How do you feel knowing that this company's ONE (1) GAME is dying?
>>343634257
They deserve it because they've systematically reduced the ways in which people can play LoL. In everything from characters builds to the way you join matchmaking.
Any time there's something not even remotely to their liking they will remove it, no matter if tons and tons of people enjoyed said thing.
The game's meta has been stagnant for literally years because they want people to play exactly how they want you to.
>>343634257
I mean it was bound to happen soon or later. Riot mainly needs to understand people are leaving and try to get them back by changing stuff that needs to be changed (i.e. DQ, balancing for the Community not LCS, more bans in matchs, etc.)
>>343634257
get ready for the fighting game.
Is this still about their ideas on solo queue or has something else happened too
>>343634568
>a lot of people have been playing exactly 1 character in the exact same single way for multiple years now
I don't understand how these people still play the game
>>343634257
LoL the MMORPG incomming
>>343634257
Balance is almost on the best state it's ever been, considering the massive reworks they've done for most characters, but it's still broken as fuck. Needs more bans until they get their shit together. At least 1 per player.
>>343634878
Balance implies the entire/most of the roster being picked in tournaments.
This however, does not apply here.
>>343634801
Overwatch has stolen away their playerbase. Ironically TF2 is still doing fine.
Also too much of a focus on selling skins and esports. Can't think why.
>>343634823
A LOT of people still play LoL because their friends still do. They will admit they've been bored with the game for a while now but still play because LoL is a way of socializing for a lot of people.
I hope it's because the ASSFAGGOTS fad is finally starting to fade. It would be about fucking time.
>>343634823
They dont, unless they main people who havent been touched in a couple years, or were buffed and are now fun with their reworks.
For example, Dyrus still plays Darius/Gangplank because they were buffed and GP is now more Skill = Reward, and Singed hasnt been changed in any significant way since he came out besides Fling into Slow becomes a root.
But he and a lot of people are still mad as fuck they removed crit from Ghostblade and Crit from Trinity Force.
do you have a single snackalicious fact to back that up
>>343635186
>TF2 is still doing fine.
There will always be broke 13 year-old PCMR kids, tradefags, and furries who use TF2 as a replacement for Second Life
>>343634723
I think there is a Fan made LoL fighting game actually
>>343634257
Riot is owned by Tencent and Tencent has their hands is just about everything they want. Most importantly they have their hands in things like WoW and XIV.
>>343636078
>Tencent has their hands in XIV
As far as google can tell me only in China, they have no influence on the global game
>>343634568
this.
I played beta and was interested in it.
I never understood why they nerfed that spartan guy's ultimate not to be global. It was pretty much a really telegraphed ultimate and underwhelming one as well.
>>343636263
Tencent has investments all over the gaming industry. It's one of the reasons why Capcom refused to sell to them. They didn't want Tencent bringing Capcom to America or China, to be a subsidiary of another one of their companies.
>>343634257
they've been infested with imbecile suits. The kind that has near maxed charisma but 1 int. They're fucked
>>343634257
Good. Ghostcrawler and many others ruined the fun of support in that game. Even hots does support better.
>>343636263
>they have no influence on the global game
keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better
They were developing a card game when Hearthstone was released, I don't know if they ended up scratching that but it wouldn't surprise me if they released or announced it soonish.
>>343639323
>As far as google can tell me
If you're going to be smug and tell me I'm a retard, at post post a source for Tencent having any influence on FFXIV's development. They're not a Square Enix shareholder, and they're not the company that is publishing FFXIV in China (though the two do sometimes work together). There's literally nothing that suggests any kind of link between FFXIV and Tencent, let alone any kind of influence.
>>343636402
They nerfed all global ults in preparation for that giant magma map that never came out
>>343634257
Amazing. They fucking deserve every lost penny.
Fuck Riot, fuck LoL, fuck all the retards who play it.
>>343634257
Sad because they're about to pollute the FGC with Smash Round 2 with League of Fighters.
>>343634257
lolbabby here
I'm fine with the game dying because I can't climb back to Challenger where I've been for a year and a half so the game has lost all purpose for me
I never really liked that game but the ego gain and getting my dick sucked felt real good
>>343641563
Might be nice for the pot monsters though...
>>343636078
Tencent has nothing to do with WoW or FF14 you fucking idiot.
Is Jhin the best MOBA character ever made?
>>343634257
What happened? I heard nothing about league dying? Did something major happen?
The only reason I'd want LoL to stay alive is so they make more yordles
>>343642232
Dynamic queue fucked the game and tons of middle/high level players are pissed about it and leaving the game, and in general it's also just falling out of the spotlight and starting to lose steam
>>343634257
they allowed premades to ruin my ranked games
i sincerely hope they'll crash and burn asap
>>343634827
I would play the shit out of this.
>>343635057
If every character was frequently picked in tournaments then thay would fuck up non-championship games, since currently the only reason certain characters are picked so much in tournaments are their playstyle or a good mix of raw power and synergy, things like that. If they were to bring every character to a state where they're equally viable in high tournament level play, then the characters not picked often there currently would not just be viable in high level play, but absolutely shit on everything else in 90% of games.
>>343643151
what the fuck are you talking about, are you retarded
>>343634257
They've probably got enough $$$ in the bank to come up with something else if LoL goes kaput.
>>343643151
>Having all the heroes be good is bad because whaargarbhl
>>343643151
I'm not even sure where to start on how ass-backwards your understanding of game balance is.
Any source on it dying? It still gets 400k viewers on twitch regularly
>>343635951
Didn't it get a C&D?
>>343637880
Is there some kind of list of all the video game companies Tencent has invested in?
>ONE (1)
Where the fuck did this meme originate from I see it all the time
>>343637880
I thought japanese laws forbid foreign companies from buying japanese companies
>>343643151
this comment is pants on head retarded
>>343634257
Will Heroes of Newerth finally reign supreme?
>>343634257
Last time I played this game was like early 2014, I vaguely remember leaving when Braum was released.
What has happened since then? I kinda got tired of Riot having an unwieldy amount of characters (around 100) and only like 30 were viable. Also they started going after people who would talk even the remotest amoutn of shit ("gg ez", "wow you're bad", "get some map awareness", etc)
>>343636402
>>343640301
But when Rek'Sai has global ult that's completely okay.
>>343634257
I haven't played LoL in years and I don't keep up with it
How is it dying? I'm glad, but surprised.
>>343642232
>Dynamic queue making the game unplayable in high elo
>Even silver divisions have monstrous queue times
>Korea turning to Overwatch at PCbangs and LoL dropping off
>Viewership for LCS gets lower every day
If qtpie got off Riot's payroll and streamed literally any other game League wouldn't last to the end of that year.
>>343646009
Overwatch drew away all the casuals.
The only place LoL is still more popular is China. Granted China is massive and they can cruise along for years with just that playerbase, but everyone else is moving on.
>>343634827
Nah, that would mean riot expanding into the already non-existant lore after nuking the League of legends and the summoners out of pure lazyness.
>>343646331
That mount blade clone looks really good though
Is Morello still calling the shots and leading the unholy crusade against toxic gameplay?
Is Phreak still autistic with a huge bloated ego?
Has Xypherous left the company out of incompetence?
>>343642370
Fucking this.
Artists on pixiv pump out an endless pile of shota for every one and I don't want that to stop.
Friendly reminder Riot's CEO outed Icefrog's real identity.
Riot is a legit awful company that makes EA look like saints.
>>343634257
>LoL
>dying
lol
>>343646483
That was Lyte, not Morello. Thank god that retarded chink liar is gone for good.
>>343646506
Based Tryandamere
>>343634257
Pretty indifferent.
always played with my friends and if they stop giving a shit, then I have no more reason to play anymore.
I will miss my bae lulu though.
>>343642232
Alot of Streamers and Youtubers leave LoL since Overwatch launched, because they just haven't had any fun with LoL in years.
Basically OW came out at just the right time, where everybody was just waiting for an alternative to League, since its just the same boring stagnant shit for years, and with their biggest way of advertisment on Youtube and Twitch, players just keep leaving.
>league is dying
>>343646549
lol
>>343634568
>>They deserve it because they've systematically reduced the ways in which people can play LoL
LoL right from the start was designed as a Dota with less complexity and possibilites.
Dota always offered way more options to experiment with item and skillbuilds even when LoL was at its "height".
>>343634257
feels good. theyre an awful company completely filled with SJW trash. the only thing that keeps them alive is female streamers popping their boobs out because dota is too hard for them. league is literally a female version of dota, run by "safe space" tumblr activists and male feminists. not even exaggerating.
>>343646787
>one casual turd is killing the other casual turd
Like pottery
>>343646927
dotoddlers, ladies and gentlemen.
>>343646787
so korean PC bangs are represantative for 100% of the playerbase
alright dude, alright.
>>343646946
Get rekt world of Tanks players, Social eating is here to stay
>>343646346
>Overwatch drew away all the casuals.
and im glad now i can play normals with dedicated players
took way too long. too bad it's not true. Overwatch is a heavily shilled fad and league players will come back to league.
>>343634257
I hate Overwatch, and even I can understand why it's popular. League of Legends whoever, it's just shit.
>>343646946
Lol?!
>>343634257
well, it's not like i work there, so i guess i don't really care
>>343634257
6 years of being the most played game in the world
still the biggest esports scene by a mile
still making shit tons of money
I feel they're doing just fine
>>343634257
>yfw they make a LoL shooter like Overwatch
Can't wait for their remake of Rising Thunder.
>>343646506
>Abdul
great, that narrows us down to 500 million people.
>>343635827
>furries
A lot of us went to Overwatch, fyi.
>Fire Ghostcrawler -One of the responsables for ruining WoW-
>Fire Daniel Z. Klein
>Fix Matchmaking
>Stop focusing so much on E-sports and do things for the common player
>Release sexy skins once again
This will get LoL back on track
>>343647385
Ha. Their esports scene is a joke (like Overwatch's). Most of their twitch views are because of markiplier variant memers and gamers girls streaming. Kids love that shit.
But yea, market wise they're doing fine and arent on such a steep decline.
>>343647136
>>343647312
Social eating is something I wish stayed in China and Korea with all their socially awkward losers.
>>343647892
>Fire Ghostcrawler
Fucking this. This so god damn much. I was there when Ghostcrawler fucked up WoW so much. 3.0 update. 3.1 update. Things I wont forget as a Paladin.
He does nothing but fuck up everything he goes to.
>>343647892
This is a Champion Designer at Riot Games
Self-proclaimed Pansexual who lists his pronouns
Let's assume for a moment that League IS slowly dying, and that over the next two years they'll lose 70% of their fanbase until all that's left is a more loyal, hardcore fanbase who will continue to play regardless. Microtransactions will most likely become a more frequent part of the game as a direct result. And because most of the remaining players are hardcore holdouts or whales, they'll gladly pay up.
Sure, the end result is that League will EVENTUALLY bleed out and die. But not before an absurd amount of cash is milked from the dwindling population. Even if League were to suddenly die today due to meme magic, enough money has been made from microtransactions for everyone at Riot to live like kings. All they'd have to do is sell all of the company's assets, including everything from office buildings to the logo and brand name.
I want Riot to die as much as the next guy, but the sad truth is that they're going to walk out of the casino rich regardless of what happens. Making shitty ASSFAGGOTS for autists to stream on Twitch and buy skins for is an insanely profitable venture.
>LoL dies
>all the players move to Battleborn
>>343648237
They've already moved to overwatch
Doesn't Riot have like 1000 employees?
When you have that many people, and don't make spinoffs to keep the brand strong like Blizzard did for Hearthstone, you fucked up. They took forever to do a fighting game and if they fuck it up they fucked it all up
>>343648237
Not even the most deluded Gearbitch could believe that for a moment.
>>343646506
This was proved fake years before this post, I can't remember his last name but Abdul does work at Valve however he has been there for many more years than the lifespan of Dota 2, he was in the L4D2 credits lmao.
>>343648427
>Doesn't Riot have like 1000 employees?
They're up to 2300
Lord knows what the fuck they're doing.
>>343647930
>esports scene is a joke
Are you retarded? Do you think those streamers on twitch represent the esports scene?
The fact that they have several leagues across the world(NA, EU, BR, Turks, Chinks, Korean, Japan) with teams who play each other weekly, like normal fucking sports, who also all get paid by Riot and sponsors shows that their esports scene is ahead of everybody else'.
All the other big games rely on a few big events over the year where as League does weekly competetion followed by a mini worlds halfway through the season and a proper Worlds at the end of it.
There's a reason why big sports name are looking into League of Legends first and why ESPN(I know, they're shit, but they still make mad money) is covering League esports content for over a year now.
>>343648556
I bet half of the employees spend 70% of their day browsing the internet for memes
>>343634568
It's been like this for years and the game wasn't dying. I also don't even know if the game is actually dying because people have been saying it is dying for years when it isn't actually dying. Even if it is dying, it doesn't mean it has no players. ex: World of Warcraft has been dying/losing players for a long time now. Still makes tons of money
>>343645925
Not even remotely the same thing
>>343645362
wat
>>343646139
qtpie isn't part of a team and he's still part of riot's payroll? what the fuck?
>>343648724
>you don't get paid to sit around at your desk shitposting on /v/
why even bother living?
>>343646787
>20% loss in players in South Korea
>LOL IS DYING GUISE!!
>>343648101
>polyamorously engaged to a trans man
I'm getting too old for this shit.
>>343634257
They're going to release some other game now that the shiny paint has fallen off this pile of shit.
>>343648942
Riot gives perks to all of their popular streamers to keep them from streaming other games and guarantee their number one spot on twitch.
>>343646752
>From Riots skinner box to even worse cancer
This is how you can tell video games as a whole are slowly dying.
>>343648101
and?
>>343649129
>Don't know the definition of skinner box
>>343649083
I knew viewbots were a thing but I didn't know it was riot's doing
>>343649083
why are you talking out of your ass?
qtpie makes probably a million a year simply by subscriptions and donations. do you really think riot is paying him to become a billionaire?
>>343635209
Yea the new fad is going to be character based shooters anon
>>343647534
>>343648434
If someone who worked with him personally said his name is Abdul, then it just confirms the 5+ year old rumor about his identity. So everyone already knew his name
>>343649281
Riot's relationship with content creators is well known. The whole fallout with Dunky even was because he didn't get the same treatment other YouTubers got.
>>343634257
can someone explain how its dying? can't they take like millions of players to lose and still make profit?
>>343642485
I'm pretty sure they introduced dynamic queue specifically to entice people to nag their friends to play their game, to fix their stagnant growth.
It's obviously had the reverse effect, where everyone hates it and wants it gone. I suppose, because people don't want to nag their friends to play a game they hate.
>>343649537
Is that all you can come up with? An autist, who makes all sorts of video game videos with a target audience of 14 year olds quit League because Riot didn't pay him enough? Raging piece of trash got banned for a reason.
Provide any kind of proof that popular League twitch streamers are not allowed to stream or endorse other games.
>>343648660
35 out of 123 toons played in the esports scene is a joke. The fanbase (casuals who are switching to overwatch) is a joke.
The tournament events (kids literally going with their parents, shitty production, shitty prizepool even though it's a billion dollar game) are a joke.
Worst of all you have the adults who defend league of legends on forums. They're the biggest jokes of all.
>>343649851
>Raging piece of trash got banned for a reason.
He intentionally got banned for like a week when he decided he was done with the game
>>343649047
How can that be? Is that one man also many men?
>>343649659
Yes, but people here think that because League lost 20% of their Korean PC bang players to Overwatch that League will go bankrupt and their servers are gonna die.
They can just slap 5 summer skins and make more profit off of it than any other game in the market right now. In fact, they are doing that right now.
>>343634568
They butchered any possible way to have fun with stupid builds.
>Remove Innervating Locket
>Remove Force of Nature
>Remove Madred's Bloodrazor
>Remove Atma's Impaler
>Remove Deathfire Grap's powerful nuke and turn it into a silly lol 20% damage increase.
>Every ADC item now have fucking Crits. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
>They made sunfire stacking impossible
>Completely destroy AP builds on heroes that weren't supposed to use AP items.
>Nerf heals to the fucking ground because they were op as fuck(and casually, they nerfed them only after they integrated the Assist upgrade, which make heals also count towards the assist counter/gold)
>At same time they added SELF-SUSTAIN heroes with shields and more crap like that.
And the most cancerous thing ever:>Flash is literally the reason of why this game is shit(they were around to remove it but changed immediatly idea just after Tencent brought them)
>>343647942
You look at the problem the wrong way.
Imagine if Social Eating could consume all of the attention of people that create value for casual game streamers, and thus reduce the network effects growing their playerbases and giving them tons of money.
So instead of watching LoL and making playing LoL a viable way to try to make money, Twitch just becomes filled with tons of attractive women hoovering up loser niceguy money.
>>343648101
>>343649878
League is in 3rd place in the Esports scene and thats only because of the cancer fans and no other competitive game to fill that slot.
If you want a serious esports scene look at CSGO, DOTA, or the once great starcraft 2.
>>343650158
Titanic Hydra > Atma's Impaler
LoL won't never really die at this point.
It's not that i like it, but it's well stablished and won't go anywhere soon.
Overwatch is boring after awhile. Needs serious content in some shape or form. I haven't played 20 hours and i'm already burnt out of it. Can't see people finding this too.
Good
Pendragon and friends are jews who tried to ruin the game that actually made them who they are.
>>343649878
>2 million dollars split 5+ ways after taxes after months of hard work.
No wonder most lolers stream for a living
>>343650317
>serious esports
>DOTA
>>343634257
Pretty good. I'm looking forward to what they have coming out (in a year or two).
>>343650317
>Quake and UT4 have the chance to be real skill based games
Unreal has the lore and base to actually be a glorified gladiator like sport ingame and out of the game
>No one uses this
>Paragon is the new Epic shit
>And... it's shit, unsurprisingly
>>343650317
>If you want a serious esports scene
>look at DOTA
>>343648724
This is probably more true than false.
Riot clearly produces very little work for the amount of people they employ.
They have a handful of champion designers, a larger number of artists that churn out a couple dozen skins a year, they have their NOC people that keep their datacenters running, customer service people to deal with "i need one 1 rp here is my dick pic," and they have their eSports production people. Everyone else at the company has really marginal work to do.
>>343649878
Classic doto fags.
>hurr durr, our tournament had more prize money, we are better
Conviently leaving out that it wasn't Valve who provided that but your players. Convienently leaving out Riot paying each team monthly salaries. Does Valve pay their pro teams monthly?
>shitty production
??
Ever since S3 they filled out Staples, MSG, Allianz Arena. Sangnam Stadium.. etc. What exactly was shitty about that?
On top of that the viewers are unmatched.
>>343647053
lmao l didnt think people would actually shill for Riot. Keep playing your kiddie game famalam
>>343650317
>If you want a serious esports scene look at CSGO, DOTA
>>343650397
What the fuck is Titanic Hydra?
I only brought Atma Impaler when i played tanks yearso ago, it was for me the only to deal damage while remaining a tank,it's not like it was useful to do anyway because fucking assassin could make me explode within a second or two anuyway, not matter how much health/armor i had.
I'm pretty sure this shit (death within a second or two) is still going on.
>>343650317
>serious esports scene
>dota
>>343650520
>>343650639
>>343650768
the samefag is strong with this one.
>>343650687
>Having to pay people to pay your game
This is why epsorts is shit.
Games should be fun and build their own competitive scenes and communities, the international prize pools are mainly paid for by the community buying hats.
League is shit, literally no one would play it if they didn't market the fuck out of it, hell they even shut down the dota fansite to and replaced it with league ads.
>>343646845
That's not really true
LoL always had the ability power scaling over Dota, whoch was a cool idea, and back when all abilities scaled with ability power it opened up alternate builds for a lot of right clickers that completely changed their playstyle, like Tristana, Tryndamere, Yi and Xin.
Removing that and making characters with attack damage scaling on abilities was the beginning of the end for LoL, them reworking old characters to remove all AP scaling from their abilities was the first nail in the coffin.
>>343650864
>What the fuck is Titanic Hydra?
Its the atmas replacement
its atmas + cleave effect with an active that hits for 10% of your max health on your next attack in an AoE
They installed a sjw heavy system that catered to feelings in a COMPETITIVE gamr. Get banned for saying gg in ranked because the enemy team was sad. Banned most older players and showed no respect for their core fans. Design and gameplay lately has been unfun. They can go to hell
>>343635057
he didnt say it was perfectly balanced, he said it was the most balanced its ever been. its a spectrum, not a binary result. things can be well balanced without being perfectly balanced...
>>343650687
>p-p-please play our game srsly! we will pay your hotel and fight ticketz!
How's it feel to be a grown man defending a shitty kid's game. Pic related, your fellow fanbase
>>343650317
>If you want a serious esports scene look at CSGO, DOTA
>>343651027
So the reason esports are shit is because they are trying to emulate the business model of real sports which have been successful for almost a century now? Alright man, you clearly seem to have your head right on your shoulders, no point in argueing about it with you.
>>343651153
Its nowhere near as good as atma was thankfully
>>343651261
They even started trying to infect universities with LoL divisions.
>>343650317
>Serious esports
>Dota
>>343635209
>dota 2 will have a $20+ mill prize poll this year
people are just finally realizing that there is only one true ASSFAGGOT
>>343651348
>>343650917
>>343650768
>>343650639
>>343650520
>Posting picz of ppl laughing will surely show him he's wrong
go away (You)
>>343651261
I'll tell you how it feels once Riot stoops to Volvos level and asks their playerbase to pay for Worlds prize money. Until then have fun being #2.
>>343650687
>Riots pays esports teams aka ecelebs money to play their game
Wow just went I thought lol/esports in general was shit, this is a whole new level of shit. Glad I didn't fall for the esports meme.
>>343650317
>if you want a serious esports scene look at DOTA
>>343651534
Valve just provides greater financial incentives for top talent.
Rito would hoover that money up in skin sales and use it to fund the company's kitchen, to keep their unproductive employees at work for longer hours.
>>343651550
Lmao. Riot is a chinese owned jew company. Worth a billion dollars and wont even give profits made from cosmetics to a prizepool like how dota does.
>>343649129
there is no worse cancer than league or riot, faggot, i dont care how much you hate blizzard or overcucks
>>343651608
>ecelebs
Where are you getting that from? Those are the players who compete within their own region weekly in a league format competition. Why should they not get paid? Do you also complain about NBA or NFL players getting paid?
>>343635196
>that feel when I don't have friends to play with so I never enjoy multiplayer games for long ;_;
>>343651883
yes. Tencent chinajew are saints! why cant people understand
>>343651883
Real sports players don't get paid by the people that invented the game. This shit is basically a stealth form of advertising.
They got really lucky with lols popularity and theyre not master jews like valve. Was always just a matter of time
>>343652163
yea, James Naismith should jump from his grave to pay all the NBA players. You are making perfect sense.
>>343650317
>serious esports scene
>DOTA
KEK MY SIDES!
>>343634568
First post, best post.
Too bad, they keep coming out with cool characters that no one wants to play lol
>>343649878
>DELETE THIS
>>343652275
which riot employee are you, anon
why do you think paying players mcdonald's wages justifies your piss poor prize pools
note those people work >12 hours a day
>>343652275
I'm not suggesting he do that you autistic child. I'm saying it's a scummy idea.
>>343652142
>company paying for 5 people + their coach monthly
>holy shit they are jews
Is something wrong with your reading comprehension?
>>343651652
>>343651502
>>343651348
>>343650917
>>343650768
>>343650639
>>343650520
it really doesn't matter what you aspies think, numbers are numbers.
http://www.esportsearnings.com/players
idc if you think dota is babies first gaem, that its ez cancer, that its normie bait, etc etc. if you want to make the absolute most money with esports, you play dota 2. period.
>tfw TI6 will have a $20+ million prize pool
>>343652538
If you seriously think any of those players is richer than for example, Bjergsen, Doublelift, Faker, Mata, Pawn, qtpie(btw literally OUR guy who doesnt even play comp anymore) then you are seriously mistaken.
>>343634568
>The game's meta has been stagnant for literally years because they want people to play exactly how they want you to.
Except this is completely false and i dont think you even understand what "meta" actually means.
I haven't played since Season 4. What's happened?
>>343650317
>Serious esports
>Dota
>>343652741
Hey anon, tell us how much Riot pays teams each split to divide among their players and support staff.
Tell everyone about the teams that couldn't even pay their rent.
The only way to make money as a LoL player is to shill hardware and key sites.
>>343652741
>'is' instead of 'are'
this isn't about streaming or team salaries, this is about the esport alone, ie how much you can win from pure competition. of the top 50 tournie earning positions, dota 2 comprises 48.
top kek
>>343646374
>The game is named after something that now is supposed to have never existed
>In game mechanics and phrases still adress oyu as "Summoner"
They cant be bothered with doing things right
>>343645362
you can just buy them via a japanese based subsidiary
>>343650317
>If you want a serious esports scene look at CSGO, DOTA
>>343634823
>why do people play csgo still, same weapons, same map, same exact shit
>why do people still play WoW, same endgame farming bullshit
>why do people still play halo use br same shit
>why do people play fighting games still, same shit
>why do peoples till play sports game, literally copy pasta the game
>>343650608
>>343650317
Agreed about UT lore. But they need to focus that shit more. Have cameras around the arena and shit. Bonus points for making them actually functional for spectators.
I'm hopeful for the new Quake. It has heroshit, but no loadouts, and has strafejumps, weapon pickups, etc.
>>343648101
Reminder that Riot pays this English Literature degree four times as much to program (using his English Literature degree) their game for them than their eSports talent receive after teams split their stipend.
>>343652741
you forget anon, League is dying. meanwhile dota 2 isn't going anywhere. TI prize pools are only going to keep getting bigger and there are only going to be more teams and more tournaments as the years go by.
dota 2 is literally the premiere esport. it has the most events with the most money involved of all competitive games. dont matter what you like or dont like, its only going to keep going.
>>343644985
i never saw it even reach 300k in the past month, today they had 63k viewers
>>343653553
They're not the same, and the problem is that they only play 1 champion all fucking day long, and each champion has like 2 builds that don't get you banned. The game has so little complexity that the only kind of complexity comes from mastering different characters. It's more like playing Halo and always sitting in the exact same corner on the exact same map waiting for people to come by, and never moving from that corner.
>>343653796
forreal, I thought they get like 300k weekly, Overwatch is just that good? Everyone I know that plays LoL has a pos laptop so they can't run ow
I follow both LoL and Dota2 esports but I think dota is more comfy because the players and casters arent Valve employees so it doesnt feel so scripted and strict. League feels more like a circus show.
I think this season changing how the regular season works (all the teams play one 3 game series for the day) is killing the viewership so much. Nobody has fucking time to watch LoL games from 2-9pm and there is more wait in between matches, in addition to the commentators losing energy cause of so many games.
I think one of the things people liked about LoL compared to normal sports is that you could spend an entire afternoon of about 4 hours and watch every single one of the teams play. Now it takes 3 hours to watch 2 teams play
>>343634257
They deserve it for making the game stupidly frustrating to get into and putting everything from champions to passive skills (runes) behind either a very heavy grinding or a paywall that doesnt even have the option to buy all champs.
>increasingly nervous fat neckbeard is positive that LOL is finally dying for the 100th time in the past 5 years
>>343654284
Runes and masteries are complete shit. There is literally no reason for them to ecist
>>343654595
Runes exist to sell rune pages.
They also hypothetically let you ameliorate hard counters by letting you counter picks with raw stats.
>>343646374
>>343653070
someone explain
what's the "lore" now?
>>343654595
Correct
>>343654768
>game is called league of legends
>the league in question which housed the legends was retconned out of existence
>>343654595
t.dotoddler
>Edit out graves cigar
>Explanation is because he vapes now
Its hard to see how anyone defends Riot.
They removed ap yi so they deserve it
I don't care about anything else but I will never be not mad about this
It was one of the most fun champion to play but shitters cried too much and they removed it
wish I could get paid to shill for a dying commie game on /v/
>>343646787
DELET DIS
>hate riot
>hate league
>play everyday
Help me
>>343655131
I hate league as much as anyone else here but we all know that NA has never been relevant so those view counts don't really matter
>company makes shitty new champs, which recycle mostly old kits.
>pander to SJW'S, hire even them for their company
>alienating their fanbase
>boring design
people do really wonder why Riot is killing their own game?
skins are $7 each, takes 20 hours to grind a 4800 ip champ. $60 doesn't give you jackshit
>>343655004
>nothing but +stats behind a massive grindwall is good
get riots cock out of your ass
>>343655206
download doturd
>>343655313
>takes 20 hours to grind a 4800 ip champ
That's not that bad, an entirely new playstyle unlocked in less than a week
>>343655206
I was there for years
I finally broke free when they ruined malzahar
You can do it anon, you just need to wait for that update that ends up being the last straw for you
>>343655430
>lolbab chimps
>"new playstyle"
TOP
KEK
>>343655430
b8. . .
>>343655430
>new playstyle
>implying not every champ has the same skillset
>q: main offensive spell
>w: utility spell
>e: secondary offensive/utility spell
>r: ultimate
This applies to about every champion
>>343655430
>not that bad zozzle
sorry we're not 13 again playing LoL all day like you. Shoutouts to having a job
>>343655430
>new playstyle
Heh
>>343655430
God I don't fucking understand anymore. First you fags told me that paying for champs isn't pay2win because every champion is literally the same, now you're fucking telling me that they're unique?
God, why do I even bother shoving my autism in LoL threads, this game is just way too autistic even for me.
You know reading this thread made me think of something. I know some people call him IceFraud, but I feel like, compared to many other 'competitive' games, much less people complain about Dota's balance. What does he do right?
>>343655636
And? There are many types of offensive spells and utility spells.
>>343655687
If you have a job, then you shouldn't mind spending $2000 to buy the heroes.
>>343655553
>grind 20 hours for gapcloser, steroid, skillshot and stun
>wow new playstyle unlocked
lol players are retards
>>343654768
THey realeased events a while ago explaining the new lore for the icy regions where in a 3 party conflict and later on one that talked about the lore of the sea/pirate characters including TF and graves somewhere in between. Everything else is none existant, not even the league or the summoners.
Frannkly the event were good and made you want to know more about the lore and the new game modes were really fun and made the game feel overall more alive. Then they scrapped all the modes and returned to a forced summoners rift who as of now has no reason to exist and the champs has nothing to do there.
tl;dr
like 2 thirds of the lore are mising/dont exist because riot doesnt give a fuck
>>343655687
>he doesn't have 20 hours a week for video games
Fucking wage slaves
>>343655849
http://archive.is/6B2WH
>>343647892
MonteCristo is one of the few based people involved with League
>>343643151
is this guy mentally ill? Dota had like a 95% pick rate in their last tournament
>>343655430
>cookie cutter LoL characters
>"new playstyle"
>playing a game 20 hours a week to unlock <1% of its content is normal
LoLbabbies, ladies and gentlemen
why not just play dota instead. i mean valve is pretty bad but riot are worse than EA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAlHVa2Cv0s
>league tournaments will never have this level of production value
I feel kind of sad for them
>>343656371
It's too hard and my 17 year old friends play league :)
>>343655347
They like being fucked by Riot. You can find literally thousands of people defending Riot's jew tactics and they will happily tell you it's the best way for a "Free" to play game.
>>343656045
This is really sad
>>343656394
lmao wtf? i didnt know dota 2 was actually this garbage
>>343656394
>armpit camera
Fund it
I started league late S2 and loved. Played it all the time with my mates. I tried out dota and absolutely hated how the game felt. However, I was intrigued by all the crazy gamebreaking spells that I saw. Slowly I started playing more and more dota while continuing to play league. At some point I felt dota simply offered me more options and playstyles compared to league. I still liked the game but I felt like I had learned all I could in that game and there was not that much challenge and excitement left. I could buy a new champ and do well even on the first try. All that was left was to figure out which champs and items were good in each patch. Nowadays I hardly play league at all. On the other hand I have nearly 4000 hours in dota and I still haven't learned everything. I still cant play Invoker or Meepo for shit. I still cant micro illusion heroes like Naga effectively. I still miss my neutral stack timer sometimes. My last hitting and general farming efficiency could use some work. And it's fun trying to think which items I need to build in each game based on the enemy team and the hero I have, something which I feel is very limited in league.
Anyone here play Smite? I think it's more fun even though I suck at it. If only queues weren't 3 minutes long.
>>343656394
courier cam? rune cam? spawn cam? dark armies? you cant even see wtf is going in the "game" dota is a joke
>>343635209
I never could get into LoL because of the fucking Runescape camera + movement + combat
>>343655740
brand, ezreal, taliyah, lux, morgana, kog'maw, caitlyn, galio, sivir, heimer, mundo, olaf, katarina, veigar, tf, ryze, nocturne, lissandra, karma, lee sin, anivia, ahri, aatrox, braum, ekko, gnar, kennen, nida, urgot, varus, xerath, zed, ziggs
All have the same Q, a basic spell that hurls forward in a line as a skillshot, slightly different for each champ
I could do this for the second half of pool except they would be point and click spellls
>>343656337
>playing a game 20 hours a week to unlock <1% of its content is normal
>implying there is something wrong with the game because it has >2000 hours of content
>>343656783
>combat like runescape
anyone who enjoyed runescape pvp or thinks it's like LoL is a retard
>>343654768
>someone explain
>what's the "lore" now?
There is none, beyond some individual character backstories and world regions. There's no explanation as to what or where summoner's rift is, what the structures and minions are, why anyone's fighting to begin with, how you're controlling them, what summoner spells are, etc. All things that had a perfectly good explanation before they threw it away for unknown reasons.
Summoners don't exist in the lore and more, and the fucking league of legends doesn't exist in the lore anymore. They retconned the thing the game is named after out of the game.
I wish I was joking, but this is all true
>>343656769
I play it with friends on ps4. Its an alright change of pace from dota but no way I can take that game seriously.
>>343656394
Well Riot pays for their own tournament set ups and what have you, Dota just got a bunch of money from the community to do it on top of the money they already had so they were able to afford it by being jews.
>>343634257
show me statistics proofing it's dying
>>343655783
>after four days of grinding with my boy Garen, 12 hour sessions each day, I finally have enough ip to buy a new champion
>fill out my survey explaining that i recognize my privilege to be able to purchase champions after such a short, and highly enjoyable grind
>scroll through the 130+ champions in the shop, think there must be some mistake because they all seem to be some big mclargehuge in armor, big titty monster, or stronk woman don't need no man
>decide to buy Darius
>turns out he's basically just Garen
>mfw wasted 400 hours to grind out the exact champion i already have
>>343656497
>my 17 year old friends play league
wow u hav 17 year old friends good work kiddo
keep them off this board
>>343656841
>take literally any game ever, no matter little content
>lock all of whatever content it has behind a 2000 hour grind
>WOW LOOK AT THIS GAME IT HAS 2000 HOURS OF CONTENT
>>343650158
>>Remove Atma's Impaler
Literal garbage.
>>Remove Deathfire Grap's powerful nuke and turn it into a silly lol 20% damage increase.
Literally promoting "use this then hit all your buttons" gameplay. Dumping everything in two seconds and hoping you win isn't skill and never has been.
>Hate on LoL
>G-go back to dota!
Everytime
DOTA2 is the better moba
Prove me wrong
people who defend LoL are like the DSPs of the argumentative realm
>>343657303
I can't because it's not a moba
>>343634257
I played since beta up to s3. Champions reworks and forcing meta killed the game for me
>>343657252
Atma's was amazing. Even after it's nerfs it was a still a very strong choice on certain champs like Garen and AD Eve.
Deathfire could never exist properly in LoL because carries are just glass canons due to Riot's horribly designed items.
buying the champions bundle for 20 champions is $40, and it's all the first champions that came with the game, good luck spending 2000 hours grinding or paying $200 for 20 more champions
