>MGS 4 was shit
>Peace Walker was shit
>Lords of Shadow was shit
>MGS V was shit
>Death Stranding will be ____
MGS 4 and peace walker were shit when you scrutinise them, but I thoroughly enjoyed playing them
its will be good, becuase this time, Kojima wont be held back by Konami
>>343475905
Yes, without being held to a time frame and budget, this game can only succeed!
>>343475520
>MGS 4 and peace walker were shit if you have taste
FTFY
>>343475905
>Actually believing in the Konami bogeyman because they shut kojima down for going over budget
Fuck off drone
Oh great, it's the "MGSV WAS SHIT" meme again.
>>343475905
Kojima's a fucking hack
>>343477082
>someone actually defending konami
yakuza get out of here. you hold no power here.
>>343476943
>>343475520
I liked MGS4 just fine for what it was. It didn't make the sky split open and rain virgin tits but it was perfectlysolid, took the idea of a giant movie-game, cranked it up to 11 and ran all the way to fucking Pakistan with it. I can appreciate that.
>>343477097
Point: MGSV has great gameplay for an MGS game
Counterpoint: It's still kinda shit for a stealth game in general and no one ever played MGS for the gameplay alone
I was all excited when it was coming out, ready to sink my teeth into some pure stealth gameplay, but after having played some and waited till now to get back into it, I don't even see the point now that the bandwagon ship has sailed. We have hindsight on our side now and the verdict is MGSV was so disappointing it literally got Kojima fired
>>343477953
This is the correct opinion
autistic gook/sonygger
>>343477953
>>343477097
how many times do I need to tell /v/ that MGSV was absolutely garbage. not a garbage MGS game, but just a garbage game in general, comparable to the likes of Far Cry.
>>343478623
I won't lie, totally still bothered by the Keifer Blunderland thing
It's not the performance itself I mind as much as the blatant lack of loyalty to someone who had been with the series for as long as it had voices. Seems kinda indicative of Kojima's head going up his own ass which may lend to his getting fired being a longer time coming than was let on
>>343478871
To be honest, not axing him after 3 was the mistake
>>343478871
Kojima and Hayter don't even know each other. Kojima has never given a shit about him.
>>343479001
Oh fuck off, it turned out to be the last real Metal Gear game ever and the protagonist is voiced by some drunk retard from the Lost Boys. That is terrible
>>343479065
Hayter's IN MGS4 you fucking retard
>>343479275
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Hayter himself said he doesn't know Kojima.
look, it's this thread again!
>>343475206
Peacewalker was awesome.
Death Stranding will be a lot like MGS4. Mostly cut scenes where Kojima pretends to be a movie director while forgetting that there was supposed to be a game somewhere in the mix.
>>343479441
So? You don't think Kojima isn't familiar with who dubs his games? He obviously is considering the Japanese release of MGS1 Integral used the English voices which you might know if you weren't a subhuman nigger turd
That combined with the fact that Akio whats-his-face still voiced Snake in Japanese just makes it obvious that Kojima only wanted to wank his westaboo dick by making Konami front extra dough to hire a Hollywood name to be in his game
>>343475206
Evangelion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30wnIH24o9c
>>343477240
>implying criticizing Kojima means you like Konami.
I'm a Silent Hill fan. I've hated them long before you did.
>>343479743
That's nice and all but it doesn't mean Kojima has ever cared about Hayter.
>>343479743
Actually, they've been trying to get rid of Hayter since MGS2.
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/03/26/david-hayter-talks-metal-gear-solid-snake-debacle/
MGS4 was great
PW was shit
5 was shit
>>343478871
The mistake was that Hayter shouldn't have voiced big boss in 3, because there is no reason for him to have the exact same voice. Then this wouldn't be such a kick in the nuts to hayter
>>343479441
it's reasonable to assume that they would have met at some point, no?
>>343475206
MGS4 was shit because no gameplay
Peace wallet was great fuck you
MGSV was shit because no story
Also kojima didn't have involvement in lords of shadows.
Death stranding will probably be lackluster anyway, kojima has lost his touch.
playing as norman reedus in a vidya game would be pretty cool on novelty alone
>>343480109
>The original person that was cloned shouldn't have the same voice as the clones
>>343479796
that's really fucking good
>>343480039
Interesting. That last part is really sad... I remember some really old interview about MGS1, how he played those games and thought it was really cool to be hearing his own voice as he went along.
>>343480109
Why is the Japanese voice for Big Boss the same as Solid Snake
>>343479986
I'm guessing you really are just semi-literate. Back to the tree hut grammar school with you, Toby
>>343480423
My genetically identical twin sisters have really different voices.
>>343480453
>Why is the Japanese voice for Big Boss the same as Solid Snake
Because Akio (Japanese Snake) also voice Solidus. If anyone, John Cygan should have voiced Boss in the english games.
>>343480423
Yeah I guess Liquid and solidus should be voiced by hayter too
>>343475206
mgs as a whole is a shit franchise.
>>343480604
If the casting director had stayed true to the original version then yes, Solidus should've been voiced by Hayter. Too bad he has no range.
>>343480647
how did that brain surgery thing go anyway?
>"Okay we only have to do one more of these things until we can just focus on Bazinga Machines"
>"Lets replace the voice actor everyone's become accustomed to"
What happened to Konami being a good video game company?
>>343480647
>tfw ruse cruise never
>>343475206
I have 300 hours on all of these except castlevania, also kojipro only helped the devs with nothing.
>>343480806
It ended back in the mid-2000's, but MGS fans weren't paying attention.
>>343480747
tbf I think Hayter does have range, it just seems to go from semi-normal to fucking cancer patient
It's by no means for Hayter's acting ability I think he should have stayed. More tradition than anything. I mean it's not like what we got instead was any good either
>>343476351
They are making good use of that money now that they fired kojima.
I'm sure their employees are treated nicely now that he left too.
>>343480973
replacing Hayter feels like if KOEI replaced Jamieson Price as Lu Bu
it just doesn't make any sense to change something everyone's already used to. Even Kratos' voice actor isn't a screaming nigger anymore
Played Metal Gear games my whole life. Metal Gear I beat with a game genie when I was 7 or so. Couldn't read or understand the game very well. I mostly just punched the dog at the start.
Past that MGS was a great game when it came out, it combined elements of facinating story, 4th wall shenanigans and good old fashio ed war drama to make something that just blew your damn mind back in the days of the playstation. MGS2 had an incredible demo and the first person addition to gameplay was innovative and immersive but the story was terrible. People that buy into metal gear lore need to stop. Kojima is a terrible writer that needed more editors the longer he made games. MGS3 was great. 4 was a 12 hour long poorly written movie and V is enjoyable because of the open world bad operator simulation.
So 1, 3, 5 - are good to ok in that order.
2 and 4 should be used as examples of how not to write.
Kojima is a bad writer with good ideas.
>>343480453
>no arguments
I see we're done kid.
>>343480806
I'm glad he was replaced, hatter stopped being good after mgs1.
Then he started doing that stupid snake parody voice in 2, it was the game equivalent of the Arnold voice.
>>343480780
It was a head transplant. The entire head. And I'm pretty sure that's all kinds of illegal so I'm sure it just remained as a proposition.
>>343481160
It's hard to argue with a life form whose brain is incapable of maintaining a singular thread of reason from point to point
I'm sorry you're retarded, Kunta Kinte
I bought MGS V for 17 bucks, still haven't played it, and the only other MGS game I played was Snake Eater on PS2 when that was still relevant. Why do I keep reading people shitting on V? It looks like a great game that I'll have fun playing.
>>343481417
It is anon. It is. I really enjoyed V. People are just so fucking angry on this board.
>>343481417
It's enjoyable, but playing it in the first week and finishing it only to learn over the period of a month how the game was unfinished soured a lot of people on it.
>>343481412
>still no arguments
I'm out. Please don't talk to me ever again.
The shills are here boys and girls! Remember, if you think a post looks like a shitty Amazon product review, chances are you've got a kike on your hands!
>>343480423
No they shouldn't have
>>343475206
You opinion is _____
>>343481684
Why are you so salty? I don't understand. I didn't buy the game on release and got it for $20. It's fun as hell just playing barbie dress up with guns and finding new ways of infiltration. After a while it gets stale but so does everything. What kind of perfection do you want from something that takes thousands of man hours to make and costs as much as a good lunch?
>>343481417
It's mediocre. The game does the bare minimum and absolutely nothing else
>mgs 4 wasn't shit, it was good, the gameplay was pretty good, when you got to play. It had some great moments too.
>mgs peace walker wasnt shit either, it was good for what it was, a portable game. Probably the most iffy of all of them though.
>kojima was only producer on lords of the shadow, most likely no creative input whatsoever.
>who knows, I cant assume with only a trailer. I look forward to it though
>>343481945
I've put over one and a half thousand hours into Hearts of Iron 3 and it hasn't gotten stale yet.
>>343482085
People like you need to build, design and create something once in a while.
Joosten was a mistake.
Ah, /v/ hates Kojima again.
That's more like it.
For a minute there, I thought that /v/ liked games.
>>343482206
I should. It would probably be better than hackjima's """games"""
>>343482175
There's a guy on steam with 2k hours on MGSV and HoI2 is better than 3 ever was. Just because you drop a billion hours on a grand strategy game doesn't make it comparable.
OP your opinion is shit
>>343482332
/v/ likes games and not movies
>>343475206
where exactly are you going with this?
>>343482395
What are you even saying
>>343482394
Bet it won't. I mean I'm not defending his bad writing but how can you not see the incredible effort that goes into making this shit. The clean combat, the action, the seemingly responsive world. Different kinds of strategy that can go into a world that well put together makes it a damn fine experience. If the end of V was literally a black screen after you played 40 hours it's still more effort in one creative instance than any one person can ever create on their own.
>>343479895
so your point their practice is bad but it do not affect mr kojima?
>>343482482
>/v/ likes games
Its the classic memes that make me smile.
>>343482147
>most likely no creative input whatsoever
are you high. by chance?
>>343481417
3/4 into the game, the story stuff gets pretty bad, it left a lot of people with a bad taste on their mouths, the rest was still as enjoyable like before but the story stuff turned sour so for a lot of people it ruined the whole package.
and due to the konami vs kojima thing, various things got cut from the game, as well as an important key plot point for a character in mgs1, so it made the fans even more upset.
The questions that the content that was cut brought up were never really burning questions that people asked about before mgsv but when that cut content brought it up... it made a lot of people upset, more than before, making mgsv the worst game ever.
I myself enjoyed every second of it while acknowledging its flaws, i made peace with the series after I finished everything and moved on.
Most didn't and are still angry.
>>343482612
It means you're a autistic fuck that spent 1500 hours playing hoi3 recreating nazi germany.
>>343482746
>incredible effort
Name one thing that was incredible about it. It was literally an ubisoft game, which is one of the most commercial and uninspired models in gaming.
What's your favorite TPP meme?
Mine is WHOOOOOO haha
>>343483064
"Mgsv is bad"
Never gets old.
>>343482967
Oh no, I've been exposed! How will I ever recover from this?
>>343475206
>I want to showcase my new game at E3
>but I don't want to actually show anything resembling a game
>I want to jerk off to Norman Reedus and a fetus
>here's End of Evangelion
>am I good enough yet, Hollywood?
>>343482796
You realize if he did anything, even write one line, he'd want that shit in the credits? Well it says only producer, so he didnt write, direct, or desgin it, he had little to no creative influence.
>>343483682
He's the reason the game exists
>>343483682
they slapped his name and his team on the cover to sell extra copies, that's it.
>>343482746
>the seemingly responsive world
fuck you
>>343475206
You now realize those games came out when he was given complete creative freedom with his work, with no editor.
>>343484161
[citation needed]
>>343484203
Kek, I'm not here to spoonfeed you, kid.
>s-s-stop insulting moviejima!
the fucking state of you faggots
>>343481417
>still haven't played it, and the only other MGS game I played was Snake Eater on PS2
>Why do I keep reading people shitting on V?
>It looks like a great game that I'll have fun playing.
why don't you play it already and form your own damn opinion you fucking retard?
>>343484973
Then shut the fuck up.
>>343485654
>stop dropping elite truth bombs on me!
