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Preference, /v/?
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>>343558695
GBC in color.
Crystal was the best Pokky men
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FireRed is objectively the superior game. Only reason to play Red nowadays is to sate nostalgia.
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Leaf Green and Fire Red are the perfect pokemon games.
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Original, probably mostly out of nostalgia though.

I was 8 when Red/Blue came out. I'm guessing most of /v/ userbase nowadays was a few years younger.
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>>343558859
>FireRed is objectively the superior game.
Wrong.

FireRed keeps most of the weaknesses of Red, but retains very few of the strengths. Several poor ideas drag the overall product down, and the small additions hardly make up for the overall weaker product.

Honestly, OR/AS were better than FR/LG.
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>>343558695
those tube things are trees??
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>>343559025
>Several poor ideas drag the overall product down

Which ones? Genuinely curious. The world of not-casual pokemon is a mystery to me.
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>>343558889
>I was 8 when Red/Blue came out. I'm guessing most of /v/ userbase nowadays was a few years younger.
They came out the year I was born.
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Fire Red is just the original with new graphics, and an extra region at the end.
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>>343559067
no!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
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>>343559126
That makes you average for around here, seriously. People who think /v/ is all dudes in their mid-twenties are fucking delusional. Not even reddit reaches that.

Gaming forums in general are a haven for 16-19 year olds, and past 22 the drop-off is huge.
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>>343559025
>Psychic not being instant win
>Different attacks use different stats instead of type based, making more Pokemon not complete garbage
>More than one ghost Pokemon
>inferior
Take off your nostalgia goggles, please.
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>>343558889
I was 8 when the games came out in America

>>343559352
People project themselves on others on the internet whether they realize it or not, and falsely assume they are among peers that are more similar to them than they really are

>tfw turning 24 this year
Feels bad man
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>>343558695
Original Red with GBC color pallet.
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>>343559072
Nah, mechanically speaking it's fine.
Two things that come to mind immediately is
>Forced tutorials out the ass
>Not integrating the new evolutions to old Pokemon into the game, like later remakes would do.

>>343559416
>Psychic not being instant win
Kek FR/LG has no Dark types and only one Steel type which you almost never see anyway. Psychic isn't as broken in FR/LG as it is in R/B, but it's still really fucking strong.

>Different attacks use different stats instead of type based, making more Pokemon not complete garbage
Not added until Gen IV chucklefuck. This was Gen III.

>More than one ghost Pokemon
Not until post game, which is kind of weak in this game anyway. Pre-Elite 4, your only option is the Gastly line, which humorously is weak to Psychic.

>inferior
Yes.
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>>343558695
FireRed. Anyone who likes Red/Blue more is a fucking hipster.
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>>343559715
You have not said a single reason of why the original is better.
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>>343558695
Red++ romhack injected into my 3DS famalam.
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>no LightingYellow
Fuck you Nintendo.
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>>343560145
>No forced tutorials.
>Fun glitches and exploits
>A unique experience compared to Gen III and beyond, mostly thanks to jank.
>Fewer interruptions to gameplay, feels more cohesive.
>Nostalgia/Retro appeal.

Kanto, if you remove the layers of bugs, nostalgia, and what not, wasn't a very strong region compared to later regions, and FR/LG reflects that. If you want to play Gen III, Emerald is superior. If you want to play Gen I, just play Gen I.
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>>343559416
Gen I just had a different philosophy. Instead of balancing shit out, it created a world. It's only natural bugs and birds were at the bottom of the heap, and reality-bending psychics were at the top.
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>>343560739
>Nostalgia/Retro appeal.
Hipster douche.
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>>343560869
You can appreciate retro aesthetics without being a hipster, anon. And that doesn't detract from any of the other points.

>>343560868
I honestly didn't get the point of making psychic weak to bug if they weren't going to make any good bug moves. Really, X-Scissor should have been in the game from day one.

Also lol Psychic is immune to ghost bug (which didn't even matter, as the only two ghost moves sucked.)
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>>343558695
definitely the original red
the graphics might be a bit prettier in the remake, but there's a certain charm that the old version has, especially the old sprites
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>>343558695
This one.
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>>343559067
I don't think they were originally supposed to be
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>>343560739
None of those are reasons you fucking nostalgia faggot
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>>343560869
There is nothing wrong with that you b8er.

I agree with what he said besides the Kanto not being strong thing. It's stronger than Johto was and I'm always going to prefer gen1 no matter how much it triggers the manchildren. And if we are truly honest with ourselves anyways Fire Red didn't even expand the region in a truly meaningful way anyways.
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>>343561401
I agree strongly. Watercolor-era Pokemon had a way better aesthetic. FR/LG look manufactured and soulless by comparison.
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>>343561401
>especially the old sprites

>that pidgey
>that sandshrew

I liked how pidgey looked like an actual bird. Sandshrew also looked a lot like a real animal.
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ITT: Nostalgiafags are real
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>>343562154
>hey guys which one do you like better, original or remake?
>kek nostalgiafags giving the wrong answer
do our different opinions trigger you?
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FACTS:
HGSS > B2W2 > RSE > GSC > BW > ORAS > XY > FRLG > DPP > RBY
SuMo looks like it will be between BW and ORAS
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>>343563158
Why do /vp/-types hate gen 4 so much?
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>>343563246
they love HG/SS though
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>>343563439
*why do /vp/-types hate Diamond and Pearl so much
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>>343560739
There are no valid reasons there
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>>343563514
i tried replaying it recently and it felt so...incomplete? it has a lot of great ideas but it just feels kinda strange and just overall bad. maybe platinum is better but i never tried it.
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>>343558695

I prefer the wider field of vision of the originals.
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>>343563158
>SuMo
fuck off reddit, it's SM
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>>343558695

I like the original more. Maybe it is nostalgia, but I think there's another, more valid reason, and here it is

Red/Blue was designed for the gameboy, the towns and everything were designed with that in mind. The game has a very "old gameboy" layout, so to speak. So its weird to see it with updated graphics and fancy GBA colors, almost like the clash is too big. It doesn't make sense to have the rather simplistic, square town layouts with those updated graphics and colors.
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>>343560739
The game is objectively better because it's older, glitchier, janky, and in general less polished

Genwunners everyone
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The Gen 1 remakes were awful for some reason. The artstyle which looked nice in Hoenn looks like trash in Kanto. HGSS are the best remakes.
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what percentage of people who bitch about "genwunners" are people literally too young to have played gen 1 when it was relevant?
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>>343564059
http://www.strawpoll.me/10650396
.....
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>>343564341

I don't agree with that person's post, but sometimes a game can have too much polish.
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>>343563850
As someone who dislikes Sinnoh, Platinum was hell of a lot better.

I tried replaying my Pearl copy a while back for a Nuzlocke, but I kept abandoning it every single time. Once I got a Platinum copy though, you can feel how much quality there is in Platinum, compared to the other two.
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Pokemon Yellow, because you get all the startes plus Jesse and James are in it.
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>>343559416
>Different attacks use different stats instead of type based, making more Pokemon not complete garbage
The physical/special split on a move to move basis happened in gen 4 not 3. Back then attacks were still categorized as physical/special based on type and nothing else.
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>>343564657
Considering only autists or children would invent a term like "genwunner" and spam it any time anyone says anything even remotely positive about gen 1 I'd say 70% minimum.
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The GBA soundchip in pokemon games sounds like complete shit. Classic all the way.
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Yellow on GBC is the true master race.
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B2W2, Platinum, and HGSS are the three best pokemon games.
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>>343566013
>The GBA soundchip in pokemon games sounds like complete shit. Classic all the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW2CJ4cxWZM
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>>343558695
Red has thicc grass
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>>343558859
Correction: modded Firered is the objectively superior game.

Still waiting for a open-source Pokemon maker. But people prefer limiting themselves to the original hardware for some masochistic reason
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>>343560868
I really like that view point, I'm going to take it.
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>>343566236

Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Because that sounds like shit.
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>>343566236
Exactly, that clusterfuck proves it.
>let's shove in every instrument in the set
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>>343558695

I genuinely prefer the older one. The GBA remake is an "update" in the most bland way possible. Just because a game soups up the graphics a bit does not make it automatically better.

Its kind of like SMB vs. SMB all stars. The original NES version looks way more visually interesting.
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>>343566236

this sounds better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptXXzQ_dXwg
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>>343566463
>>343566563
>>343566884
>samefagging this hard
Genwunners everyone
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>>343561627
>manufactured and soulless
the two cancers affecting most videogames for the last 15 years.
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>>343566997
kek whatever helps you sleep at night, babby boy
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>>343566236
I liked trumpets more then FRLG
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>>343558695
>From 4 lanes to 2 lanes

Are you fucking kidding me
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>>343561627
Looks like Gen 2 was the last to use the watercolor style, while Gen 3 was the last to more or less look like the classic Sugimori drawings.

It's actually kinda weird to see Gen 1 and Gen 6 in the same picture, they look so fucking different.
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>>343558695

Between those two, i like the gba version more because it's added other shit even if i began with Red. The only thing that would have made it better would have been a day/night system which i loved the fuck of in Silver
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>>343561572
Gross

Looks like a 1st grader drew that.

Why is the orange from the doors going beyond their own outline?
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>>343567768
i think it's to indicate to retarded children that they can enter them. a slightly more subtle variation on the glowing item trope.
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>>343558695
FR/LG is a straight upgrade to RBY. I loved the old games, but there's really no reason to play them any more. HG/SS is the same way. ORAS never happened, however.
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>>343561627
this is definitely the highest grade of design the art in a pokemon game has ever achieved.
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Red & Blue >>> Fire Red & Leaf Green
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Neither are particularly good games. The battling system is totally unchallenging and brainless, the AI does nothing to subvert type disadvantages and healing items are insanely plentiful and overpowered. Running into wild Pokemon is infamously tedious, and the stream of trainer battles that offer no stimulation are a bother too. The gameplay is just walking and battling, neither of which are good.

The real fun in the game is the exploration, getting past the roadblocks and puzzles in the world, seeing new Pokemon, and a feeling of adventure and wonder. There was also a rather epic and triumphant feeling involved with defeating the gym leaders and elite 4 for the first time.

1/2
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This is why Pokemon Red/Blue are the superior games. When you replay Pokemon, they completely lack the fun qualities, because you've already done it so many times before. I know where to go in Mt. Moon, I know to get the silph scope, where all the HMs are, where the card keys, and all that shit are. I know the rock puzzles in seafoam island, the trivia in blaine's gym, where all the legendary birds are. There was nothing exciting about replaying RBY when FRLG came out, and there's been nothing exciting about the recent Pokemon games because they're all just recycled crap.

Whichever Pokemon you played first, is the best, because all the value the game has is there for you. This is why FRLG and crap to many of us. Just because you enhance the graphics (not like RBY's didn't serve their purpose), or fix a few bugs and battle mechanics (WHICH HAVE NO EFFECT ON THE GAME BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST FACEROLL BY SPAMMING ANY MOVE AND POTIONS), does not make the game better, because it's not new.

2/2
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>>343569020
>>343568910
Basically this. I will never understand the retards who complain about the old games having broken battle mechanics or unbalanced monster types. You know perfectly well the only reason anybody is gonna replay those games is to satisfy their own nostalgia.
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>>343558695
Best version
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What is this?
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>>343565076
>The physical/special split on a move to move basis happened in gen 4 not 3
This is honestly the reason why Gen III feels the least appealing in terms of gameplay nowadays to me

Gens I and II were both harbored by system limitations while everything from IV onward has that Physical/Special split to make shitmons viable. Gen III being that shitty, in-between makes for the worst experience
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>>343566884
Maybe if you have hearing problems
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>>343569559

a tree stump
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>>343558695
Fire Red. All the good of the original but with visuals that don't damage your eyes.
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>>343558695
Graphics: original for muh nostalgia and black haired Red.
Gameplay: none, pokemon's battles only got good after Gen IV.
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>>343569559
i always thought of them them like so
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>>343561627
I honestly wonder at times how much less I would hate some of the new designs if they were revealed in watercolor. That is aside from the really shitty ones
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>>343569559

I've been asking this question for almost twenty years. I still don't know.
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>No infinite TM's, Vitamins, PP ups, rare candies ect.
>No Mew Glitch to get any Pokemon you want
>Remade during worst generation
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What is this?
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Pokemon was great before it got kiddified and casualized by the anime. The first gen especially has a bunch of unsettling stuff about it. Nobody knew what a monster of a franchise Pokemon would become so some design decisions are unique to the first gen. The world was mysterious and Team Rocket seemed like an actual threat, not some comical bad guys they'd become in later games.

Also the sprites in the remake are fucking tiny and shitty.
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>>343558695

I hate how the trees look in FR/LG. They just look so garish and overdone.
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Originals every single time.
They're better in every way.
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>>343561627
>literally one generation
I like this art, but don't pretend like it was the standard at any point.
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>>343571327
>Seemed like an actual threat
>Get trounced by 12 year old

Reminder Galactic committed actual terrorist attacks by blowing up a fucking lake and Plasma abused and manipulated a kid by warping their mind into some twisted manchild for their own game. The worst Rocket was shown doing is killing an animal

It was Gen III where the villains were at an all time low and ORAS benefited by making them actually sympathetic anti-villains. It's a shame they ruined their motivation with she-who-must-not-be-named

I'll agree Gen I seems more down to earth, but for a series involving super monster animal/creatures/things down to earth doesn't make much sense
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>>343558695

the coloration on the remake just kind of sucks. I like the black and white.
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>>343566884
agreed
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>>343571630
Down to earth worked back then because pokemon weren't literal gods just yet and the biggest threat you had to face was just a crime syndicate interested in expanding their power to global dominance.
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>>343561627
>>343567589
No wonder why I stopped after gen 3. The last truly great gen of pokemon.
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>>343560739
>genwunners

kill yourself
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>>343571962
Yeah the world was better when it focused around pokemon as just beasts being tamed by man.
Then they ran wild with the mythology. Gods? Taoism? Creationism? Just fucking why.
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>>343572431
They should have left a lot of that shit ambiguous, such as Arceus. Being able to capture the literal creator of the universe just devalues anything and everything about it. I still don't understand how they didn't think of some of the consequences of introducing the god pokemon

>So we're introducing the creator of the universe, people will be able to catch him
>But if we're introducing the creator what will come after? Wouldn't that make legendaries afterwards seem irrelevant?
>No, just do it
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>>343560739
>No forced tutorials.
Eh... alright
>Fun glitches and exploits
You are justifying a buggy game with tons of glitches and exploits as fun and making it one of your winning reasons. You are retarded.
>>A unique experience compared to Gen III and beyond, mostly thanks to jank.
Unique experience? You're just reaching now. And there you go justifying a poorly designed game at the time by being thankful for it's unintentional jank. You are retarded.
>Fewer interruptions to gameplay, feels more cohesive.
There's an argument that can be made against this but it's still partly opinionated so you get this as well.
>Nostalgia/Retro appeal.
>I like a completely inferior game because muh memories, despite the remake literally being the original with extra addons and polish. That objectively makes it the better game.
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>>343571327
If you want non-kiddified Pokemon why not just play Mystery Dungeon?

Also Team Galactic was the most threatening group of bad guys.
>literally almost destroyed the world
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>>343559067
>>343561581
they are actually bollards
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>>343572885
I hoped that maybe each gen would be its own parallel universe with its own canon or something, but nope, they had to fuck that up too.
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>>343573243
I recall when GSC came out they made it seem like all the new pokemon were only recently being discovered, such as with steel being a recent pokemon type discovered as said by the one Gym Leader. It worked at the time.

Unfortunately it seems they gave up on giving any in game lore explanations as to how there are constantly hundreds of new species popping up without them noticing elsewhere.
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>>343571273
a middle finger with two sparkle effects
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what are those things that border the town in the gameboy version?
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>>343563158
>gen 5 ever above Platinum
Kill yourself
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>>343572885
it kinda is ambiguous. there are several conflicting mythologies within the pokemon world. they might have some truth in them, but obviously they are going to be exaggerated.
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>>343564826
Pillars of Eternity immediately springs to mind. Holy shit that combat system was well executed porridge.
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>>343573931
>Literally the Gen IV engine but fixed

No shit sherlock. People can excuse region design, etc. because the game plays significantly better. That was Gen IV's downfall, even if it was a significant improvement to Gen III
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>>343559570
I turn 28 this year, gonna get my PhD next year, and I haven't started looking for jobs. Regardless, I'm playing vidya for life.
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>>343573041
What are those?
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>>343573536
It made sense, which is why it wasn't odd that Gen 2 pokemon started popping up with Gen 1. Plus Gen 1 and 2 regions were neighbors, so the transition was smooth and overlap was sensible.

But when you fast forward to BW2 and you've got all these early Gen mons popping up with the later gens, it just seems moronic, especially when their native habitats are worlds away.
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>>343573536
I assumed they were going with the 'regional' angle. Pokemon in unova don't live in kanto etc
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>>343560739
The only reason I can defend is the fun glitches, but that's not really something that makes a game "better".

I played both version and the tutorials and "interruptions" weren't annoying at all, maybe if you have some sort of tisms you could get mad at this.
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>>343572885
As much as I enjoy Arceus I have to agree. It's pretty jarring to the entire experience when literal gods are still Pokémon and can be captured and tamed by children to fight.
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>>343573950
No I meant ambiguous as in never actually go into what created the pokemon universe. Mew having the ancestral DNA of every other pokemon was a stretch as it was. Now you have Arceus, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina that are creators of time and space and bullshit such as that. Would have been a lot better if they kept it a mystery.

>>343574346
Gamefreak doesn't bother explaining it any longer, which is what I dislike. It's difficult to believe that Hawaii is this disconnected from the rest of the world that nobody else has heard of their new pokemon (in regards to the ones they just revealed).
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>>343574554
Okay I see, thanks
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>>343566563
>let's shove in every instrument in the set
That's what makes the tracks in FRLG/HGSS sound akin to the originals, and why ORAS failed in that respect.
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>>343574421
I've been playing LG on my phone to pass the time now and then and I honestly don't even remember any tutorials.
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>>343574635
The new game is in Hawaii?
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>>343569020
Gen 1 was my first, and I think Crystal was the best game.
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>>343574635
they probably aren't the creators of time/space/etc. That's just the mythology. They obviously have a great deal of control over those things, but it doesn't mean that they are actually the creators.
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>>343574732
Essentially, just like X/Y are based on France and the rest are all based on different regions of Japan.
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>>343574707
I think they throw little hints and shits that weren't there in the first game.

Also an "interruption" might be that little TV show like intro they give you when you load a game, which I tought was pretty cute.
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>>343558802
>Crystal
GODTIER TASTE ANON BE PROUD
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>>343558695
So what were those barriers suppose to represent in the original GB games.
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>>343569559
if this wasn't immediately apparent to you, you may live in a third world shithole country
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>>343561627
I much prefer the watercolour look, but FR/LG at least still had the last edgy style.

Red straight looks like he's going to fuck someone up.
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Any game that doesn't have Totodile as a starter isn't worth my time.
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>>343559126
Nigga they came out the day after I was born.
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Holy shit whats with the arguing, I love me some nostalgia. Bought red on the eshop, but even I can see it has flaws and that they were made for in later releases. My favourite gen is 3, but I havnt played beyond that.

Anyone recommend which ones are worth getting? I was going to wait for sun and moon but I might pick up an older release if I can get is cheap second hand
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>>343574925
Ah yes, the great Japanese city of ニューヨーク
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>>343574078
When literally everything else about gen 5 was trash it's still incorrect to place it above 4.
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>>343574925
Gen 5 was the greater New York area IIRC.
So it's weird that they would give another region to Murrica.
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>>343574864
That could be argued when they reveal more pokemon that fill those roles. Like you said, their descriptions say "in mythology", but it sounds like they're describing it as the mythology of the entire pokemon world rather than just one certain region. What is annoying are the conflicting descriptions by version

>In mythology this faggot was born before the universe was made and then shaped it with its thousand arms
>According to the legends of X region this faggot shaped the world
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>>343575165
I would say give Black or White a shot. imo it's the one that feels closest to recapturing the spirit of RBY, and the last one to use based sprites.
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>>343575304
Isn't America pretty much Japan's closest ally?
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>>343563158
No opinion on the ranking, but why the hell did they abandon the best feature of HGSS? I was so hyped for Pokémon following you prerelease, and it was as awesome as I dreamed of it. Then they never looked back. Makes no sense
At least trainer outfit choosing is continuing on
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>>343575165
HGSS and BW are the ones I rate really highly.

BW goes full new-pokemon-only so it's pretty refreshing and different.
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>>343561627
You gotta admit that the music was good in FRLG right? Both soundtracks are equally good.
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>>343575295
Hoenn and Kalos still exist, so Gen V isn't that bad
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>>343575360
aren't real-world religions like this too?
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>>343575673
>Hoenn
>bad
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>>343558695
I was like 13 when Pokemon hit America. Way too old to get into something aimed at kids and drenched in annoying high pitched screaming characters. So neither.
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No running shoes.
Unplayable.
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>>343575789
Yes, it is

It marked a significant decline. Hoenn straight up killed Pokemania, especially by cutting out a good 100 of the Pokemon from the prior game which was a straight improvement over Gen I unlike Game Freak's new two steps back philosophy
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>>343575726
What do you mean? That they believe in one creator with different names? My point is that there aren't any other pokemon that would replace Arceus in any other region. Hoenn doesn't have an arceus counterpart, nor does Kanto, Johto, etc. Until there are, it and the other three are the de facto gods. And their existence as gods is just silly.
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>>343575034
like really, what else could they possibly be when the answer is this easy
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>>343575989
kanto and johto both believe in evolution from a common ancestor, mew. god is dead
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>>343558889
>>343559126

>I got R/B for my 5th birthday
>starting to feel old in 4chan
>starting
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>>343567526
Are you retarded?
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>>343575831
Fuck off gramps
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>>343575892
>it marked a significant decline
That's incorrect. Pokémon has been on a very bumpy decline since gen 4, but it only got sharp around 5. Gen 3 was actually a sharp improvement over the previous two when you consider the upgraded graphics.

>straight up killed Pokemania
The fuck are you smoking? Gen 3 is widely regarded as the best gen. Emerald is one of the most emulated video games in the world and Ruby and Sapphire aren't far behind. That as well as the fact that the gen 3 Pokémon themselves are regarded as some of the best prove you wrong. Aggron and Flygon alone are insanely popular, not to mention the starters.
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>>343575831
Yeah I hated the voice acting in the original red and blue as well.
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>>343575360
>but it sounds like they're describing it as the mythology of the entire pokemon world rather than just one certain region.
No it doesn't. Dialga, Palkia and Arceus are only spoken of in the legends of the Sinnoh region, and even then it's just myths and folk tales not all citizens of Sinnoh would even know about.
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>>343558695
fire red

gen 1 is so buggy it's borderline unplayable
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>>343558695
>2 regions based on america
>only 1 on europe

USA
S
A
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>>343576781
>Only

Diamond
>It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
HG/SS
>According to the legends of Sinnoh, this Pokémon emerged from an egg and shaped all there is in this world.
BB2WW2
>It is said to have emerged from an egg in a place where there was nothing, then shaped the world.
Y/Sapphire
>It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.

One description says "in Sinnoh". The other makes it sound like the mythology of the entire world. And then each region's pokedex contradicts itself with the other version.
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>>343575504
You mean its master.
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>Pokegirl design just keeps getting better
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>>343576980
>Europe gets BTFO by Japan, UK, and America

Pottery
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>>343568910
>>343569020
Played gen 1 blue first when I was 4, red when I was 5, and yellow just before I turned 6 and my favorite game to date is hands down platinum, followed by crystal.
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>>343569686
i feel you brah

>return gyarados because all it has otherwise is earthquake and ddance, or breed a gorillion magikarps until you get one fit to use full power HP flying, and even then it gets walled by some pokes and you have to run your water STAB anyways, running from your kekworthy special attack

kill me
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>>343561153

I always thought bug was strong against psychic because bug's minds are too simple for psychic pokemon to manipulate
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>>343576626
Wow, you are such a child it fucking hurts

Prior to Gen V nobody liked Hoenn. Everybody either skipped out on it and maybe bought the remakes or got Emerald on the cheap. Being emulated just shows how much people didn't want to buy the game you nob

Gen III wasn't so much a sharp improvement as it was establishing Game Freak's one step forward, two steps back philosophy of design. Can't bring back a mechanic? Scrap it and do some other shitty, unnecessary things
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>>343571273
I dunno but I have the biggest urge to squirt water on it
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>>343577792
Fucking this. Hoenn babies are too young to remember this, but I remember Gen III being regarded as the weakest upon release.
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>>343577609
It is because bugs and ghosts are common fears, they only needed to make psychics resist fairy because strong minds don't believe in nonsensical bullshit like magic.

>>343577129
You have no idea how hard i want to fuck miyu, the moment robot waifus are released i am ordering my own custom loli designed after her,
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>>343576876
What bus are you honestly going to run into if you don't actively seek them out?
I have NEVER experienced any bugs in gen 1 myself.
But yes, I do prefer the remakes. They're literally just upgrades.
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>>343559352
So what do people browse instead of 4chan/reddit/other forums after age 22?
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>>343577056
>in mythology
>it is said
>legends
>it is told in mythology
The Pokedex, besides being full of wildly exaggerated information, is a scientific encyclopedia. The Pokemon world shares elements with the real world, and I imagine much of the civilized world's population not believing in old tall tales being one of those elements. I don't see it as necessary to specify that these legends come from the Sinnoh region in every possible instance.
You only need to look at the rest of the games themselves to see this. How many NPCs do you see mentioning these things, especially in games not taking place in Sinnoh? There are a couple specific NPCs who have a clear interest in mythology, like Cynthia and her relatives or the higher-ups in Team Galactic, and the player character learns through them.
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>>343576626
>Gen 3 is widely regarded as the best gen.
By kids whose first game was RSE.
>Emerald is one of the most emulated video games in the world and Ruby and Sapphire aren't far behind.
Because those were the newest Pokemon games available and GBA emulation was the hottest thing around, this is when emulation was really taking off in the early 2000s.
>gen 3 Pokémon themselves are regarded as some of the best
[citation needed]
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>>343578028
>never been wrapped for 13 turns fighting some random ass trainer
I don't know if it qualifies as a bug, but god damn.
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>>343578003
How prepared is your dick for the new season?
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>>343578136
The real world mostly.
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>>343578281
VERY
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>>343578220
If you ever died from that you suck dicks
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>>343578398
What about people past that age who still game (which there are plenty of), do they just stick to reading news articles about games like on ign or whatever?
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>>343578148
>How many NPCs do you see mentioning these things

So what are we blaming here? Gamefreak's inability to write a cohesive, consistent world lore? If the pokedex is a scientific encylopedia, why does it maintain two sets of information from region to region, this being the only semi constant. And if regions are supposed to hold different beliefs in mythology, why aren't they ever specified? If we use the logic of people in different areas believing in different things, only the people of Hoenn believe that Groundon/Kyogre are the reason for the land and the sea, but they don't have anything about a "god" creator.

That would be weird and entirely inconsistent that only one region of the world, one that is part of several other regions together is the only one that believes in a single creator. The pokemon world clearly has a singular mythos.
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>>343559352
False. You are here for life. Im mid twenties came here when i was younger, but i will be here till the site goes down. I imagine that's the case for a lot of users. I might go to other boards here and then sure, but i stay here when there is no football or hockey, and no major tech releases.
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>>343578604
I'm more of a Kuro man myself but I respect and admire your passion.
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>>343579062
Despite having a singular mythos, for some reason the necessity of making every game someone's first Pokemon game makes all attempts at actual lore moot because the continuous story is negated to being nothing but small nods between games

Instead of anything making actual sense, you get this half-assed attempt at world-building that's seen in most poorly written Nintendo games like Zelda
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Those trees always looked like diamond jewels to me.
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>>343558802
>Crystal was the best Pokky men
>can't get a mareep in it

I'll just play Gold instead
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>>343579062
>only the people of Hoenn believe that Groundon/Kyogre are the reason for the land and the sea, but they don't have anything about a "god" creator.
Maybe they do, but the storylines of the games certainly have nothing to do with said myths, and the Hoenn games are only concerned with the legendary ancient clash of titans that had power over land and the seas. And I don't think the Hoenn myths tell of Groudon and Kyogre as "the reason for the land and the sea", they're just titans of great power that once waged battle against each other.
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>>343578746
>being stunned for 13 turns is totally fine
To be fair I abused how absurdly overpowered sleep powder was to clear the game.
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>>343580063
>>nd I don't think the Hoenn myths tell of Groudon and Kyogre as "the reason for the land and the sea"

From R/S Pokédex:
GROUDON has long been described in mythology as the POKéMON that raised lands and expanded continents. This POKéMON took to sleep after a cataclysmic battle with KYOGRE.

KYOGRE is named in mythology as the POKéMON that expanded the sea by covering the land with torrential rains and towering tidal waves. It took to sleep after a cataclysmic battle with GROUDON.
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>>343559025
OR AS was shit. HG SS were the best remakes
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>>343575650
Fuck NO

Besides the GBA chip sounding like ass, it's like they just picked instruments at random and kept switching them. Awful.
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>>343575650
>legendary music is literally the normal battle music pitched up
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>>343568125
>FR/LG is a straight upgrade to RBY. I loved the old games, but there's really no reason to play them any more.
Missingno and fun glitches
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>>343580351
I see nothing here that would help your case.

Groudon has the power to call forth droughts and expand land. Kyogre has the power to call forth torrential rains and raise the seas. Now show me where it is said that Groudon and Kyogre are responsible for the existence of land and sea.
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>>343580058
ayy what the fuck? theyre next to the heracrosses you dumb shit
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>>343581418
There's no Mareep in Crystal you dumb shit
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>>343558695

>fire red had running boots

this single addition makes the game superior. if you disagree, you need to take off those nostalgia goggles
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>>343581418
you can't catch mareep in crystal, despite it not being an exclusive in G/S.

Completely ruins the game for me, because it's the only gen 2 electric type that isnt a baby/legendary
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>>343581284
I'm not the guy making the case, I just knew it mentioned them directly affecting land and sea
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>>343581801
Regardless, that anon seems to have gotten some weird ideas in his head about Pokemon lore
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I finally find a thread in /v/ discussing pokemon mechanics and its dead. great
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red plus plus
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>>343584250
what do you wanna talk about
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>>343567589
Probably need to update this to have the ORAS designs instead of Emerald and the Sun/Moon protags.
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>>343577792
Are you just literally retarded or what?

You must have either not been in the Pokémon scene until gen 5, or you're just baiting. People wouldn't bother emulating it if they didn't want to play it. How hard is that to wrap your head around?

You saying gen 3 made two steps back just shows how little you know about this subject. Not only were the graphics improved, but battles were significantly sped up from their previous pace that was sluggish at best in the older games. The mechanics were good. It's hard to fuck those up in games like Pokémon anyway.
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>>343585184
there isnt anything in particular, I just like seeing others discussion of the series. different viewpoints and all that
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>>343586059
>All this talk and nothing was said

No kid, most people who grew up with Gens I and II did not like Gen III on launch. It was the black sheep up until the kids who played it grew up. That's a straight fact

Also how the hell are battles sped up? Do you actually play with the battle animations on?

Nobody in the goddamn world until all the children playing Pokemon from the very beginning with half a brain will say that people actually liked Hoenn. That shit didn't start catching fire until the Hoenn Confirmed meme of Gen V
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>5>4>3>2>6>>1
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>>343587271
Johto is my favorite, and other than the level curve i dont know why some people dont like it. I can understand liking gens 4 or 5 more than it, but i cant understand 3.
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Which gen had the best meta?
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>>343587271
2 above 3 and this is my opinion

GSC were the only games in the series to be a straight improvement of the previous installment. That deserves a bit of praise
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>>343587501
V would've been the best if Smogon weren't retards and actually banned weather. It's straight fun all around and had the best tier I've ever played in (UU)

IV's was pretty bad thanks to Stealth Rock, III's is decent despite the region and engine being shit, II and I are awful for different reasons

VI isn't even a meta
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Is it worth playing one of those romhacks that make Fire red have all 386 dudes? I figure if I try it, I'd only use it to use Gengar and Alakazam in game.
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Which generation had the best soundtrack?
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>>343587271
What are those pokemon doing to that man?
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>>343588085
5 and 2
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>>343588085
2 easily. 4 and 5 are close seconds for their own reasons. Gen 1 set a great bar to reach, 3 would have been better if the GBA chip wasn't shit, and 6 was fairly boring.
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>>343569686

Thankfully there are Romhacks for that.
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>>343558802
HGSS were the best remakes I ever played.
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>>343588231
They are showing him how to train
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I didn't mind fire red, but the one thing i really hated and spited me during the entire game is how square red's head looked.

Anyone else?
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>>343588085
overworld themes
2 > 3 = 4 > 1 > 5 = 6
battle themes
5 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 6 > 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXqmIkCYOSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOGOj903gto
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>>343588350
although, 6 did have some great standouts: https://youtu.be/hSGZqdfZj4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_csfdsyYX4
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>>343589924 here, I liked this one a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL0PgiEfrAA
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>yfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KwyG9HhwHA
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>>343590347
>That main theme remix
This is kirby remix tier
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>>343590347
It's cool that you hear the Pokemon Main Theme at crucial moments like that, but it's a bit dumb how it overrides the kickass gym leader theme completely and you only hear it for a short moment. It should at least flow from the actual leader theme a bit better, but no, the two tracks are nothing alike
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>>343566463
>sounds like shit
What's it like having no taste? Also, you should go to a doctor.
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>>343566675
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>>343560310
fug that looks amazing
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>>343591046
RBY has better music and art. FRLG has better combat and the great sevii islands.
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>>343590642
Well it assumes a bigger gap between the fainted and final pokemon a.k.a that you're not mashing A just to get through the battle dialogue.
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>>343558695
FireRed is better just for the improved gameplay, quality-of-life changes and expanded pokemon list and movepool options.
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>>343566236
sounds like hot shit m8 sorry it was your first pokemon game underage

bw2's remix is serpior
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Pokemon BLUE on my Gameboy pocket. While listening to Tubthumping by Chumbawumba.


Mother Fucker!!
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>>343571469
Except that's wrong, but okay. Keep being delusional.
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>>343591442
>battle dialogue
what, that thing that you see for five seconds before the game moves on even when you're not pressing A? I mean, I probably hear the music for longer than most since I keep my levels low for some semblance of challenge but it's still a pretty short burst at the climax of the fight
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>>343587226
>durr I didn't like it so nobody did and that's a fact jack

Go fuck yourself.

The battles were faster because the HP bars drained faster. Maybe if you actually played them you'd know that.
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>>343591245
Okay, I'll give you that.
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>>343591659
I GET KNOCKED DOWN
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>>343590347
I was mad this wasn't implemented in Gen VI
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>>343575052
This, Red meant business.
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>>343592174
Look, if you're trying to defend a game based on how fast the HP bar drains you're really not doing yourself a favor
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Anyone love how gen I and II have a almost modern feel to them? They remind me a lot of mother 1/2. The later ones feel more fantasy, something I could see people liking but personally I kinda didn't.

The unused content in gen I is pretty interesting. This unused "song" is really bizarre.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wBsA5Bh4d0
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>>343569559
When I was a kid I had no qualms thinking the were giant versions of that plastic that keeps the toys in Kinder Eggs.
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>>343595374
That is not the picture I choose, what the fuck.
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>>343595374
Creatures is made from the remnants of Ape, so no surprise that there was some Mother influence in the first two generations which were more closely made together compared to shit from Hoenn and beyond

Masuda started to take over for Tajiri from Gen III onward too, the very own creator of Pokemon only really worked on the first two games compared to being the Producer of the later installments; ergo the "Yes" guy
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>>343559352
Site demographics say average is mid-20s
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>>343561627
any good Sugimori art books?
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>tfw never played any pokemon after blue when i got it when it came out
>traded with friends
>loved it
>got all 150
>bought a gameshark to get mew
>never played a single other pokemon game
Should I play another Anons? Which is best?

Also pic semi-related. It was a cute af drawing some anon did when trying to describe what he thought you looked like during a battle scene from red/blue.
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Gen 1 safari zone is ridiculous. I could NEVER catch Tauros.
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