now that our boy Mcree got nerfred there's literally no one left that can counter these 2.
just shoot them, they aren't even hard to hit
>>343495059
>No one to counter close-range combatants
>>343495059
As usual a git gud case, but I mainly play tanks and these two fucks are my worst nightmare, so I'll join OP in whining.
>>343495059
For reaper, only real option is to kill him before he gets close. Same for mei. In situations where you don't have any other option, overwhelming force is the only real option. Neither of them can be effectively 1v1d by most heroes.
After playing overwatch for around 25 hours I can safely say I'm bored of the game.
I have no idea why I thought overwatch would keep me playing like tf2 did.
>>343495059
It's called aiming. Try it sometime.
>>343496153
K
>>343495059
Soldier 76, Pharah, any sniper
I hope Blizzard will see your thread
Ye, let's nerf everyone. And instead of guns we'll fight with pillows and give everyone an infinite health bar.
>>343495059
Reapers fine, and the only probably with the fat chink is her invulnerable healing form, just make it like Bastion's where it'll interrupt it while being shot at and it's all good
>>343496512
Just give the ice block like 500hp and if it breaks she is out.
>>343495059
Whats so good about Mei? Did she catch you with your pants down?
>>343495059
>mcree cant counter mei and reaper
>>343495059
>I miss all of my shots
Okay
>>343496419
WAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA
>>343496706
People on consoles have trouble with mei because they can't aim at her fast enough before she freezes them.
I've honestly not seen a McCree since the last nerf. He's become close to useless, so why in the world are they nerfing him again? Are people really this incompetent?
>>343497065
they are buffing McCree because he is no longer "fun" to play, no one picks him except top tier people with god aim who can actually kill shit with him
>>343497065
Just because people don't play him right after a nerf doesn't mean anything. You see it all the time when things get nerfed, it takes a bit for people to stop complaining that it didn't need a nerf and start playing it again
The feminist chick is literally cancer right now.
>>343497065
>>343497229
Roll should have 2 seconds less cooldown.
>>343497314
2 headshots do more than a full fan, Fan is just garbage now and if they buff it its just going to be the tank killer it was again.
>>343497340
Zarya would be fine, if hero stacking wasn't a thing. 2 Zarya's is just awful to play against
>>343497454
>>343497340
Competitive needs to limit heroes to 1 of each per team.
We'd stop seeing dual Lucios, dual Tracers, and dual Winstons dominate the meta.
>>343497229
Zero evidence that McCree is getting a buff, you got a source or just talking out your ass?
>>343497454
75 was way high so they went to the other extreme with 45 which is abysmal.
It should be 55, that's a possible 330 damage, plenty to take counter reaper, mei, but not enough to take a tank in one go.
>>343497014
i have more problem with her invincible healing chamber. at least give it hp so i can break it or make it not contest on point
>McCree
Leave him as, honestly.
>Mei
Decrease range of ice ray
>Bastion
Leave as is, maybe even increase his damage dropoff
Change these things and the game would be perfect.
>>343497843
55 would kill a tank
FtH>roll>FtH
that'd be 660 damage, enough to combo any tank. 45 is fine, people need to learn to aim.
>Jump around Reaper
>He two shots you
>On killcam you're always in front of him spinning around
/PHARAH/
>>343497995
Bastion shouldn't be able to headshot in sentry mode
fixed
>>343495059
>It's another mei is overpowered meme
Yes she's annoying to play against but she literally can't do anything outside of being annoying.
>>343498438
Why do people care about Overwatch competitive?
Are they ever going to add more voice commands? the current selection is just pathetic.
>>343498510
Why does anyone care about anything?
>>343498510
Usually what's good competitive forms the meta.
>>343498540
Confirmed for DLC
Off/Def Hog all day everyday
He's great on offense for pulling healers/bastions for picking
He's great on defense pulling single heroes for slaughter into your defense gauntlet.
He can survive many ults by outhealing them.
He can survie getting frozen by Mei, if he instaheals
Is there anything that fat pig can't do?
>>343498540
Doubt it, blizzard is cheap as shit when it comes to VAs and getting VAs back together to record new lines is a pain
>>343498684
be balanced
>>343498684
Be a well-balanced character.
>>343495059
Junkrat
>>343498638
>DLC
Nah they are literally going the moba route in just adding maps,characters, and lines for free.And a fuckton of skins just so people can buy boxes.
>>343498753
>>343498761
To be fair, Pharah, Reaper and 76 shit on him pretty hard.
>>343498726
Are you serious nigga?
If there's one thing Blizz does right it's their audio work.
Game is perfectly balanced on PC right now.
Mei sucks to fight if you're trying to flank
Reaper sucks to fight if you're a tank
The only buff I think needs to be added to the game is Winston's bubble, it needs more health.
>>343498923
>pharah and 76
walking target practice. Reaper is good though
>>343498438
>tier list.png
Well at least you know nothing John Asshat
>>343498923
He counters his own counters really hard.
>>343497065
>select McCree after nerf
>"lol why did you pick a shitty hero" t. Hanzo on attack
>get 30 kills
>8 were fan the hammer
>Only saw Hanzo get kills during his ult.
>the rest of the time he just spammed arrows
>>343499084
>walking target practice
shit player detected. gotta keep your distance and stay out of hook range.
Hog's shit outside of it
>>343499095
>Getting countered by Roadhog as Reaper
>>343498684
Can't help feeling like this as well. He seem's usefull in almost any situation (a bit more so on the def though). Sniping / assasinating / absorbing shots, all around usefulness.But you need to keep hitting those hooks and kill a lot, otherwise you're a half-slot.
>>343499095
>>343499239
I can counter the number of times i've 1-shot a reaper as roadhog on my hands. 250 is too much to break through unless every pellet lands directly on his head
>>343497995
Bastion is literally garbage
>>343495059
You actually meant Tracer and Genji.
Tracer just avoids him, and makes the entire matchup depend on if he can headshot so its a lot harder to counter her.
and
Genji literally cannot die in a flashbang anymore so he just flies away or deflects to kill Mcree.
Winston can do work but if their team is good your monkey ass is going to get lit up the instant they retreat to their team to peg at people from range.
They fucked up extremely hard with the Mcree nerf, he still vaporizes tanks, but has trouble countering the people he needs to. No point in fanning at all anymore, I just left click everyone to death.
>>343496419
Is that DSP playing overmeme?
>>343499272
Pretty much this. Roadhog works best if you're not overly aggressive. Pick of squishies, soak up damage, always pull back for selfheal and keep up pressure.
I've kept 4-6 people at bay as sole surviving hog a lot of times.
He's a great defender
>>343498684
>enemy team suddenly has more ults
Pick a character that greatly benefits from having a fully ult charge and you'll win the game. He doesn't feel weak but he can lose you the game because the amount of ult the team gets off of him.
>>343497065
>asking if blizzard is incompetent
HMMMMMM
I really feel bad for not being able to play this game before blizz nerf the fun out of the game, really really bad.
>>343499158
>stay out of hook range
>hog can just hide and win by default since moving into his hook range = death
Not saying he's broken but he's a fat mccree with the stupid hook and you need to be able to see the future if you want to dodge because muh hitscan and garbage netcode.
>>343499401
this, you NEED a hog to counter these fuckers.
nerfing both widow and mccree buffed the fuck out of tracer, and genji was just buffed from mccree.
Genji is so fucking good if you can land his shurikens, can't wait for blizzard to nerf him because a skill reliant hill is overpowered.
>>343499589
>this game before blizz nerf the fun out of the game,
>they nerfed zenyatta to be unusable
>they nerfed mccree to be unusable
>they nerfed d.va to be unusable
This is what I fear every hero will be like, not until they actually buff someone.
>>343499749
they've already confirmed d.va buffs and are talking about zenyatta buffs
>reaper kills tanks which completely fucking cuck 90% of the other characters, especially le ruskie dyke
>OMG WTF REAPER IS SO OP :(
How fucking terrible can you be? Pharah/snipers absolutely shit on him, and pharah is rampant in 50-60s
>>343499648
Gonna blow your mind here but that's the point. Hes supposed to keep you away from his team with his ever pressense of death hovering around him, that's why hes considered a tank. The easiest way to counter him is to get in his face with multiple team mates.
>>343495059
You should try being good.
>>343499665
Shitty part is both of them can run circles around hog, matchup depends entirely on if the hook hits. Meanwhile they get free ults for days.
those characters are fundamental cancer and im glad people are finally starting to see how bullshit they are at higher levels.
>>343499812
>widows are less prevelent now
>you basically are forced to play 76 to counter her
I really hate this counter game formula. I just want to have a strong team comp that counters the enemy team with their teamwork not "lets pick the heroes that counter their heroes guys!"
Why buff or nerf anything? Just let the meta be the meta.
>>343495059
>press and hold left mouse
>look in their general direction
>SMACK
>SMACK
>SMACK
>ded
>>343499929
I hope you're talking about 76 to counter pharah, because she is near problem level.
JUST REIGNS FROM ABOVE is much better than DIE DIE DIE
>>343499929
>I just want to have a strong team comp that counters the enemy team with their teamwork not "lets pick the heroes that counter their heroes guys!"
2 zarya, 2 reaper, 1 lucio, 1 mercy
there you go
If you get killed by mei you're a shitter that can't do 250 damage in 2 seconds. And reaper is fine as is. The only balance change that needs to happen at this point is a d.va buff and maybe another wm nerf
Mei needs buffs, not nerfs.
Reaper could stand to be a bit more balanced by making him unable to get heals from Mercy or Health Packs while in wraith form.
He already gets healing from picking up souls; his risk is too low for an assassin-type.
>>343500227
>maybe another wm nerf
L
O
L
>>343500241
Remove her left click
her right click is now left click and is instant no build up required.
She now reliably kills tracers with headshots
Her icewall has a freeze around it and only freezes when mei isn't near it.
blam
fixed her.
>>343500267
Problem is she's still broken as fuck at the highest levels, yet way less useful at shit levels. I.E. where most people are. The 120 bodyshot nerf only affected the lower tiers, she still retains everything busted at higher ranks.
>>343500267
Can never nerf windowclicker too much
>>343500140
I agree
>enemy teams Reinhardt is nailed to the payload
>always conveniently has his ult up when we start to get a good push
>pain in the ass to break his shield
>go after his healer
>dead
>go after one of his lone team mates
>"you have been pinned"
>>343500334
>Make her a gun Mcree's and address her wall which isn't even a problem
Some fix.
>>343500241
>thickest girl in the game drives a Honda Fit
KEK
>flashbang
>left click headshot
>5 shot fan
>dead
>>343500267
snipers could be removed from all fps games and everyone would be happy but snipers
>>343500393
Good.
People should be rewarded for playing her well and punished for not playing her well.
>>343495314
There's such much porn of Tracer, Widowmaker, and DVA yet not nearly as much for Pharah. Why? She's clearly sexiest hero....
>>343500473
She spams the wall ontop of herself too much, and it does more damage than mccrees and has a bigger hitbox.
Her right click is the only thing redeemable about her, that and her wall.
Her left click is infuriating for no reason but to help skill less shitters play the game.
>>343495059
>take a couple steps back
Wow you just did it
>>343500464
Pinning people is pretty cathartic, I wish I recorded some of my games where I randomly hit Charge and shatter a BR kid's spine
>>343500591
>take a couple steps back
>that's all you can manage because mei icewalled you in
>you're her bitch now
>>343500532
There is such a thing as someone doing too well, especially so in class based shooters where outside of a couple characters the heroes in this game are flat out not equiped to deal with her at all. She can still solo team-wipe with one clip non-ult, non investment if played well. Not a single other character can do that in this game. Not one.
>step outside of hugging range
>shoot
>????
>dead reaper
>>343500241
Yeah but Tracer's Recall exists which is pure bullshit
Him picking up health packs while Wraith is the only way he can compete with the other flankers
>>343500667
wish i was meis little bitch t b h
>>343500582
The issue is her wall after ice-block, the wall is competely fine on its own.
She would still never be picked because Mcree does better than her in every scenario.
>>343499924
With practice comes strength.
Right now I'm able to hit Genji most of the time, takes more time with Tracer but I'm rather content with throwing hooks at her as well.
I actually did manage to get a pudge-style hook, throwing it at a point where I believed Tracer will blink.
>mfw it hit
fuck was I happy with that.
also, decisively debunked the theory of the hook being a hit-scan for me.
>>343500532
But she's got none of the usual downsides of a sniper.
Like take the TF2 sniper, if some bostonian midget hopped up on caffeine is running at you you better make that HS faggot, or all you've got left is a fucking knife and a jar of piss. Whereas if you're playing some bitch with practically half the charge time and no FoV restriction and you see some fucker creeping up on your then you can either spray at him with your still pretty good AR or spiderman away.
>>343500727
mccree doesn't map control as well as her.
>>343500667
If Mei gets you alone she's already won, that's her character, similar to McCree
>>343495059
>Mei tryst to 1v1 me as Reinhardt
>walls me off from rest of team
>she can't freeze me with my shield up
>whack her while she reloads
>goes into her ice block
>start charge at the right time
>splatter her spine over the wall
>Mei has left the game
>mfw
>>343500831
You say that but they nerfed mccree so he could no longer do that.
>>343500803
But she doesn't kill as well as he does or control a team like he does. His utility outmatches hers by a mile. A wall and a CC ult that is easily countered is way worse than a guy with an instant stun, burst damage, hitscan instant weapon and an ult that if used well ensures kills or reaction from the enemy team.
She's shit, always will be.
>Increase rate of fire on McCree's right click so he can kill Meis/Tracers/Reapers before they can invuln
>Remove D.Va's headshot hitbox and make her ult charge slightly faster
>Revert bastion back to how he was in beta with his own personal shield but make him only able to rotate 180 degrees
>slow mercy's ult charge by 15%
game fixed desu
>see some fags trying to take my point
>run over to it and wall myself off in the very corner
>fags eventually run round
>bunny hop to the middle and iceblock
>fags patiently wait for it to end
>team turns up and massacres them
>sorry sorry sorry sorry
>>343500852
>unloads all ammo into your shield instead of running through
you fought a dumb Mei
>>343500892
They nerfed McCree from shitting out 400+ DPS with no cooldown, so you actually have to have a brain to kill people with flashbang > fan now instead of spraying it in their general direction
His left click is still godlike as well
>>343501039
Change the Mercy thing to she loses 10% ult charge on death and we have a deal. It would stop all these bullshit moments where she flies out of the spawn room and undoes everything because lol-no-los-needed.
>>343501139
i'm fine with either desu
>>343501127
>use a brain
You simply don't use FAN anymore. it's just a shot dump or something you spray on a tank. You are way better of with just leftclicking.
>>343501039
Here's how you nerf bastion
>make so he can only look look straight while in turret mode
>give him his shield back and remove his heal
>>343501039
>mercies rezes at 50% on q
>heals to full when her animation finishes
Saw this fixed proposed and I think it's the best fix choice out there.
>>343501039
>make her ult charge slightly faster
So I can do something useless more often?
>>343501248
Why would you nerf bastion, he's garbage
>>343501039
>flashbang
>headshot(kills tracer)
>or, fan and get 200+ damage on them
If you have good aim you still shit on them both
>>343501235
It's for following up flashbang with when the target will survive a headshot + melee(aka 200 hp or more), or dumping into barriers where you can't get headshots
>>343501248
I'd rather say
>give him his shield back and make it only 200 health shield
>his normal health is now reduced to 200 health
He now dies almost instantly if you shoot him in the back but can take more brunt force from the front. And hes not mindlessly sitting in the corner because he can still aim behind himself.
>>343501328
>Why would you nerf bastion he's garbage
So that shit players will stop picking him at all when their team is losing
>>343500576
>shitskin
>sexy
>>343501353
>It's for following up flashbang with when the target will survive a headshot + melee
normally you only get two fans off before the stun wears off, and most of the targets you stunned are in a position to either kill you or escape. That and the spread is so wild that you have to be moderately close for it to all land.
I can't really think of a hero to use it on that's not a tank.
>>343501353
Tracer has 150hp, not 140. In most cases you're going to be hitting her on the edge of your flashbang hitbox because she'll be blinking around everywhere and you won't be able to punch her before she can recall.
What is Tracer?
>>343501491
back to stormfront
>>343501441
Here's that (You) you really wanted
>>343501353
You will never get 200 damage on them with fan before they can react.
The Tracer issue is the counter completely and utterly depends on her positioning when the flashbang hits. If you don't have an angle she gets out of jail free.
Same thing with the headshot melee proposition, the only person you are pulling this off against is Genji and even then he can dash or deflect the kill damage away.
I don't care if can fan down Reaper or Mei or whatever, but he absolutely should be able to easily fan down Tracer and genji with zero issues. If they get flashbanged(which is their own fucking fault for letting him get there) they should be dead no questions asked.
>>343495059
Both of 'em get countered by anything that has range.
Are you mentally challenged on a daily basis, OP?
>people STILL complaining about widowmaker
>just like every shitter new to CS that complains about the awp
lol
>>343498889
thats probably the most honest way to make dosh post release for a paid game, since at least you can get the same boxes for free if you just play
>>343501631
What really bothers me is that genji will always fly through the air when hes stunned so getting a reliable headshot on the guy isn't always possible.
>>343501713
At least the AWP is an investment, no price to buy into widow, if you kill her you don't get her power-level. If you kill her she doesn't start back at zero.
Especially in a game where nobody else but her can use anything like it.
>>343496419
DANG 7MS PING IM JELLY AS FUCK2112221111
>>343501631
I just hs bodyshot tracers now. Which is fucking difficult and essentially places the 1v1 entirely on my aim being miles better than the tracers
Does everyone else use the default crosshairs, or do you have a favorite?
>>343501841
this, mccree is such an investment. Hes basically zenyatta, you could potentially wreck face, but a single mistake and you're toast.
I really dislike how blizzard balances around comp
>>343501534
Flashbang does 25 dmg by itself
>all these baddies that relied too hardon McRightclick to deal with every hero they don't like
counters are literally the only way to balance multiplayer games
you're literally playing rock paper scissors, only scissors can beat rock if he isn't a total idiot
Why the fuck does everyone keep saying "nerf Bastion"? If you're losing to Bastion, of all people, you're fucking awful at this game.
Bastion needs buffing. So do Zenyatta and Symmetra.
>>343501514
Flashbang is 0.7s
Fan takes 1s to complete
you will fire 4-5 shots, depending on latency, which is better than a single headshot
Keep in mind it takes a split second for the flashbang to register to your target, the time which is used to ready fan, since you can't cancel the throwing animation with fan
>>343501841
That is the issue with Tracer. In an equally skilled matchup she holds all the cards.
To beat a Tracer you either have to outplay the shit out of her, or get lucky. Both are terrible options, doubly so when this is a game about counterpicks and swaps. Her being countered depends on how stupid she is with her engagements.
>>343501892
Dot crosshair is best on most heroes, with the colour set to a lime green. It helps to make the dot stand out on anything that isn't the defender spawn in hollywood.
Exceptions are Hanzo's, which I keep as default, but green. Dva's as default but green also helps to work out spread easily.
>>343502127
I remember someone doing the math and stating you only get 2 off before the fan ends because of mini global cooldowns or something between abilities.
>>343501892
Yellow dot crosshair, same as I use in every fps where changing the crosshair is an option desu.
Mei is literally the worst to fight 1v1 but if you have someone to help you she's useless.
>blizzard will never buff bastion
Hes fine but just so easy to shut down.
>>343502254
He needs to be faster in Scout mode, to facilitate the idea of setting up, doing some damage, then moving elsewhere and giving him at least the tools to survive an ambush. Also speed up his transformation time.
>>343502086
tf2 wasn't heavilly balanced around counters, you could still win against your counter fairly easilly if you played right. In this game though you have to hope they're retarded and forgot where the E button is.
The best way to balance the game is to make the one that ambushes first win, and anything else is up to aim.
>>343499496
>soak up damage
so you want the other team to build their ults?
sure get infront if you see you can body block something but please dont take needless damage
>>343502328
>Also speed up his transformation time.
He transforms to recon in .5 seconds, his turret form is fast enough that you can jump in and transform before touching the ground.
A speed boost would be nice, considering how stupid big his body is.
>>343496153
No dedicated servers to build a community off of.
>>343502383
The thing is, they get ults faster but Roadhog can shut down a lot of them every 6 seconds anyways.
>>343502254
>>343502328
DESU he should lose self-repair. It really does nothing for you most of the time because you get rolled over or destroy them with a healer on you.
Then you can have 2 new abilities, 1 for each mode.
>>343502141
>Have a close fight with Tracer
>Almost kill her
>Rewind
>Lol there goes all your effort
>double reaper in koth episode
yeah didn't want to play tanks or literally anything without mobility, guess i have to pick reaper too
>play zenyatta
>I know right?
>get a roadhog buddy
>walk right behind him like you're shadowing his every movement
>discord everytime you see the e thing pop up and then headshot the guy through roadhog
>get a bajillion free kills because they never see it coming
new favorite tactic.
>main mccree since the closed beta
>headshot literally everything that moves, fan the hammer against tanks
>literally have 90 hours of him alone
>nerf update comes
>meh, it only nerfs the FTH bullshit and slightly the default damage
>still proceed to dominate everything with headshots
>all these idiots charging me head on after the nerf because they think mccree isn't dangerous anymore
>proceed to melt them anyway
>flash + headshot + fth is literally a guaranteed kill on everything, even tanks
>my fucking face when people call me an aimbotter
>>343501892
dot or circle with dot in the center should be the best.
you are supposed to use complementary colors while keeping in mind of your teammates' infrared sight. so the obvious color should be green or dark green.
>>343498158
nothing personnel, kid
>>343501713
You literally cannot peek certain areas when theres an awper
A good awper will win every 1v1 no matter what range
Not only does the awper have the advantage defensivly, he also has the advantage when he peeks
one shot body shot
literally cant win if they have a good awper and you dont
you can literally rush and hit 100% accurate shots while moving with awp if you just stop before you shoot.
yeah """""""Balanced""""""" gun. Imagine how much better cs would be without awp cancer.
Also im a former global.
>>343502502
>get a headshot and a bodyshot against her
>just a sliver of health
>lelolel rewind
>can just waltz in no worries because she has all these safety nets
>>343495059
Youre gonna waana shoot mei from far away or with a friend
same goes for reaper, but please use your ears and hear his loud ass fucking footsteps.
>>343502127
You get 3 shots as a certainty, the 4th completely depends on latency and their reaction. If they are hitting their escape button you aren't getting that forth shot unless you immediately fan after flashbang which against Genji(the issue) is a liability that can get you killed.
Not even to mention bullet spread and how thin their hitboxes are. RNG can completely fuck your chance to kill them. Its astronomically stupid that its up to chance.
Then again all 3 are fundamentally broken, Because they are so much bullshit he has to have stupid shit like a stun in an FPS. Tracer and Genji are the root problem to a lot of the annoying and bullshit stuff in this game.
>>343502573
>>343497843
45 is fine if you dont miss.
furthermore stun headshot punch will also kill any 200 hp hero.
>Competetive will end up being Lucio + Mercy or Lucio + Lucio on almost every team
Screencap this because I know it will happen.Having two healers will be the norm.
>>343502591
>>343502502
You know what would be a good nerf to her imo.
If she uses all 3 charges of her blink they all go on cooldown until all 3's cooldowns complete. So she has 9 seconds of actually being killable instead of this bullshit where she will ALWAYS have a charge up because of how recall, and the charges work.
>>343502714
I prefer edgy characters over the peppy quiplords and """"""""heroic"""""""" stoics that currently compose 90% of the cast.
>>343502782
It already is the norm
>>343502782
You mean high rank competitive?
>>343498761
>>343498753
get on his face. he might have 60p hp and a lot of killing potential, but he cant out live everything. either kill him from really far or really close. going in 1 by 1 at medium range, he'll slaughter you
>>343497843
>>343498020
>>343502763
Should have just frontloaded his Fan damage to be 70 for the first 3 bullets then drop down to 10 for any follow up. This would include the fan-roll-fan scenario.
That way he can still burst 200HP people very easily, but it would be significantly worse against tanks or anyone being actively healed by a mercy or something.
>all these heroes that were nerfed were due to someone abusing more than one of those heroes at a time
>they would have never been nerfed had they simply capped hero selection
>>343502936
>Pro's are no longer allowed to pick more than one of a hero
>Comp play still allows stacks
Fucking blizzard.
>>343499924
this guy knows whats up
though i dont want them to nerf genji or tracer, i want them to give mccree a little exrra damage on fth. they nerfed it way too hard, he cant reliably kill reaper or genji fast enough which is exactly what Blizzard said hes supposed to do. the sic hullets dont come out fast enough.
>>343502908
yes but this requires work.
Blizzard HONESTLY nerfed mccree like this because so many people whined. I can almost guarantee they did this to pacify them while they think of a legitimate rework in the meantime.
I mean, no one could honestly make a nerf this bad and lazy. It's the simplest damage tweak that did not work.
Fuck buffs and nerfs.
Please, for the love of fuck, please let me see a scoreboard showing me who is shitting on my team.
I want to see who is doing what or not doing anything. Not just for the team's sake, but for my own sanity's. I'm sick of getting golds and silvers and constantly losing matches.
>>343502968
>wanting every round to be 2 lucios, 2 winstons and 2 tracers
m8
>>343502789
So you're saying is that if she blinks a second or third time before the one before it recharges, the recharge time adds together. Is that right because it does prevent her from being able to run around for super long because of rewind.
In TF2 the scout is hard to hit but getting hit is more punishing because you had to stop distracting the other team to find help. Rewind's health regen takes away that punishment of fucking up at your job.
>>343495059
>asking to nerf Mei aka Casual filter : the hero
>>343503147
>please let me see a scoreboard showing me who is shitting on my team.
i hope that's never going to be implemented
idiots looking for kills instead of the objective are what's wrong in this game, we don't need more jerking over the stats
>>343500504
you realise after than headshot reaper fucks off and mei is invicible right? the stun doesnt last as long as people think
Anyone have any tips for playing Genji? I can never flank on the attack on King's Row. It's impossible. I really can't get a feel for it at all.
>>343502782
>>Competetive will end up being Lucio + Mercy or Lucio + Lucio on almost every team
that's literally what it currently is, you're late anon
>>343503147
How about you open your eyes
>>343503162
What? I'm posting that its retarded that stacking is still allowed.
>>343503183
Basically if she uses all 3 charges of blink she has to wait 9 seconds to get them back again, that would stop her from having an escape up at all times, and would allow her to actually be caught with her pants down and because of this she wouldn't be so fucking braindead in every encounter.
>>343503193
>Overwatch is 60 years into the future
>Mei's phone is bigger than some phones now
Unless that isn't a phone but after 60 years you would think they wouldn't get bigger
>>343503270
Jump around like a monkey and practice your aim.
>>343503119
>no one could honestly make a nerf this bad and lazy.
Look at Nova's "rework" and say that again with a straight face.
>>343503147
OOGA
me booga
team ooga
why me lose ?
>>343503246
>this nigga
i've lost count of how many reapers i killed by just stunning and headshotting them
>they go wrathform in panic
>follow them, single shot, they die instantly
gg m8
>>343503218
hes right though, if someones playing horribly at a class that they can't play they need a stern talking down to sometimes. I know it's childish but if you're playing widow and sucking let the guy that actually picked widow first snipe instead.
>>343502582
*flash*
awper dead
>>343503297
What if she only uses two blinks? Does it take 6 seconds for her to get them back?
>>343503320
no phones are getting bigger now.
>>343502789
>>343502591
>>343502502
Just reduce the rewind time from 3 seconds to 2 seconds. That is an insanely big nerf because they don't have a safeguard of that extra second of rewind.
>>343503346
>they need a stern talking down to sometimes
So hold on, you're telling me you actually think you'll be able to "talk down" someone until they switch hero because their stats sucks?
Are you really this delusioned?
>it's childish
It's more, it's autistical as fuck.
>we want a functional scoreboard so we can witch-hunt the baddies instead of blaming ourselves if our team sucks
Yeah, nah.
I bet my shit you always blame your team if *you* lose, isn't it?
>>343503346
That's retarded
>>343503398
if I read it right no just the normal 3 seconds.
Shes supposed to be saving that last blink for emergencies anyways.
>>343501616
plebit traaaash
>>343503398
At that point I'd say they'd work like they do now. You'd have 3 seconds of time to deal with her between blinks, if she gets greedy or pushed into a bad situation she can actually be dealt with like a normal character if she uses all 3.
It would keep her mobility at a high point, but would actually introduce some downsides other than "she's got low HP" or whatever bullshit they think balances here.
>>343501616
>It's my first day here from Reddit: The Post
>>343502908
i was thinking this. like the first 2 or three bullets do the most and the rest fall off.
however this would need to be specific yo the amou t of bullets the gun can hold. so if you have 1 bullet left itll just do 10 damage, if you have 5 the first two do 70 and the last three do 10.
>>343503484
>I bet my shit you always blame your team if *you* lose, isn't it?
well yeah, I've played support for like 12 games in a row and got gold everything and lost, and then switched to an offense hero and won constantly.
Players kind of suck.
>>343495059
Why the fuck is anyone complaining about Mei ?
Her ice wall is a great ability but outside of that she does no damage and her ultimate is trash
>>343503582
Yes, we believe you anon, you carry in games when you win and it's your team's fault when you lose
>>343503320
Phones are getting bigger again
>>343503582
Then play offense, apparently your team wasn't having any gain from you being a support. :^)
>i suck at support, i blame my team for it
>BAAWAAAAAA I'M THE ONLY GOOD PLAYER IN THE WORLD, EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS BAAAAA
Please.
>>343503652
You're right I should try harder when I play support.
Thank you for lighting the fire underneath me
>>343503578
That would be the ideal. He'd require a brain, and it would allow him to actually deal with the people he needs to.
Its maddening that Blizzard can't even be bothered to think this shit through.
Hell it took them until just now to realize that they overnerfed Zenyatta to the point where he literally isn't picked in pro games anymore.
>>343502908
Why should he have a combo that guarantees him a kill? I don't think that you understand that. No skill should just guarantee you a kill. If they increase fan damage, a grenade fan combo GUARANTEES he kills 75% of the games cast. SO FAIR.
>>343499067
>perfect
You do know zenyetta keeps existing even if you never see him
>>343503582
>can't carry playing support
>blames the team
>>343503586
>Get 5 friends together
>We all go Mei
>Mfw the other teams gets mad
We didn't even win but holy shit is Mei fun to piss shitters off with
>>343503736
let me guess
You think he does full 240 damage everytime he stuns and fans?
Hes putting himself in great danger everytime he plays, He should have the tools to kill or else hes useless.
>>343503707
>>343503804
>litterally carrying the game as a support but can't carry effectively
>oh but you just think the team sucks
>>343503821
>having 5 friends
holy shit fuck off back to Facebook you subhuman normalfaggot.
>>343502427
fucking this holy shit half of the fun was going to your home server with your niggas who you competed with every day. Playing with randoms every game feels so soul-less
>>343499067
>perfectly balanced
I somewhat agree with this, they're gonna buff Zenyatta and Dva next patch and then the game is gonna be fine
they should just fix healers so stacks don't heal, because Mercy + Lucio and a must have in literally any team comp
>>343503736
Because here's the thing, Blizzard isn't going to change him or Tracer or Genji fundamentally despite needing to.
They won't ever admit to making huge mistakes with those characters, they will instead continue to enforce these one-shot mechanics because they escalated Tracer and Genji to a point where 1-shots need to exist.
Its no different than walking into a snipers sightline as anyone sub 300. You just ended up on the other side of the spectrum, you walked into the guy who does it at close range instead.
Its a game of one shots, and non-interactive deaths. This is what Overwatch is.
>>343503852
>I should be GUARANTEED kills or I'm useless!
Get a load of this guy. Reaper uses shotguns that are worthless if you get more than five feet away. Should he be guaranteed kills if he gets that close to you?
>>343504041
1. reaper has the tools to get close to you
2. reaper has the escape if hes in the wrong area
3. Reaper has a large pool of shots to work with
4. reaper has more health than mccree
5. reaper does more damage than mccree headshots
6. yeah he should get the kill if hes close to me almost every hero has an answer to it and reaper is obvious as fuck when he gets close to me
Mccree has none of this and isn't guaranteed diddly.
>>343503736
Roadhog absolutely has a combo that guarantees a kill. Anyone at 200hp or under is dead, and its kinda RNG if 250hp heroes survive or not
>>343503967
And those heroes have 200 health. Not 250. So why does he need more damage?
>>343502141
The problem is the best counterpick for Tracer is another Tracer.
That's how you know a character is broken in some regard.
>>343504220
because he doesn't do 200 damage?
>>343504195
>Mfw getting hooked as mercy because the person I flew towards moved away
I seem to take the hit meant for others whenever I go towards them.
>>343504220
He wouldn't get more damage. It would be remarkably less. He's designed to murder anyone sub 200, and with the change he would do a total of 300 damage with a full combo. Tanks would be fine, everyone else would get blown up. Just like if they ran into a Hog, or reaper.
>>343502573
>elimineating
>reaper is starting to feel cool
it must be a contrast or hipster thing kicking in.
>>343504321
>hooking mercy
it's the best feeling
>>343500576
She is the hottest
Mercy and Pharah are my two go to girls for jerks
I like D.Va but she's overused.
Every video Mercy and Pharah are in I lose a nut. That pussy job one had a serious impact on my dick.
I am tempted to learn how to do the sfm videos so I can make videos to my fetishes.
>>343505635
I hate you with every fiber of my being
>>343506190
"Like taking candy from a baby"
>>343506337
I hope a reaper shoves his guns up your dick you self healing bullet sponge
>>343505635
>hook mercy
>she gets sent at a weird as fuck angle for some reason and my shot misses
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343495059
i just played it for the first time out of the beta and im already bored and pissed at this game. that stupid fat wonky dumb ice bitch is a fatass and just freezes you with her gun and you cant do anything.
>>343504608
He's edgy enough that he loops back around to cool
>>343503147
They're never going to do this. They REMOVED the ability to see your teammates' ult meters while spectating so players couldn't yell at their team's Mercy for not rezzing them when they died when they had full ult.
The "fire" you see around players is the best you're going to get.
>>343506523
You know what's even better?hooking a mercy boosting to phara midairor catching a minejumping junkrat
>>343506647
>hook tracer
>instashoot
>she blinks away
REEEEEEE
>>343497065
Hold the fuck up, McCree is getting ANOTHER nerf?
>>343506762
But you still can know if a teammate has an ultimate because of the blue check under their character portrait. Or did they remove that in the competetive patch?
>>343506680
and just played as her, what do you know, play of the game. what kind of unbalanced shithole is this?
>>343495059
He still kills them. He just can't melt tanks anymore.
>>343507202
Not unless he can consistently headshot. Fan got nerfed so they can almost always invuln before they die.
>>343496153
game is meh. glad i didnt pay for it and got it for free
>>343503362
maybe if you play cs:go deatmatch or something, lol.
>>343501713
>>343501812
^ this.
AWP had value. It had risk. If you lost it, the team's economy took a major plunge, and now the enemy had a deadly sniper.
Meanwhile, you just pick her here. What do you lose? Nothing really, she can output plenty of dmg.
>>343499067
> only 6-7 heroes get picked
> game totally balanced
I mean...are you for fucking real now?
How to fix McCree:
>Restore FtH to it's previous glory
>Either give FtH a slight cool down or remove the reload on roll
>?????
>Profit!
- A former McCree shitter
>>343508450
>i don't play mccree anymore because i abused the fth and couldn't aim for shit
>>343502542 here, i laugh at you and at people like you.
>>343495059
The proper counter for them is spacing.
>>343508636
There's no point in playing McCree since the overnerf. Reaper does everything he does and does it better.
>>343508846
>implying
you can't headshot a widowmaker or a pharah from 600 meters with your shotguns, edgelord.
>>343508846
>There's no point in playing McCree since the overnerf
>>343508921
>Teleports behind you
Pshh... Nothing personal kid
>Shoots you in the head with dual shotguns
>>343496153
no hats
>>343509209
>teleporting in range of a widowmaker or a fucking hanzo
holy shit, you have no idea how many times these fucking reapers get an instant headshot as soon as they teleport
>thinking you can use that teleport and be literally stunned for 2 secs and expecting others to do nothing
playing against Mei is like my real life experience with women
they coldly block me when I get close to them
>>343509431
I think Mei players are actually akin smokers in real life.
They're completely fucking useless, nasty for both your team and the enemy's one, and they do absolutely nothing but literally be annoying to everyone.
>>343502542
I've been accused of aim botting multiple times on hanz when I shit on tracers trying to kill me, it's honestly a compliment
