![Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_005[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fh4Hm1E.jpg "Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_005[1].jpg")
What the hell is it with these new Pokemon designs?
>>343436042
What's wrong with that one?
There's been no other Pokemon like it so far and you'll probably remember it for the rest of your life. That makes it a successful design, even if it's not aligned to your personal taste.
>>343436042
Is tumblr going nuts over this fish yet? I would imagine they are
>triggered by a triggerfish
kek
>>343436042
Literal gay fish
>>343436042
There's gonna be so much porn of this thing won't it
>>343436042
It's literally based of the Hawaiian state fish, the Humuhumunukunukuapua`a, you fucking moron.
that looks better than this gen 1 design
>>343436640
for a second there i thought you were having a stroke
ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL
![Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_007[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cEmADHT.jpg "Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_007[1].jpg")
>>343436712
I beg to differ, anon.
>>343436042
What? It's just a recolored 1:1 animal. Isn't that what you like?
I really like some of the new designs, like that electric bug and grandpa dragon but they just don't look like Pokemon.
>>343436712
Wrong
A part of me want's to fuck that fish.
>>343436894
best one out of the new batch by far
nice
>>343436712
You're right that's retarded. Eggs? Why?
>>343436894
Is that supposed to support your point? Because it's not doing a very good job.
Does anyone else really want to get blown and alsokissedby that fish?
>>343437092
I was just joking by the way guys haha!
>>343436042
It's a tropical fish.
I don't see what's wrong, some tropical fish also have "teeth" like that too.
>>343436905
What does look like a Pokemon?
>>343436042
Did the original artists die or something?
Also
>all these reoccurring type combinations
We're going to hit 1000 Pokes soon, what the fuck is Gamefreak doing with this franchise? They ought to be much more deliberate about their new designs.
The shit is beginning to outweigh the crap
![Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_006[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9KbFSgm.jpg "Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_006[1].jpg")
>>343437026
You can't tell the difference if that was a Pokemon or a Yokai Watch monster, but that's just me being nit picky.
Some of them are actually good in my opinion, like pic related.
>>343437396
I think Sugimori still does all of the designs.
>>343436712
>What am I doing?
>Who broke Tyler's cap?
>what are they all looking at?
>hey Danny where are we?
>>343436712
>This new design is bad
>Y-YEAH WELL SO IS THIS OLD ONE WHAT NOW
>>343437475
he needs to take mushrooms again, he is slacking.
>>343437543
agumon wasn't that bad desu senpai
>>343437396
>>all these reoccurring type combinations
And you post a thing that shares its type with 2 other Pokemon in the same gen. Adorable.
The barnacle thing still holds the crown of absolute worst design in the entire series
>>343437423
>mosquito pokemon
>it's cute
>Basically a flying voltik.
Everything went better than expected.
>>343436042
>new
What's Jynx
>>343437392
Pokemon designs are usually relatively round and simplistic with vibrant colors. Gen II especially.
They started to complicate the designs more and more over time, and giving them a bigger color palette though. I mean, like I said that doesn't mean they look bad, it's just that in comparison to older mons they look out of place.
>>343437778
Elec/bug or Elec/poison/bug? through evo?
>>343437829
jynx was just a nog not a fish
>>343437753
>being this critical of gen 1
Just because you made mistakes in the beginning does not give you a free pass to continue making them.
>>343437475
He still does most of them but they have a couple of different guys working on them now. I heard he still overlooks them and makes changes sometimes though.
>>343437835
>it's just that in comparison to older mons they look out of place.
Only if by "older" you exclusively mean gen 1. Because gen 2 looks like every other gen following it.
>>343437475
Sugi only makes a fraction of the designs, what he does (or did if Ohmura really did replace him) is illustrate the finalized designs. One thing that's good to remember is that the thought and translation process for designs changes as the artists themselves change over a period of time. They probably discovered flaws in what they were doing before and improved them, so of course it's going to be different now and they won't be going back.
>>343437396
>>343437475
>>343438029
You retards do know that there has been a group of Pokemon makers since the beginning, right?
Fuck, the girl who made Sylveon made fucking Pikachu.
>>343436183
This.
You're finding reasons to hate it, OP. If you think it looks lazy and stupid, go look at the original Pokemon. If you think it's a ripoff, go look at ALL the Pokemon so you can see there haven't been any like it yet.
>>343438049
96 was a decade ago, gen 1 is "Old" you fucking austimo
>>343436894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lmAc3LKWM
>>343438049
Absolutely not.
Gen II has a pretty unique artstyle.
I think they look neat
>>343438006
>if it's gen 1 it's fine
And what mistakes? We got 2 new combos just yesterday.
Every single generation has had its great designs and their shit designs. Some moreso than others.
>>343436042 looks like shit.
>>343437423 looks great.
Every generation will always be like this, it's not like anything has changed.
>>343437852
its fairy/bug
>>343437852
I don't think the evo's been revealed yet but it's bug electric... With what I assume to be levitate which makes a good type combo even better.
>>343438310
oh cool, something different.
I'd like to see Fairy/Water/Fire/Grass like a legendary grouping of fairy pokemon
>>343438309
>Every generation
Not every generation has had a multitude of pokemon revealed that people were this split on. At least, not as far as I can recall.
Posting the greatest Pokémon ever thought up, I want 80 of these.
>>343436183
It's literally a yokai watch knockoff
>>343437768
Yes.
>>343438420
>>343438506
At least it evolves into a fucking RAILGUN
>>343438554
What Yokai is it based on?
>>343438148
Sylveon's a well designed mon though.
The Pokemon that are designed poorly are the ones people rarely remember... like Remoraid... nobody's favorite Pokemon is Remoraid.
>>343438420
Don't tell me that is this gens caterpillar Pokemon.
Why do the eyes on new pokemon look so lifeless/fake?
>>343438506
he's like a caterpillar mixed with a phone charger and a metro bus lol, I bet he will shit on everything like dustox.
>>343438420
>>343438506
>>343438605
Looks like Yusei's hair.
>>343438495
I would say that Gen 5 did.
>>343436042
Gay Fish has really grown on me.
I think it's the teeth.
>>343438640
This, they're "lifeless", they don't have the "charm", they are "soulless",they lack "character", they don't have that "gamefeel" and aren't "rad".
>>343438605
>>343438653
fucking knew it, This nigga is gonna be at the top of the pile of garbage eating and breaking down every other pokemon in the dex
If this >>343438506
gives me THIS >>343438605
then i'm perfectly fine with having one on my team
>>343438309
>W-Well every gen has good and bad designs
When will this meme end. Only Nu Pokemon has outright BAD designs
>>343438621
Every pokemon is someone's favorite. I mean, I think Ambipom is an affront to god but when I was discussing pokemon with someone the other day they said they liked it a lot.
>>343438605
Just a shame that it's gonna be complete garbage in battle.
>>343436894
>Steel/Dragon
>Steel
How the fuck does it look like it's steel type?
>>343436042
I actually prefer Bruxish's design to the things in real life that they are based on.
Pokemon designs reflect real life, no everything in nature is pretty to look at.
>>343438776
sick analysis senpai like totes Body Positive bro
>>343438789
>>343438796
Fun fact: it has the same Species as Pinsir.
>>343438846
except for simisear
>>343438420
Don't bully the sweet baby batterypillar, I love him.
>>343436042
chinese pokemon is better
>>343438836
If this isn't outright bad, then I don't know what is.
>>343438882
What is that called?
It's so hideous I'm in awe of it.
>>343438864
Good thing it's Normal, faggot.
>>343438885
What? I was just posting buzzwords before he could respond to someone else.
>>343438882
>no everything in nature is pretty to look at.
so why should fantasy?
>>343438861
You're garbage familia, Sleep Powder - Eat Rail
>>343436042
>Not liking Smugfish.
>>343438979
It's based on a nigra, it's a real animal.
Found in urban enviroments
I'm going to run solo with this guy with an Everstone.
>>343438864
Whoops, found it it's a NORMAL and Dragon type, even fucking worse.
>>343436042
You grew old. There.
>>343438994
I was piggybacking off of your sarcasm
>>343436183
Doesn't mean it's good. Avatar was a successful movie, but if you say it was a good movie you're fucked in the head.
>>343438940
I'm sure there's at least one.I know Simipour is one of my favorite pokemon from gen 5 personally speaking.
>>343439037
>Sleep Powder
>being good at all
Spore is literally the only good sleep status move.
And even then only a handful of Pokemon can even make use of that.
>>343439013
shouldn't
hate using this laptop
>>343439128
Volt Switch Into more of em Lol
>>343439068
Jesus christ
It doesn't look like Jynx, but it's fucking hideous
>>343437475
Sugimori just draws all the promotional art and even then, he's been scaling back as he ages. One man isn't in charge of making over 800 Pokemon, that'd be insane.
>>343439250
GREAT IDEA
>>343439037
>implying I would need to use spore on your sluggish ass. You aint Evading shiet nigga.
>>343438979
Well maybe when you take an art class or two you can talk. You don't know shit about character design
>>343438618
pikachu
>>343436894
Is that a Chinese meth dragon?
>>343438640
Because you weren't 10 when you first saw them.
Welcome to 11, broski.
>>343439245
Naw. NO umaru or Chaika garbage here. SO Sorry.
>>343437396
>The shit is beginning to outweigh the crap
It's been this way for a long time now. Starting with gen 3 the shittier designs started to get very numerous with each new gen getting even more shitty designs. The new pokemon also tend to have this weird stupid typing combinations just for the sake of having weird typing combinations. It feels so forced and unecessary desu.
>>343439245
I don't think you understand.
/vp/ was initially created because of the constant Pokemon related threads plaguing /v/, that being said, /v/ is still a place to discuss Pokemon. It's like having a discussion about music on /b/, for example. Just because it's music related doesn't mean it has to be /mu/ only.
>>343438618
Monster collecting games had been around Pokemon. All Pokemon did was popularize it. Yokai Watch might have come about because of Pokemon, but due to it becoming a good rival you can clearly see Pokemon start to mimic its style.
![f46ddbb9408474eed802f2393dab2e03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Te7YpU3.jpg "f46ddbb9408474eed802f2393dab2e03[1].jpg")
>>343436042
Guess people don't like Hawaiian animals much.
>>343439341
meant for
>>343439196
Thanks Chink Moot
>>343439369
Oh yeah? Well, then what about this
*unzips dick*
>>343439487
>name is actually cutiefly
>>343439446
This, everything should be Normal, Normal/Flying, Ground/Rock and Grass/Poison.
>>343439467
How is it mimicking it?
>>343439451
Freedum man looks pretty depressed there, poor guy.
But yeah, I don't think newer users here understand just how bad it was before /vp/ and /vg/ were made. If some faggot ran a notascriptipromise.js from /b/ then everything went to shit and /v/ was nearly unusable.
>>343438618
baku
>>343438420
is it bad that this is my favourite
reminds me of a transformer
>>343439802
I'd be both sad and disgusted if I were eating whatever the fuck he is eating. Fuckin White bread.
>>343439629
I wasn't kidding btw. The grass/poison thing isn't a must but having pokemon that are normal/fire? normal/dragon? ghost/steel? Now the last one is clearly just throwing shit together just so they can say they finally have a ghost/steel typing combination for their game.
![Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_004[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RHJ8yX0.jpg "Pokemon-Sun-Moon_07-01-16_004[1].jpg")
>>343439876
We're getting there.
We now have mech look-a-likes now.
>>343439959
how exactly is a possessed sword not Ghost/Steel?
Get this jabroni OUDDA here.
>>343439623
Pokemon names have always been uninspired. See Seel/Aron/Persian/Sunkern/Mankey/Ledyba/etc. The list could go on forever.
>>343437778
It's not a mosquito, it's a bee fly. Pic related.
>>343436042
Look up a triggerfish
>>343440086
>making a possessed sword pokemon in the first place
This is the problem right here.
>>343438861
probably not though
when was the last time a non-pikaclone electric type ended up shitty
even stunfisk is pretty mid-tier on a scale of viable to shitmon, electric types are always good
>>343440101
>>343440137
I really must admit, pokemon taught me about a lot of animals in the world that I had no clue existed.
>>343440028
Outside the face it doesn't look anything like a mech, more like a humanoid buff as fuck lizard.
Not that there's anything wrong with mechas, we had a robot since gen 1, a clay doll in gen 3 and a ground robogolem in gen 5.
>>343440028
literally a digimon
>>343439068
OP's image is also based off of a real animal, a triggerfish. A reef triggerfish specifically is found around Hawaii.
>>343440028
>Mewtwo was a Frieza knockoff
>now there's a Cell knockoff
BUU POKEMON WHEN?
>>343439487
>>343439623
>literally a dragon killer
>>343440167
then don't complain about the type, Make the statement that there is nothing Pocket Monster about a ghost sword.
It's actually a good concept but there is no background to it besides oh duh it's probably some dudes spirit but how is that even a monster at this point? Pocket monster is basically the name for anything that isn't human in Pokemon's universe.
>>343436042
WE ALL LIVE IN A YELLOW SUBMARINE
>>343440028
This and that onion cat are some of my most hated designs. This because it's completely out of place in the series. The onion because it's one of the ugliest designs outside of some of the ones revealed recently.
>>343440415
Get in.
>>343440351
2002
>>343440457
>onion cat
what?
Fact is, they've more or less done everything there is to do.
>>343440520
bud whud aboud kid buu
>>343440294
>triggerfish
literally pandering to SJWs
I dare anyone to find any pokemon design, new or old, that is worse and more unoriginal than this one.
>>343440595
machop i guess
>>343440546
Maybe he is talking about celebi? that is an onion but not really a cat..
>>343440380
>then don't complain about the type
Don't be stupid. I complained about the type first because I was making a point in my previous posts. That's when your ass showed up saying
>hurr no complain the way I tell you too because it triggers my autism durr.
>>343440595
Hal's got you covered.
>>343440546
It's even worse in motion. That giant ring tube separates becomes two ugly malformed claw tubes. I will take Ice Cream cones and odd looking Coral Men over this fucking thing any day.
>>343440642
Easy
>>343440687
who was Babidi and who was Bibidi?
>>343440101
that's cute.
>>343440776
best pokemon
>>343436042
It's not that the design is bad, it's just that the design of the animal it's based on is bad.
>>343436042
It's based on a Trigger Fish
Its ability automatically makes all priority moves fail. We don't know if that includes things like Protect yet.
>>343440720
Hah is that how you admit to being incorrect? Step up Sempai
>>343440786
How is that worse?
Seel is literally a seal with a horn.
>genwunners will attack this
>>343440941
You are clearly a child with very poor reading comprehension.
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded
>>343437396
Sugi still makes designs, the problem is actually that a lot of the shittiest designs are coming from him, while the white piggu they hired is making most of the best designs.
It's a case of the artist losing his edge.
>>343440776
It's CERN's Large Hadron Collider
>>343438420
cute as fuck
>>343440786
puppy pokes are the cutest
>>343440974
Lillipup is literally a dog
This gen has some of the worst reveals so far i mean they are mostly basic animals like a fucking dog a cat and a fuckign koala
>>343440898
Don't know why they haven't included other animal based designs first. They choose this over a Lion fish for example.
>>343441081
It's CERN's Large Ugly Fetal Alcohol Child.
>>343438639
It's this gens metapod.
>>343441051
You have loaded responses that are so un-creative I honestly am replying for your benefit.
>>343439196
>Spore is literally the only good sleep status move.
Dark Void
>>343438861
Nah it'll probably be okay. It looks like it'll have a good speed stat have some decent attacks under its belt.
>>343441216
The koala's ability is called Comatose.
I'm willing to bet his evolution has him die and he becomes a ghost type.
>>343441258
False
You keep replying because you want the last word. Also known as a child that is upset he isn't getting what he wants. Get over yourself kid nobody is even responding to any of our replies.
>>343441267
Just let him live in ignorance, It makes the board more lively.
>>343441267
>Dark Void
Yeah a great move that literally two Pokemon can have, one of which is banned and the other is shit.
>>343438861
Remember that pokemon are stated based off look. Ever wonder why so many ice types are bulky even though Ice is the worst defensive type? Because every ice type is a fatass, the only speedy ice types look fast (Frostlass and Weavile)
That thing has a Sizor tier look, and Sizor has amazing stats and is one of the best bug types in the game.
I can see it having a pretty good stat.
>>343441184
Lillipup has a face mat, a back tuft, and rabbit ears.
It's really, really fucking bad, but not as bad as seel.
>>343441184
I'd rather have a dog than a horned seal, compadre.
>>343441440
so how did your dad's dick taste?
>>343441509
>Smogon
>>>/vp/
>>343441676
Might aswell just play a team full of landorus Sweepers bro
>>343441676
Darkrai is banned even on the regular ranked online matches.
>>343441664
>still replying
>being this buttblasted someone out there doesn't really care for the new pokemon typings or designs the way your autistic self does
There is a reason why /vp/ was created. Modern pokemon fans are too autistic for even /v/ to tolerate.
>>343440891lewd
>>343441835
Salty or Sweet?
>>343441226
No thats Arya stark/Maisie williams
>>343441216
That koala reminds me of the kid from wind waker with the red orb for some reason
>>343441226
Isn't the worlds most forgettable pokemon a lion-fish?
>>343441258
is he browsing exhentai
>>343441909
kys my man
>>343441957
no it's SUPERMAN!
>>343436042
I'm going to use one of these online just to trigger tourneyfags
>>343441790
>Battle with your RL and online friends
>Using your bros that you played through the story with, ones you nicknamed Doctor Dre, etc.
>Throw out a legendary for lols or because you forgot to box it
>Opponent turns of their game and says that that pokemon is banned and you're not allowed to use it because a website said so
>>343438621
My favorite pokemon is remoraid.
>inb4 I'm just saying this to be contrarian
>>343442026NETORAREyes he is, why aren't you?
>>343436042
>Sharks kept telling everyone to suck their dick
>Pokemon wildlife evolved to fill this need
Amazing
>>343439467
You didn't answer his question. What specific Yokai is it knocking off?
>>343442149
>lying on the internet
Don't do that anon.
>>343442067
if it actually turns out to have good stats so will everyone
dazzle is fucking god tier
>>343436042
im reserving judgement, they like to do weird things with fish then have better evolutions
>>343442028
Im working on it
>>343442149
You can't use Darkrai in official online competitions unless allowed as well. Not to mention VGC before this year.
>>343437475
Sugimori has literally never done all the designs. He didn't even do the majority of gen 1.
>>343442242
Not copying something from it, mimicking its style. That fish looks less like a Pokemon more like something you'd see in that game. The eyes and the mouth.
>>343442502
not to mention It's pretty much pointless about complaining about theft from a previously stolen idea anyways. the only thing they use that is original is a japanese word for ghost or spirit.
>>343442502
What looks like a Pokemon?
>>343442283
nigger, when was the last time a fish pokemon had good stats? never, thats when
>>343442502
Anon confirms it, Goldeen is a YW monster. Sad, i liked it.
>>343442652
thats the question I posed to the guy who got triggered cause he wasn't down with ghost swords. It's not about the fact that the type is hamfisted, the design is hamfisted not the attributes given to it after being designed as something that wouldn't fit the description of pocket monster
that keyring for instance
I do like Chandelure though.
>>343442731
Excuse me? Gyarados
>>343442731
ayylmaola was actually pretty ok
>>343442992
gyarados is a sea serpent, not a fish...
>>343442731
Sharpedo.
>>343443223
you can't trick me, Magikarp aint no sea serpent.
we go through this every single news announcement
NOBODY knows what makes a "pokemon" design
>>343440028
>potentinal for 1200 BST Dragon/Ground with an attack that nullifies Ground immunity typing and abilities
Hell will come to earth as a Gundam.
>>343437192
do you ever regret saying something
>>343442009
There isn't any lion fish pokemon.
>>343442009
No that's a pufferfish. Lumineon is based on a mix of fish anywhere from the butterfly fish to the neon tetra.
>>343444160
Lumineon is a fresh water buttefly fish, never use the english name to determine what it's based on.
>>343436640
>Humuhumunukunukuapua`a
This doesn't sound as long if you realize it is humu x2 + nuku x2 + apua`a
>>343437475
Interns design the Pokemon since gen 5? IIRC
Where have you fags been? Sugi is fucking done with drawing, he's tired of Pokemon
>>343444925
Gen 1. Hell, the most awful like Magneton and Exeggcute are from him.
The one who made Pikachu, Charizard's line, etc also made Squirtle, Wartortle but not Blastoise, Dratini and Dragonair but not Dragonite.
>>343436042
the fish its ok, but the dragon and the electric bus bug are awful
![583[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/L6ZykY9.png "583[1].png")
At least we don't have any pokemon based off of objects, right lads?
>>343446319
I unironically fucking love the snowcones. I just wish their speed was higher.
>>343446319
The icecream cones are the best idea. It's an icicle shaped like an existing object.
>>343446319
Lobotomy ice cream cones.
>>343436042
Get over it.
>these new pokémon looks like digimon
>oh wow they're making food and inanimate pokémon
>they got out of ideas
Pokémon has been out for 20 years and almost every idea behind what people think is a bad, new pokémon has been used on the past, including on gen 1.
>one of the pokemon that actually resembles a real species that is fitting to the region
>FUCKING POKEMON DESIGNS GET DUMBER EVERY GEN. THERE'S ONLY 150 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>343436894
grandpa dragon is based af
>>343436894
>people like this design
>>343447572
that's completely different okay?
>>343447717
I didn't like it at first, but it's starting to grow on me
also as long as we're posting shit of questionable design
>>343448008
>>343447572
>Post retarded looking new gen pokemon
>people post retarded looking previous gen pokemon
>they somehow think that proves the first doesn't look retarded
>>343448382
Way to miss the point retard
Well /v/?
https://youtu.be/rM_3dvsnHHo
>>343436894
oh shit its puff the magic dragon
>>343448382
It's to disprove the notion that newer gens are getting worse with their designs.
Pokemon has always had an even split of good and shit designs all the way through.
>that useless fish pokemon just to fill in every gen
>a bug type that flies
>a dragon
>a digimon legendary
>a new pikachu
>another fire type that you will probably get early on, so choosing the starter fire type will be pointless
Is just meh to me.
Last few gens had like a poo/shitmon, an icecream and keys. What will be this gen? A door? Another sombrero? A yellow banana? Belts and Zippers?
>>343449541
B-but the new ones have more!
>why do you say that?
Because i dislike them!
>>343449541
the only good desing so far has been the owl and the cat, and we know the cat evolves into shitty bara porn bait
The rest so far has been garbage.
>>343449875
Now see that's just you having shit taste and/or being obstinate so you can preserve your pride on an anonymous imageboard
Vikavolt is easily the best designed 3 stage bug type since Beedrill and Cutiefly is just that.
>>343449875
>Litten evolves into a shitty bara porn bait
It's second form has been revealed?
>>343449601
>Beltos
>Stell/Dark
>design is just a bunch of belts forming a ball
>he evolves to Zippetos if it reaches level 46 or higher at 4:44 AM while holding the 3DS Upside down and shaking it left and right
>its the same but this time with zippers all over it and some goofy looking eye blinking through
I can see that becoming a thing.
>>343450307
It's been "leaked". It may or may not turn out to be real, but seems likely to be.
>>343450307
Litten is Fire/Fighting in its final form.
>>343449875
>we know
there is no "we" and "we" know nothing at all about the final starters, youre pulling shit out your ass and stating them as fact.
>>343450417
Pic? if it's the one that looks like a bipedal litten with whiskers that's been proven fake for a while.
>>343439369
>implying art school isn't the rape of independent thought
>>343450307
final evo, notes from the devs. He becomes a wrestler tiger that shoots firebeams out of his WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
Owl becomes an edgy assasin and the clown becomes furry waifu.
Just have an image of the waifu shit and not the bara bait but it comes from that batch of leaks.
>>343450219
>oh yeah it has a saw as a mouth! COOL AND EDGEY!!!
its your taste, not mine but I can also call you out on your shittaste, Summervisitor.
>>343451068
I've seen those designs and they're fake as fuck. They're even less convincing than the Clown Seal.
>>343441509
>smeargle
>shit
>>343450559
This one, I think. It's not the only Bipedal Litten thing so I dunno.
>>343451385
your amount of asshurt will be great once this comes out as true.
