicolour" endings, mainly due to how much shit pointed towards it.
>>343647015
I find it hard to believe that Bioware would completly retcon Miranda, Legion, EDI, the Salarian, the Brogan, the generic negro and Buff McSlabmeat. Oh and the shaved dyke.
I guess I have forgotten their names, so they can't be THAT memorable. I remember their stories though.
Oh, hey, Zaeed. He was pimp as fuck. Reconning that shit would be fucking faggotry, so I guess it's not completely out of the question that Bioware would do it.
>>343643267
way to make your decisions even less impactful, it's like a child wrote it.
tbch it was foreshadowed what happens if you give in and take the shortcut using Reaper tech. Personally I have no issues with it it'd explain why they let a single ship with a small crew destroy their most prized race from the last cycle and babby.
>>343647636
Shit wait, missed the OP saying that the leak claims to have Shepard indoctrinated since the start of ME2.
>>343643267
>Implying they're actually *that* creative
don't get your hopes up man
>>343647753
Don't think they were a dream as such merely that since having being revived as a cyberzombie Shepherd had been going through the process, aided by Cerberus who were also compromised.
>>343647636
The indoctrination theory is colossally stupid. It just seems better in comparison to the real ending
>>343647753
I reckon that will piss off the tumblr audience (which Bioware actually listens to) because they can't have muh shakarian romance
>>343643267
Literally the entire reason they're changing galaxies is to avoid explaining the endings of ME3. This is one of the worst fake leaks I have ever seen. You should be ashamed.
Indoctrination theory must be the most pathetic fanmade thing I have ever seen. Had it been true, it would have been even worse than the multicolor ending.
If that is the case they truly are the worst writers in existence.
Hell my stupid theory on how to bypass the mess that is the ending ME3 in ME:A is better and I suck at this sort of thing.
For the record I think they are going with: "we built a magic space ark while we were fighting the Reapers and we don't know what happened after we left and have no way of knowing since we dropped communication for fear of being found."
>I like ME1
>Indoctrination theory is retarded
Pick only 1
Yes, but can I exterminate the locals primitives and colonise their worlds in the name of the Citadel species, oldstyle?
>>343648653
Why? What makes it bad?
>>343648768
>"we built a magic space ark while we were fighting the Reapers and we don't know what happened after we left and have no way of knowing since we dropped communication for fear of being found."
This is what makes most sense. I wouldn't be surprised if they release a DLC about trying to re-establish contact at some point though
>there are people who unironically think indoc theory doesn't make sense
>Mass effect 2 non-canon
>Best guy was all a dream
They wouldn't do that...Would they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9-dLzzQuVM
>>343648964
Oh, look! My choices are not just negated, they never happened in the first place. It was all a dream! How clever and deep!
To be true, there should have been more clues towards memory tampering way before the ending.
>>343648961
No way man, you space migrants.
Racist evil alien Donald Trump is going to build a dyson sphere around his solar system to keep you dirty Milxycans out. Aren't you excited for more of bioware's deep political messages? Now you'll know what it's like for all those poor somalian rapefugees.
Where does this leak come from? Have a link?
>>343649196
It might make some sense. But "It was all a dream" is plain shit. Worse shit than what we got.
>>343648964
Because the entire game was poorly thought out. If just the ending was nonsensical, then I MIGHT be able to believe that it wasn't real
>>343649442
yeah source is his ass
The only hope for Ass Effect was just wiping the slate clean and having a new Saga. Andromeda should be the Star Trek TNG of the series.
Pulling retcons up the ass and still making it about Reapers is a dumb idea. They should be growing out the universe not making things confusing for people who haven't played the games in years now.
Bioware is just incompetent.
>>343648768
I thought that was the most obvious and reasonable hook for why ME:A is even happening.
>>343649392
>It was all a dream!
No one ever said this. Did you even play the games?
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Indoctrination
>Indoctrination is the term used for the "brainwashing" effect the Reapers and their technology have on organic beings. A signal or energy field surrounds the Reaper, which subtly influences the minds of any organic individual in range.
>subtly influences
Where does it say anything about being unconscious?
>>343649392
>To be true, there should have been more clues towards memory tampering way before the ending.
But there was, it was the whole reason why the Indoctrination theory got so popular.
As for "Choices are negated", it depends on when the control finally took over. Considering what happened, lots pointed towards it happening near the end, with events happening prior hinting at the indoctrination.
If they had been smart and actually went with indoctrination, they would've released a patch that continues the story a month or two after release after all the discussions and talk about the endings and indoctrination has reached its peak.
But as we all know, what they planned didn't matter because the lead writer literally locked himself inside a room and wrote the current endings himself.
Mac Walters is working on Andromeda
Mac Walters invalidating ME2 and 3 is like George Lucas invalidating the original Star Wars films
>>343649445
"it was all a dream"
is not what indoc theory says. you just are uneducated.
>>343643267
That is the stupidest thing I have ever read.
>>343643267
I REALLY hope this isn't true.
I want to believe that developers are better than this.
Regardless of how fucking stupid and insane the world is, i have faith in humanity, but THIS fucking tests me.
Say it ain't so.
Looks like BioFriends are getting exactly what they want, a paid retcon.
>>343650218
no he's clearly shitposting
>>343650169
Indoctrination theory is about as brilliant as Jar Jar being the Sith pulling the strings.
Search your feelings, you know it to be satisfying.
>Hint at the Dark Energy threat in ME2.
>Completely ignored in ME3.
It's quite clear that the reason behind the harvesting thing was originally going to be this.
>>343643267
[citation needed]
>>343643267
This leak coming right out of your ass?
>The last two games were just a prank, bro
I might not buy it if this totally legit "I saw it on 4chan" leak ends up being true.
That's fucking beyond stupid.
>>343643267
You think they would do this and piss off every fan who played 2 and 3 and make it their Shpeards was for nothing?
At this point, It'd hope for some out of the ass retconning.
Like Shepard secretly has an exact clone who was sent in ME1 on an intergalactic colonization mission. Which no-one had ever heard of.
>>343651038
Along with his waifu clone
>>343651038
Too late. He already had one.
>>343651250
That was genuinely a well-done DLC
>>343651038
That's unlikely considering the female character is the canon one in Andromeda.
For no reason at all.
>>343651250
Wait what
>>343651250
Are Citadel, Leviathan and Omega good? Never tried any of these.
Yeah more totally true leaks.
As much as ME3 was hated, even Bioware wouldn't be stupid enough to just completely retcon ME2 and 3.
They'll just do it like they said they would, the Andromeda expedition leaves sometime before the fight with the reapers and that's that. Completely ignore ME3.
>>343651315
...What? I thought the point of the female/male thing was that it was interchangeable. What is the god damn point if you make one canon and one not canon.
>>343651359
Citadel is great, there's tons of stuff to do, a bit of humor, and has a lot of character interactions. Leviathan is good. Omega is mediocre
>>343651302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwZ71nnARas
>>343651359
Leviathan had some pretty cool, but short, underwater sequences.
>>343643267
>not much is known about this N7 operative
KAI LENG IS BACK BOYS WHOS EXCITED
>>343651479
Male Shepard is the canon one for the first three games.
It doesn't make much of a difference but yeah having a stated sex be canon is pretty damn stupid for a WRPG with character creation.
>>343651315
Wrong, there are two Ryders. Presumably male and female, brother and sister
>>343651571
>romancing Tali
You get what you deserve
>>343651359
Omega is meh, Leviathan is content that should have been in the game that foreshadows the ending and makes it marginally less of a clusterfuck, Citadel is dumb campy fun fit for an Holiday special episode.
>>343651479
Nobody made anything canon. Stop believing the bullshit spouted here.
>>343651335
An EVIL one.
>>343651359
omega is meh
leviathan is good
citadel is great
>>343651645
There may two characters but the female one was stated to be the "main character".
Feel free to check.
>>343643267
But this is bullshit.
They have cinfirmed that there are going to be a series if books that bridge the gap between ME3's ending and the beginning if Andromeda.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-24-mass-effect-is-getting-four-spin-off-novels-bridging-the-gap-to-andromeda
Who writes this? What the fuck am I even reading
>>343643267
>IT WAS ALL A DREAM
is even worse DESU senpai
>>343647567
>less than lightspeed
Cool so it takes them more than 2.5 million years to reach Andromeda. Which means that if the Indoctrination Theory is true, the Reapers have harvested species in another 50 cycles.
>>343651787
No, I mean that there are two protagonists and both are in every player's game. You probably just pick the male or female one.
http://pastebin.com/BiK2KhPw
>The female Ryder isn't exactly the default face. There is a bit of a twist this time around but they can't say more yet
>There are people that are against retconning ME2 and ME3
There is nothing redeemable about their writing or plot.
>>343651315
>>343651479
Canon is a literal meme. It affects nothing at all.
>>343643875
this may be a shitpost, but its an accurate shitpost
>>343643267
This would be the stupidest twist.
>>343643267
the shitstorm would be amazing to watch
>>343652285
>>343652001
Why?
I think it's a mature way to say 'listen, we fucked up'. Do you really want them to try and make sense of the three colour endings?
>>343652138
Reaper's main plotline became retarded by the second/third game, but the side stories (Krogan, Quarians, Geth) were good.
>>343651359
get leviathan and citadel, you can pass on Omega unless you just like Aria that much and want to see a female turian, but it's still pretty forgettable.
>>343652419
>and want to see a female turian
There's one in Citadel too
>>343649392
The indoctrination theory wasn't that it was all a dream, it was that the end sequence was a dream, that it was a test in Shepherd's mind to see if he'd fall to the same trap that everyone else who fights them does. The theory meant that if you picked destroy, you weren't indoctrinated, which is why you were still alive. All bioware had to do was patch in a continuation of the destroy ending and people wouldn't hate their guts. But fucking nope, they had to fag it up with the star child
>>343652393
>I think it's a mature way to say 'listen, we fucked up'
Maturity is pretending you didn't actually fuck up by taking on a fan theory and saying that theory was your plan all along?
Get fucked, Biocuck.
Who even gives a fuck about the main plot I want to get lost in the small picture.. Detective story on Omega, Arms dealing on Thessia and so forth.
>>343652393
No. I don't. I don't want everything I did in 2 to have been bullshit. I never played 3 but if I had I wouldn't have wanted that to be bullshit either.
>>343652393
No, I expect and want them to completely and utterly ignore them. I want a NEW story in the same world.
>>343643267
Why would anyone buy a Mass Effect game after the pile of shit that was 2 and 3?
>>343652598
It's the least shit of many shit options.
>>343652618
Well that's the hand they were played by terrible writers.
>>343652673
I mean, this would be the most ideal, but Mass effect as a series had part of its charm being the characters. Which would all need to be chucked out in this new game. I imagine they don't want to start it all again.
>>343652393
Just go to another galaxy and never mention the Milky Way ever again. At that point in the timeline, the only character that could be alive is Control Shepard.
>>343643267
You see, Anon, you think you're being funny, you think you're making a joke. However, there is no reason to believe your idiotic tale is even close to as idiotic as what Bioware will dream up.I'm still waiting for a GOTY of ME3 $20 or less. If it ain't comin' I ain't buyin'.
>>343643604
Same, Im surprised how ok with this i am
>>343652798
>Which would all need to be chucked out in this new game. I imagine they don't want to start it all again.
But that's exactly what they're doing. Restarting the whole series with a few familiar faces, in the form of the same races and MAYBE a few returning characters.
They switched the focus from the characters to the world.
>>343652798
>It's the least shit of many shit options.
What, your understanding of what maturity is? >Well that's the hand they were played by terrible writers.
Those same writers have shuffled the deck and are dealing out a new hand, m8.
>>343652971
Never
There still isn't even one for ME2. The DLC is still full priced as well
>>343652770
Because Millennials are trend chasers and have a short attention span. Mass Effect is hot, hot,HOTin the gaming space.garbage
>>343646067
This has happened with TOR, MGSV, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Inquisition, Undertale, the 970 3.5gb fiasco, and now Overwatch, Battlefield 1, and plenty of other games. This board latches onto shit and blows up about it. How it's always been.
>>343653123
I know that, I suppose. It also seems to be the way EA is about all of their franchises. So I will never purchase another EA game.
Oh well.
>>343643875
Dont kid yourself, Mass Effect has too many fanboys to ever let a game flop. I may be a incredibly shitty game, but its gonna be a successful shitty game.
>>343653324
Actually, Inquisition has a version with all the DLC. They'll probably do it for the newer games, but not for the old ones
You fags sure are pathetic, look at you all trying to fit in by hating on ME2 and ME3.
They are good games, the only bad thing is the way they did ME3's ending.
Stop trying so hard to fit in, you all look pathetic.
Is this going to be another AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS"?
>>343651571
This is cringe.
>>343643267
not even Bioware is dumb enough to pull the "it was all a dream" shit and pretend the last 2 games don't exist.
I don't give a shit about the story, just make the environments cool and the levelling system actually good.
>>343646058
bioware is the king of passive aggressive insults to the players, they'll never admit that even though its 100% true
>>343649416
Underrated post, I kekd hard
>>343651817
Well, how do you write a book based on a game with multiple endings?
Honestly, just because it takes place between ME3 and Andromeda doesn't necessarily mean we'll actually know what happened with the Reapers and the battles in Milky Way. Or perhaps they will even reveal the indoctrination through the books.
Now, let's pretend Bioware aren't retards nowadays with their writing and have actually thought about what they're writing for once. Why would Humanity, the Council or whoever's behind the Andromeda project, send someone to explore and find a new home for humanity? If they were sent out prior Reapers attacking earth, would they not have been found out and obliterated? And if Andromeda is sent out after the ME3 ending, why would you need to find a new home for humanity? The reapers are supposedly defeated and there's hardly a lack of other planets to colonise in the milky way.
Now, this is all assuming that the current Bioware writers aren't complete fucking hacks and retards which sadly is more likely than it should be. It still seems weird to me that Ryder is out there to find a new home for humanity. I mean hell, how would they even get out of the galaxy with the Mass effect relays destroyed?
We might as well discuss the potential answers and possibilities here and see just how far off the mark Bioware will make it.
>>343653771
How about you wait and see instead of making shit up about something we know nothing about?
For all we know Andromeda could be set hundreds of years after ME3 and Shepard and the Reapers are long forgotten.
>>343643267
strange
i cant seem to give a fuck
>>343653771
>If they were sent out prior Reapers attacking earth, would they not have been found out and obliterated?
Why? It's probably safe to assume the reapers in dark space are not a gorrillion of them that blanked every inch of space. The chances of a random ship flying towards a non important galaxy to be found are slim to none.
Humanity probably had a shitty secret project in the form of a crappy ship to send some humans to repopulate another galaxy. They send'em off and that's that.
>>343654382
Consider that, if it's true that the ship taking the survivors to Andromeda is only just slower than light, it will take them at least 2,500,000 million years (give or take a few hundred thousand years) to reach Andromeda. This is assuming they leave from the outermost planet of the Milky Way and reach the outermost planet of Andromeda when the story begins.
>>343654680
They'll probably pull some sci-fi shit out of their ass and invent an engine that speeds up the more it travels or someshit and have them get to Andromeda in stasis in about 2000 years.
Or just say the Andromeda galaxy isn't really that far away in the ME universe.
>>343653123
there technically was one for ME2, the Ps3 version had all the DLCs included
>>343653495
ME3 had a lot of problems before the ending. The intro sequence had no build up, was a complete non-sequitur from ME2 unless you played arrival, removed 90% of neutral options and had fewer dialogue choices per coversation. Not to mention that James is just there for the player and we never find out how the hell he and Shepard met or why. The animations for running are pathetic, there are 2D sprites copy+pasted everywhere, the "take back earth" shit is so forced and overdone and just plain uninteresting. Earth had little strategic significance, and the fact that the Council went full retard and never got their shit together or admitted Shepard had been warning them for years was a lack of satisfaction and closure for the player. Cerberus going full retard despite the Illusive Man's previously displayed caution about engaging the Reaper threat is nonsensical. They should have been uneasy allies, not enemies. Legion's character also does a complete 180 from his ME2 characterization. Ashley/Kaiden are still irredeemable pieces of shit. Jack is the only character who grows up by becoming a teacher, being what she would have wanted for her younger self to be taught biotics properly.
ME3 is flat out shit. Don't get me started on weapon sound design or graphical errors. It's multiplayer was the only enjoyable thing in the end.
>>343654680
Didn't you need to discharge your Mass Core or something on planets every few light-years or something? It's probably true, unless they found an alien ship or something.
>>343654881
If I remember correctly that version is still missing the Arrival DLC
>>343654382
>How about you wait and see instead of making shit up about something we know nothing about?
I like having fun. It's a thread about potential "Leaks", if they can even be called that, so discussions about the game's story and shit is inevitable. Not sure why you would expect anything else in this thread to be honest.
>>343654502
I suppose, but >>343654680 does bring up a good point. My guess would be that they would use a wormhole of sort. Very hush hush project, possibly sponsored/done by Cerberus and with very limited use so it's possible only to send a single ship and nothing else after that.
>>343654680
>only just slower than light
Why would they go slower than light?
>>343654680
So now you know exactly how fast the ship they are on is capable of travelling?
Also, what is cryostasis?
>>343654871
>They'll probably pull some sci-fi shit
It is a sci-fi game, if it didn't have sci-fi then it wouldn't be sci-fi.
>>343655096
>I like having fun
You are posting it as though it is a fact when it isn't because no one knows jack shit about the story yet.
>>343653249
I get misty eyed when I think of the first Mass Effect and sometimes think about playing it again but then I remember what comes after that and just get sad. I'm more sad than angry at the wasted potential
>>343655113
>However, the use of mass effect fields creates static electrical charge. In starship drive cores, this charge must be grounded at regular intervals, either by touching a planet surface or interacting with a planet's geomagnetic field, to prevent the electricity discharging into the hull and causing catastrophic damage.
No planets or mass relay in the middle.
>two ryder siblings
Let me guess: the one you don't play as dies.
>>343655312
Pretty sure I shouldn't have to preface every thing I say about the story of an upcoming game that "It's not a fact", especially when I repeatedly mention that I am saying it all under the assumption that the Bioware writers aren't retarded, which is unlikely.
>>343653249
But anon, everyone born after 1985 is a millennial.
>>343655456
Not the ones born after 2000.
>>343655382
>Other sibling is another player who goes on different missions than you
Would be neat but it's Bioware, so that probably wont happen.
>>343643267
That's fucking retarded
If this is the plot Bioware is going for I might not even buy Andromeda, just pirate
Do you think we're gonna get a ton of new species? Or just like 5.
>>343653267
/v/ can predict some failed hypes...
>>343648836
>both are true
>you're a faggot
pick two
>>343652393
>mature way to say 'listen, we fucked up'.
But that's not what it is. If you admit that you have fucked up, you should just reboot the 2d and the 3rd games. You don't just go "yeah, you didn't like it, but hey, let's PRETEND that it never happened.".
>>343643267
>fanboys are still pushing the Indoctrination Theory
I don't know what's more desperate, this or the ones still looking for MGSV's Chapter 3.
>>343656930
I thought they would have dropped it by now, but all it took to remind me of their sorry existence was one thread
>>343651817
Will we get more killing with toothbrushes and eating other people's cereal for an adrenaline rush? This series went to shit long ago so they may as well continue the trend
>>343656930
The vidya equivalent of truther/birthers is the ME indoctrination theory
>>343643267
DO IT FAGGOTS NO BALLS
NO BALLS
>ME2/3 not real
>you never met Grunt
>you never help your bro Garrus to get revenge
>you never met Tali
>you never met Mordin
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343658195
noob wtf you meet Tali in ME1.
>>343647636
Me too. Sadly it wont happen.
>>343643267
Its simple, his indoctrination begun after not destroying that human reaper.
>>343655352
>implying that there will not be some asteroids in between galaxies because none has been detected yet
>>343643267
>There's an n7 operative in pursuit of Ryder and her squad
the N7 operative is the true Ryder. Current Ryder is a clone among several that were sent out to Andromeda galaxy in order to not only more effectively explore different sectors, but get a decent psychological profile on identical copies of people alone in space for extended time periods.
>>343655118
We're talking about the Andromeda crew relative to the characters of the original Mass Effect trilogy you fucking DOLT
Holy shit fucking please read things ty
>>343649196
tfw
>>343648964
Because the only way to escape indoctrination is to
A) Be killed
B) Kill Yourself
C) Get mind raped by the Thorian (which is dead now)
>>343655352
You're forgetting that the reapers have tech to do that.
Sounds overtly fucking terrible, I like it
>the reapers implanted false memories of Shephard butt fucking Garrus and Kaiden
What did they mean by this?
>>343643267
>>The reason that Bioware refuses to comment or even acknowledge the endings of ME3 relative to how they are involved with Andromeda's story/lore is because they are actually going the Indoctrination route (Youtube "Indoctrination") but with their own twist
There is no way that will ever happen. Stopped reading there. 1/10 made me reply.
>>343659329
Each Reaper is the collective consciousness of billions — sometimes trillions — of individuals. Some will be sexual-deviant as fuck and will want to make some o'dat sweet mind porn yo
>>343643267
I dont care, I can accept a stupid start if it fixes that fucking ending.
>>343659535
>Mass Effect trilogy
>starts off amazing, turns into a steaming pile of shit
>Andromeda
>starts off a steaming pile of shit, remains a steaming pile of shit
It's the only logical outcome because Bioware
>>343643267
>>Their twist involves Shepard NOT be indoctrinated by the end of ME3 but actually at the very start of ME2.
Like when the Collectors destroy the Normandy? Or was even that something indoctrinated Shepard dreamed?
Interesting ideas, but most likely not real.
>you never will help your fish waifu to get her planet back
It hurts
It would be hilarious if this was true.
>making a game to fix the fuck ups previously made because of how bad your previous game was
>>343643267
I don't really like this. I remember seeing a theory online somewhere that seems to fit a lot better, that the story for ME2 and ME3 won't be relevant because something about the ship being sent to Andromeda after ME1. The ship was sent from the orders from Shepard, Anderson, or the Council in case the reaper threat couldn't be stopped, that's why all of the species in the galaxy are on it so they can preserve what they have, and that Shepard specifically chose Ryder to lead them
>>343661374
That's true, but apparently the ship is sent during the events of ME3, in case the Crucible couldn't do shit.
I mean, the Council was in pure denial over the Reapers up until ME3.
Bioware can just say that Andromeda trip was kept secret from Shepard. That it was conducted by some secret agency we never heard of. Thats it, or that Shepard was to busy and they didn't want to distract him from the mission. Or that Reapers atacked intergalactic ships and destroyed all of them except one that made it, but no one knew about it or left to live to tell about it.
Bioware don't need to use indoctrination. Why bother - there are thousands biodrones who will eat anything Bioware shit out. Indoctrination or not - they will buy it for the virtual relations with aliens.
>not a single ">her" post
>>343653390
The "too big to fail" scenario can work only for so long. Bioware can't shit out hot garbage forever, even the most rabid fanboys get tired of eating shit.
I hope this will be the game that breaks their back.
>>343643267
BULL
SHIT
>>343662284
Hmm?
femshep was always best shep.
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Everyone kill yourself now please
>>343648530
this
Op do you jerk to all the post here ?
is that the reason for this Bait shit desu ?
>Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 retconned entirely
Way too good to be true.
>>343643267
I would normally say this sounds so dumb that it couldn't happen. But the Bioware made the original ME3 ending and everything so.
>>343643604
I...uh, I agree actually. This is a good idea.
You people are fucking retarded they fucked up the story. There is no hidden meaning or massage. Just lazy shit writing.
>>343662705
You give them too much credit
ya soft anon
>>343662705
You understimate how easy it is to satisfy normies.
They actually liked Fallout 4.
>>343663013
People are just using it as a thread to discuss the franchise and possible ideas you autist. Of course it is fake.
Bioware is so shit now I can believe this.
>>343643267
That's hard to believe, to be honest. They would only upset their fans more, because it would mean that everyone who saved Shepard in the Destroy ending, made him control the Reapers in the Control one or shake everyone's DNA in the Symbiosis one would see their choices mean nothing once again.
Their Shepard isn't alive/a hero/a martyr, but in truth has gone mad and is the villain who forced Ryder and co. to leave their galaxy. Can you imagine the fans' reaction, especially the Tumblrinas obsessed with their ships, to something like this?
It's a VERY risky move and I doubt the current team of Mass Effect has the balls for something like that after the shitstorm of the ME3 ending. They officially said they know the fans weren't happy with that and are doing their best to offer a story and ending they can be satisfied with. With a retcon like that, they would just alienate their fanbase even more and that's the last thing they need and they know it.
That N7 operative is probably some racist guy looking for a way to go back home and refusing to stay in Andromeda.
>>343662705
>I hope this will be the game that breaks their back.
>mfw people said the same exact thing about Inquisition and that game was profitable as fuck and actually sold like hotcakes
Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean it's shit or that other people didn't like it and buy it. Bioware is going nowhere and their games will keep selling well as long as they keep expanding the lore, worlds, and romances.
>>343668317
where dem sales numbers at for DA:I wite boi
>>343644649
It was an attempt by wounded fans to make sense of developer bullshit. It's a product of duress and desperation, not a well developed narrative.
>>343668317
>game was profitable as fuck and actually sold like hotcakes
HAHAHAHAHA the game doesn't even feature on the top 10 npd in the month it was released on FIVE platforms at the same time.
The multiplayer portion was give for free on Origins in a hollow attempt to spice interest up for the game.
It bombed. Hard.
And thank god for that.
>>343643267
Wouldn't be simpler if the Shepard chasing us was that "evil" clone, from the campy dlc?
>>343652393
Maybe if they actually say that then leave the milky way behind completely (ending wise).
>>343655352
me on the left
>>343643267
>ME2 retconned
>Garus is kill
>Grunt is kill
>Jack is still imprisoned
>Legion is kill
>Tali is kill
>Mordin is probably kill
N-No please no.
>>343652138
But I can fuck Garrus in 2! If they retcon ME2, it means I'm still with Kaidan.
>>343643267
>stealing the explanation the fans came up with to cover up their shitty writing
bethesda wants modders to fnish their games for free
bioware wants fans to do their writing for free
erin
>tfw Grunt is retconned
>>343643267
Yeah, no, this is bullshit.
Andromeda literally won't reference events in the previous trilogy. They will be at least 500 odd years away, and not light years, chronological years.
So we will literally never have a canon ending for the trilogy.
>>343222248
>all those negative replies to my post
>completely irrelevant
I win again. You can't scare me anymore.Installing me3 currently.
>>343670586
>>343669969
>In today's earnings report, EA reported a (Non-GAAP) profit of $806 million from net revenue of $4.32 billion for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2015, driven primarily by sales of games like Battlefield Hardline and Dragon Age: Inquisition.
>A few weeks delay in the launch of Dragon Age: Inquisition didn’t hamper the sales of the title. In fact, the time spent on improving the game-play helped the company in giving a better game experience to the players. With more than 200 hours of game-play till date, the game not only won many awards, but was one of the successful releases of the company in the fiscal 2015. The title sold roughly 3.37 million units, as of March 21.
It doesn't sound to me like it bombed.
>>343643267
>>The beginning of Andromeda essentially has Ryder and the entire Alliance fleet being chased away from the Milky Way Galaxy by the Reapers led by the corrupt Shepard
>No Shepard yuo are the reapers
fuckin
K E K
>>343672739
This. So many people falling for this bullshit is laughable. The plot is obvious. The galaxy's races send off an ark assuming the Reapers will win. The new colonists will never know what happened. Its a big red reset button.
>>343669969
they released the sales much time later than usual, that's true, but it sold a lot. the stuff on the bioware store sells a lot too, the fans went crazy for the shirts, accessories and that huge lore book they made just for the game.
>>343670586
lol the fact that they are already working on the next one says it didn't bomb at all, man.
>>343643267
As long as I can fuck a female turian, I'm down to buy Andromeda
>>343670586
>Origins in a hollow attempt to spice interest up for the game.
No, it was given so people would waste money on the MP. And to promote the game, as well.
>>343643604
Retconning ME1 would be fine since the story/setting was a mess in that game since they were still developing the setting, but ME2 and 3 are perfect with the exception of 3's ending.
>>343673593
You can't, she's Aria's lover. You can kiss Aria, though. But only as a female Shepard, I think.
>>343645071
The Indoctrination theory is retarded because it's shit writing.
>>343674297
>Giving gameplay hints for a game that doesn't exist yet
Shepard died 500 years ago by the time Andromeda even starts.
Wait... does his mean the Rachni Queen will finally have a meaningful impact in the game/lore?
Who am I kidding, Of course not.
>>343670586
>Far Cry 4 sold more than DAI
oh my god
>>343674351
You're north retarded if you think the previous trilogy is even going to be referenced beyond "Gee, I wonder what haopeneds to our galaxy all those decades/centuries/millennia ago....?" Depending on how broken and inconsistant they decide to make their FTL.
>Go to Andromeda
>AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS there
How mad would you be?
>>343647015
If femRyder is default does that mean we have to refer to male Ryder as boyrider
>>343674501
The person you're quoting isn't talking about Andromeda.
>>343674769
Rydude.
>>343674743
Isn't that already pretty much confirmed?
>>343674501
I mistaken it for Omega, sorry
>>343674776
The person he was talking to was.
>>343673593
I just don't understand the Andromeda route. In the first 3 games you explored weird space shit and noe you're exploring weird space shit. Nothing in the trailer screamed THIS COULD NOT EXIST IN THE MILKY WAY!
Wss this the only way they could write themselves out of Mass Effect 3's ending?
>>343649416
But Dyson Spheres are a symbol of technological advancement. It would make space trump a good guy
That has got to be the most retarded shit
>>343675018
>Writing their way out
Bingo
That is the whole point of Andromeda.
That's why anyone here believing this nonsense in the OP is full blown retarded.
>>343674297
Nah, both.
>>343673038
>>343673428
>>343673865
Good god, i know that you guys were pathetic but damn this is amazing, it's like a new whole pathetic low.
I'm pretty sure Andromeda will be home to a civilization where people all fuck with each other regardless of genre.
>>343648516
Well it does sound stupid but how else do you explain the catalyst baby being on earth and then in Shepard's dreams before you even got the crucible? I really want to believe that they wanted to put Shepard through at least some indoctrination, not necessarily full blown reaper zombie mode, but indoctrination was supposed to be this terrifyingly powerful weapon the reapers have, so Shepard casually resisting it without even knowing or the reapers not even trying to use it seems silly
>>343675837
It literally doesn't matter.
That trilogy is over.
It will never be returned to.
>>343662705
You underestimate biodrones.
>>343674730
What if reapers only fuck up the milky way but we don't know so we assume they purged the universe? I mean the story dlc dude isn't all-knowing. What if Shepard does get indoctrinated and reapers nuke everything but nobody knows in Andromeda?
>>343646171
I just want closure on the old squadmates. I want to see Shepard buried next to Garrus no homo and his wife Ashley because he didn't do interracial
>>343676184
It won't matter what happened to the milky way.
Even with reaper FTL, Milky way and Andromeda are 500 years apart, 5000 with humanity's fastest FTL
In effect, the Milky Way is no longer relevant. They never have to reference a canon ending. They never have to show what happened. Its done, its finished, its all Andromeda now. Whatever happened, it happened centuries or millennia ago.
>>343652083
But Anon the symbiosis ending is canon. You aren't afraid of race mixing with robots right? Reapers are good now
>>343676415
You won't get it.
>>343643604
And that's why this is more than likely bullshit.
Nothing but people spouting wish fulfillment.
>>343643267
>the events of ME2/ME3 are actually memory implants made by the Reapers as they try to indoctrinate him
>It was all a dream
THIS IS WORSE.
>>343649416
Hahah, funny joke, i loled my butt off!
>>343676814
Relax, its bullshit. Make up whatever fanon you want, as far as Andromeda matters its done.
For anyone who is interested and isn't triggered by this link. This is the actual real leak that was posted a few years ago. The poster is semi-famous and somewhat accurate leaker who has posted multiple surveys of different games.
So far from what little we know, it's been somewhat accurate.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1031314
>>343651417
>Ignore ME3
Yes.
