Ashen Ones,
The regulation version 1.09 will be deployed on July 1st.
The update will not require any patch or maintenance.
Please find below the full list of changes included in this version:
All Dagger weapons: increased critical attack power.
Dark Sword: reduced weapon efficiency.
Anri’s Straight Sword: reduced scaling effects.
Wolnir’s Holy Sword: added faith scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
Crescent Moon Sword: added intelligence scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
Morne’s Great Hammer: added faith scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
Lothric’s Holy Sword: added faith scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
Yorshka’s Spear: increased FP damage effects.
Scholar’s Candlestick: reduced sorcery-strengthening properties
Demon’s Fist: reduced weight.
Greatsword of Judgement: increased attack power.
Heysel’s Pick: increased intelligence scaling.
All shield-piercing weapons: added shield-piercing properties to regular attacks.
All Skills that enchant a weapon with special properties: extended length of effect.
Obscuring Ring: increased distance at which ring takes effect.
Hornet Ring: adjusted efficiency.
Black Serpent: adjusted tracking.
Lightning Stake: now requires 1 attunement slot.
Magic Barrier/Great Magic Barrier: extended length of effect.
Divine Pillars of Light: increased attack power.
White Dragon Breath: reduced stamina consumption.
All Bug Pellet items: extended length of effect.
Addressed other game balance issues and fixed other flaws.
Embrace the Darkness!
>>343397564
>Dark Sword: reduced weapon efficiency.
SHITTERS BTFO
People still play DaS3?
>>343397564
this seems a good patch.
that's how I know it's fake.
>>343397678
Currently starting back playing it again just so I can get the remaining two trophies I need.
>>343397726
http://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/606114300066630321
>we're basically nerfing everything in the game.
The Hornet RIng nerf is common sense, as are the nerfs to the Dark Sword and Anri's Speedrun Sword, but
>Obscuring Ring and Sorcery nerfs
That shit ain't needed; both are already hard and shit enough repectively already.
The scaling being added to a many weapons is cool though, too bad most of them have split damage and thus are still crap.
It's a start though.
Nerfs to Carthus Curved Sword and patch for Astora Greatsword when?
>>343397779
>it doesn't say "adjusted ;)"
I still don't believe it.
>>343397898
>sorcery nerfs
u wot
>>343397564
>All Bug Pellet items: extended length of effect
Noice
>>343397898
>astora greatsword needing nerfs
wat
>>343398005
It has real high base damage. It will easily become the new Dark Sword. Although, if you just nerf everything, they will all be just plain old longswords.
>>343397564
>heavy armors still useless
>magic still uselss
>miracles still useless
>poison still useless
>corrosive stuff still useless
>darkmoon covenant still useless
>wolf ring still useless
>>343397564
>Anri’s Straight Sword: reduced scaling effects.
rip
>>343398152
It's got good scaling and base damage. That's not a good enough reason to nerf it.
Are you sure you're not just one of those estus shitters that gets punished by it for trying to roll away for a sippy?
>>343397962
>Scholar’s Candlestick: reduced sorcery-strengthening properties
That was a major source of sorcey damage right there.
Unless they do a stealth magic damage increase to compensate, magic is gonna be a whole lot weaker.
They did at least increase the weapon options for mage build by making Crescent Moon Sword and Greatsword of Judgement better.
Moonlight Greatsword is just about the one decent option atm.
>>343398005
It doesn't need a nerf, it needs a patch. It has a bugged R1.
The ground slam does thrust damage and for some odd reason it's unparryable.
>>343398005
>>343398152
has the greatest poke ever, with huge damage.
>>343398371
Pretty sure I'm not.
Still, I'd like heavy weapons to be at least close to fast ones in terms of damage per stamina points spent, especially when poise isn't working.
>>343397564
>Lightning Stake: now requires 1 attunement slot.
>Magic Barrier/Great Magic Barrier: extended length of effect.
>Divine Pillars of Light: increased attack power.
One buff at a time until miracles are viable again...I'll be patient...
>>343398496
>>343398174
You guys really need to fuck off with this poise meme. It ruined DS1's pvp and in DS2 no one cared about it.
Hyper armor is superior to poise, and adding poise to the game will only make the r1 spam shitter problem even worse.
>>343398382
The candlestick was an overkill. I one-two shot people with crystal spear with unbuffed logan's catalyst. I'd rather have something to parry with in my left hand.
>Hornet Ring: adjusted efficiency.
What did they mean with this?
>>343398593
You really need to fuck off with this hyper armor meme.
Adding poise to the game is the only real solution to r1 spam shitter problem.
But is it still impossible to be summoned as a dorkmoon and still require 10+ hours of farming to get lots of ears?
What exactly did they do to the Obscuring Ring? Any videos of the new range?
>>343398681
>require 10+ hours of farming
Nah, never did. You can easily be done with it in just 6 hours.
>>343398382
Greatsword of Judgement made me so sad. Such top tier fashion with such terrible stats. I guess I'll have to give it another try once the DLC comes out and I play DS3 again.
>>343397564
>Morne’s Great Hammer: added faith scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
>Wolnir’s Holy Sword: added faith scaling and adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly.
YES
MAKE FAITH GREAT AGAIN
>>343398667
Probably made it worthless. Gotta pander to those fight club faggots. Who gives a fuck about regular invaders who have to fight gank squads.
DLC announcement when?
>>343398245
On the bright side, speedruns might get interesting again.
Probably not though.
>>343398805
FUCK. It was so fun to parry a bunch of shitters ganking people and making them afraid of attacking you.
>>343398805
>Who gives a fuck about regular invaders
You said it, mate. Why should the guy forcing pvp on others instead of real pvpers have a fair chance? You're just an obstacle in their pve world at that point and don't "deserve" a fair fight any more than the mobs do.
>>343398805
I thought everyone loves Hornet, and especially fight club faggots. Landing a riposte with it gonna make the crowd cheer for you even more.
>>343398593
Hyperarmor would be a fine system if the game developed with it and only it in mind, but it currently feels like they tried to mix both poise and hyperarmor into one system early on in development and only later on half-heartedly changed it to one that uses hyperarmor nearly exclusively.
>>343398597
With how hard to land spells are at the moment, the damage on them needed to be high to compensate.
Combine the Candlestick nerf with the nerf to Obcuring Ring, and now mages are going to be at the lowest point they've ever been in DaS3.
>>343398770
It's definately my fashion-fu.
Looks like a Regal Bastard Sword.
>magic Nerfed even further
Thank God I still haven't completed the old hunters.
As a mournes hammer user this is nothing but good news to me.
>>343399097
And that delicious sparkling grape enchant. God damn From why.
>>343398593
>You guys really need to fuck off with this poise meme
Did I mention poise anywhere in my post?>>343398174
no. I stated the fact that heavy armors and the wolf ring are useless, so fuck off.
>>343398805
>>343398936
>>343398994
>>343399002
Hornet Ring actually got buffed.
>>343399002
I remember for a while in Dark Souls using it was frowned upon, Dark Woodgrain as well.
People who cared hosted in areas with water, so you'd need to wear Rusted Iron Ring.
>>343399402
I don't give a shit about the hornet ring, I just also don't give a shit about crying invaders.
>>343399428
>hosted in areas with water, so you'd need to wear Rusted Iron Ring
This is the scummiest move ever. I'd rather play with ninjaflipping hornets than with these faggots.
>>343398671
Actually it makes it worse, try playing DS1 sometime. Two builds exist: one for stunlocking with R1 mashing and one for stacking enough poise to poise through a few R1 mash hits and BS.
>>343399623
Played it more than you did.
>>343399517
Go play a real fighting game loser. You fight club faggots need your skulls caved in.
>>343397564
They haven't patched the game being mediocre as fuck.
Aaaaa why is this game so hard
Auto summon covenants fixed yet? If not fuck off
>>343399764
>Implying I pvp in DS3
No dude, I just understand what invaders are for, and it isn't to engage in balanced combat. That's why I find it so funny when the most pvp complaints come from invaders whining about how unfair the game is.
>>343398994
Stop playing darksouls if you don't want to get invaded. Fucking cowards are afraid of one or two invaders when they're with 3 phantoms. That's why you lose so much.
>>343398005
>Astora Great Sword + Leo Ring
>shitter comes in your direction waving his Dork Sword
>while you charge your two handed poke
>release the poke while he attacks you
>1 shot kill
Makes sense, I just hope they don't fuck with the lateral slash damage, that was ok.
>>343399996
Faithful worked flawlessly for me, sometimes I couldn't even take off the covenant insignia before I got summoned again.
It's the other two that never worked.
>>343398593
>Hyper armor is superior to poise
No. Fuck having naked characters hyper through attacks, and then stagger heavily armoured enemies.
If anything, fuck off with your "PVP is sacred" meme. The PVP is but a complement to the single player, not the other way around. If the game only had single player, people would still play the Souls games. If the games only had PVP, the games would fail miserably.
The game is broken without poise. Fix poise for crying out loud and then balance the game as best as possible after that's taken cared off.
>>343397564
So, Blue Eye Orb never?
>>343400085
Lol dipshit, i'm not complaining about getting invaded. I'm telling invaders to stop being little bitches and accept the fact that From cares more about the invaded's experience than the dickwraithes.
>>343399623
Lack of poise reminds me of demon's souls though, were you essentially gimped yourself by wearing armor. Poise made armor worthwhile. I'm not sure what they did with it in DS2 but I imagine it worked best since there were the least amounts of complaints about it.
>>343400298
In DS2 they just drastically raised the poise thresholds at which you could poise through the attacks.
All DS3 had to do to fix poise is just take the middle ground between the two previous games.
Instead of bringing poise back, why not increase the both weight and damage reduction disparity between lighter and heavier armors at the same time? Heavier armors become impossible to wear without fatrolling or putting a ludicrous amount in VIT, but in return they absorb damage even better than NPC mobs and bosses. So they can't dodge for shit but have so much defense that they can reliably muscle through boss attacks (through hyper armor), can eat even Hornet ripostes without dying and getting hit while taking a sippy still results in a lot of health gained.
Sloppy, clumsy and with no poise but very hard to kill.
>>343401324
>instead of fixing the issue by simply enabling one thing that was specifically designed to do that
>why not do all these different things as a band-aid for the issue?
does anyone still play this shit? after getting the platinum i dont feel like ever playing it again except for when the dlc comes. everything but the bosses in this game is extremely underwhelming. i dont even know if the dlc can redeem it
>>343401441
But it's not a band aid. The lack of difference between protection of medium and heavy armors vs cloth robes is a whole other issue on its own. Defense and poise are both different ways of achieving similar goals, although poise focuses more on letting the tank player be aggressive.
The ideal would be Armored Core style balance for Tank ACs but I'm willing to accept just having a whole lot of durability above all else.
>>343401723
Damage reduction alone wouldn't cut it, because you'd be an easy target for poke stunning when not attacking. And you can't constantly be attacking with heavy weapons, because they eat a fuckton of stamina and further expose you to a counter attack when you miss. And having to invest even more into carry weight for heavy armor, would mean you'd have even less points to spend on stamina.
Although I do agree, that using heavy armor/light weapon combo that would let the enemy poise through attacks and just circle around you and backstab is an issue as well.
>>343400069
Why are you even in this thread? Who the fuck cares about balance changes if you just play single player?
>>343402168
I can be interested in any thread I want, besides, It's either this or animu shit/SF/overwatch. Unless you can actually refute the points I've stated you can remain BTFO.
>>343397564
So... is poise still "working as intended"?
Because it really sucks when armor and heavy weapons are redundant.
>>343397564
>Lightning Stake: now requires 1 attunement slot.
So they realized the miracle was utter then? That's something I guess.
But when will they realize that all the Lightning Spears are utter trash as well?
>>343398174
This.
DaS3 was so bloody disappointing
>>343402554
No point in arguing with you if you don't touch pvp at all.
>It's either this or animu shit/SF/overwatch
Get your eyes fixed
Have any of you ever worried about weapon durability on this game? I've nevet used repair powder nor i had to care about durability because it takes forever for the weapon to wear out.
I remember back in Ds2 i had to carry two weapons to take care of both thrash mobs and strong enemies. Weapons would break regularly if overused.
>>343398593
>You guys really need to fuck off with this poise meme
HAHAHAHAHAHA good one, nice attempt at damage control anon.
Poise is extremely relevant and important. Without it you totally invalidate slow weapons, PVP strategy and armor variety.
>>343402761
One step at a time anon, i'd take a slow and steady buff to miracles than a sudden boom on them without any field testing to avoid overbuffing them and making miracles Ds1 tier.
>>343402761
It's not actually, it's one of the best, if not the best lightning spell. It's just it's only problem that it can only be used in conjunction with regular lightning spears as a feint to bait the enemy into rolling into it.
>>343399805
Agreed, DaS3 was the laziest sequel in the trilogy.
Linear as fuck
Boring as fuck
Cloned as fuck
FUCKED as fuck
honestly I think they just knew people would preorder and buy it anyway after the first 2 games...
>>343402902
At least you have hyper armor during your swings if thats of any consolation
>almost nothing that affects my giga nigga great club/great axe character
Invading can be fun.
>>343402870
My Avelyn got to half durability once after I invaded three times without touching a bonfire.
Anyone know if AutoSummons work again, or are they still fucked?
>>343403179
I'm surprised the host didn't just pull the plug.
I swear 90% of my invasions and like that, I mean those in which I actually manage to corner the host and don't just get gangbanged by forty phantoms.
>>343403179
>twinking
>Invading can be fun
>>343403014
And with the faith/attunement investment required to do that "efficiently", you could be a master Sorcerer or Pyromancer instead and do at least twice as good.
>>343403336
You can't twink in DS3, imbecile.
>>343403191
Depends on your account. No seriously. New accounts are given priority for auto summons, older ones are given no priority.
>that PVE magic nerf
>magic nerf
>>343402853
I'm not interested in arguing about balance or poise or any of that shit and I never attempted to, I can argue about the role of PVP in the game all I want because I have a holistic comprehension of the game (thats not bragging, its just having a normal amount of chromosomes). I just don't have any drive to keep playing the game after getting plat until more content comes out. And what did I miss in my description of /v/? I guess there are the occasional witcherfags and the mountains of porn the horny losers post. And copious discussion of games that none of us have played.
What is even the point of playing DS3.
>>343403336
I don't care much about twinking anymore. Gangbanging needs to be shat on.
>>343403476
It used to be like that, but I swear that it was sort of fixed a while ago. I got more summons after one of the server maintenances.
>>343403604
I'm sorry. I'll make a doubles thread next time.
>>343397564
>lets reduce whats useful even more: the patch
I just finished the game and now I want to be a real piece of shit.
What build to use and where to invade with it for maximum fanmail potential?
>>343403810
Honestly the best PvP experience is provided by Aldirch Faithful at lvl ~50.
>>343403810
Aldritch invasions. Use havel shield and estoc and use mobs as much as possible. Be a maximum faggot and you'll get friendly messages soon enough.
>>343403810
Try Profaned Capital
>toxic swamp
>those tight corridors where you can easily fight outmanned or lure people down the holes
>can bait people into the hand enemies
>gargoyles
>loops around so can get behind people or at least avoid getting cornered
>>343404039
Damn, that host has some real nice fashion going on, except the fagtana.
>>343403810
>>343403916
>>343404004
Feels cheesier as the host with a summon. You can kill the terrible aldritch players all day.
>>343404039
>>can bait people into the hand enemies
and yourself, somehow
>>343404129
Ganking goes against the spirit of pvp.
When I did a co-op playthrough with a friend, we used the dried finger and just played through the zone normally, until it eventually become a free-for-all brawl with all kinds of rainbow phatoms killing the crap out of each other.
>Nerf the only weapon Luck has
Nice meme
I bet they didn't make the luck scaling on infusion not shit either. Fucking hacks.
>Demon's Fist
>Reduced weight
Oh I am fucking laughing. Nevermind C/C scaling at +10. Shit fucking weapon.
>Added shield piercing to regular attacks
Ruh roh
Gay
>>343397617
9 A R
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Holy shit, what a nerf. I'm sweating over here
>>343403810
low level dickwraith invasions are fun again with armour of thorns and dung pies
>>343404392
1. Luck is for bleed builds
2. Agreed
3.Quit using a shield, faggot
>>343403810
>go to pontiff's
>pop seed
>pop dried finger
>summon a buddy
>slay dozens of shitty invaders
I always end up with some hatemail, even though it often ends up with 3v2s in the invaders favor
oh, and make sure you both have an offhand washing pole when they sprint off to heal
>>343404392
But hollow infusion was never shit.
>>343404554
I do that, but instead i rely on blues to come in and assist teaming up from the start. It's much more exciting.
>>343397564
>crescent moon sword
>added int scaling
Fucking hell. I need to respec to use this and a few other weapons.
>>343403336
I was invading before the Artorias Cosplayers fog gate. I was 1-2 shotting people with Great Axe.
I felt like and invincible god of death.
>>343404392
>Shit fucking weapon.
There are only shit players.
whats the best upgrade path? is i still elemental?
>people crying over anri's nerf
bleed is still ridiculously OP, and way more fun
>>343398994
>forcing
>system that goes all the way to Demon's
Weenie.
>>343404853
you could never do that to a half-decent player
>>343402870
Nope and I like it that way. DS2 was just obnoxious with how breakable weapons were.
>>343404979
summon signs are for duels, invasions all bets are off
>>343404897
Depends what element.
Magic infusion is a fucking joke.
Dark is a fucking joke.
Fire has no scaling.
Haven't tried Chaos but I can only assume it's just as bad as Dark.
Lightning is god-tier in PvE.
I haven't played in a while. Can you still do weapon arts with little or no FP? I want to be able to use my BKG spin attack whenever I want, and to quickstep through Farron Keep.
>>343402870
my washing pole was in danger against dragonslayer armour, that's about it
FIX THE GOD DAMN SUMMONS/INVASIONS FOR COVENANTS.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>343397564
>Inb4 reddit
Fuck off.
With that said, according to reddit and their tendencies to test shit, this patch is garbage.
Daggers got a good buff.
Dark Sword only lost 10 AR.
Anri's Straight Sword got a nerf but still viable.
Wolnirs Holy Sword has a mediorce buff. Still not viable.
Crescent Moon Sword has a mediorce buff. Still not viable.
Mornes Great Hammer is ok.
Lothrics Holy Sword is still absolute shit.
Overall, this is a really bad nerf. Did the devs even test this shit?
>>343398667
Apparently, it's been untouched to even BUFFED.
>>343400145
What. That's legit. You charged it, you proc'd counter damage + Leo Ring since it's a buff.
Astora Greatsword should keep the unparryable rolling attack, but it does need the thrust proc from it's rolling attack removed. I don't know why idiots want to make it parryable. Keep it unparryable and make it stand out from the rest of the other UGS, FFS.
>>343405131
I'm just saying you sound like a bitch.
>invade in Demon Ruins
>host has Tsorig as his summon and starts acting real cocky since he's got real firepower to depend on
>manage to get him to chase me all the way to the real Tsorig hanging by the lava
>end up in a 2v2 UGS murderfest
>my Tsorig smashes his and then I clean up the host
I was really fortunate he never thought to use a seed.
>>343404979
I'm not the one bitching about pvp balance in dark souls. I think whiny invaders are the real weenies. I said force because that's what it is, dipshit.
>dark sword nerf
lol finally a reason to use other weapons than dark sword :^)
>>343404809
I wish I could do that but for the life of me I can't hit anyone with axes.
