What went so horribly wrong?
>early access
>>343628590
Tripwire. Look at the picture you posted. They are using "new female character" as a selling point. They think that a new female skin is JUST as important as a new perk.
>>343628590
The company was so autistic that they spent time changing the steam icon for every "free content pack"
>the gameplay is solid as is
>add an MMO tier resistance system that makes no fucking sense
>Hans is now a fucking bullet sponge with the new shield mechanic that you might as well not try to break and just let him heal
>nerf dosh gain into nothing on HoE and Sui
>but don't worry guise we also have this NEW FEMALE CHARACTER
>she's boring as fuck despite her entire character revolving around her being nothing like all her boring coworkers
Here's an idea, how about you make a character actually interesting and fun instead of just insisting that she's interesting and fun. And don't change the game based on Normal and Hard difficulties, oh wait, THAT'S ALL THEY PLAY THEIR OWN FUCKING GAME ON FOR PLAYTESTING!
Also can we just fuck Rae off and get Mrs. Foster, Ash Harding, and Rachel Clamely instead?
SJWs
>>343630415
>We could have got Rachel or Mrs. Foster back
>Instead we got Rae
>Game is still in early access
The game is fine. Tripwire however...
>>343630415
Wow, now I can play as an overweight tattoo ridden feminist-lookalike.
T-thanks, Tripwire.
>>343630642
It was meant to be out last year, by that time they didn't even have half the content out. They still don't have all the content out and they're panicking, the free weekend was to keep the reviews from going down into negative from their retarded resistance system that made Crawlers resistant to fire and Stalkers able to take a DBS shot point blank and be fine.
Also the new Patriarch looks fucking awful and I'm still mad.
>>343628590
>loved first game
>played it religiously
>part 2 release
>$30??
>totally forget about it
>>343628590
>new female character
>not just saying new character
guys, is it getting worse?
>>343631118
Yep most of the people who actually worked on KF1 are gone and most of the new staff is busy sucking John Gibson's cock.
Munk is pretty okay though, he's listening to community feedback and responding better than Yoshiro whose entire fucking job is to do that.
>>343631118
>is it getting worse?
why is that even a question
>>343628590
Tripwire went full sjw awhile ago. You really shouldn't buy anything they a make anymore.
>>343629550
You used to not be able to break his shield at all, and had to let him grab you.
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS RESISTANCE SYSTEM IN THE GAME
SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS SHIT
>>343633186
>mfw
I'll going to see if I can return KF right now
>>343631325
Are the KF1 team really gone?
That explains so much
>>343634281
How many days is it okay to request a refund?
>>343633186
what about RO Vietnam?
>>343628590
Early access and the game having no character like the first game.
>>343634547
not enough
2 hours over 2 weeks after your purchases i believe
also /kfg/ is leaking
>>343634818
Cute stalker butts
>>343631325
Where have the KF1 team gone off to?
>>343635093
dead stalker butts
>>343631325
>>343635101
I'd like to know this too. Please respond.
i read that the voice commands aren't british anymore.
that was part of the charm in the first one.
>>343635475
depends on the character you play
there are like 6 or so british voice commands available. A bunch of the other characters are european or american or whatever
>okay so we'll add a resistance system the likes of warcraft 3
>and we'll make sure there's like 3 guns for every class
>now next up lets not add any new content or perks for a few years
>okay and so to top it all off lets make zeds teleport around you like a bunch of fucking loonies
>also we've automated the banter so people don't have to go trough the pain of pressing v > 5 > 1
There was nothing wrong with the first game.
>>343630415
> Rockabilly punk
> SJW
What?
>>343630415
Remember how Tripwire said women in skimpy or unpractical clothing didn't fit with their vision for the game?
>pre dosh nerf a few days ago
Hey, they're listening! They fixed a bunch of the fucked up resistences. maybe this game is salvagabl-
>dosh nerf
>>343637582
Her bio is full of special snowflake "Oh yeah, I'm different than other people. Other people are boring" shit
>>343628590
sjw devs
>>343635101
>>343635398
Killing Floor 1 credits:
>Game Design
John Gibson - obviously still there
Alan Wilson - still there
William T. Munk II - still there
David Hensley - still there
>Level Design
Adam Hatch - still there
Keith Balding - still there
Damien Laurent - left for Arkane Studios
That guy is bullshitting you, anons.
>>343642392
Alright then
>>343641574
This is just what happens when you leave your basement, achieve some success and start having friends who are also successful but also women. Suddenly they're not fantasy creatures like dragons or some shit anymore. You realize they're kinda sorta human and your whole outlook takes on a new guilty sort of protection. Kind of like when you make your first Black friend.
>Get enough dosh for the best gun in your class by the 5th wave
>or
>Get enough dosh for the 2nd and 3rd best guns in your class by the 5th wave
>Retarded resistance system
>One of their selling points was that there wouldn't be any more holding out in a single area/room the entire game
>There is a ton of holding out in a single area/room the entire game
>Team Fortress 2 microtransactions
>Mr. Foster classic skin is paid DLC
>"Female Character" is a selling point for some reason
>Literally a bitch going out in a fucking zombie apocalypse with a practically unscathed dress
why is KF2 even a game
>>343643120
https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=define:greed
>>343639987
That makes her a special snowflake, not an SJW?
>>343641574
>not being 12 means you're an sjw
>>343642878
Stop trying to normalize your faggotry. That post is what happens when you're a beta male who gets so emasculated that you feel like you have to white-knight virtual characters, and care about "objectification" of objects that don't exist. Even most film directors and people involved in other induustries aren't this pathetic when it comes to actual humans, let alone when talking about pixels on a screen.
>>343641574
>being a mature adult, and understanding a person isn't a sex object makes you a sjw
Goobergate, stop.
>>343644218
>>343643350
>anyone who's not a castrated male feminist is not an adult
>g-grow up
Tumblr is that way, fatties.
>>343644606
Wrong image.
>They started to censor any criticism they received on their forums
>Got caught working on a completely different game while KF2 is still Early Access.
If you have to censor any negative feedback, you're a shit developer. Also early access is a fucking joke. Games shouldn't be allowed to sit in a half finished puddle of shit for years. There should be a time period before it gets kicked out of ea.
Increase the weight of the Railgun and it will be alright.
I'm sure they're gonna do that after they release the other 2 perks in 2017 but as of now, they're relying on this retarded easy mode system so that it's manageable to pass a Suicidal with 6 players.
Not really in TWI's favour but from my standpoint, the company's EA attempts are for testing the bunch. The game is at this petty state because not everything has been implemented yet, nor has it been balanced.
The recent Demo remaster is alright but quite honestly, every class' role(even the fucking medic's) is rejected, as a 6-man party can literally pass HoE. Berserker is useless, support is petty, i don't even see the point in people switching to Commando or Slinger except for their cloak reveal and Leg Shot, which are, nowadays, useless and Firebug has been rendered useless with the enemy damage resistance.
I guess it's fun to play on Normal/Hard from time to time, shooting walking hug bunnies but as for people that expect a challenge, it is just a waste of time and money.
>>343634547
Btw, it's EA, so you can refund your money at any time, despite the hours you've put in it. It's a policy. Got 400+ hours here and the option of refund is plausible for me.
>>343646729
6-man SHARPSHOOTER party, whoops.
>>343646729
>Increase the weight of the Railgun
It's 10.
As it is, if you increased it you'd be able to only have the railgun, which holds 21 shots.
Which means you couldn't have the lever action.
>>343646729
>dual barrel at point blank range against siren doesn't get a kill on support
>explosion direct hits dont either
why even bother playing KF2 at that point
>>343646871
Exactly the point of it. In KF1 with the .50 cal you only had a pistol as a sidearm.
The LAR is pretty strong as it is.
Call of Duty zombie mode is better and it comes with Multiplayer and a shitty singleplayer.
>>343630415
That's rockabilly, you dork.
>>343630606
Even though she looked like a frog, I really liked rachel clamely.
She was just so story relevant, and the idea of someone blood related to pat fighting against him was the greatest thing.
>>343630415
At least the Voice actress did a decent job.
(But a spotless dress in the middle of an apocalypse are you shitting me)
Not only do I regret buying this, I regret it coming out and taking players away from the original killing floor.
I just want to give both barrels to these bastards while dropping one liners in cockney english accents and even they fucked that up.
>>343647635
fuck, i miss the banter choices in the Talk menu
>>343647617
They could have kept the dress as a form of character style, if they gave her hockey/american football pads or something.
TAUNT PLAYERS
>>343646975
Going with the railgun being that heavy would mean you'd have to sit on your ass against smaller zeds.
Which means not enough income to pay for ammo or armor.
>>343646983
CoD zombies went to shit after black ops 1 and will forever be poisoned by the CoD community and the fact that it's treated as a mini-game and not its own.
Once the devs get off their ass and finish the important things like listen server support, workshop support,and modding tools, pretty much anything will be possible in KF2, even a CoD zombies ripoff mode where people ported the guns and chmodels.
>>343628590
Tripwire is a perfect example of what is wrong with PC gaming and why consoles will always be a necessity since for the most part, you can't get away with a lot of the shit that's happening because of Valve's bullshit. (It is leaking though)
>Early Access aka selling an alpha build to people
>Micro transactions for an alpha build game
>Micro transactions for a non F2P game
>Selling DLC for said alpha build
>Selling community made content for said alpha build
>Trying to make it sound like completing the game is a service to players with 'free content packs'
And that's just from a technical standpoint and nothing about the game itself.
>>343647836
Agreed,
with some tattered cloth + knee pads and the like i'd totally accept it.
Also has anyone seen how awkward she is when she crouches?
>>343628590
>NEW FEMALE CHARACTER
This is just more proof of how dead vidya gaems are.
Why not just say "NEW CHARACTER". There is no purpose to saying FEMALE there.
If it were a male character it would just say new character.
They're not getting my money, fucking retard devs
>>343642878
>Not still shitting on niggers if you also have a black friend.
I'm in a group with black people in it and regularly use the word nigger with them. It's just I use racial slurs for every other group and use it in a non sequiter fashion.I got this guys, I got this- Sixty niggers!
>>343647635
At least they didn't fuck up the KF servers like they did the RO servers right before they released the sequel.
>Releasing multiple early access games at the same time
It's sad to think /v/ used to hype Tripwire trash
>>343643120
>Mr. Foster classic skin is paid DLC
well at least it aint KF1
>>343647908
That's why you'd rely on a Slinger weapon(in Kf1 it was a Sharpshooter wepaon). A deagle or Colt are enough to survive. You're just gonna trust your team for the bigger crowds and you'll pick off the numeric ones.
>>343648406
I really hate using off perk weapons.
Especially when it's for a perk I've already leveled.
>>343648406
>>343647908
The point of a sharpshooter is to take out the big 'ones. Not the fucking crowds of zeds. It's a co-op game, after all
It's fun to play and was fun for a long time now.
If anything is wrong, it's the irrational amount of whining from "fanbase".
But I just play the game as a shooting range mindless fun, maybe people expected something more, I don't know.
where's Ash? I don't what those worthless girls they put in
>>343648670
A female with actual combat training is not empowering enough. We need more punk girls who go to nightclubs.
>>343642392
It sucks when you realize you cant pin kf2s shitty level design on one guy leaving and have to accept the fact that this is just the evolution of what the devs believe is good.
Farm is an insult to the name, and how they managed to make a fuckin forest map feel so incredibly cramped I'll never know.
>>343648621
If memory serves, in KF1 you could have a crossbow and m14.
and the crossbow was perfectly serviceable for taking down large zeds. I mean it's been a few years but wasn't it a top tier for its perk for a while?
>early access done right
>>343648853
They later added the .50 cal
Which was there just for fun because it did just a tiny bit more damage than the x-bow(actually, help me on the damage differences here)
Point being, it was a weapon that didn't receive much thought when being implemented. One day it was just there. No warnings whatsoever. And it wasn't that big of a game changer.
Now, when it's a whole new game, things need to be thought over.
>>343628590
>versus mode
Yeah this is EXACTLY what KF2 needed. Also the asinine resistance patch doesnt hurt while at it.
Early Access done right amirite? Goddamn it this is the only game I'd like to refund. I got played like a fiddle
>>343649204
crossbow can kill a scrake in 2 headshots, but the first headshot will stun it so it's easy. m99 will kill it in one.
crossbow will kill a fleshpound in 4 headshots, which is stressful but doable with practice. m99 will kill it in 2.
the main issue is that each bullet for the m99 costs £250. not really worth using it on anything but the patriarch.
Whats so bad about this resistances system everyone talks about?
I hadn't even noticed a change. As a Medic, I get along just fine with a handgun the first 2 waves, an M14 and a Medic Assault Rifle. Everything feels like it dies exactly the same from a year ago, except the enemies with swords for arms as they take 3-4 handgun headshots now
>>343628590
>sequel
>less weapons
>less maps
>less characters
>same enemies
>microtransactions
>pandering to a political group to cower from the fact that the game has had barely any progress for almost a year
>>343650154
It was there for a week when Sharpshooter launched. Stalkers kept on walking when decapitated, crawlers took too much munition for body shots, gorefasts took 4 headshots, Bash system was useless as they didn't get staggered, not even for a 0.5 second. It was in favour for the Sharpshooter, really.
But after TWI said that they were "away" and the reason why they launched such an unbalanced update was because it wasn't them(hold on, searching for the post), 80% of the stuff got reverted back, except the Gorefast and some other enemies.
Side note here, wtf happened to their forum site?
>>343650154
They added a bunch of arbitrary damage resistances with the sharpshooter update and reverted most of them a few days after it came out. They're still there, but not nearly as bad as before. If you played support before and after the SS patch, you'd notice how little you gib monsters compared to before as well. Possibly because not enough damage, but not sure.
When the resistances were first added, a stalker would be able to tank up 2 double barrel shots at point blank while dying in like 3 bullets from the commando's AK.
>>343650258
>>less weapons
>>less maps
>>less characters
>>same enemies
All of these make sense since the first game was updated over time. Also there's more enemies than KF1 as well, even if just a few.
>>343651217
*1 bullet from the AK
>>343650154
yeah, they got rid of them, pretty much
>>343650258
there were fewer characters total but at least there are more than two voiceactors
>>343651181
It's getting the ripwire treatment their logo got because... reasons left for you to fill in.
>>343651715
Those two voice actors were iconic, fuk oyu.
I can still hear them in my head
>>343652657
And they're still in KF2
>>343652805
And they were all you needed
>>343628590
>Instead of adding a character using an anti-hazard suit with a cleaning maniac disorder where everything must be CLEAN
>Instead of adding a a nurse wearing a nurse (the actual one, not the porn version) outfit who has seen lots of shit and just want to finish this shit
>Instead of adding a character who know weapons'n' shit and wear something like a SWAT suit or similar
>Instead of adding a literally madman who wants to burns everything and has burnt/tattered clothes
>They added a australian gurl wearing a dress that t's completely impratical and speak about rockability
Do not let me trigger on the gameplay, some choices are really fucking sad just by thinking them.
>>343653102
Knowing Tripwire, if they added a doctor character, it would probably be some guy with the typical crazy german accent too.
>>343641574
Apart from the second sentence, the rest makes sense.
>>343653342
We already have two german characters, it seems too much even for them.
>>343654309
two german characters?
who's the second?
>>343654443
Hans, of course.
The guy just spout german accents from every word he said.
>>343654640
oh right, i forgot about the non-playable characters
>>343630415
Isn't it ironic that she looks like the "proud bold feminist" that tumblr tards masturbate over, yet her dialogue is incredibly woman-stereotype and moronic?
>tfw forcing myself to level my sharpshooter on perktraining this weekend
>tfw have no intention of actually playing the game until its improved
>>343646729
Are you sure about the refund? I cannot find anything online supporting your claim, the best I can find is that it's the same as regular refunds.
>>343638412
Yes, and?
>>343638412
>this is slutty
>>>/pol/
>>343655330
its unpractical
>heels
>HEELS
not even once
>29 people playing PVP right now
lmao
>>343656461
its too broken to enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcHtj7TIhyI
>>343634818
What does /kfg/ even do anymore
Do they spend their time shitting on the game and the dev like the starbound general used to?
>>343631358
>not writing in Mark Thruss for President
>>343657339
https://youtu.be/2T4d5FPnI6U
they talk shit about kf2 and then shoot zombobos in kf1 or continue playing kf2 and/or make videos/discussions about the issues the game has compared to the first one
on the bright side it's one of the many generals that isn't 100% shit
>>343657786
>tfw 9mm is fucking worthless in KF2
>they make it even worse with the resistance garbage
>in fact they already give you a tier 1 gun no matter your rank so you probably won't ever use it outside of fucking around
I honestly think more than 5 perks without an array of FUCK TONNE weapons was a mistake.
>>343643350
>Tripwire decides to bring back the old glorious voices
>cuts out the "bitches" in "You're all fur coat, no knickers, bitches!" because it could offend some people
>later on adds in Flex so you can swim around in a laggy pool of jiggling guts
There's nothing strange happening at Tripwire Interactive at all you guys.
>>343655246
>>343655330
>heels
>a fucking gown
>practical for combat
WEW APOLOGISTS
>>343643619
>faggotry
>treating women as people is homosexual
????????
>>343630415
Anyone else see this shit?
Its fucking disgusting
>>343628919
>>343629550
>>343630415
>>343631118
To be fair, its because most of the characters are male, there's only one other female character
>>343641574
>the "objectification" of women is a dark mark on the industry
Yeah, not gun fetish mass murder gore simulators that are online only so you can bypass any age checks and sell them to kids
its the female body thats harmful, right guys???
:^)
>>343642878
>changing your entire personality and politics just to appease some random cunt that's not even sleeping with you
t. fedoralord
>>343630415
lol they literally added a fat feminist tumblrina to their game
can you get any more cucked
>>343658031
The 9mm in KF2 is alright. Its my main weapons whenever I play support, at least on the first few waves. Its just a waste of money to use your tier 1 weapon on clots
>>343628590
they're trying to be COD: ZOMBIEs without any of the fun elements and also L4D, without any of the fun elements.
>>343657339
its been over run by erp fags and people who reluctantly still play kf2
>>343658031
the resistance garbage doesn't even exist anymore
>>343657339
>Do they spend their time shitting on the game and the dev
well yeah
what else did you expect?
>Early access
I'm actually curious if there's an early access game that stayed consistently decent.
>>343641574
>Muh virtual objectification
>Thinks that there aren't sexualized men in vidya
>>343663865
Nuclear Throne
>>343664156
This game actually looks like it could be pretty good. I'll have to look into it and see if it's worth a purchase.
>>343656461
that's actually a lot, before this update the average was 5 or 0
>>343663609
it jsut got toned down a bit
its still there last I checked
>>343665256
barely
>>343665256
It's actually playable at least this time around. I can play zerker and firebug again and not feel miserable.
>>343660689
Nothing wrong with treating them as people. But making a long-winded speech like that, talking about "dark marks on the industry" (it's not), that virtual characters being sexy in games is "objectifying and dehumanizing" and somehow equivalent to how you treat actual people in real life, making unfounded statements that having these characters "turns most female players off from the games" and saying it's only appealing to 14 year-olds is emblematic of why people can't stand feminists. Nothing wrong with having preferences in how you design characters either, but the reasoning and how it's phrased is absolutely stupid.
>>343661365
>Yeah, not gun fetish mass murder gore simulators
Doom?
>Killing Floor and Red Orchestra were both free mods
>tripwire acquired the brand names and ran them into the ground with the self-developed sequels
I still wish refunds were available around RO2 release.
