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Why is dragons dogma so underappreciated and are you excited for dd2?
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Why is dragons dogma so underappreciated and are you excited for dd2?
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>are you excited for dd2

Crapcom wil never ever dd2, they chose to make dragon's dogma online and never release it on the west.
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>>343553147
DELETE THIS
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> You will never fly into free for the first time again.
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>>343553147

Because the game has brutally bad level design aside from BBI. The whole game should have been in corridors, small open areas, antechambers, and castles etc. Gran Soren sucks.
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>>343553147
If they announced a DD2 I would be excited for it.

It had some really good fights, fun mechanics and good enemies.

Side quests need work.

>>343553892
Gran soren isn't that big so it's alright I guess, I probably would have preferred it if it was always night or something though.

I don't mind it as a way to get from town/dungeon A to town/dungeon B.
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>>343553147

Is DD2 even confirmed?
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>>343553147
>Why is dragons dogma so underappreciated
Pros:
Great control mechanics/swordplay

Cons:
shitty world
shitty NPCs
shitty story
MMO-like quests
shitty and empty dungeons (except BBI)
shitty loot
shitty everything else
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>>343557128
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>>343553870
>tfw bought dark arisen and didn't get fly into free in the opening
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Too generic. It needs a more unique art style and design so it can stand out from the million other medieval games
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>>343557527
>reaction image
>no counterpoints
Thanks for proving me right. Truth hurts doesnt it.
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>>343553147
because the combat's shit
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>>343558180
you take that back
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>Are you excited for DD2.

Itsuno will make DMC5 before he makes DD2.

And I'm not even sure he'll do DMC5...
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>>343553883
Almost 250k for a port of a niche as fuck game from 2012.
I'm surprised it sold as well.

>>343555668
There is little word on anything Dragon's Dogma related outside of Online.

The PC release though did push it over 2 million units sold, and Capcom has gone on record saying that they will only continue making games in a series that has sold over 2 million units per iteration.

So there is a chance. A tiny, small, puny, insignificant chance, but a chance nonetheless.
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>all these people who think there'll be no sequel

It's inevitable. This game has an insane amount of sales. Might take a year, might take three years, but it's going to be made.
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>>343558136
No one is retarded enough to take your bait further, and you won't change the fact that this game is known masterpiece with weak baits.
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>>343558537
Not if itsuno decide to make DMC5 instead.
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>DD2 comes out
>3-4 new classes
>a bunch of new skills for older classes
>new monsters to fight and weapons and armors to make

Now, about the world, either:
>a bigger world overall
or
>the map is the same size, but you can change between different time periods, which changes multiple things in the map, a lot of random hills and geometry is reused between time periods
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>>343558537
>It's inevitable

Sorry, but in Capcom's pipeline Devil May Cry is mentioned by name and Dragon's Dogma Online is the only DD related thing on here.

I don't think it's happening.
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>>343559256
Maybe not anytime soon but give it 5 or so years and we might hear something.
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>>343559256
I wonder what Itsuno think about DD Online
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>you will never be the dangan for the first time ever ever again

fucking kill me /v/ I spent weeks playing this after picking it up on a whim
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>>343559256
Then there's something wrong with the executives. SEGA called alien isolation's amazing sales disappointing but I hoped capcom wasn't that stupid.
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>>343558537
It's already taken 4 years anon.
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>>343559645
Dragon's Dogma PC sold well, but so did DMC4SE, and that's a re-release of a 8 year old game.

DMC as a franchise has just sold more and thus has more recognition. Also Dragon's Dogma is just way more ambitious. DMC's combat may be deeper but it's still a small, level based game. While DD was so ambitions in its design that consoles could barely handle it.

If they are going to choose between DMC5 or DD2, they'll probably choose the former. DMC4SE was rehash central and still sold like close to a million. Doing DD2 justice would probably be a way bigger project.
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>>343560350
I think multiplayer would have done it well. I like pawns but if you could have a Berserk multiplayer party the player base would be so much bigger.
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>>343560350

The main problem is that I don't see Capcom investing in a huge thing like Dragon's Dogma anymore.

I mean, the closest thing was that Deep Down thing, that we haven't heart about in a couple of years.
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>>343557992
This, I gave up on the game some 10 hours in after killing my tenth or so cyclops and swapping innumerable generic pawns. A shame it could've been a great game
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>>343561873
And at the same time they turn RE7 into a risky new direction, after 5 and 6 being their biggest sellers and game changers for the tps genre. Riskier move IMO than making DD2.
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>>343561873
Deep Down is a PS4Neo game
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>>343562107

It's easier to try to reinvent a old franchise, since brand recognition and media buzz will go a long way to market it.

Even going riskier with a old franchise is not as risky.
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This community...
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>>343557992
But then it would trigger peoples and lose the Skyrim audience
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>>343557128
Cons:
>shitty world
small world =/= shitty world
>shitty NPCs
They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong
>shitty story
Who cares about story
>MMO-like quests
Yeah ok I give you this
>shitty and empty dungeons (except BBI)
BBI is all that matters in the endgame
>shitty loot
Play as a female w/ female pawn and say that again faggot

DD was in no way a perfect game but it was a refreshing release from the flood of generic RPGs. That's why I liked it.
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>>343562107
>And at the same time they turn RE7 into a risky new direction, after 5 and 6 being their biggest sellers and game changers for the tps genre. Riskier move IMO than making DD2.

I think "cheaper" is a better description of RE7.

Say what you will about RE6, but that fucking game bleeds production values. 4 million at launch was a disappointment for Capcom.

Turning RE7 into a first person mansion setting horror game looks way more modest by comparison. I don't think they changed direction because they wanted to, I think they changed direction because Capcom simply can't afford to make games like RE6 anymore.
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>>343562726
RE6 is my favorite.

I like that they went another direction for 7, but I think classic style and action style should both still get games. RE6 is the best and smoothest tps I've played to date and paired with coop it's a great experience. I don't get all the hate. Same for Dead Space, I like all three of them.
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>>343562637
>BBI is all that matters in the endgame
Which makes the entire rest of the game kind of ass.
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>DD2

Why do you do these things to hurt us, Anon? Your mother and I didn't raise you to be this way.
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>>343553147
>dd2
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>>343563707
JULAAAY.
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>>343563084
>but I think classic style and action style should both still get games.
Capcom have said that's were Umbrella Corps fits in.
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>>343559256
>other series
I STILL BELIEVE
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>>343553147
>DD2
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>>343563926
and why isn't this being released outside of chinkistan?
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>>343553147
It's already very overappreciated honestly. It's an okay game that deserved some praising, but that's all. The bestiary was full of color swaps, the map way smaller than it initially seemed, most quests lack polish. It has some qualities and two extremely satisfying end bosses for the vanilla game, but the world feels unfinished and the level design is not really there.
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You must be new. There was an over abundance of dd games the past 5 months or so. Nothing wrong with the threads, the game just isn't under appreciated. Also whats up with the sudden ressurgence in popularity of the game. It was on last gen consoles for a minute now.
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>>343564082
That looks cool as fuck.
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>>343558180
but it was fun, and engaging. you're obviously just biased.
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>tfw you get to BBI as a warrior
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>>343563996
>>343564082
>Niggas that actually cast fist.
Fuck when is the fuckin sequel for this game coming out ? I thought the PC release did really well and it confirmed people actually wanted it.
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>>343564193
Because Capcom hates the west. That's why they gave us RE 5+6.
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>>343564383
That's from the MMO that's not available outside of Asia.
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>>343563996
>>343564082
what class is this? what magic is this this looks so cool
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>>343564252
>most of these are "I didn't like the game, I'd rather be playing a blander game instead"

Skyrim was a mistake
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>>343564252
>Filthy casuals complaints.
While I agree the story is laughable but the rest is the game is good.
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>it was too hard for them to at least make all BBI interiors unique
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>>343564528
I know that Iam asking SEQUEL WHEN?
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>>343564082
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>>343564252
>That second review
>Everything is confusing and the way to get new skills is complex
Every time
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>>343563797
>>343563926
>>343563996
>>343564082

;_;
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>>343564378
>Lets just hover slightly higher than a Warrior can jump
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>>343564553
Alchemist, gold manipulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4htPIBCX88
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>>343564732
Never.
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>>343557594
>tfw bought the PC version and got the Into Free mod
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>hear good things
>buy it
>combat seems like just button mashing and enemies respawn in the same place every time

Am I missing something?
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>>343558180
t. Witcherfag
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>>343565043
or maybe try not button mashing? you know you can play these games in two different ways....and what game doesn't have res pawing enemies? do you not like farming an area for experience?
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>>343553147

>DD2

No such thing, not gonna happen with current Capcpom.

Someone's gotta step up and front the bill in order for that to happen and i don't want it to be $ony/M$. A third party publisher so it can be on both the consoles and PC.
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>>343565043
Your credibility.
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>>343564193
cost of running server clusters for countries and continents much much larger than japan, differences in the profitability of f2p mmos in overseas markets.

playing it with a vpn is easy though or at least it was last time i played
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>>343557128
>Great control mechanics/swordplay
And even that is questionable with its retarded damage calculations
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is there a trick to killin griffins i'm missing

i'm just outside gran soren and this fucker keeps flying around for 70% of the time, and then i'm barely able to get any damage in while he's on the ground
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>>343565554
climb him and stick your flaming sword of truth into him
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>Hear about DD being something like Monster Hunter
>See the first trailer with the Griffon hunt
>Buy it and never look back
>Even buying Dark Arisen
I found it challenging with exciting combat, like DmC's skills and moves with Monster Hunter like part breaking/tail cutting. My main gripes have always been how unpopulated the Western areas are, needs more classes, less half-plate armor, and more end game content which was mostly remedied in Dark Arisen.
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>>343553147
>Downloaded infinite spirnt and 1.6x jump
>fun increased exponentially
Now if just they allowed you to fucking port to every city/place you have visited

Im not that far into the game.
Im Building FULL GUTS MODE and so far it's actually the role that seems the most boring.
Do i get more then 4 skills at some point as Berserker?
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>>343565802
>My main gripes have always been how unpopulated the Western areas are, needs more classes, less half-plate armor, and more end game content which was mostly remedied in Dark Arisen.
I kind of feel the same way. More vocations and the inclusion of the content that was ultimately cut would've only made it better than it already was.
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>>343565949
>every city
H-haha good one anon
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>>343565949
and by more the 4 skill i mean get to use more then 4 skill
Like Worrior can use 8 from the get go and shit
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You're welcome Bitches.

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Zt704BQWayI
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What classes would you want in a sequel?

They should add alchemist obviously, that could work for an unarmed/fist weapon class.

I'd want a spear using class, like a dragoon who has a very aerial combat style.
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>>343566028
Could have gone to the moon and dragon island, and an elven forest to fuck elves. There was supposed to be a Monk vocation
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>>343565802

I bought vanilla on 360 about 6 months after release. Bought Dark Arisen on release. Bought the PC port on release, actually put in a vacation day from work for release day, played it as soon as it was available. Dogma is one of my top 3 games of all time.

It has a ton of flaws, but even with the flaws, what it does well is enough, for me, to more than outweigh the flaws.
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>>343553147
Because it has many flaws and it takes at least a playthrough to notice the good parts.

For example, the combat mechanics are pretty excellent, but if you play warrior, it's quite boring because of only 3 skill slots. The party distracts from the combat mechanics as well. Then there's the shitty coloring, black bars the original had, and a lack of character stats customization. It's also often mistaken for a free roam rpg, like skyrim, while it is actually more an rpg in the traditional role playing sense, mixed with stylish action.

DD2 would not work simply because it would not be able to work out all the flaws, and people already got bored of having such small movesets for what is actually an action game.
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>>343558180
You might want to try reading this buddy.
https://sites.google.com/site/darkwavestyle/games-research/dragon

Find me any rpg that has as much to say about the combat as this. I dare you.
https://sites.google.com/site/darkwavestyle/games-research/dragon
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>>343564252
Those dirty fucking casuals actually think skyrims combat is good.
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Can someone sell me on this game?
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>>343566474
>The ever popular brown elf party
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>>343566682

Not all elves need to be brown.
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>>343560350
>>343560874
THey'll probably do dmc5 with multiplayer first, then port over the combat and such to DD2. DD1 was basically a dmc game but the main character was given customization, his moveset split into classes, and put into a large world.
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>>343566758
>Having elves at all
We're here to purge this land
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>>343566663

You go in for the combat, the story starts off good (dragon steals your heart, go get it back) then is forgotten until the very end where it goes banana sandwich. The expansion area is fantastic, and where you will spend a good chunk of the game. You create and NPC companion, manage their skills, equipment, and to a degree their personality/behavior, and then pimp them out to other people, and you can "rent" other players NPC companions.

She Goat, Selene best waifu, wolves hunt in packs.
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>>343566936
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>>343567035
Might give it a go then, thanks
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> you will never ever hunt in packs
Why even live?
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DDO also have the new job Seeker
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>>343567156

Good luck and God speed friend. Between the console game where I had 6 gamertags (only one save per tag) and the PC port (I gameshared it new steam accounts I made), I have well over 1,000 in the game over the years.

Not to spoil anything, watch out for the bandits near the witchwood. You go there near the start of the game, maybe when you are level 10 or so. The ones with shields and the ones with greatswords are around level 20. Cheese them with ranged attacks, or just run past them.
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>>343566682
>not using periapts
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>>343567362
Right, thanks anon
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>>343567128
Divine Surcoat and Winged Great Helm, a timeless classic.
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is there a warrior L1 skill mod yet?
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Go my son, be A Bad Enough Dude.

Also, don't fall for the MinMax ruse. Only really needed if you are going unarmed, but that will require you to go to the DLC island (level 50ish) at level 7 to get the rings (if RNGesus loves you) + 200 levels of assassin to make it happen. End game weapons and augment make up about 2/3 of your stats, so even leveling the least ideal vocations will only result in a net loss of about 8% or so DPS. Just enjoy, and level classes for augments (passive upgrades).
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>>343566663
It's a pure gameplay game and it's fucking good.
That means, don't expect a stellar story. Or cinematic set pieces. You do your epic combat set-piece yourself because the combat actually allow crazy things if you're good.
Expect a lot of item management too
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>>343565616

l-lewd
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>>343567641
nope and it's not going to happen. you can use a greatsword with a magic shield or longbow though
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>>343567280
Oh shit, we actually /SnK/ now
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Can anybody explain why this game is so beloved?

I bought it a week or so ago due to the Steam sale discount, and though I've put around 15 hrs into it...I just don't "get" it. It's not horrible or anything, but it's such a profoundly dull game.

It feels like an awkward amalgam of Skyrim and Monster Hunter, but without the sheer scale of Skyrim or the...well, anything that makes MH compelling beyond fucking huge monsters. The class system is inflexibly flexible, where you have lots on choices that all filter down to the same warrior/ranger/mage trinity, the gear is boring/generic enough to not even warrant discussion, and I hate how sloppy the combat feels always being dependent on 3 AI partners. I never feel like victories are my own, since it's not as though my mage pawns blitzing the fuck of that cyclops was a brilliant tactical decision on my part.
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>>343567280
This looks so damn cool, I just wish it was easier to play for someone with a low level of Japanese.

Are there any apps or anything you can use in games to look up Kanji easier? Like a text hook or something. I tried playing with a dictionary app on my phone but it's a huge pain in the ass to look kanji up by radicals if you don't know the reading...
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>>343568013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbabKjKpA
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>>343568220
Why?
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>>343568726
anon why did you post a picture of a goat?
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>>343557128
this
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Celene best waifu.

Prove me wrong.
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>>343568792
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>>343568976
this fine woman exists famalam
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>>343568013
The combat and Pawn system, both have surprising depth. If you want to believe it, it does get better around the level 40 mark. 15 hours in sounds like you're probably at Gran Soren sitting around 20, I'd say the vocation system works well enough. All vocations are still useable at later levels, Strider being especially effective. It does stick to Fighter/Rogue/Mage, but you do get hybrid classes which are just that a mix of the Basic classes. Advance vocations are the super specialized vocations, Augments are arguably worth more to invest in than weapon skills since Augments can be used by any vocation.
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>>343569292
Not all of us are into bestiality m8.
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>>343568013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80epR2w9Pbc
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>>343568013
Because you get to make two waifus.
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>>343562637
>Who cares about story
>RPG
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>>343569623
>not playing as Guts and making a Casca pawn
It's why this game was made
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>>343557128
This. The game has a great base. The character creation, gameplay and combat are all perfect. All it needs is to be interesting. I wouldn't have played it nearly as long as I have if I couldn't play as a loli.
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>>343569837
no
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>>343569837
I've been playing since release and I have never made a Berserk related character, and I've never rented one. Have rented Dante though.
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>>343563996
>>343564082
This world looks way more interesting and fantastic than Dragon's Dogma's. What the hell?
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>>343569445
I believe I'm level 31 atm.

I'll continue playing the game for the time being, because even though I have frustrations with it, I keep waiting for things to click. I know there has to be more to this game than what I'm seeing right now. I just wish there were fewer "Kill X of Y" quests to get there.
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>>343568023
wasn't there an english patch that covered most of the menus?
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>>343553147
>dd2
Never going to happen, but I hope DD:O gets some kind of western release and I can get on it with my Austrian IP.
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>>343558136
>>no counterpoints
It's not like you made any actual point.
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>>343570453
Side quests are complete time wasters to focus on, I take them early and complete them as I hunt or do the main quest. Post Main Quest content is pretty fun, Everfall, Dark Gransys, Bitterblack Isles.
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>>343569968
>combat is perfect

Except the fucking pawn AI and the fact that the devs obviously hated the warrior.
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>Clothing has mutliple layers
There's never been a Fashion Dogma like this before.
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>>343570745
Your Main Pawn is only as good as you train it, never rent generic Pawns, or player made Pawns with Guardian inclination. Also whats wrong with Warrior?
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>>343571081

>whats wrong with Warrior?

Inability to smack anything that flies.
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>>343571208
Timing and Jumping Light Attack, Fighters have a similar problem.
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>>343570745
I don't really pay attention to Pawns. They're just there for weak enemies really.
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>>343571081
I played warrior with an archer pawn for 130 levels and not once, even after forcing the inclination with potions, did my pawn stop climbing monsters or stayed in ranged combat. It was actually so bad that she was slashing the ground under a hovering dragon for a straight minute and never went for her bow.
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>>343570474
They're working on one, but it's got serious issues. The previous patch was so out of date it broke your installation completely. There was a new one very recently (like, released in the last couple of days I think) but apparently there's a lot of content that gets blanked out. As in not just left untranslated but completely erased and left blank for some reason.

I'd rather play it in Japanese than keep waiting for an English patch that needs to be periodically updated, but for those god damn kanji. When my DDO client is done updating I'm going to try to just take pictures with my phone and see if google translate can can recognize the text. Or maybe I can just take a screenshot or something? I'm really wishing I studied harder in school now, kek
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>bought dd on sale for 30 bux
>seems like a good deal
>play tutorial
>this was a month ago
>forget I have it
>no desire to play it when I remember I have it
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>>343553147
Why is it so overappreciated?

Absolutely no skill required. Just upgrade your weapons to the best available.
Flat bonuses instead of percentile ones basically force you into constantly upgrading your gear.

The monster climb fights are a pale imitation of shadow of the colossus and feel very awkward.

They don't even try to make pawns make sense within the setting. "Lol, here's your mindless ghost slave."

The story is a joke. The kind chokes his wife and throws you into prison for having an affair with her, that you can't even avoid and after you break free he gives you quests like nothing ever happenend? The fuck?

The quests aren't even all that fun. It's pretty standard MMO fair. No real story involvement at all aside from the few main quest missions and even those are quite hamfisted.

In the dictionary under "wasted potential" there's an image of Dragon's Dogma.
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>>343570537
>a-any day n-now
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2015-06-19/dragons_dogma_online_may_be_launching_globally.shtml
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>>343553147
it's underappreciated everywhere but fucking overrated on this board.
It's a good game, it has nice ideas but it doesn't do a lot with it and it still has many flaws.
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my biggest problem with the game was the autistic stat gain system. it made it feel like playing as anything other than assassin or sorceror was gimping your character.
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>quick to the bluemoon tower arisen
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>>343571441
ah, i haven't kept up with ddo so I didn't know they had fallen that far behind. phone ocr worked mostly ok for me though, so that should help
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>>343571437
Did you spend time as a Strider or Ranger, whatever vocation your Pawn was? They learn by watching, and Ranger Pawns are notoriously difficult to get them to use only their bows. Most have suggested just taking their daggers away since Pawns cycle through weapon skills until they find the one appropriate for the range they're at or enemy type, so they'll typically use daggers on targets on the ground because they have dagger skills.
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>>343571774
>Get caught by an harpy there
>Leaves me next to a chest up there
>See a rare chest across a jump
>Fuck up and get Brined
>Can never get an harpy to drop me up there again
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>>343571583
PLS
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>>343571774
>quick
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I'm really sad about how small the game is. I explored a lot before even being given the wyrm hunt quest and opened up 90% of the map and killed 90% of the fauna, and when I look at the global map, I see there's no real new areas awaiting.
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>>343571583
How different is it to the single player game?
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>>343572521
How the fuck would i know? I don't know moonrunes and i'm sure as shit not going to play through a fucking proxy.
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>>343572692
Calm down.
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>>343569837
>not playing as casca and having guts as a pawn

please.
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>mage pawn keep spamming lightning magic to stun cyclops
>I can't do shit because I can't get the helmet off while it's stunned
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>>343572521
More similar than different, only the central hub city is full of other players running around, while the world is instanced to just you & your party. Stats & levels are on a per-vocation basis which is nice. The major mechanical differences are more to do with the addition of systems like crafting and a system of area rank that allows you to access more dungeons and enemies by doing quests in the region.
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Who /Rand Al Thor character/ here?
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>>343573117
Are Hunters like Rangers, Striders or a different take on a Yellow vocation? I see they can climb trees which would have been neat in DD
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>>343572493
You're not wrong. Everyone was disappointed with half the map screen being basically filled with unclimbable mountains. Thankfully there is BBI at least.
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>>343563926
>they already reskinned the Elder Dragon
classic Capcom
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>>343573296
It's a pure ranged class, so closest to Ranger I guess
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>>343572493
Maybe you shouldn't have done that then.
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Fucking hell now I want to play DDO.
You have to play it through a proxy right? Does anyone here play it currently?
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>>343573671
It looks like most of the people in this thread don't play it.
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>>343573602
"that" what, played the game? Sure.
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>>343573671
ask /pso2g/
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>>343573671
there's a subreddit with a quick guide to getting started
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>>343564252
>I play tons of RPGs (Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Witcher)
>the combat that everyone seems to be praising is actually quite basic and boring.
If reincarnation is a thing, I hope this fucker's reborn as grass so he can become the cow's shit that he is.
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>>343553147
is that a mod to make the game look better?
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>>343574145
Explored the whole game before doing anything
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WHY DOES CAPCOM HAVE A FETISH FOR KEEPING GAMES AWAY FROM US
WHERE'S DGS
WHERE'S GK2
WHERE'S DDO
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>343573490
Well the vocation character looks cute, that alone makes me want to play DD again but this can't be replicated in DD:DA
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thinking about getting this game. how is the PC port and is it playable with a keyboard or should I just plug in a controller?
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>>343575094

Controller.
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>>343575094
It's ok with a keyboard, but better with a controller.
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>>343574746
Maybe they just dont like westerners.
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>>343575094
PC port is just the game with all expansions and better graphics.
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>tons of adds to rent my pawn for free
>most people use it for the whole game since she's 200
>5 stars and more RC than I could ever use

feels good man
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>>343564082
>those sphinx titties
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>>343575590
>Make a Male Pawn
>0 Rents

>Switch to Female
>30 Rents tons of gifts and 5 star ratings
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>>343575493
That must be the cast, since they keep teasing us with games then don't release follow up or spin off titles because "muh lack of audience"
I can sort of understand DDO since I doubt that would have a big playerbase in the west, but it's still incredibly annoying when there's nothing else DD related going on.
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>>343567738

>if RNGesus loves you

it's really easy to get the ring if you've already been there my dude
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>>343575814

I also made a guide for beginners

I'm glad almost everyone liked the port
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>>343574968
The DDO character creator is basically just an expanded version of the DD one, it's great for making QTs of all kinds.
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>>343575493
>Maybe they just dont like westerners.
they're just incompetent. Also, greedy. You can't buy DD:DA on steam in japan for example. Japanese studios are frightened and confused by the modern games environment
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>>343553298
why won't they localize it anyway?
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>>343576495
Protectionism?
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>>343576313
The one that made >>343566579 ? I like that my picture was used for Mystic Knight

>>343576361
I can make pretty good faces in DD's, at least I think they're good.
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>>343576414

Japan is (at times) best part of a decade behind the west for the vidya. The embrace of the internet came a lot more slowly for japan as far as vidya goes as well as the concept of patching.
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>>343576495
The same reason they won't localise dai gyakuten saiban or gyakuten kenji: they can't be fucked when their main audience, Japan, is already catered to.
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>>343576686
Most of the improvements are quality of life features; saving & loading designs, previewing characters in different lighting conditions,and even an undo button
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>>343576686

Nah my guide is garbage compared to that

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=602940545

It's really nothing special, I was just tired of seeing "WOW MY PAWNS ARE RETARDED" in the discussions
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>>343576919
I'd like to see the new armors
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anyone else get a boner when you get swallowed by a hydra

asking for a friend
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>>343558383
>Capcom keeps pushing games nobody wants
>Ignores the games that sell

For what raisin?
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>>343557128
I agree with everything but the world, it's one of the few open worlds that doesn't have the majority of the landmass on the same level.
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>>343557992
It's pretty forgivable since the devs are Japanese. But I'd be pretty mad if they won't change the artstyle in a sequel.
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>>343553147
Because people have shitty taste and actually like garbage like Skyrim. Yes if it ever happens.
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>>343577150
My friend said he did. Personaly I think it's disguisting haha
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>>343557992
some very early concept art was closer to mh mixed with their dnd arcade games, but it looks like they moved for a more subdued style early in production
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>>343578609
the concept art for the area you fight the Red Dragon in has a Crimson Fatalis

DD looks like it was a second attempt at MH's original vision of being high fantasy instead of shonen
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>>343578396
haha i know it's gross haha just curious you know haha :)

haha
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>>343578609
Is that fucking Leo?
>Capcom still remembers Red Earth
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>>343578835
bit of a shame, as it is dd has good art but none of it really stands out or is that memorable.
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>>343578609
Why were we deprived of buff lion man.
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>>343558383
>The PC release though did push it over 2 million units sold, and Capcom has gone on record saying that they will only continue making games in a series that has sold over 2 million units per iteration
Capcom has active series that have never even sold 1 million per iteration. Ono obviously just pulled a random number out of his ass for the sake of conversation, there is no one fixed sales goal that every single game has to meet.
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>>343557992
I liked the aesthetics of Dragon's Dogma, had a real strong Surcoat game.
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>>343578967
this was in dark arisen too
>A belt worn by an eliminator. The relic of a king who was cursed to live as a lion, it boosts the wearer´s ability to stagger his opponents.
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I gave DD about 5 hours and I can honestly claim that I didn't enjoy any of it

I don't enjoy games with the camera behind the player unless that control method is an integral part of the gameplay (dark souls, arkham)

I didn't enjoy the absolutely horrible follower system

I didn't enjoy the shitty 'stop everything and have this fucking conversation or cutscene' that millenials seem to have no problem enduring

I didn't enjoy how easy it was

I very much enjoyed the little village you started in, but that atmosphere just isn't enough to carry such a shitty console-style game
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>>343579206
>stop everything and have this fucking conversation or cutscene' that millenials seem to have no problem enduring
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>>343579205
It's so surprising to me that they threw in homages to Red Earth since it was Capcom's biggest arcade blunders despite being an amazing game with God tier sprite-work
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>>343565043

You need to unlock combos at at an Inn, kind of like DMC.
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Dragon's Dogma had the bad luck to come out juuuuuuuust as every was burnt out on dark souls. While DD is a different game people still compared the two and it resulted in a lukewarm reception.

DD:DA on consoles was still plagued by this to a degree despite some time passing but the PC release hit at the right time. Its a flawed game make no mistake but its flaws are easily forgiven as the game clearly has that je ne se quois - that something that seperates the technically accomplished from the great. DD:DA is one of those games that goes down as cult classic - flawed but a game people replay every year or so because it draws the player in just enough to incite another playthrough, even if the first playthrough is not an extensive one.

To a point this avoids classic burning out on a game, but equally it does not lead to immediate hype.
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Do we finally have a berserk mods or what?
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>>343579953
>burnt out on dark souls
That never happened
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post your arisen and pawn
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>>343573490

Does DDO have an IP block?
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>>343580562
You need a VPN to play it IIRC
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>>343580562
it's a jap MMO, take a guess

either wait for a chinese/korean release or use third-party tools
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>>343580562
Yes, but it's easily bypassed. A VPN is needed to log in but doesn't need to be left running after that
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>>343580283

It may have been DSII - point is dragon's dogma came at the wrong time to the market and suffered for it.
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>>343557128
Witcher 3 share all those cons and has shit combat but is loved though
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>>343581756
No it doesn't. Witcher's story and everything in that aspect is fantastic. The only bad thing about the game is that the combat is shit.
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>>343582518
Rangers no longer get to be machine guns
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>>343581756
That's not true at all and you know it. Stop being a contrarian, it's okay to like a bad game. It doesn't need to be "good"
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>>343582518
NEVER EVER
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>>343580838
It came out in 2012 at first, not eve the PC release of Dark Souls was out yet. Dark Arisen game out in 2013, just when DS2 was announced. You can't be burbg out over 2 games.
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Why does /v/ give this game a pass despite it's massive flaws, but games like phantom pain get ridiculed endlessly?
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>>343582518
new class or just new abilities for sorcerer?
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Literally the hottest and sexiest, also the best, Arisen.
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>>343553147
The fact that /v/ likes Memon's Dogema is what really made me understand how shit taste you faggots have. That game is a fucking travesty, bought it because every damn day i saw everyone masturbating over this game and i played it for almost 2 hours and refunded the shit out of it, so glad i did.
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>>343582878
Because it's not super popular with established expectations going in.
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>>343583209
I bet your favourite game is awful.
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>>343583106

green eyes are awesome

Do you have the template ?
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>>343583106
if you find FAS attractive then I can't stop you
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>>343582971
Sorc skill. All classes in DDO have some form of new skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XsBcE9V0XA
>Fucking warrior has Dire Gouge called Great Fang Gouge
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>>343582872

You under estimate autism. Burnout is easily accomplished when you have a year to speg out over a single game.

Make no mistake I rated dragons dogma highly, but at the time it was in that weird niche given the arks souls hype train was in full force transitioning between games.
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>>343583354
They made Warrior actually fun to play as. Now all they need to do is do the same for Sorcerer and Mage.
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>>343583354
noice, i might dust off my old sorc then
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>>343583209
>garbage combat that has no impact at all
>graphics straight out of the dark ages
>the blandest and most boring video game world i've ever seen
>story doesn't make any sense, but what can you expect from japs.
>shitty character creation
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