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Is it a good game?
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Best game Bioware has produced to this day
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Taris is GOAT Planet
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>>343400184
Yeah. Aged decently well, too. Which is saying something.
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>>343400184
No
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>>343400184

Playable on mobile these days too.

Great game.
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My favorite game of all time tbqh. Its aged suprsingly well too
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>>343402961
Please.
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>>343400184
nigger I am downloading the game as we type and wanted to make a thread about it, what the fuck
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I'm downloading the game right now, just want to get past the first Sith planet though

Remember really enjoying Kashyk
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>>343400184
That, Kotor 2 and Galaxies are the only good SW RPGs there are somehow. Waiting for a spiritual successor to Galaxies to this date, emu sucks
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>>343400184

Yeah. It also has the best western tsundere character.
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>>343400184
>kotortanic
>good
Just play the ME series if you haven't yet.
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Yes, I'd say greatest of all time but that goes to the witcher 3. Skyrim is close behind. Also, please don't spoil the witcher because i havent finished it yet
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>>343400184
Only if you are a hardcore fan of D&D combat system.
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>>343400184

It is. Remember to download the Steam version. Otherwise it's barely playable.
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>>343403386
Were ... whatever the magic class was in ME worth it in ME2?
I know they were hilariously OP in ME1... but then again guns didn't need ammo in ME1 so there ya go
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>>343400184
Why the it's not on sale, is it because of EA?
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>>343403445
>Skyrim is close behind
This is bait
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>>343403619

LE I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION IS IT IS BAIT MEME

WELL LISTEN HERE MEME MAN

I AM TIRED OF YOUR SHIT
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It's OK.
2 is OK-er
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>>343401063

Dragon Age: Origins is better.

The combat in KOTOR is too much like a pen and paper RPG (dice rolls) and there are math puzzles, which aren't necessarily bad in their own right, but math isn't intuitive. If you don't remember algebra and trigonometry from high school, you either have to look up the solutions or solve the puzzles with violence (dark side). I played the game for the first time earlier in the year and didn't look solutions up, but I actually had to review those subjects like I was about to be given an exam and remember thinking how fucking lame that felt.

KOTOR is a good game, no doubt, but DA:O is better.
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>>343404367
>that fucking tower of hanoi puzzle
>they even reused it for mass effect
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>>343404367
>If you don't remember algebra and trigonometry from high school, you either have to look up the solutions or solve the puzzles with violence (dark side).

Fucking what.

The puzzles are tedious, not hard.
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>KOTOR2 got a major patch out of nowhere last year and now runs perfectly at modern configurations
>KOTOR1 still crashes most of the time on higher resolutions
Fuck you Disney
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Fuck, I have to finally get around finishing this game ;-;
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>>343404587

A lot of people dislike that puzzle, too. I thought it felt strangely out of place, but I didn't really have any qualms with it, because the game tells you the rules. It is time consuming as fuck, though.
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>>343405017
When asked about a Kotor 1 PC patch Aspyr-Blair (the guy from Aspyr who handled Kotor2's patch) is just suggesting people to play their updated Kotor 1 on mobile.

I think they (Aspyr and Disney) will hold Kotor 1 PC back as long as they can, to make people buy the mobile version.
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Aren't they making a remake of KOTOR games?
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>>343404954

The hunting bots on Tatooine require math to solve without slicing and one of the methods to acquire the sith card key on Manaan requires math.
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>>343400184
DUDE WATER LEVEL LMAO
I don't like this fucking game, I got a bug and couldn't complete one of the last side missions about rescuing some guy.
I don't know why this game gets so much praise aside from muh star wars nostalgia boner, it's barely better than Jade Empire.
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I named my character Revan on both games
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>>343403747(You)
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It got me really hooked on the RPG genre. I pirated knew nothing about it, expecting something like Jedi Academy. At first I was pissed off as the game seemed like shit, movement didn't feel like Jedi Acadamy at all, can't even jump, the graphics are uglier, wtf is going on. However the more I played, the more I liked it, couldn't pry myself away from the PC by the end of the day.

I have Kotor to thanks for making me try out other games like Fallout, Arcanum, Bloodlines, Deus Ex, Neverwinter Nights and all that good shit.
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Korriban is the best planet. Evil magical tombs are my fetish.
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>>343406412
>no real argument
> feels the need to get the last word
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Can we all agree that Tatooine is the worst planet to play?
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>>343409169
>Tatooine
Nope, it's Dantooine. What a boring ass planet, nothing but farmers
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>>343409260
Aesthetically I like Tatooine. But it has the worst missions. Kill Sand niggers here kill sand niggers there. There's the swoop track but who cares about that shit. Then it ends with you just getting the Star Map and not even fighting the Krayt Dragon. Slight bonus points for HK.
At least Dantooine has some interesting missions like the family fued, the murder mystery and the persuade battle with Juhani. But minus points for Juhani because she's a crap character.
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>>343400184
Yes. Not great, but good.
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>>343409260
At least Dantooine is smaller than Tatooine.
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>>343403001
Wait what?
I'd kill to have this on my phone.
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>>343400184
The gameplay is terrible, but the story faggotry is pretty good.

Last Bioware game without an out homosexual.
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>>343411343
Carth sure acts like one.
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>>343404367
>>343405515
>complaining about middle school-level math
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>>343411343
Juhani is a lesbian.
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>>343400184
Yes, I just finished it a couple of weeks ago.
It starts out a bit slow but gets much better as you progress. There's only one thing to keep in mind, on the first planet try to stay as low level as possible, under no circumstance level past 5.
You'll become a jedi right after and the saved levels will translate into more jedi powers and funner combat for the rest of the game.
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>>343404367

Jade Empire is better than DA:O.

>>343403445

This is a shitty waste of a post but if you're gonna bring up the Witcher, I want to say how similar I found the first game and KOTOR. The dialogue system is identical and the combat has a similar turn based feel and flashy choreography.

Probably why I loved it so much. I've been a fan of KOTOR since I was a tween, so I ate TW1 up with a spoon.
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>>343409576
>Juhani because she's a crap character.
wut? she is best jedi-material
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>>343409260

That comfy ass music though senpai.
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>>343409576
>Kill Sand niggers here kill sand niggers there.

Sparing and siding with the sand people is actually really interesting. They have a distinct culture and even a historian, like the Rakata. An educated guy who gives you a shitload of backstory and is kind of a bro too.
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>>343411673
Can't you just level up without increasing stats and skills and use them once you are a jedi?
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>>343412317
I don't think so. Finishing Taris at lv5 is no trouble at all either, and depending on your class you could easily finish it at lv2.
Just save up some grenades for the very last segment and you're golden.
If you level up too much you will only be able to max out 2-3 skills later.
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>>343411589
Doesn't count and you know it.
In 2003, space lesbians were fanservice rather than LGBT pandering, and it shows in the writing. As much as lesbian fanservice was cancer, I regret it now that we have the gender bender freak show.
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>>343409169
No, it's Korriban
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>>343400184
It's my favourite along with jsrf
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>>343412883
That was my favorite planet, fuck you.
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>>343411506

Did you actually find them fun? I'm not complaining about them, I'm arguing that they're bad puzzle because nothing in the game prepares you for them, and that they're uninteresting and unimaginative because they're literal fucking math problems. At least if you're going to have something mundane, put a quirky spin on it like Papers, Please.
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>>343400184
The combat is shit, the writing is mostly just passable and some segments like the underwater section in Manaan are just awful, but despite that I'd say it's still worth playing mostly so that you can play the much better sequel afterwards
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>>343405274

Just the first KOTOR right now, on unreal engine. It's called KOTOR: Apeiron and the developers said it would be free when it eventually releases.
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>>343400184
its a rip off mass effect with worse graphics
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>>343413764
Your (You), sir.
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>>343413712
I will play the everloving fuck out of that game
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>>343413712
>>343414798
Gonna be a riot when Disney sends them a C&D.
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>>343409576
siding with the sand niggers is the best part. I might be misremembering it, but I'm sure you can fight the dragon. Or do you just feed it explosives or something?
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If you want to play a d20-style game, the Baldur's Gate series (especially BG2) will offer you a superior experience.

If you want to play a space opera, Mass Effect (especially Mass Effect 2) is again an improvement on KOTOR.

And this is just looking at Bioware's track record. KOTOR is the best Star Wars game ever made but it's aged poorly, more so than the other two games I've mentioned anyway.
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Such a terrible thing, to not just skip to KOTOR II.
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I got both in a big Star Wars pack during the last winter sale.

I keep hearing that the first one crashes a lot. Do you need to play the first to play the second? Because if the first constantly crashes' I'd probably end up skipping it.
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>>343418113
To be honest, I like more the first one.
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>>343418113
to be honest having oneself acquainted with KotOR1 is obligatory to fully enjoy KotOR2's masterful writing
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>>343418112
>especially Mass Effect 2
lol
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>>343413450
no fuck you leather man.
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>>343418113
I drop kotor2 everytime I start again
First zone is just unbearable garbage, worst shit in the history of rpg
I guess 10 years ago I had worse taste and beat it only because of that
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>>343405271
I did play it on mobile, holy fuck the ebon hawk tower controls are shit, so are the swoop bike controls, other than that decent tho
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It's alright
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>>343416101
They said on their website they thought it would be perfectly legal, but their reasoning was pretty shit. Oh well. Another dream shot down by the kikes.
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I remember literally spamming flurry for the entire game. What other builds are good?
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>>343419207
Spamming Force Storm
Spamming Stasis Field and Force Storm
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>>343403386
kotor =! tor you meme spouting newfag
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>>343400184
I really hate the moral choice system in this game. It's probably one of the worst parts of the game next to the braindead gameplay
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>>343418113
That's just silly, you absolutely have to have played the first game to fully appreciate KOTOR 2
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>>343400184
Yeah, its wortg playing through once. But KOTOR 2 with the restoration mod was better, pretty much KOTOR but with more skills and better gameplay.
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>>343411256
Bought it on a whim when it was on sale for a dollar. It's $10 for Android and iOS. I haven't played it yet and probably never will.
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>>343400184
Yes. Back from when Star Wars was still a decent franchise, and Bioware made good games. I like the first game's locations (and maybe musical score) more, but in most other aspects, KOTOR 2 is superior
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>>343418243
You dont need the 1st to play the second. The first crashes alot more than the 2nd, the second with restoration mod crashes rarly. But in order to fully enjoy the 2nd game, play the first.
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>>343419663
Gee anon, what's so bad about only being able to be a naive goodie-two-shoes or an edgelord murderer?
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>>343400184
It's overrated and the tweest is only amusing if you're twelve.

It was also really fucking easy. By the time you got force wave as a consular you could just spam it to kill everything, including Malak if you had half decent Wis and Cha.
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Did other games try out one of the plot twists of KOTOR 2?

That being, the Exile actually grows stronger from killing shit; explaining XP.
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>>343421465
undertail
Souls games
Diablo 3
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>>343421465
>everybody always foams about the OH MY GOD YOU WERE THE DEAD BAD GUY ALL ALONG twist in Kotor 1
>nobody ever talks about Kotor 2's twist regarding the Exile which actually explains why he grows stronger over the course of the game and has extremely loyal party members who'll follow him to their deaths, both common RPG tropes

why is this allowed
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>>343400184
The game is extremely cheesy, but if you're prepared to treat the game the same way you treated the movies when you were twelve, you should enjoy it. That is a must though, otherwise you'll spend every second holding back vomit over the game's dialog and plot.
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>>343422382
Because most of people back then saw shit like that and not just once?
Oh wait, don't tell me you thought obsidian were the fist one who came with it? You can't be serious
How old are you?
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>>343422818
>Because most of people back then saw shit like that and not just once?
I didn't know that subverting RPG tropes and actually having them be explained by the game's plot instead of just being gameplay abstractions was a very common thing back in 2004, I guess I'm just silly for thinking that Kotor 1's main twist was much more mundane in comparison

>Oh wait, don't tell me you thought obsidian were the fist one who came with it? You can't be serious
I never claimed that

>How old are you?
Why are you asking?
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>>343423539
>Why are you asking?
Because of
>didn't know that subverting RPG tropes and actually having them be explained by the game's plot instead of just being gameplay abstractions was a very common thing back in 2004
It's actually became less common with time
So you being underage showing
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>>343423684
Why aren't you citing examples of RPGs that had done similar things at the time then? From the top of my head I can think of Planescape Torment, which is kind of an extreme example since the designers went out of their way to not make a typical RPG and had the same lead writer as Kotor 2
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>>343422818
Because YOU WERE THE BAD GUY ALL ALONG was so much more original and interesting, right ?
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>>343400184
Yes. Writing is excellent, story is conventional but well-told, with a decent twist near the end.
Combat is decent, but unless you're constantly micromanaging all three party members, it can get overly simple.
Graphics are great for 2003.
Music is God-Tier. Same composer as Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD4YUEd18R0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXk6TYQd4K0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8tYdGTQdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKvMyruPTA
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>>343400184
Yes, are you planning on playing it?
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