How old is too old for video games?
I've been working and paying taxes for two years now, and while I still enjoy video games, I'm starting to feel like I'm too old for this hobby. My nephew is into the same games as I am, and he's 9. It's depressing to think about.
Who cares what other people think? Just enjoy your vidya, man. Just don't act like an autist about it.
Stopping liking something that you like just because of some arbitrary age limit is retarded. Especially if you replace it with something just as "bad for you" as watching TV like some people that complain about video games do.
You don't get too old for a medium you autistic retarded faggot.
Do you get too old to enjoy books? Too old to enjoy art? Television? Movies?
>>343376902
You're never too old for video games.
Your nephew might have really good taste in games, if he likes the same ones you do.
I don't see why it's depressing to you to share an interest with a 9 year old. You aren't being degraded by being associated with his age. Children are human beings, too.
>>343376902
You're a faggot.
>>343377008
>Who cares what other people think?
>t. manchild
>>343376902
You're welcome to stop enjoying things whenever you want. Nobody's forcing you to have a good time with a hobby you like.
Honestly past the age of 18 you should be too busy with college, building your career or enjoying a healthy outgoing social life to even have time for video games. And if you do, it shouldn't be anything more than some casual mobile game or something to waste time in between your active busy life.
That doesn't include Dark Souls all nighters, kids.
20 is the cutoff point. After that it's just manchild mania.
>>343376902
Might as well just kill yourself now and get it over with.
>>343376902
you grow out of them, at some point you feel like most games are either boring or not worth your time. Nowadays I play like only 2 games, max 3, and I don't do it because they make me feel good, but because it's the best time killer I have.
if you haven't already felt like this, well, you are like those 30-40 yo people that buy toys.
Nothing bad with that, but other adults might not respect you
>>343376902
Im 30. Going deeper and deeper into game mechanics just because I find it interesting. I play on the train and no fugs were given.
>>343376902
What games are both you and your nephew into?
>>343376902
grow out of television first
>>343377061
Enjoy giving up your hobby just because you hit a certain age, gramps.
>>343376902
>How old is too old for video games?
There's so such thing. My dad played video games until his late fifties. You may grow tired of playing them at some point but I don't think yoi can be too old.
>>343377179
Sorry but 12 is the cutoff point, fucking manchild.
I'm 52 years old, play video games, and shitpost on /v/. I'm about to become a grandfather in five months too.
there's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
>>343376902
When I get too old for drawings, paintings, sculptures, photgraphs, books, magazines, comics, television, movies, and music.
>>343377179
>>343377151
>>343377183
this desu senpai
social life makes you spend less time on games (and that's a good thing honestly)
>>343377025
>>343377031
>>343377037
These
>>343377151
Who set this law?
How old is too old for movies? How old is too old for leisure reading? How old is too old for music?
See how retarded the premise is?
>>343376902
You are a faggot, don't enjoy a hobby anymore? leave it but if you do don't fret on the details and just enjoy it.
>>343376902there are harvard university professors that enjoy video gamesu r dum
>>343376902
>My nephew is into the same games as I am, and he's 9
Bet you he eats food, watches movies, and fucking breathes the same air, too.
>>343377151
Okay Chad thanks.
>>343376902
Just as soon as you burn out, get other hobbies and maybe play a couple hours a week and miss out on new launches
>>343377316
>normalfags
>>343376902
>asking about age to play of vidya in /v/
Is like asking children when can they fuck
>>343377151
>college
We live in a day and age where the internet exists, why would you put yourself into debt? Ignoring the political crisis going on.
>>343376902
I'll die before I stop gaming.
Also, either your nephew has good taste or you play shitty Nintendo kiddy games and need to re-evaluate your taste.
>>343376902
>I've been working and paying taxes for two years now
and you contribute to society. Congrats. The second part of being an adult is learning when to lead rather than just follow.
>>343376902
How old is too old for movies? Or radio? Or music? Or literature?
Daily reminder that the average gamer is in their mid 30s and anyone claiming that they grew out of games in their 20s or late teens is just desperately trying to seem mature.
>>343377269
underage detected
>>343377031
videogames aren't comparable to books (the ones that are worth it, obviously) or art, same for movies
Television and Videogames are comparable to some degree, and people addicted to TV aren't the best humanity has to offer honestly
>>343377285
Congratulations!!
>>343377179
>>343377269
Actually the cut off is 5. Anything past that can't be saved.
>>343377269
>he didn't stopped playing vidya and enjoying things after getting out of his mother's womb
Fucking casuals and normalfags, get out of my site.
>>343377151
fuck off normie
>>343377151
I played games in college, as did my friends and most other people. We all continued after college. We still play games all the time, and have solid social lives. If you actively go out just to do random shit with people you don't know so often that you can't enjoy yourself, you have problems.
>>343377061
>oh no, I'd better worry about what people think about a thing I do in private with zero connection to the outside world
>>343377456
Yeah anyone who goes to college is wasting their time and money.
>>343377151
>this is the people you share a board with
Fucking normalfags
>>343377285
Congrats, man. Remember to spoil those little shits and laugh at your kids as they will never be as cool as grandpa.
As soon as you're old enough to post on /v/, you're too old for video games.
It explains a lot about the state of this board. Manchildren and people who shitpost more than they play games.
>>343377031
>Television?
I haven't watched TV in years.
>>343377061
Once you grow up you'll realize that the secret to happiness is really just not giving a fuck.
>>343377713
Best advice no other advice is needed in this universe just do what you want and you will be content. Pleasing people is overrated.
>>343377031
Depends on the content.
Television itself doesn't have an age limit but kiddy shit like dora the explorer and adventure time does.
Same with video games. If you're older than 12 and still play crap like pokemon you should commit seifuku.
>>343377285
Be sure to warn them about the dangers of radiation.
>>343377456
>>343377647
>Yeah anyone who goes to college is wasting their time and money.
Oh god, I can't breathe. You guys actually think you can get a real job without a college degree?
Be honest. You work at McDonalds, don't you?
>>343377558
Actually cut off point is when you were still inside your dads ballsack as sperm.
>>343377647
>paying for college
america, everyone
>>343377827
Laws and law enforcement will get in your way eventually.
>>343377151
You are fucking retarded.
>>343377151
>implying you can't have a successful career, have a social life, and SO, and can play vidya
>tfw boyfriend moved back home across the country and med school starts soon and I have to give everything up
>>343377390
There are harvard professors who like gore, child porn, ponies and scat too, dickweed
>>343378057
I don't know if you realize this but we don't live in Norway, in a capitalist society you just need to be good at what you're applying for.
>>343377031
I like vidya as much as the next guy but I must say that books and video games don't belong in the same category. How are you going to compare a masterpiece like The Brothers Karamazov to something like Overwatch or Grand Theft Auto? You can't!
>>343376902
I hate people who think that they're "too old" for something and completely abandon something that they truly enjoy just because they're scared of what other people think. Stop letting other people tell you what you can and can't enjoy.
>>343378098
The laws are not a person.
You'll be fine as long as you pay taxes, and don't rob or injure anyone.
>>343376902
I'm 29, I've been playing vidya since my dad won C64 twenty-five years ago and I fucking love video games. I think I always will.
People who think you can get too old to have a hobby are fucking imbeciles and letting peer pressure indicate you what can do is a reason to kill yourself.
>>343377151
>college
>not learning a trade instead
kill yourself
>>343377827
This logic can be used to justify being an enormous asshole. No wonder it's popular on /v/.
>>343377151
lmao
>>343376902
>How old is too old for video games?
there is no such thing you fucking 2 digit IQ retard. just because people here call you le manchild doesn't mean anything. there's nothing wrong with playing videogames at any age.
good luck finding time for it when all you do is wageslave, but there's nothing wrong with it.
>>343378227
>in a capitalist society you just need to be good at what you're applying for.
And how do you get good at a subject? By going to college, or a trade school.
There's no such thing as a free lunch, friend. You can't become qualified at a subject without going to school.
>>343378057
Hey at least you got s fancy piece of paper. That us something right? Right?
Also a troll face? Are you 12?
>>343377151
>busy with college
understandable
>building your career
of course
>enjoying a healthy outgoing social life to even have time for video games.
so you're one of those people who can't into alone time because you hate yourself too much to bare the silence and isolation for a few hours.
>not being able to manage your alone time with your social life
grow up
>>343378475
>and how do you get good at a subject
are you the same person who begs for sauce?
Google it, stupid. It's called being an autodidact.
It's never too old to play video games anyone who'd argue that isn't an actual adult. Just learn how to manage your time properly.
>>343377151
Yeah, fuck off dude. Just finished college, got a good job, and I'm playing more games than ever before. Half my coworkers and most of my friends play games too. I spend 40 to 50 hours a week on my career, and that leaves more than enough time to do whatever the fuck else I want in my free time.
>>343378361
>>343377456
>college
>not being a janitor
>not cleaning up rich people's feces
>not risking your health and maybe even life for minimal pay
Yeah, there's no value in a good education. Learning? That's for dorks. Real men are ignorant and proud.
Fight me, it's all I'm good for.
>playing video games
>>343378636
>implying your oversaturated STEM meme degree is good for much else
>>343378636
Nobody's against learning, dumb dumb.
In this day and age college is the inefficient way of learning anything .
>>343378667
that's right, it's all about watching other people play games now
You don't mandatorily enjoy video games before 18 and you certainly don't mandatorily drop it after 18. If you like playing video games then fucking play them. You'll know the moment when you've outgrown over them.
>>343378441
Wow how did you ever notice that
>>343377151
I know you're just shitposting but who's to define what a healthy social life is? Not everyone desperately desires to be surrounded by dozens of people at every waking hour. If you're lonely when you're alone you're in bad company, and so on.
>>343378241
They do belong in the same category. They're hobbies and they're part of human culture. Would you compare Crime and Punishment to football or some shit? It doesn't work that way, even if you aren't cherrypicking by picking Ico and the Twilight Saga.
>>343378779
>Comparing looking shit up on wikipedia to conducting research with people at the top of their field
Not everyone is a gender studies major.
>>343378574
>autodidact
Holy shit, I'm dying here.
Autodidactism is a meme /r9k/ uses to justify being NEETs. 90% of "self-learners" on the Internet are low-IQ trash who aren't comfortable with the more correct term "uneducated".
>>343378057
>implying
I work as a plumber. Making more than what you college boys will ever make and I didn't even graduate high school. I dropped out in 10th grade cause they wasn't teaching me shit I didn't already know so I learned a trade instead. One of my dad's friends was kind enough to take me under his wing.
Going to college is a lousy investment. Remember, it's who you know not what you know.
>>343378919
Case in point.
>>343378491
>troll face
Huh?
>>343378219
You talking shit about scat?
help me /v/ I don't want to be a manchild anymore
>>343378965
Did you know that 90 percent of statistics are made up?
Also good strawman argument by the way, almost makes people forget that the internet is a giant resource of information.
>>343378636
>wasting money to be brainwashed at a jew-run college
>not learning from life's experiences for free
commit sudoku
>>343378491
I have to agree, that's not a troll face and you need to go back under the rock from whence you came.
>>343378057
college is really only for doctors, engineers, business men, accountants, IT (this one is debatable), etc.
if you're going to college for any other reason then you're wasting your money, because you won't make it back when you eventually get a job
portfolio/experience>degree
>>343379176
The only lesson life is teaching you is to move out of mom's house and you can't even get that right, retard.
>>343377183
this
>>343378057
this is what a college cuck looks like
In a capitalist society, if you become proficient at something, but lack the college learning to do it "properly" even if you are a literal fucking GOD at what you do, nobody will take you seriously or if they've seen your work, write you off as a liability because they can't legally hire you over someone worse who has a degree.
Or because they can't legally hire you in the case of situations like doctors at hospitals.
College/trade schooling is all but mandatory in Capitalist societies today.
>>343378940
Not all hobbies are equal. Hobbies such as cooking, woodworking, gardening, fishing, and camping can teach you some useful real life skills.
Playing vidya, watching movies, writing poetry and other shit hobbies won't really teach you shit.
>>343379209
I'm 26, got a job, still living with parents and saving up for a house though to move into with gf and marry her...
I think im getting tired of the vidya games. All i do these days is surf /v/ and buy indie games and shitpost to the devs about what changes they should make.
Thinking of maybe making my own game. I've surely got the finances to hire some artists/coders to make sure it gets finished even If I give up.
>>343378779
Not him, but the bad thing is that most companies ask for a college degree so that they will at least bother to glance at your CV resume.
If you don't have good recommendations, you'll have to apply for jobs like janitor or security guard.
>>343377151
what are you fucking doing here then?
>>343379317
Good goy.
>>343379418
Do you have any proof of this?
Are you saying there have never been successful people in their field without a college degree?
Oh boy, it's another "r9k manbabies tell other people what to do so that they don't have to think about their miserable life" episode.
Just return to your containment board and go back to complaining about whores, Chads and chicken tendies. This whole thread is pure cringe.
ITT: Retards who don't realize college is the only legitimate way that shows you have proof that you learned something
i doubt that any of the people that say college is worthless have actually graduated from a college
also, the people that say you shouldn't be playing games because you should be an adult are probably incredibly boring casuals that only have sex in the missionary position and enjoy taking family photos
>>343379405
>College/trade schooling is all but mandatory in Capitalist societies today.
This. I suspect a lot of the anti-college rhetoric in this thread is insecurity on the part of uneducated /v/ posters.
>>343379173
>I can google, that makes me smart
My sides
>>343379405
>>343379418
>what is a college degree OR 4 YEARS EXPERIENCE
try harder collegecucks
If you are big into gaming and want to chat on Telegram contact me @mollymawk
>>343378057
>make comfy 80k a year
>never went to college
Trade School/certifications > College
>>343379742
If you can't google then it certainly does make you dumb.
>>343376902
Never, I am in a guild with a dude expecting his 2nd great grandkid and he still rocks the vidya.
>>343376902
who fucking cares
you're on this planet to enjoy yourself so do that while you can. fuck what anyone else thinks
>>343378353
/thread
Everyone go home and play some games.
>>343379914
this honestly
>>343377061
Litteraly hang yourself.
There's no use living if all you do is care what other people think about you.
Bruh i still play with toys. Let alone playing videogames, do i care? Nope gonna enjoy what I enjoy fuck being a normie.
>>343376902
>be 25
>family over for christmas
>11 year old cousin tells me he's playing Majora's Mask
>talk a bit about it with him, tell him it's one of my favourite games
I just thought he has good taste. At no point did I think "oh no an 11 year old is playing my favourite games"
>>343379932
Yeah and if you can't breath it makes you dead, being able to google isn't a fucking crowning achievement, being able to access information is no different than schools training you mindlessly fill in bubbles on a test.
This is like saying you knowing what buttons to press on a calculator means you know math, you are fucking retarded
Why is everything black and white? Why don't you do normie relationships and play games?
That is what my wife and I do. We both have careers, both have our own friends, go out to dates, and both play vidya.
Sometimes sticking your neck out and taking a chance is so worth it.
>>343377456
Right, you amerilards have to pay 500000000 a year for college
>>343380426
>normie relationships
Fuck off!
>>343380305
Apparently knowing how to use google is a huge achievement because you still think college is a viable option.
>>343377151
b8
You're to old for it when you feel like you're too old for it.
Some people grow out of certain hobbies like vidya, or comics, or /tg/ shit, or whatever else, but that doesn't make them more "grown up". It just means they've gotten everything they feel like they can out of the hobby and don't really have a reason to stick with it.
>>343377061
>implying you care what people think about you
>posting reddit maymays
>not knowing how to greentext properly
youre a huge faggot. Should probably kill yourself adam
>>343376902
depends what youre playing, if its overwatch / dota / CS then yeah you should stop now. "competitive games" are for teenagers / preteens.
recreational games are still fine.
adults are just children with responsibilities, but the culture of letting the playful mentality behind in adulthood makes everyone think that they have to be some kind of ultra mature sage for the rest of their life, effectively blocking the spirit of creativity and fun. That's why the majority of the adults are depressed all the time, divorce a lot, or end up hanging themselves in the basement.
>>343377151
>30
>trade qualified
>1.3k a week income
>wife
>2 kids
>mortgage
>40+ hours a week playing vidya
Yeah just because you cant handle the real world doesn't mean everybody is an inept waste of space
>>343379405
How much are people from college in denial? Just check the internet. Employers want people who have experience not a useless degree. Especially because people now get completely useless degrees just for the sake of it. Why the fuck would you choose to hire a guy that spent his entire life in school instead of a guy that already had part time jobs when he was 15 and is without college. Past job experience doesn´t even need to be related to work you want. Just some simple stuff like cleaning can earn you bonus points already because employer can see you aren´t lazy, can work in team, responsible etc....
>>343379405
>>343379702
>>343379748
this is actually completely wrong, maybe in what ever "human resources" department you are trying to get hired onto its true i dont know
experience > degree in like %80 of situations
>>343377151
>college
>when tradeschool exists
top meme
>>343380468
>GI Bill
>Pell Grant
>SEOG
>Tuition Aid Grant
>Only have to pay for books and a few hundred per semester for whatever the grants didn't completely de_stroy with coverage
Truly, Eurotards are 3rd world idiots lol bye
>>343381058
>Should probably kill yourself adam
I'll probably regret asking, but how do you know my name?
>>343379405
>because they can't legally hire you over someone worse who has a degree.
Excuse me, sir?
>>343381640
youre not even behind 9 proxies mate
My nephew enjoys soccer
I enjoy soccer
>OMG I SHOULD STOP ENJOYING SOCCER
>>343379406
Are "useful real life skills" the ones that prepare you for being stranded in a tropical post-apocalyptic island, rather than the ones that make you happy?
>tfw starting Master's degree in August
>no assistantship so going to be school and home and nothing but
My biggest worry is how much free time I'll have, if much at all.
>>343376902
Well my grandmother played games into her sixties, and only stopped because she died from lung cancer.
>>343376902
It's never too old. But, when you hit 40, you wouldn't be called gamer anymore, there's another word for those people.Audiophiles
>>343377031
When was vidya art? Or at least comparable to art?
Inb4 one of you faggots brings up Undertale.
God i hate /v/
>>343382217
Interactive art, no?
>>343382217
>being so upset for misunderstanding a post
You need to improve your reading comprehetion
>>343382217
Vidya is, by all definitions, a medium of art that acts as a combination of other mediums.
It's not good for conventional art with a bucnh of deep meanings and plot threads, for the most part, but the way a good game can be visually appealing, have good sound design, and be played and designed in a well-made manner with decent amounts of gameplay depth is by all definitions art.
>>343381902
Was the cancer videogame related? Pretty sure i got rectal cancer from playing too many video games.
>>343377061
Caring what other people think is the core philosophy behind most of those gentleman fedora-donning losers, you fucking idiot.
>>343382217
art is subjective
More at 11
back to you sarah
>>343382217
>When was vidya art? Or at least comparable to art?
There are tons of Citizen Kanes of gaming. There's only one Citizen Kane of movies. Clearly, gaming is the superior art form.
>>343382217
>>343382256
video games are not art, they have art in them. like an art museum, its not art it just has art in it.
im sure many faggets will disagree through
Oh boy, this discussion again wew lad.
You're never too old for videogames.
>>343382386
>rectal cancer
Let me guess, too much portable gaming on the toilet?
>>343382682
>video games are not art, they just have art in them
>>343382682
To create videogames is an art form
Playing them casually is not.
But the vidya scene is meta as fuck and one could say that it's an art to become gud at some genre of videogames.
>paying taxes
ow the edge
How old is too old for capeshit movies? Literally never, says your local normie.
>>343382682
That's kojima's definition right? My god the japs are so based when it comes it video game design.
>>343382816
>a movie has a song in it
>i guess the movie is music then
yep
>>343376902
You are not an adult, you are a manchild trying to overcompensate and dropping vidya is not the answer.
It just so happens that you are socially retarded too and thinks dropping vidya will make you look more adult like and responsible.
>>343376902
18
You have no business playing video games once you turn that age. You should be joining the military, doing grown up things, having kids, harvesting crop, voting for your local communist party, plant a tree, invent a kill yourself.
>>343382886
No, but the movie is art. The way the score works with the visual aspect and writing of the movie contributes to that. A movie as art is the sum of its parts, retard.
Are you really this stupid?
>>343377536
>videogames aren't comparable to books (the ones that are worth it, obviously)
What the fuck? The communist manifesto, the bible, the art of war and the great psychoanalysts books and journals? Those are literally the only objective "good" books.
>>343382823
>To create videogames is an art form
creating a beautiful chessboard is an art, that doesn't mean playing chess with beautiful pieces makes it an art
>>343376902
You never get too old for video games. My grandpa used to play Europa Universalis all day until he died at 90.
>>343383084
He's a troll. There are actually extremely few worthwhile books, movies, and TV shows. Just like what you like. Live for you.
>>343383049
-the point
-your head
>>343383084
>the bible
I prefer my fiction to have some nuance to it personally but I guess it's a good one time read.
>>343382682
>>343382217
Videogames are art that can express emotion through various mechanics. It's just harder to appreciate videogames as art because you actually need to learn how to fucking play them, it's the only art form that challenges the viewer to try harder to experience.
If you say shit like vidya doesn't make you feel you are either a retarded faggot, a troll, or just play arcade shit.
What's an adult hobby? Because as far as I know most of them you can't do whenever you please. You can't golf or work on vehicles or race or do anything like that whenever you please. Playing video games is definitely a hell of a lot better than just watching tv and movies and going on Facebook like the people that think they're for children do.
Videogames are literally shit now
If you are into the trash that is released these days, Dark Souls, Overwatch, Persona, any of those shitty weeb VNs like Zero Escape - you're a manchild
They are all just shallow imitations of the great games that us older guys played in our youths. I roll my eyes pretty much every time I come to /v/ and see what you kids and manchildren actually think are good games. They are shallow pieces of crap
>>343383129
No, but you could consider the design and rules of chess to be art. You could also consider the battle of minds that occurs at higher level chess to be art.
>>343383189
Please tell me what point I missed.
The music in a game is music.
The visual aspect of a game is visual art.
The writing of a game is writing.
The design of a game is design.
They're all separate, but as a whole they're a GAME. They way the creators of said game fail or succeed to make each part of a game work together is art.
>>343383035
>You are never allowed to have fun again after you turn 18
Sounds like shit. I'm glad I'm not a joyless adult.
>>343383129
No fucking shit. I just said this exact same thing in the post you just quoted.
>>343383296
>you actually need to learn how to fucking play them
You also have to play them correctly. You can't a tually serve a narrative to a payer without taking control from them. Which takes away from what video games are all about imo.
I'm with that other anon. Video games are like art museums in that you can just walk around and see cool shit while wasting your time on the actual GAME part of it.
>>343383334
Now use your brain, and explore the parallels with modern Hollywood movies and TV shows.
>>343383334
>They are all just shallow imitations of the great games that us older guys played in our youths.
If they're so shallow, why aren't younger people playing retro games?
Is it possible that the games of your youth aren't as good as you remember?
>>343383334
Oh boy here we go
I'll bite, what do you consider a good game
>>343383480
Why do you come here to incite anger? Do you not love your fellow Anon?
>>343383245
The bible gives you amazing insight into humanity which is why is considered one of the best books.
Of course you are an edgy atheist who doesn't understand the importance of it even though literally every genius has read it. And the fact that you didn't complain about the communist manifesto gives away that you are actually a libtard.
>>343377316
>social life
NORMIES GET OUT
I just play melee nowadays.
All new games are trash, but good ol' melee has never been better.
It's an old man game too, so you socialize with people your age
>>343383404
This is an 18+ board. Please leave.
>people literally unironically believe that just because someone doesn't play video games and watches film (kino trash), music or read that somehow makes them smarter and a better person
Tippity toppity kek
Just means they enjoy something else in their free time. It literally in no way, shape or form makes them smarter or better than someone that plays video games.
>>343383670
>reading comprehension
>>343383569
>amazing insight into humanity
I get that better from other fiction actually. The bible isn't really all that relevant to modern man imo.
Any Dostoyevsky>the bible.
>>343383670
>false flagging
You've got it backwards, my retarded friend.
>>343376902
dead
>>343383532
Because he's right. Games nowadays blow any game from our youths out of the park, that's why when we compare them one of the first justifications is "It was amazing for its time"
>>343383296
i guess walking through an art museum is art then
>>343383365
>No, but you could consider the design and rules of chess to be art. You could also consider the battle of minds that occurs at higher level chess to be art.
i disagree, at this point you are trying to say science is an art. from your point of view everything can be an art even thought it already carrys a different label
the point you missed is
>a movie has a song in it
>i guess the movie is music then
Vidya is ruined by normie scum. Vidya belongs to autistic loner virgins.
I am so fucking triggered when I'm playing MMO's, degenerate guildmates talk about going partying, gym, having sex/gf's and careers.
Seriously, is any multiplayer vidya safe from the normie infestation?
>>343383569
>The bible gives you amazing insight into humanity which is why is considered one of the best books.
The same can be said for other books.
>>343383736
>bro let me name drop an author to show how intellectual and enlightened I am
Literally tipping my fedora at you my 300lbs neckbearded white friend.
>>343380582
False equivalency nigga, put that in your google search and feel lucky about it. I never said College was a viable option, only that you are legitimately retarded if you believe autodidact is a legitimate thing.
Parroting information you search for and don't retain is being uneducated, which is also a major problem in modern college/university environments
Worry about not having fun when you're dead
>>343383532
It's just a simple fact: Games weren't objectively better in the past. If that's the case, then video games aren't shit now; you've just outgrown them.
People don't outgrow movies, or books. The evidence indicates that video games is the kind of hobby you mature out of.
>>343383767
Anon, if you take the music out of a movie you take out part of what makes it what it is. The music is designed to be played at a certain point and composed in a way that it improves the movie. The music is part of it. The same goes for the game. Music is art too, you tard, but a different art form that can add to other art forms. Artforms are not mutually exclusive.
The same applies to vidya.
>>343383841
He's a pretty well known russian writer actually. It's kind of embarrassing that you haven't heard of him though I'm sure you're proud of this fact.
>>343380582
College is a viable option for lots of fields. Engineering, computer sciences, nursing. There will literally always be a need for nurses and to be an RN you need a college degree.
>>343383815
Oh look another special snowflake
>>343383767
You faggot keep comparing videogames though a Museum while failing to understand the proper way to appreciate videogames. It's a whole package and you retards try to hard to dissect it.
Enjoy videogames as a whole, the whole process of making a videogame is art, the whole experience of a videogame is art.
Even when the music was shitty, because it was used at the right time, it created emotion within you, but that wasn't the music alone, it was the scene in the videogame, how attached you grew to the characters, the shitty music, how hard it was to get there, etc.
>>343383764
This is complete nonsense. Look at internet consensuses for OoT and FFVII. They're literally still reigning.
>>343383874
I'm not worried about not having fun though, I actually enjoy life.
Maybe if you stopped buying into baby boomer lies you could enjoy life too.
almost turning 30 here.
I still enjoy playing video games despite all the changes gaming has gone through.(i.e. more focus on storytelling rather than actual gameplay).
ive learn to adjust with what we have and learn to like it unlike most crybaby faggots here.
the only problem is actually finding time to play these games.
I'm 25 and I honestly think you should decrease the amount of time you play as you get older. I can't do the binges like I used to.
>>343383815
That's why I will never have nerd friends. Despite coming to 4chan for over 10 years, loving anime and videogames I still like going to parties, getting drunk, fucking girls and working out.
I literally have no friends ;_;
>being capable of enjoying the AAA garbage and pretentious indie shit that passes as "videogames" for the past 10 years and counting
Lucky you I guess, OP.
>>343383908
Where do you people come from, besides the obvious 'R' word? How are you so completely divorced from the culture of 4chan?
>>343383334
I love oldies that sound like children
>STOP ENJOYING GAMES I DIDN'T PLAY BWAAAAAH
>>343383832
Yeah, the ones I listed...
But if you think any other book has ever been as influential or helped humanity the same way the bible did you are fucking delusional.
>>343384000
It's literally nostalgia for both of them though. OoT is extremely outdated. The graphics were mediocre when it was released, the combat is basic as fuck, the music is catchy but not complex or deep, story is literally Wal-Mart branded generic and the world is tiny. It's just because people grew up with it and became enormous fanboys for it.
>>343383920
i dont agree with that when it comes to video games, because ultimately a video game is the GAME aspect of it, the art and music are there to enrich your experience but it doesn't make the GAME part an art, its not called a video art
>>343384163
>The graphics
>Literally your first point
Into the trash it goes.
>>343384204
They're the most glaring and obvious flaw though and any troglodyte nigger can see that.
>>343377151
why does social life and games have to be separate, what the fuck? It doesn't matter what you do as long as you got someone to do it with.
What's with these shitty threads today?
If you're having a mid-life crisis how about you deal with it yourself, OP.
>>343384154
>list a bunch of bait books next to the bible
>gets mad when people see thru it and shit on the bible
You have been reverse baited, friend.
>>343384183
Yeah and movies aren't called film musics you fucking idiot but a good soundtrack can make or break certain movies.
>>343384183
>The art and music are there to enrich your experience
Exactly.
The defining aspect of a game is the game design, which can very easily be considered an artform with how it HAS to mesh well with every other aspect of the game. Same goes for how the most defining aspect of a film is the moving visuals.
>>343379914
Trade school is nice, but it's not as comfy as upper management. Also they tend to make more in the long run especially if you include bonuses and benefits.
But yeah at the bare minimum you should do trade school.
>>343384248
>thinking graphics have anything to do with a game's quality
>not realizing that a games' timelessness comes from its ability to set standards in the industry
I know I'm talking to a teenager/retard/angry person that isn't from 4chan. I will not be responding anymore.
>>343384000
Oh shit! Bandwagon faggots still exist! Who would have thought!
Ask any Zeldafag and they will tell you either MM or ALttP is superior to OoT every fucking time. OoT was a great game but it's only riding on popularity at the moment, the same with FFVII and to an extend you can apply the same concept to Half-Life 1.
Of course the popularity of both games is thanks to all the content creators having nostalgia over them and still creating content for those games. If anything, they have become memes rather than being superior to actual videogames.
>>343384285
Invaders are trying to make you hate yourself. 4chan is infested with disgusting subhuman normie niggers.
>>343383993
you cant slap music to walking down the street/performing science/eating food and call it art
it CAN be an art but the act of adding music to it doesn't in itself make it art
>>343376902
who cares, infantilism is a thing to be praised now.
>>343384380
ALttP is the better Zelda, I recognize that. I was just using a popular example. You need to kill yourself.
>>343384373
If you think OoT is still a good game and didn't age like milk the only person not from here is you. Did you is it discover this place a few months ago when one of the meme pages you liked on Facebook had an epic screencap of something horribly unfunny from here? Stupid meme loving fuck. OoT is a dated piece of shit and only fanboys can't see that.
>>343384305
>Bait books
>Even though they are the great masterpieces of humanity.
I'm calling you out for being a retard who hasn't read any of those books yet decided to shit on them.
You don't even know why I listed them.
>>343384498
(((You)))
>>343378057
he thinks college is more important than making strong business connections early on in life
I fucking wish I could enjoy vidya, job, gf, school all come before it. I wish I could go back to the days where I only had like 4 games cuz I was a kid and had to wait for a birthday or Christmas to get a game . I enjoyed and played through every game I had multiple times. Now I'm lucky if I get an hour in
>>343384537
Literally so flustered and red faced you can't even form a proper reply. Nice. Epic. I like it. Go back to whatever shithole your cretin ass crawled from you stupid faggot and don't ever reply to me or post on this board again
>>343384518
>still trying to revive his bait
It's cool, bro. You have shit taste in fiction. I may think the bible is mediocre fiction but at least you're reading something. :)
>>343384629
(((You)))
>>343384687
I'm also guessing you think Bernie was a great candidate for the presidency.
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU DO ON YOUR FREE TIME, A HOBBY IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE GENUINE INTEREST IN. DONT FORCE YOURSELF TO DO SOMETHING SO YOU LOOK "GROWN UP" . you guys are like that fat guy that swims with his shirt on at the pool. Who gives a fuck own it and have fun. If somebody doesn't like it tell em to fuck off
>>343384317
movies have different subcategorys m8, you wont call a documentary art.
>>343384437
It's part of the whole experience, it's not just slapped you twat, it's designed and composed for that specific moment and help to create ambiance which in return will make the viewer experience emotions that cannot be/would not be as strong as if they were presented on its own.
A death scene, a departure, a confession of love, all of those can be further enhanced with music specially crafted for them and as soon as you feel an emotion towards it, the game already fulfilled its purpose as art.
Of course one who is simple minded such as yourself would have no insight in that because I'd assume you don't go to plays or art galleries very often.
>>343384483
You know popularity does not represent quality yet you still used it as an argument for the quality of the game.
Are you literally retarded? Are you that much of a fucking retard?
>>343384779
He realized everyone knows he's an illiterate retard and now is trying to play it off as bait, what do you think?
>>343384779
>implying I'm american
I've been half reading your posts so someone help me out here. When did politics come up?
>>343384920
Is this samefagging or are you guys developing a hugbox?
>>343384862
>You know popularity does not represent quality yet you still used it as an argument for the quality of the game.
>Are you literally retarded? Are you that much of a fucking retard?
Calm down, you angry idiot. I admit that ALttP is the better Zelda, but guess what? It's still better than every single 3D Zelda. What that means, is that old games were superior, and you just buried your argument alive.
>>343384993
Oh shit, he's upset more than one person is calling him on his retarded behavior.
>>343378057
How much does a college degree even cost in burgerland? Here in Denmark, not only is it free, but we get paid to study. (Roughly 800USD a month in my case)
If it wasn't free, I don't think I'd ever have considered getting a degree. (Just finished my first year of university)
Paying so much money just to maybe earn more money later on seems completely backwards to me.
>>343384993
You're just so retarded I had to assume you had shit taste in politics as well
But
>not American
Literally worthless opinions. Canadian? English? Australian? Any of these and you're literally a worthless shitposter.
>>343382217
>the "are video games art" debate
Just look up any definition of art, you goddamn flaming fucking idiots. Video games are art. Young Adult fiction is art. Stop talking about this, stop pretending being retarded.
Art is a diverse range of human activities in creating visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), expressing the author's imaginative or technical skill, intended to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power.
>>343385105
Potentially tens of thousands.
Normies like capeshit now.
"growing out of" video games is no longer a thing.
>>343385007
ALttP is still inferior to TP or WW.
Actually WW blows any other Zelda game in terms of art, visuals, story, plot, character interaction, world building, music and gameplay.
What you have is called nostalgia.
How do I fight the urge to kill myself?
Just had the wordt day of my life?
>>343385139
But I'm not from 4chan, and you're stupid! Do you even realize how stupid you are?
>>343384862
unless crying more tears is an objective in the GAME then none of your feelings have anything to do with the game itself
just like when you walk over a beautiful city street, the architect may have wanted your walk to be enriched with his art and music but that still doesn't make your walk down his street an art. your walk may have been "designed and composed for that specific moment and help to create ambiance which in return will make the walk experience emotions that cannot be/would not be as strong as if they were presented on its own" but it doesn't make your walk a fucking art.
>>343385219
(((You)))
>>343385105
You pay money to make a hell of a lot more money as well as have a job that you like and that isn't necessarily manual labor or cleaning shit in toilets. You can go to a state university and live on campus for 4 years for like 80k total depending on where you are. If you can live at home it can probably drop down to like 40k.
So you spend a good chunk of money early but you make that back and a lot more than people that didn't go to school throughout your life.
If you want to go to a private school without scholarships or aid you're looking at 40k a year or more.
>>343385086
>>343385110
>going full shitposter mode
Man I really set you guys going. Was it the bible comment? Because I don't get this upset when someone doesn't like my favorite fiction.
Looks like you guys have a lot of growing up to do.
>>343377354
movies music and reading are art and its okay to appreciate art
but videogames can never be art
>>343385172
This
Normal people spend 6 hours a day watching cape comics and movies, then spend 8 hours discussing them, and their entire pool of discussion is limited to capeshit.
