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What class are you maining for Legion? Will you raid or PvP?
windwalker monk
both
>tfw bought WoD due to hype at launch and haven't even played it
>haven't even played pandaria either
>will probably do the same with legion
i am the best of goys
I was thinking Hunter, but apparently they've been butchered beyond belief.
>>343534425
how do you get hype about something but then not play it whatsoever?
>>343533089
The uninstall wizard
>>343535003
this
>>343533089
>Black Temple and Frostwolf keep no longer hub cities, just quest locations you visit once.
>New faction cities are copy pastes of the 4.1 krasarang wilds faction bases in ashran, an island in bumfuck nowhere
>Garrisons only in one zone now, no longer customization, no longer lets you name npcs, no longer has skill boosts, is just a daily quest hub phased to you.
>average class goes from 40 spells to 7
>no new skeletons or animations, literally every creature in the expansion is a remodelled creature.
>portions of entire zones are copy pasted from the BC devset
>the rest are not flying compatible and have 2d jpg mountains -now you know why shamans had far sight and hunters had eagle vision removed.
>now only 4 dungeons from level 90-100
>client code for garrison cash shop functionality discovered, quickly removed along with tweet mentioning it from cory stockton
>less raid content at launch than any expansion
>less dungeons than cataclysm had in PATCHES
>story is a barely canon side timeline alternate dimension just to give another enemy to fight while trying to lure in veterans with nostalgia and a 'veterans first!" beta access program
>almost all CC removed in pvp. totally removed in pve
>adding healing and tanking npcs in quests
>Heirloom and tabard storage tab just cut until "later"
>replacing quests with "dynamic, interactive world experiences" that appear once and when you do them disappear leaving huge swathes of zones empty.
>new models have a single face and the cosmetic choices in almost every model but undead simply adds a new texture to said single face.
>80% of announcements from blizzcon for the expansion are confirmed cut or extremely truncated in some way.
only a retard would buy this shit
>>343534586
Survival actually looks fun.
good luck getting a spot tho as a melee hunter kek.
Prot Warrior for raids
Arms for PVP
>>343533089
Either Arms Warrior or just be a scrub and play Demon Hunter.
PvP
Druid Feral
Mage Fire
Fuck Raiding
>>343535039
>almost all CC removed in pvp. totally removed in pve
At least they got something right. Hard CC in PvP is insanely imbalanced and OP and should be reworked entirely, if not removed.
>>343534871
well i was about to play WoD but then i noticed i had exams in like 2 weeks so i held off
then i wasn't home for quite a while and then i heard the game is shit so i just lost interest
ill probably play a month this summer with that free pass they were giving out during warcraft moviepandaria i bought just a week ago for ~$9 just to have the box because it was missing from my collection
>>343533089
Thinking about MW Monk or Resto Druid.
>>343535039
>>80% of announcements from blizzcon for the expansion are confirmed cut or extremely truncated in some way.
>>Heirloom and tabard storage tab just cut until "later"
they can't keep getting away with this
>>343535269
>tfw in all the years I played WoW I never got into raiding and just did PVP
I don't know how people can do those same raids over and over again, it fucking seems monotonous to me.
WPVP and arena were the shit.
>>343533089
>raid
>get locked into a spec because of artifact power
>pvp
>enjoy your rng loot boxes
>>343533089
I'm only getting it to play with friends... hopefully. It happens every time though they want to play together every weekend but then only a couple times then nothing. Going to run demon hunter for sure but I have my do I'm leveling right now. Thinking about raiding.
>>343535615
*my DK
>>343535534
I guess its fun for the first playthrough because of the lore and story stuff, but WoWs story is garbage now anyways and i hate grinding
I always turn off my computer when i see a blue question mark
>>343535569
>Not already knowing your spec is shit
>>343535039
It's a game I only have to pay $50 every 2 years to play to keep content coming.
Sounds like a fair deal than just buying new MMO shit on a whim to see if its good.
>>343535039
I don't understand. Are they just shoving the proper game development onto their interns while they all suck each other off in the storage room? How do they get away with this?
>>343535569
I don't care since I'm only maining best class and nothing else.
>>343535967
>Invest in a good spec
>It's nerfed into the ground
>>343535039
Why are you posting about WoD?
>>343533089
Warlock. Why would you choose anything else?
Paladin and RogueRP
>>343536215
Warlocks are boring as fuck
>>343536189
Artifacts were a mistake.
>>343536568
That's funny. I find all other classes boring.
>>343535534
>I don't know how people can do those same raids over and over again, it fucking seems monotonous to me.
>Same thing over and over again, monotonous
Funny coming from a minigame player
>>343533089
Fury Warrior, Raiding and Mythic+
>>343533089
frost mage with glacial spike is the only good mage spec.
>all these questers in Alt draenor right now out of nowhere
What the fuck? Why do people resub right before an expansion drops to fucking level?
>>343537814
to get ready for the event welfare gear maybe? I'm not sure maybe they want to finish stuff before they remove it.
>buying any exp
>after mop and wod
lets not do the same shit mistake a third time
>>343537987
>mop
>bad
lmao @ ur life nerd
>>343537814
so they don't miss out on the ebig peak questing fun times when it drops?
>>343537814
>wait 2 years after legion is release
>sub
>do all of LFR
>unsub
i'm sure i would have more fun that way than spending hours every week trying to find pugs
and no . i'm not into having a second job
>>343536189
>>343536613
>>343535569
This might be a problem with the first raid tier, but by the second most people are probably going to have their specs maxed out.
Either way its mostly just a problem for pure dpsers. Hybrid master-race won't have to worry about it because if their dps spec is shit it's not like they can do anything about it anyways.
>>343533089
I will not buy that shit, just fuck off nigger, sorry about the n word didnt mean to say that I apologize
>>343538102
>nerd
2003 called
they want you back furry faggot
>>343538258
>This might be a problem with the first raid tier, but by the second most people are probably going to have their specs maxed out.
They are probably going to add new shit with every patch to the artifacts.
>>343538318
>being this mad
hahaa this fucking nerd
>>343536637
It's almost as if people have different tastes
BC > Vanilla > WotLK = MoP > Dogshit > Cata > WoD
As a beta fag, Legion will probably be as good as MoP, or just above dogshit depending on how they drop the ball with content patches, my opinions are facts.
>>343538526
Your opinion is dogshit.
True, objective list is as follows:
Wrath > BC > MoP > Vanilla > Cata > WoD
>>343538354
>mad
>>343538481
that's impossible.
>>343538663
>Wrath
stopped reading right there tbqh, Wrathbabbies made the bed that is modern WoW. I wouldn't be surprised if, despite this, you went on to rank the natural progression of the Wrathbabby mindset (WoD) as the lowest. How are Wrathbabies capable of lacking this much self-awareness?
>>343538526
>9 spells per class including your hearthstone, potions, mounts and gadgets binded on ur actionbars
>it'll be better than cata guys trust me Im a veteran
Legion is DoA because of the butchered class gameplay
>>343538307
Stupid nigger
>tfw 11 tomes
>not sure if I'll complete it before pre-patch drops
>>343533089
Druid Feral/Resto
PvP
>>343540179
next week you'll have 8
and after that you'll be 10/11
enjoy RNG
>>343533089
From what I hear, Assassination is going to be the go to for raiding, so I might switch from Sub on my Rogue. I heard Outlaw is too unreliable to be useful. I'll probably also Do both on my Fury/Prot warrior and DPS on my Demon Hunter
>>343540179
the prepatch is not going to remove the quest btw, new people won't be able to take it but you will be able to finish it.
>>343536129
>NElf
>>343540647
are you sure?
>>343540740
best combination, you're an insecure child who bought into the "lol nelfs are gay XD" meme
>>343540829
>are you sure?
Yes.
>>343540829
I think you misunderstand.
I more accurately meant
>NElf instead of BElf
>>343540740
>nelf
more like
>male nelf
>playing a blood elf ever
Kill urself
>>343533089
I will raid but I'm not 100% sure which class I will roll.
I will wait with the decision until 7.0 comes to the live serves.
The classes I'm most interested are:
Vengeance Demon Hunter
Warrior Arms/Prot
Warlock Demo/affli
Shaman Ele/Enhance
>>343541098
>look at me, I play a female character, doesn't that make me mature? xD
also
Don't mind me, just playing BElf because they have the objectively better activated racial. AoE silence/interrupt that generates resources for free? Yes please.
>>343535039
nice WoD pasta
(you)
So on PTR I can rape anyone with affliction on dps meters. Anyone in beta confirm that they are still good at 110?
![1354967201130[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K9M0cjS.jpg "1354967201130[1].jpg")
>>343541648
>not wanting to see Female Night Elf while playing WoW
>>343542259
On the Beta, "best spec" and numbers mean nothing, since the balance changes every week from new builds, and there's still another 2 months of tuning left to do.
That said, from what I've been seeing in Trade chat in this week's build, is that Demo is great, Aff is only alright, and Destro got destroyed.
>>343538526
Holy shit what a fucking retard
bc>vanilla=wotlk>cata>your opinion>mop>your opinion^5>wod
>>343542259
They're good, but 0 burst to speak of
>>343541648
>that generates resources for free
Here's the problem. It's on the GCD. For mana classes it's pointless, except for maybe a healer. Melee in PvP it's pretty good.
>>343539058
>stopped reading right there tbqh, Wrathbabbies made the bed that is modern WoW. I wouldn't be surprised if, despite this, you went on to rank the natural progression of the Wrathbabby mindset (WoD) as the lowest. How are Wrathbabies capable of lacking this much self-awareness?
Great post anon! Your insults are very arguments :D!
>How are Wrathbabies capable of lacking this much self-awareness?
Oh the irony....
Is there any point to resubbing before the expansion is out?
>>343543343
7.0
If you have pre ordered Legion you can play Demon Hunter before release and there will be a pre event for Legion.
>>343542590
>Here's the problem. It's on the GCD.
But it's not.
>>343542280
female nelfs looks like trannies in game.
>>343543487
I hope the demon hunters come out with the event.
>>343543487
Do we have an ETA for pre event? End of July?
>>343543695
End of July/First week of August is most likely
There's still a fuckload of bugs, some still regarding artifact traits and they haven't really even touched tuning passes yet
Balance Druid, I was thinking Fire Mage but after bumping my alt up from 70 to 100 I'm finding PvE in the Iron Docks pretty tough now, but maybe thats just an item level thing..
>>343543695
they just posted a reminder about how the challenge are going to be removed withing the next weeks so I think the 19 of july date is accurate.
>>343543695
No but it will be most likely 30th of July.
>>343533089
gonna roll ret as my main don't care if it's bullshit I finally get ashbringer without using tmorph
back up is prot or fury
Don't know.
Torn betwen ForstDK, EnSham, and RetPally.
Whatever doesn't get mained, will get alt'd.
>>343539073
>people still believe the "class abilities are butchered" meme
man maybe someone playng the beta knows more about the game than you do anon
>>343545859
not him but meme as much as you want faggot he is right about this
go check the ptr if you don't believe it
>>343545948
This is true.
Though it effects some classes more then others.
Some classes work better with less buttons.
Others are just so fucking boring.
>>343543815
>and they haven't really even touched tuning passes yet
And they won't. Everyone saying how a class is broken but will be fixed has never been here at the start of an expansion. There is ALWAYS at least 2 classes that are so fucking broken at the beginning.
>>343543339
The overt casualization and increase in popularity during that expansion really don't lie. It is the only reason this meteoric downfall was possible. Just to let you know, if you weren't obviously upset by the insult (you were) there was plenty to argue against in my post.
Despite being a proud supporter of the expansion which essentially prioritized new user experience over anything else, you fail to see the connection between that and WoD which was a textbook deconstruction of the genre in favor of the same mass appeal to new players.
You're also a faggot.
Man, i was cautiously optimistic about Legion but the last pvp Q&A video just annoyed the shit out of me. Holinka is completely and utterly clueless.
Ashran was complete garbage but by far the fastest way to gear up, so people suffer through it. I KNEW he would use those numbers as "people liked Ashran".
Fucking more lockboxes. PVP templates not working out in the world. Tanks in pvp are apparently way too difficult to balance.
Participation in rated arena or rbgs was lower than TBC levels during WoD. You would think that would be a wake-up call but it appears they've given up.
WPVP will be garbage for anyone not in mythic gear or decked with legendaries with goofy gimmick procs, and rated arena/rbg is going to be a cesspool of turbo-tier mongo'ing. In addition i hope everyone is excited for triple blood dk being tops in 3s.
Seriously, I know I'm being a faggot, but Holinka and his one huge arm is a complete idiot.
>>343547231
To add to that, while I'm already being a bitch:
>There is a group of people that has a full time job of reviewing player actions and punishing cheaters.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA
Out of all of the lies, this is by far the best one.
>Demon Hunter questline
>Choose to sacrifice yourself for a ritual
>Illidan explains corpse running as having an immortal demon soul
>yfw the player characters are already demons
>>343547687
Yeah this new generation of dhs are not like the old dhs they are hardcore and shit. Probably inspired by illidan.
>>343547231
That's a pretty impressive dislike bar.
>>343547936
It's just silly. i know lol-mini-games, blah blah, but WoD pvp was terrible. Obviously just my opinion, but the mass exodus of rated players should show that it's a pretty common feeling.
Instead of correcting their mistakes it feels like they double down on the stupid. I do wonder if it's a personality thing (Holinka is notorious for responding negatively to even polite constructive criticism) or if the pvp team is really that incompetent.
>>343535039
this is how legion will end up
>>343548631
Legion is already a million times better than WoD. Whether it actually has any endgame content is another thing.
>>343548631
not really I mean, have you seen the list of removed things from wod? not to mention most of the stuff in that list are lies.
>>343548789
>>343548969
yeah nah, im not believing anything they say anymore so fuck off
>a little better than the worst expansion ever
>million times better
>>343548969
As far as I know everything in that list except the single face and removal of pvp cc are completely true. The single face thing IS true but that's also how they did it with the old models.
>>343533089
I will continue to main an unsubscribed priest like I have since the game went to complete shit in Cata.
>>343549381
>a little better than the worst expansion ever
if at all
>>343549381
But the problems that plagued WoD don't exist in Legion so far. The only big problems are ability pruning and garrison missions. But the garrison missions aren't as lucrative as they were in WoD.
Mage for content raiding.
Frost DK for Pvp.
Prot Paladin for pussy.
>>343548789
>Legion is already a million times better than WoD
Really?
I'm hopeful too, but it looks further dumbed down and a bit like "throwing everything at the screen" to get players back.
More pruning.
Demon Hunters are dumb once you get bored of double jump.
Havoc spec can LITERALLY be played on an xbox controller. This is not an exaggeration.
(I actually suspect a console WoW release is coming anyhow)
I do like the story so far, even if a lot of it is shock value. But at least it seems like a fun progression. Plus the zones look pretty cool. WoD questing was fun too. And raids were pretty good, at least mythic. It was the rest that was dogshit and I am concerned it could be the same path for Legion.
...but at least we'll have new pets to battle with in pet battles!
>>343549668
>so far
it didnt exists before wod release as well
>>343549384
the krasang thing is a lie, the 40 spells to 7 is a lie no one fucking had so many spells not even in fucking vanilla, there are new skeletons, the portion part is also a lie they modify most of the bc zones, everything is flying compatible I mean you can fly right now and see it, garrison cash shop is a lie, "story is barely canon" faggots from 4chan don't decide what's canon and what isn't, the removel of cc in pvp is also a lie I mean you can blind, gouge, sap and other shit people, heirloom tab is a thing and well the tabard thing is right but is coming in legion.
The rest is right.
Unholy DK, gonna raid like a bro.
>>343549381
People said WoD was good in beta and very early launch too, remember that however bad it looks now it's only going to get worse. And Legion already looks worse.
>even more cinematic experience singleplayer quest bullshit
>everything is tuned for solo play
>zone progression is gone because everything is level scaled
>only being able to use one weapon per spec the entire expansion
>grindy weapon upgrades heavily tied to new garrison missions
>massive ability prune
>bringing illidan back to life and retconning the shit out of bc
>demon hunters are going to be broken and everyone is going to be playing one just like death knights were
>legendaries are random world drops now
>>343534586
Surv is fun as fuck and quite solid, the problem is we will have so many melees now with the addition of Dh too
>>343533089
Lock
PvE, but I also like to do 2s and 3s with guildies
>>343550119
>>zone progression is gone because everything is level scaled
>>only being able to use one weapon per spec the entire expansion
>>grindy weapon upgrades heavily tied to new garrison missions
>>massive ability prune
All wrong
>>343550119
>bringing illidan back to life and retconning the shit out of bc
Nothing is retconned.
>demon hunters are going to be broken and everyone is going to be playing one just like death knights were
Warriors and mages are broke, dhs are balanced.
>>343550119
>zone progression is gone because everything is level scaled
u sure? thats stupid as fuck why would they do that?
>>343549965
krasang bases weren't copy pasted but they were completely made from reused assets
look at some of the rotations in legion, some of them are that low
barely any new skeletons, the majority of enemies used recycled ones
they did modify bc zones, go look at some of the alpha maps
there was stuff datamined for garrison cash shops but nobody knows how much it was done and according to devs it was experimental
story was barely canon because it was an alternate timeline so very few things that happened on draenor have any effect on our timeline
>>343550338
no it's not.
Are you even in beta?
Tell me how any of that is wrong. Please. Not talking shit, I've been in beta for awhile and i feel like those are all true. It could be we're interpreting shit differently.
I'm not the dude you're replying to, if that matters.
>>343546996
WoD mythic raids are so much harder than the raids from Vanilla and Bc and you are talking about casualization?
>You're also a faggot.
WEW LAD
>>343550373
>Nothing is retconned.
BC Illidan wasn't evil but a misunderstood hero who was able to make the hard choices.
>>343550537
>krasang bases weren't copy pasted but they were completely made from reused assets
You're right but like the other post say is not copypasted from krasang.
>look at some of the rotations in legion, some of them are that low
Some are worst but is not 40 to 7 buttons and he is talking about wod not legion.
>barely any new skeletons, the majority of enemies used recycled ones
He said NO NEW SKELETONS, even if there was only 1 new he is wrong.
>they did modify bc zones, go look at some of the alpha maps
I know that's what I said because he said everything is a copypaste.
>there was stuff datamined for garrison cash shops but nobody knows how much it was done and according to devs it was experimental
Yeah he is lying.
>story was barely canon because it was an alternate timeline so very few things that happened on draenor have any effect on our timeline
Is still canon.
>>343550783
BC Illidan was evil, he was killing and enslaving people, old illidan was evil he betray his people and gave the dragon soul to azshara, however legion is actually making him a misunderstood hero who did bad things for the greater good.
>>343550765
I'm in beta, and those are wrong or just shit opinions because
Level scaling solves leveling zones never being touched/relevant again besides for gathering
Only being able to use one weapon is great, helps much frustration in raiding guilds, t. mythic raider.
The weapon being heavily tied to """garrison""" missions is an outright lie, they're more tied to class quests than anything
The ability prune is a overexaggerated meme
>>343550965
Everything he did in BC was apparently to fight off the legion and in Legion there's some bullshit about you having to atone for killing him because apparently he did nothing wrong.
>>343551103
>Everything he did in BC was apparently to fight off the legion and in Legion
That's because he was acting as envoy for kiljaeden but he failed and he was coming back for revenge and he did many wrong things like killing innocent people and turning the broken into slaves.
>>343551084
>Only being able to use one weapon is great, helps much frustration in raiding guilds, t. mythic raider.
Arent there some kind runes that upgrade the item level of your artifact weapon?
>>343538102
>mop
>good
That shit was dull.
>>343551084
how does level scaling even work? lets say lv 70 and lv20 are in party together, they enter zone and what happens? what lvl does mobs have?
>>343551394
level scaling only works in the new continent.
>>343551084
>Level scaling solves leveling zones never being touched/relevant again besides for gathering
So you admit it's true but you like it so that makes it okay.
>Only being able to use one weapon is great, helps much frustration in raiding guilds, t. mythic raider.
See above
>The weapon being heavily tied to """garrison""" missions is an outright lie, they're more tied to class quests than anything
And class quests are heavily tied to the new class garrisons and mission table
>The ability prune is a overexaggerated meme
Tell that to all the people on the official forum complaining about how dull their classes are now.
>>343551084
he's not wrong because you disagree, you weirdo.
Zone progression IS gone. Everything is scaled. I don't care how much you think it's a good idea, he wasn't wrong.
He wasn't wrong about only being able to use one weapon. Class quests ARE the garrison quests. I admit they are far less shitty than WoD garrisons but it's still required for your weapon shit. You can NOT skip the order hall stuff.
Most of the pruning was already done, honestly. it's just further pruning that gets people riled up. it's not even necessary at this point.
Again, you disagreeing doesn't make him wrong. All of what was quoted was absolutely correct.
DESU I'm more annoyed by being restricted to one weapon than anything but I can live. Just feels boring. I know experimenting in WoW is long gone but it really sucks they are so gung ho about 'this is how you play this spec, no exceptions".
>>343551583
>See above
so only using one weapon is bad because you don't like it?
>>343533089
probably Unholy Death Knight or Assassin Rogue, assuming I even play it
>>343551583
t. Shit opinions
>>343551453
lol
>Level scaling solves leveling zones never being touched/relevant again besides for gathering
so what problems does it solve if its only for few zones? what about barrens? elvyn forest? this sounds retarded and unnecessary
>>343551583
What is your problem with zones that are scaling with your level?
>And class quests are heavily tied to the new class garrisons and mission table
The problem with the garrison in Wod was that you had nothing to do outside of them.
>>343551607
>You can NOT skip the order hall stuff.
So you shitters complain there is nothing to do in WoD, and now you complain that you actually have to do stuff?
Got it
>>343551792
I don't understand wht you're trying to say, I'm telling you that shit only works in the new continent.
>>343551685
What's wrong with not wanting one of three items to be necessary to play the game and never being able to not use them? Getting new items has always been a part of the game.
>>343551774
t. Dank memes instead of arguments
>Falling for the marketer hype
>AGAIN
Nope. Blizzard is the NC Soft of America. Fuck you and fuck Blunderwatch threads shilling that shit game.
>>343551992
>So you admit it's true but you like it so that makes it okay.
Well that's what you said but in reverse, you don't like it so is bad?
>>343552139
I don't like it because it's stripping away a feature that has always been in the game and replacing it with nothing which is bad.
>>343551992
>Well that's what you said but in reverse, you don't like it so is bad?
You can increase the item level of your weapon with runes also you are able to unlock different weapon skins.
>>343552217
Is bad in your opinion so it doesn't really count according to your own post.
I'm a faggot and pre-ordered a long time ago, so I don't have some goofy agenda.
But seriously, is this thread full of shills or are many of you literally ok with so much of this? Some of Legion sounds fun but a lot feels like hot garbage. Many posters here are sucking it's cock and it's alarming.
Keep in mind WoD looked great as well, but a big red flag was the various issues that were brought up in beta and flat out ignored. Legion is floating on along the same path right now and realistically 99% of the xpac is set in stone at this point. We're going to get tuning and number changes but not a lot of mechanic adjustments at this point. Several specs have some fairly alarming issues at the moment. Others, yeah, are pretty fucking solid.
Genuinely just curious. I assumed the blizzdrone thing was a meme. It's ok to like a product overall but still be critical of elements within it.
Also this guy:
>>343551774
Complete faggot.
>>343552126
Can you delete this please.
>>343533089
>>343535294
removing cc kills pvp. i know everyone here doesn't really pvp, but if you remove cc, all you have left is 2 teams pve'ing each other down, which is not indicative of skill.
having the brains to stop cc and use your own while also maximizing damage should be what makes a good pvper. not this turbo/lsd/wwdk/jungle/rethunter/fls healer-rushing bullshit we have now, and will be 10x worse in legion.
if you think otherwise, you probably only played pvp because it helped you slay dragons harder for some quest you had to do and never picked it back up.
also, killing pvp kills wow from twitch, since that's what the top wow streamers like sodapoppin, watchmeblink, and reckful used to do, and got famous from. cdew, jahmilli and pikaboo barely keep it alive, maybe even snutz and maldiva. but it definitely took a nosedive with wod's pruning.
>>343552337
>It's ok to like a product overall but still be critical of elements within it.
Sure but I haven't seen a real critic here. X is bad because is say so and meme post like this >>343535039 are not real critics.
>>343552326
Is bad because of a fact which you can observe. Taking something away and replacing it with nothing is bad, this is a fact.
>>343552424
No. :^)
Want to start playing this before Legion, but can't decide on a class or faction.
Was thinking maybe warrior, paladin, rogue or mage. Maybe warlock?
Completely new so i won't have anything fancy to work with.
>>343552610
I beg you stop.
>tfw you're spoiled by more action based MMORPGs and you can't get back into WoW anymore
>>343550775
>defending WoD when your own post has it listed last out of all the expansions
Not only do you lack any self awareness, you're also schizophrenic?
>>343552712
Fuck all that, go Shaman
>great melee DPS
>solid ranged DPS
>good heals
>nature n' shit
>super cool spell effects
It seems like you're really on the fence, and it seems for me at least the best of what other classes have to offer
>>343552519
Not really, I like it so is your opinion not a fact.
>>343551945
im still not sure how does level scaling work tbqh, im reading some sites but i still cant get answer what happens if lvl 100 and 109 are in party and doing q together
>>343552823
I hope Blizzcucks enjoy their "victory" over Battleborn. It's the only victory they will ever enjoy, as every other genre completely shits over their casual baby garbage.
>>343553124
The 109 hits the mob as if the mob is level 109. The level 100 hits the mob as it the mob is level 100.
>>343553108
Video games are built on their content
Content is removed and nothing is added back in its place
The game now has less content, this is a bad thing
>>343553343
Is not less content you upgrade that weapon during the whole game, like I said is your opinion not a fact.
>>343553417
Upgrading individual weapons is nothing new to the game, enchants and gems have existed for a while and they added actual weapon upgrading in MoP or WoD. They removed the ability to acquire new weapons and replaced it with absolutely nothing thereby removing content from the game which is bad, this is a fact.
>>343553582
This is a new kind of upgrading not like gems and enchanting and a whole new system and no is not a fact.
>>343552712
I only can advise you to try out what you want to play(don't waste your level 100 upgrade too soon). Only important is that you play on server with a population of at least middle.
After you have chosen the server look in the server forum if the majority of guilds are looking for players of the faction you want to play.
>>343552954
>Not only do you lack any self awareness, you're also schizophrenic?
Holy shit you idiot I wasn't the same person you replied. Also only because WoD was overall a shitty expansion doesn't mean that the raids were shit.
Please stop posting if you only want to cry about your daddy issues.
>>343553582
Your bad opinion still isn't a fact
>>343553686
It is not a fact that they removed the ability to get new weapons outside the three or four artifacts your class is stuck with for the entire expansion?
>>343533089
>BM Hunter
>Arcane Mage
>Destro Warlock
Because I'm too chicken to play melee, tank, or heal.
>>343535569
Artifact knowledge via your class hall makes it easier to get your first gold trait for all your artifacts. I think either right at or a little after that first gold trait the AP costs start to jump to like 6k. Before that each trait cost goes like 300>325>350>etc.
>>343552126
Oh god that's so rich.
>Solid PvP lead Brian Holinka
>More patch content than ever before promised
>New BGs
Holy shit that's funny to read.
>>343553847
the nothing to replace is not a fact and that's what we are talking about and the fact that according to you is bad because you don't like it.
>>343554070
Legion shilling is even funnier.
>It's different this time you guys! Honest!
>>343552487
Yeah, I thought that was trolling, the whole point of PvP was cc management...
>>343554184
not as funny as your ugly face
>>343535294
>>343554114
There is nothing to replace it, being able to upgrade weapons is not new. It's bad because they removed content and put nothing back in. Most people didn't like garrisons but they aren't being completely removed because some people did and some of their features are being carried over to new things, this is not the case at all with weapons.
>>343538526
Pretty close.
BC > Vanilla > WotLK = MoP > WoD = Dogshit > Cata
>>343554438
this upgrade system is new and that's the replacement. It's not bad.
>>343554287
That's the wit I'd expect.
>>343533089
Unholy DK. Raiding and Mythic Dungeons. PvP up to Prestige 5 perhaps because of the nice artifact skin.
What a horrible MMORPG.
Back in the day, we played games like Ragnarok Online and Lineage 2. Now those were cool.
When are there going to be NA keys on g2a? Only been EU keys so far
>>343554510
It's not a replacement for a cut feature it's a continuation of systems that have always been in the game.
>>343554596
SAVAGE
Unholy DK
Might play a frost mage on and off, haven't decided yet
Raiding mostly
>>343554818
How so?
Holy Paladin; mostly pvp, might raid casually
>>343554908
your mom lel
>>343554878
>Windwaker shit
>>343555059
What?
Anyone play an Elemental Shaman in the ptr/beta?
Are they fun at all or should I just play a different caster class?
I don't value the game enough post Wotlk to justify the monthly payment and all the microtransactions. WoW should have been f2p years ago but I guess as long as Blizzard can keep cashing in on the goyim's addictions they'll keep getting away with it.
wait you can get 2250 pieces from boxes and pvp tanks are good? That's good news because I'm a pure casual now, I don't really want to find a team or play arena with my 1-yr-old next to me
>>343555080
>le WW is bad maymay
>>343555187
If you are interested in a detailed video here from preach gaming. He is a very experienced wow player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-4GuRPd9w
>>343555274
>Unneccessarily long travel times
>Triforce hunting
>Cutting "Real Hyrule"
>Worst 3D Zelda
no new bg maps, nigga just copy paste parts of the world and make 20 maps. I don't give a fuck if I quested there, I wanna see pvp in them
>>343555194
I think everyone at Activision and Blizzard might be retarded. I assume all the casual stuff like facebook game mechanics and microtransactions are from some suit wanting them to copy mobile games because of how successful they are but at the same time they try to make people buy expensive expansion packs and pay a sub. These two things will never work together, mobile games are only so successful because they're f2p.
>>343555381
>Preach
>Good
lmao
>>343555534
>meme
>meme
>meme
>double meme
If you don't think Windwaker is the tightest shit get out of my face
>canceled sub 5 months ago, wod sucked dick
>never canceled before
>see thread, maybe legion will be awesome!!!
>read thread
Thank you thread, no legion for me
>>343555351
ah wow anon ive never seen this before! thank you for sharing, i shall now post it in every thread about wow
>>343555617
why do you disagree?
>>343555381
>posting videos from the lowest of the lowest common denominator
>>343555543
>PvP'ers asking for palette swaps in BG's and arenas
you still have to pay 15/mo and the xpac doesnt give a free month, jesus you blizzdrones need to kys
>>343554809
Is a new system
>>343555667
>Can't even refute the arguments
>>343555704
Shut up bitch.
Has anybody played ele on beta? is the dmg decent or are we terrible?
>>343555839
>le girls are le bad
are you 8?
>>343555708
He's a has-been that is shit nowadays
>>343553702
>Holy shit you idiot I wasn't the same person you replied.
Why would you reply to a post without reading the reply chain, are you new here?
>Also only because WoD was overall a shitty expansion doesn't mean that the raids were shit.
I'm pretty sure your own post refutes that idea. You were talking about mythic raids only. You don't appear to be very intelligent.
![2c5c411deeadf582_anigif_optimized-17179-1429472131-13.xxxlarge[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/pbV0pZ8.gif "2c5c411deeadf582_anigif_optimized-17179-1429472131-13.xxxlarge[1].gif")
>>343555952
>He's a has-been that is shit nowadays
>>343555709
I only watch his class videos because he explains his opinions well.and not just saying >hur dur shit hur dur is good.
>>343533089
I've been thinking about arms warrior or frost teekay. I'm not sure though, I want a class that can do at least two roles for easy queues but I hated druid in wod and monk tanking was too focused on guard so I dropped them. I'm also bad at squishy classes and paladin is cancer so that really leaves only warrior and dk. Tanking as blood is the easiest since you don't have to call for externals on VoIP and just play like a dps but that arms looks sick.
I hate both unholy and fury though so if they become meta I will probably just run monk as long as their tanking becomes less dependent on resolve+guard. WW looks fun as fuck
I might have picked up my old main rogue but
>Not Ravenholdt
>Literally a fucking sewer
>PvP or raid
Raid obviously. WoW pvp is for 12 year olds.
>>343555839
holy shit.......... i havent seen this either
i'll post this too to wake up the sheeple
>Non 13/13 mythic raiders having opinions about raiding
>>343556562
He really is, he misses a lot of shit and doesn't understand some class specs AT ALL, but he only makes videos about that shit because jewtube money
>>343556683
to be fair 13/13 is pretty pointless at this point of the expansion.
>>343535039
What a load of bullshit. I hope kids on here don't take anything you said as fact. I am in the beta, and you're trolling like a fucking mongoloid. It's not amazing, but it's a huge improvement over WoD.
>>343556683
>niche no lifers thinking everything should cater to them
>>343556683
This always baffled me when I was playing. A lot of raiding opinions in WoTLK were held by people who did not raid. And usually they wanted stuff to be harder.
>>343535039
>waaah the game doesn't pander to me!
>>343556917
yep, most people bitching that the game is too easy is like 4/13 heroic or only got LFR done
>>343536006
>only 50 dollaroos huh
>>343556439
>I'm pretty sure your own post refutes that idea. You were talking about mythic raids only. You don't appear to be very intelligent.
Please show the part were I refute my opinion about raids in WoD.
>>343556917
>This always baffled me when I was playing. A lot of raiding opinions in WoTLK were held by people who did not raid. And usually they wanted stuff to be harder.
It's like the faggots talking about vanilla but they obviously never played it.
>>343541648
>Infinite stealth on demand
>Not the best racial ever
Plus the crit/haste and wisp passive is nice
I make every character a night elf if I can even though I hate nelf. There's so much you can cheese with shadowmeld, especially in PvP
>Drop aggro
>Bypass patrols
>Flag traps
>Ganking people near elites/quest mobs
>Escaping ganks if you can hide behind a tree or underwater
>>343552487
This. Countering CC with trinkets and CD's is a huge part of PvP. However there are a few things wrong with PvP.
Instead of taking all CC out of the game, how about balancing the fucking classes. DK's shouldn't have turbo regen with the power of a warrior. Resto Druids can be stopped with CC, but if you don't chain CC, they're back up to 100%. Hunters aren't really that bad, people are just mad because "OP crows."
>balance resto Druid so it's not the most OP healer
>nerf DK either give them a ton of damage and not huge regen, or give them moderate damage with good regen.
No class should have the best of both worlds, but it's been this way every expansion since Wrath. Half the classes are roll face, you don't even need to understand a rotation to kill things.
>>343556683
13/13 mythic, 1k mmr in pvp
>master pve content with predicted movements
>cant react in pvp
>>343557167
>It's like the faggots talking about vanilla but they obviously never played it.
These faggots are the worst
>MC was soooooo fucking epic dude!!!
When will these memes end
>>343556786
Okay that could be true. I'm only interested in the parts if a class is fun to play or not.
>>343556683
As a LFR troglodyte I demand access to the same content as you, by paying the subscription I am entitled to all content whenever it's convenient for me.
>>343557248
I don't play minigames son, that's why I didn't include it in the post
>>343557217
>Instead of taking all CC out of the game, how about balancing the fucking classes.
The ability prune is their idea of balancing the classes.
>>343557249
>MC was soooooo fucking epic dude!!!
>blizzard bring it back for the anniversary shit
>literally everyone hate it
epic indeed
>>343557154
see
>>343550775
>WoD MYTHIC raids are so much harder
then see
>>343553702
>only because WoD was overall a shitty expansion doesn't mean that the raids were shit
You really do seem to be very stupid. You actually had to specify in the first post to indicate you actually knew the truth (that mythic raids are the only ones worth noting) and even then you refute yourself in your desperate expansion damage control. Responding to posts without reading into the chain is one thing, but shilling like this is just pathetic.
>>343557268
FINALBOSSTV
Literally the only channel that gets the facts right on all classes, unless you got some autismo and can't watch anything more than a 10 minute video of that fag who can't even play the class or the specs he does "overviews" of
![2874191-wildstar[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cT5aCo8.jpg "2874191-wildstar[1].jpg")
>>343557428
>not bringing back 40 raids
What could go wrong?
>>343534586
ranged hunter is dope senpai
>>343533089
Probably my prot warrior or a demon hunter vengeance tank. Have any of you beta guys tried tanking as a demon hunter? How is it compared to warrior?
I will do both, but mostly PvE.
>>343557417
Which is a retarded idea. Just lower some of the values would take more time but make the classes still unique and interesting.
>>343533089
Can't really decide, was thinking a caster but with Legion becoming the Melee-pocalypse i might have to abandon that idea.
hahah, that thread
> paid marketer got banned for 7 days
> he's back with same op pic name and same text
Its worse than EA confirmed marketers on /v/
>>343558291
you don't want to play melee in legion.
>>343557428
>mfw all the groups wiping on fucking decade old raid mechanics during the MC anniversary thing
>people still play retail in 2016
kill yourself
>>343557516
>The overt casualization
WoD mythic raids are so much harder than the raids from Vanilla and Bc and you are talking about casualization?
>defending WoD when your own post has it listed last out of all the expansions
because WoD was overall a shitty expansion doesn't mean that the raids were shit.
Where do I refute myself?
>>343558486
go sign a petition cuck
>>343558359
could u extrapolate
>>343558486
you can always go back to nostalrius for that authentic vanilla experience
wait...
>>343536771
But you're wrong. PvP is different every game, because you're dealing with people.
>>343558359
I'm going to guess from how heavily oversatured melee will be due to both melee being improved for most classes and everyone and their mother playing Demon Hunter?
Biggest problem is casters are going to be stuck standing still.
>>343558993
>Different every game
>Capture the flag/KotH
>>343557530
At the moment I'm only interested if a class is fun to play or not. The problem is that Legion is still in the Beta which means that many things can change before release. That's why I'm not watching a very detailed one our video about one(!) spec.
>>343557352
>"PVP is a minigame"
>living in an age where people think an MMO can thrive on its PVE alone
