Thoughts?
>>343282418
>Hornet Ring: Adjusted Efficiency
What does it mean?
I'm glad there's a darksword nerf though.
Don't really care much about the rest but it looks fine
There goes my luck build.
>>343282418
WEW
Dagger backup for criticals like in DaS2 now?
>>343282418
My thoughts are I haven't played the game since it was released.
>>343282418
>Yorshka buff
>Dark sword nerf
>Wolnir scaling
>Hornet ring nerf
Looks okay desu senpai, still waiting on the dlc before i touch it again though.
>not balancing dark sword and hornet ring until 3 months after release
are they actually ignorant to the balance of their game or just incompetent?
wonder if the Mhammer can finally outclass the dark sword for dps with the faith scaling. Was only good for two shot farming silver Knights
>>343282418
>It took 4 months for the Dark Sword and Anri's Sword to get nerfed
They'll add something broken in the DLC anyways.
>>343282418
>all these fucking weapons that have faith/int requirements that only now, three months later, get faith/int scaling
Jesus christ From what the fuck were you thinking?
>>343282418
Nobody cares anymore.
>>343282418
>anri's sword nerf
rip faith/luck builds
>the source is some steam faggot posting on the forums
Nice try pcuck
>>343284680
>being this retarded
>>343282870
They obviously feel the need to test their updates, rather than fire and forget like some other publishers.
>faith maybe actually getting weapons
I never thought I'd see the day
>all skills that enchant a weapon with effect : extended length of effect
Does this mean the bloodletter isn't going to be junk anymore
Pretty good.
>>343285117
>>343282870
Actually it's Incompetence. They nerfed faith making it near unplayable in DS2 a few monthd to a year after release never fixed it afterwards
>>343282418
>obscuring and hornet ring nerf
LETS SHIT ON INVADERS EVEN MORE BECAUSE FUCK YOU!
The reason this game is dying faster than any other souls game is because the pvp is fucking garbo. You'd think these stupid nips would have realized this with the hundreds of videos highlighting the problem
Very impressive. An upturn compared to the last patch.
>>343283108
>>343285238
Im happy about this, But I,don't think I ever want to do a faith build in this game again. I did it as my first run and that was pretty awful. Im surprised From finally noticed that,all of these weapons with the word HOLY in there name didn't have faith scaling, and that there was only like 2 weapons in game that did have faith scaling.
is the dancer fog door fixed?
>no poise change
Thank fuck, I was afraid I'd have to stop using my aggressive 2h estoc build
>>343285961
fuck off, it's LITERALLY cancer concentrated inside a ring.
>>343286001
I found faith to be pretty good when you use dragonslayer's greataxe and use miracles for utility. Was doing an "always fingered" run and the AOE on dragonslayer's was amazing for killing groups of invaders.
I think faith in this game is mostly geared towards using weapon skills for your damage output rather than miracles.
Reapers still suck. They're as slow as UGS without the damage. Why do you taunt me, Fromsoft?
>>343285961
Nah. The reason is WE ALREADY PLAYED THE SAME GAME FOR THE FIFTH TIME.
You PvP fagos should eat shit and die.
>lightning stake 1 slot
neat.
>black serpent tracking
fucking finally
>barriers
I have never seen anyone use them. I doubt I will afterwards.
>pillars
neat
>dragon breath
I'd love if they actually made the lingering crystals deal damage because stamina is really not my key concern about this fucking spell that hasn't been good since ds1.
>>343282418
>Wolnir's Sword scaling with faith
YES
>>343286201
>bloo bloo bloo the invader saw my gank squad and black crystaled before we could gang rape him to death D^:
No, you fuck off. It is literally the only advantage invaders get, and it's barely even one anyway since anyone can obtain and use it.
Daily reminder:
The people obsessed with Dark Souls' PVP are just individuals too lazy, stupid and mediocre for a genuinely competitive PVP game.
What Miyazaki and FromSoft's intention with the invasion / PVP concept in the SoulsBorne games is creating new dangers for the players; not this fucking MLG nonsense.
>adjusted efficiency
>fixed other flaws
Fucking From
>Wolnir's Holy Sword, Morne's Great Hammer, Lothric's Holy Sword: added faith scaling
ABOUT FUCKING TIME, CHRIST.
>>343287681
I'm just tired that you can one-shot everyone with just a parry, it's not fair dude, they need to nerf magic and faith more, and all type of big weapons too, it's the only fun way to enjoy the game and you know it.
>>343282418
I wasn't even aware yorshka had a spear. Well ok then
No fucking poise, slant eyed cunts.
>>343287930
>individuals too lazy, stupid and mediocre for a genuinely competitive PVP game
MOBAs captured this audience long ago.
How bad will the obscuring nerf be? Only thing I care.
>>343282418
>Anri's
HAHAHA RIP SPEEDRUNNERS
>patchnotes are still vague as fuck
>still no poise
at least magic is getting buffed and the darksword is getting nerfed but god damn i would like some actual NUMBERS
>still no poise fix so heavy armor is still useless
DaS3 is shit desu senpai
>>343292593
Poise is working like intended
>>343292826
(You)
>>343285961
Invaders are cancer. Go cry more about not being able to shit on new and low level players with your autistic min/max build, faggot.
>>343293078
Not him, but I invade while leveling up, I don't min max.
You type like you're one of those big babies that need 3 summons to clean the entire level while you do not move an inch.
You're the cancer, friendo.
>>343292593
>wanting easy mode enabled
>>343293356
>You type like you're one of those big babies that need 3 summons to clean the entire level while you do not move an inch.
Nice projection. I actually do a lot of challenge runs and don't summon at all, but if it helps your shitposting just assume everybody but you is a casual I guess.
>>343287930
The problem is that when you fuck over invaders too much they stop invading. I'd love to invade but it's not fun to lose 50-60% of the time to bad players because they have 30% more HP, twice the estus and 2 buddies + infinite resummons, so I just stopped invading a month ago. In the end what you get is a completely useless mechanic that 99% of the players will never see. That's bad design through and through.
Poise will get a comeback with the DLCs which add Mask of the Father and Giant Armor Set
>>343293584
I don't even care about the Giantdad meme, I would totally pay for this back.
>>343293567
And you just assume that all invaders are cancer. Your point is moot, cockchin.
>>343282418
Wolnir's spooksword gonna be good now?
>nerf magic more
>make barrier extremely situational instead of utterly unusable
>>343282418
Nerfing obscuring ring sucks.
It had a good distance already.
>>343294014
>invaders complain about the hornet ring not being OP garbage anymore
>are cancer
I'm sure some invaders are ok and it's a necessary part of the game, but not those who want every single advantage over and opponent, chucklecuck.
>obscuring ring nerfed
So invaders can't snipe you with powerful spells anymore with you not noticing anything
>magic nerfed
So even if you spot the invader and he hits you with a spell - He won't be able to kill you
>hornet ring
So invaders can't rush behind your back and avoid all your coop ghosts and just backstab you to death with a single hit.
The entire update is just a big fuck you to every invader in DS3.
Well, more population for DS2 i guess.
>>343286835
Yes, this [spioler]it will still be shit[/spoiler]
>>343294873
>The entire update is just a big fuck you to every invader
You're saying it like it's a bad thing.
It's alright but not enough.
>>343294957Try to select text and ctrl+s next time, familia
>>343283108
I'm fucking incredulous that it wasn't there from the start. I made a faith character and was baffled that there wasn't a single fucking unique weapon that scaled with the stat I was forced to jam every point into.
Jesus christ From, your ball breaking stubbornness doesn't have to extend to your development and balancing.
>>343282418
1 slot stake
Better magic barries
Faith scaling on wolnirs and lothric
Buffed pillars
Faith wins?
Hoepfully bloodlust is useable now
So, if anri's sword get nerfed into the ground, which weapon will be speedrunners' choice now?
>>343282418
>no speed increase for wolnirs WA
Into the trash
>>343295732
they gave it hyperarmor and made it a little faster last patch.
They won't make it as fast as mornes because it takes much less stat investment.
>>343295679
deep axe?
>>343282870
They probably have only a few people who are balancing and testing stuff. All their teams are probably working on their new projects or das3 DLC.
>host can cummon butt buddies
ok whatever
>darkmoon/blue sentinels
ok whatever
>can pop giant tree seed
depending on the area it can help/hurt you
>obscuring ring nerf
fugg, but can work around it
>hornet ring nerf
hurts both sides desu
>nerf magic
why
I understand Invasions aren't supposed to be easy, but no reason to nerf the obscuring ring and magic other than shitters being shitters
>>343295679
ASS?
>didn't fix astoras rolling r1 glitch
wew. I guess that's a patch fix though, not a regulation.
>>343294768
>every single advantage
Are you retarded or something? Invaders are so fucked they don't have any advantages you fucking idiot
>>343293582
I'm glad though, first weeks invaders were so awful I prayed they'd BC out at post pontiff and not give free estus to the host.
Them getting rid of twinking that allowed them to make up for their shitness coupled with an extremely early orb allowed the game to weed out the invaders who can't put up with loses.
>>343295835
deep axe is great for the first half of the game,
but it becomes much less effective towards Aldritch since no scaling, no buffs and bosses are generally faster.
>>343296386
what is that?
>>343285810
>DS2
>>343282418
>still no Steam cloud
No Steam Cloud no buy. I don't see the point of buying the game on Steam if it doesn't even keep my savedata in the cloud.
>>343296517
>first week invaders were so awful
>invade literally anyone
>3 fucking phantoms ream my virgin asshole
>repeat every invasion
Who the fuck still cares about DS3?
>Mornes Great Hammer finally got the buff it deserved
FINALLY
>Anri Straight Sword got nerfed into oblivion
BUT I WAS THE ONLY ONE I EVER SAW USING IT
>>343282418
The flow of patchnotes in Fromsoft is convoluted...
>>343292340
Speedrunners played the game unpatched.
>>343287930
Dark Souls 1 had mechanics that raised its skill ceiling significantly. Later games are just shit when it comes to PVP.
>>343296578
I mean in the designated invader co-op areas. Every time I went to pontiff my "ally" was a free refill to the host.
Now at least most invaders I can trust to have my back because all that's left are the salty assholes itching to torture a gank. The invaders who can't endure it gave up.
>>343296606
people with taste
>>343296740
this is why speedrunning is a joke
>>343282418
>adjusted weapon efficiency accordingly
how do you understand what changed, why can't they actually write down the fucking numbers
>>343282418
>hornet ring nerfed
>daggers buffed to compensate since that's their role
>fai/int scaling being added to some of the weapons it should have been on to begin with
>dark sword nerfs
>anri's nerfs
>shield countering buffs
>obscuring ring nerf
a step in the right direction.
>>343296057
Obscuring Ring got buffed, right?
>Increased distance at which ring takes effect
>>343296638
I used the ASS as well.
Too bad knowing From it's gonna get its damage reduced so much it'll be completely fucking worthless now. It is pretty powerful as it is but the stat requirements on it only work with really specific builds to even it out.
>>343296524
It's (presumably) a glitch where the Astora Greatsword rolling attack is not only unparrayble (making it the only unparrayble rolling attack) but for some odd reason, it can do THRUST damage when it's really a overhead slamming rolling attack. Since it counts as THRUST damage, it procs counter damage and the Leo Ring benefits from this. Basically, glitched rolling attack + counter thrust damage + Leo Ring + Red Tearstone Ring + Morions Blade = instakill.
>>343282418
What bothers me is that they're buffing anti-shield weapons. Nerf GSs instead, because the smaller ones already suffer enough.
>>343297252
rough translation, anon. a proper translation would tell you that it's radius of effect has been enlarged, which means the bubble in the middle where you're not invisible got bigger.
>>343297303
Hooooly shit. I got to try this now.
>>343293078
What about the SL80 and upwards invasions where most of the PvP happens anyways?
I can still shit on new players on low levels because I'm good at the game and can still fix my gear and stats right, but the high level PvP suffers more from the nerfs invaders have because the skill level there is equal.
I never really felt like darksword was OP. You just get hit twice by it then you roll away. I've never had problems fighting a darksword user. Feels like I'm fighting someone using a Longsword.
Am I missing something here?
>>343297485
Well, fuck.
>>343297579
They're the most likely class to proc a third hit should there be even a little latency on your part.
>>343285810
>DaS2
You answered your own question. It is a game worth forgetting.
>>343297579
darksword can reach farther than most spears and, being a straightsword, is faster than most other weapons. this combined with its high AR make it extremely overpowered. basically if you're not hyper armoring trades, parry spamming, or somehow outranging it you're fucked.
any% speed run route is fucked
>>343297991
they'll just play it unpatched like BB because speedrunners are cowards
>>343296606
Everyone that hates DaS2 like me. Adaptability is a fucking terrible concept for a stat.
>>343282418
So they just made magic useless by reducing the scholar stick. Eay to fucking go
>>343282418
>Still no buff to the Great Scythe/Corwian Scythe weapon art
Why do they insist on keeping that fucking weaponart so slow when it requires you to hit a specific area on the enemy,
>>343297663
>>343297485
>>343297252
basically think of the area of effect that makes you invisible as a giant doughnut that's bigger than any of the given zones. anything inside that aoe is effected by a debuff that makes them unable to see the user. when they get close enough to you they step into the dooughnut's hole, where the aoe doesn't exist, and thus the debuff is no longer on them. increasing the size of the doughnut inscreases the size of the donut hole as well.
>>343297579
It has the longest range out of all other swords, with the exception of Gotthard.
This leads to people able to catch you in rolling and continuing r1 spamming you which is why it's OP
>>343298157
no anon, they made it so magic builds can have more variety :^)
>tfw still gitting gud at DS
>See this
Time to get fucked.
>>343298962
is that the Sega Saturn version?
>>343298456
>>343282418
>profaned greatsword still good
all is well
>nerfing hornet ring instead of the real problem which is parry frames and riposte window being too long
protips on nameless king please
i kill the bird without getting hit and then proceed to get bodied
>>343299031
http://www.readtheory.org
this may help you.
>>343299248
roll roll attack
>>343298456
>food analogy
>>343299287
thanks, gonna try that
>>343298126
Instead we got nonexistent poise that makes huge armor useless thus making weight load useless thus making luck stat useless.
>>343299251
>it's your fault!
>not that I'm fucking terrible at giving explanations!
I understood what you wrote, but that was some overly convoluted shit that could've been more cleanly exposed
>>343286338
Sharp/luck/carthus
There you go buddy. Then have warden twin blades as backup
>>343299289
got a problem with using a common object to describe a shape? should I have used washer, inner tube, hurricane, lifesaver, or some other non-edible example?
What thoughts? Game is boring as shit now, it was Dark Souls 1 with Bloodborne's QoL improvements except slightly worse in every aspect.
>Dark sword nerfed
Easy to parry was never an issue
>Hornet ring nerfed
>MUH 1 HITS ZOMG WOW FROM THIS IS CHEAP
>>343299870
>now instead of getting killed in 1 riposte it takes 2
I agree that the issue was not addressed properly.
>>343299248
Wear lightning resistant armor, use one of those crest shields with high lightning resistence or Lothric Knight Shield, use yellow bug pellet, and wear the lightning resistant ring.
You're gonna need to dodge. ALOT. Don't get greedy, take your time get 1 or 2 hits in and back off until there's an opening for you to attack.
I'm serious about those lightning resistant items, you literally take hAlf the damage if you're extremely resistant to lightning.
>>343299248
cheese him with a bow just like pontiff.
>>343299668
Why did you spoiler that? It's just a pokemon enjoying a delicious glazed donut
>>343300339
didn't want to trigger the anon that's so offended by food.
Did they make magic not shit like in every other Souls game?
>>343300459
magic isn't shit in the other games thoughcompared to this one.
>>343282418
>increased heysel pick scaling
YES
FINALLY MY RETARDED "ALL DE MAGIC" BUILD WILL WORK
>Want to make a Paladin build
>Realize faith is literally shit in 3, there are no good scaling faith weapons and most DMG spells got nerfed the fuck out
It's still my favorite From game after DaS 1 but they fucked up faith really bad.
>>343300459
Sorceries where never shit in DaS3 and actually got some buffs recently. Miracles are another issue entirely, but they are slowly getting better with each update.
>>343282418
>Nerfing Anri's sword
FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU
>>343297303
What are you on about? The rolling attack is a thrust attack and the weapon is classified as slash/thrust. The only glitch there is if it really is unparryable.
About to start playing for the first time.
Any tips?
What's a good STR and/or DEX weapon for PvE?
I played this game for 200 hundred hours and just completely stopped caring about it. I guess it's pretty good but it just feels so... stale
>>343301065
go str dex and use a refined broadsword
you literally fucking murder everything
>>343301065
Dex is for fags
>>343301065
A good quality build I did:
27 Vig
40 End
25 Vit
40 Str
40 Dex
Then run a refined Astora Great sword. At +9 it gets A/A scaling and puts out 700 base damage. No buffs. Have parry dagger or casteus for off hand. Good times man.
>>343302194
>25 vit
But why?
>>343302194
Sorry meant 23 Vit and those stats are for lvl 120 starting as deprived
>>343299870
>Dark Sword
>Easy to parry
It literally only requires a bit of self-control by the user to become the best weapon of the game. Same with any SS really.
>>343302258
Helps tank damage from heavy weapons and you can vary your armor/play style heavily with the free weight.
If you don't like that, you can put those points between int/fai and run a pyromancy glove or magic buffs or faith heals.
>>343302194
>40 dex
Do you suck dicks?
>>343301065
use the greatmachete and make it heavy, you'll get an upgrade later in the game.
>>343302805
yes
>>343296550
>>343297887
*sighs* I love this meme!
>>343302741
Yeah by that logic, so could any weapon
>>343282418
Wow dude this is a good patch that makes PvP a lot more balanced, especially added faith scaling and dark sword nerf.
Why the FUCK did it take them so long? These are issues people have been complaining about loudly since like the first day the game came out. The fact that something so basic and obvious took them three months is down right comical.
>>343302805
>Doesn't understand scaling caps
>Doesn't understand quality builds
>Doesn't
>Do not
>Don't
>>343302194
>refined astora greatsword
>A/A scaling at +9
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>343303021
what did you expect?
Bloodborne was also a fucking mess until 6 months after the game released, and then it only got good when the DLC was out.
>>343282418
>still no love whatsoever for vordt's greathammer
man fuck you japs.
It's really odd to me how bad faith and magic were on release considering that Bloodtinge and Arcane in Bloodborne have always been fucking ridiculous power houses, but took extra effort to be good, which is exactly how it should be.
>>343303112
It's str and Dex scaling both become A/a at +9. Or maybe 10. It's one or the other. Pretty black and white either way though.
>>343303158
I don't know why people keep acting like Bloodborne was total irredeemable shit until the DLC, most people loved it on release. It had AWFUL framerate and load time issues that were patched within like two weeks, that was the only real problem.
>>343298456
Programmer here.
You're a dummy.
>>343303336
The refined AGS becomes B/B +10 at 40 dex and str, did i do something wrong?
>Invade someone as Aldrich Faithful
>Host is MIA
>Run around looking for the host for a good three minutes together with a red phantom
>Finally find him sitting in a fucking circle with another Faithful and red phantom doing absolutely nothing
>Try to attack the host
>His buttbuddies turn on us
PvP in this game is cancer.
>Attack him
>>343282793
This
Mfw got collectors, all it collects is dust.
>>343303453
Idk mines a/a. Don't really know why they'd be different unless yours just inst +10 and you think it is.
>>343303191
For DS3, From couldn't get rid of the established souls caster pedigree without deviating from the safe and accessible derivative of DS1 they were going for.
>>343303405
It took them longer than 2 weeks to completely unfuck the matchmaking, but yeah, most of its issues were resolved very early on. If BB had the post-release staff of DS2 or 3 we probably never would've seen load time patches at all.
>>343303624
stop lying man, even the wiki pages says it's B/B
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/equipmentgroup:astora-greatsword
in what universe do you live?
>>343303685
I think what makes Arcane so much cooler than sorcery, especially post dlc, is wielding a weapon and also casting straight out of your hands. Being a crazy fucking squid alien that shoots magic right from his body is so much cooler than being a dinky mage with a stick it isn't even funny.
Even before the DLC you could make almost any weapon efficient with Arcane in multiple ways (fire, arc, or bolt gems) and also have all the spells right up your sleeve. It is way, way more varied and interesting.
>>343303685
>>343303405
Are you guys dense? I was talking about BB's multiplayer gameplay.
Thankfully BB and DS3 have the same multiplayer balance team, so DS3 should be fine after the DLC, just like BB.
>>343303798
Nvrmind I did a pyromancy and quality run where I used them and had the chaos scaling mixed with the refined. I was thinking chaos was b/b but that is what was a/a.
>>343304173
you're a fucking faggot you know that right
>>343304256
Only the biggest
>>343304386
you're a HUGE homosexual
what's with the hostility in the souls community on /v/?
>>343304386
you're the biggest dick-vaper i've ever seen in my life
>>343304386
stop being such a giant erotic MAN raper
>>343304386
you're so gay i'm even samefagging tellin you how fucking disgusting you are
>>343303526
>Invade someone in the meme zone.
>Surprised when he gets memed on.
>Proceed to lose 2v3 because you're an Aldrich shitter who can't even win a 1v1.
>>343282418
My faith build benefits greatly from the weapons being buffed with faith scaling
>>343304583
Its just a bit of banter.
>>343304904
you're such a penis-licker you didn't even see my post >>343304817
clean your eyes from that sperm dude, it's not ok
>>343304085
You said simply
>bloodborne was a fucking mess
I didn't know you just meant multiplayer. You're right though, Bloodborne is my favorite by far but it had the worse multiplayer at launch ever, the invasion system was and still is critically flawed and badly designed and the invasions/co-op at launch straight up did not work, especially the password system.
>>343304583
I think that it is a mixture of two things.
Reason A is that by the nature of their design the first souls game you play will always have a special feeling in your heart that the others probably didn't give you as much. This happened with a lot of people who started with Dark Souls II, because the series was really still quite niche until Dark Souls II so it was many people's launching point, leading them to be strongly attached to the one game most other fans hate causing constant conflict.
Reason B is that /v/ is filled with retarded children and NEETs, (mostly the former) who fall into terrible, cancerous console war bickering that somehow never gets banned or deleted despite being a global rule and having multiple threads every day. The Souls got most popular when it became multiplatform, but the PC/xbox crowd is missing what are generally considered two of the strongest entries in the series which fosters platform hostility.
>>343302960
Not really.
>>343305842
>Not understanding logic
Okay pal-lo friendo.
>>343306057
thnaks for the yuos man rlly need them
>>343298962
>See this
See what? Only 2 enemies in that image will attack you. Is this your first souls?
