You think you want int/faith builds, but really you don't.
fuck that hack
fucking shigeru miyamoto literally gutted magic while all these bara bait guts building cucks plague the game
>>343236221
Faith is working as intended
>>343236221
We can all agre Dark Souls 2 was shit by From standards and Dark Souls 3 was stale, but what game truly was Miyakzai's magnus dongus, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, or Bloodborne?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PhACZWs.png "latest[1].png")
>>343237241
Demon's SoulsTouch the demon inside me.
>Play Dark Souls
>Choose mage class
>Expecting cool magic
>Only an arrow move with its upgrades and shield/sword buff
WTF, if I wanted to play a dex build I wouldn't have chosen mage
>>343237241
I like Dark Souls gameplay the most, but I think I like the animations and other stuff of Demon's Souls better.
>>343236221
i never put a point in either in any of my souls playthroughs
>>343237241
Miyazaki games tierlist:
Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Armored Core For Answer > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Armored Core 4
>>343237241
I like dark souls gameplay better, but bloodborne's atmopshere and story better.
>>343237906
>>343238038
Hmm
QUESTION
>physical damage cuts/crushes/stabs you
>fire damage burns you
>lightning damage shocks you
>magic damage ______ you
>dark damage _______ you
???????
It's rpetty clear miyazaki didn't have a big hand in ds3
the quality of everything in Des/Ds1/BB puts the amateurs in charge of ds2 and 3 to shame
>>343238142
Magic damage denatures you.
Dark damage corrupts you.
objective quality list, factoring in all applicable dlcs:
DaS1 = BB > DaS3 > DeS = SotFS >>> DaS2
>>343238142
magic damage kills your cells by destroying their DNA
dark damage mutates your cells and they die
>>343238360
>Magic damage denatures you
What does that even mean?
>>343238142
Also, the Abyss/Humanity (dark magic) is more corrosive than anything else
Just play bloodborne
>>343238548
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=denature
>>343238142
I always thought of magic like an acid or something that burns you in a different way.
Also, does anyone alse get bothered by this or am I just an autist:
>weapon has 0 physical damage
>even though it is a physical object that should have at least 1 phys damage because you're hitting enemies with a solid object
Dark Soul's moonlight greatsword and Bloodborne's elemental infused gem weapons come to mind.
>>343238594
No, BB has shit magic. I want them to rework the damage numbers on these spells, because the spell variety is great and the ash flask/mana system is interesting
>>343237241
No, I think B-team makes better games than Miyazaki
>>343238784
which is funny because the best version of the moonlight greatsword is in dark souls 1
>>343238174
>Miyazaki not involved
>The DLC for Dark Souls 3 will not reedems it's negative qualities like it did for DS2 and BB
Hold me guys
>>343238784
>implying that they don't become blades of pure fire/lightning/arcane etc.
Graphics engine just let's you down, you're swinging a lightsaber
>>343237241
Demon's Souls = Dark Souls > Bloodborne > 3 > dogshit > cancer > 2
If you use anything other than pure STR then just fucking neck urself
>>343239239
Scholar/DaS2 dlc are good
>>343238772
Not him but I though that there was a spider in my screen for asecond because of that moving cursor.
>>343238937
>dark souls 1 has the best moonlight sword
Nah, BB's the best:
>actually importanto to lore and connected in a big way to important character who fights you with it
>particle effects and glows in the dark
>uses bullets instead of durability
>you an use it's beams as follow ups if your first swing misses your target
>>343238937
Nigger did you play Bloodborne?
Shit was so fucking cash
>you will never own a Ps3 and be able to play Demon's Souls
I guess I'll just have to settle for DaS
>>343239334
I am going to kill you with lmao2kat and there is nothing you can do to stop me
>>343238142
>Magic damage irradiates you
>Dark damage corrodes you
>>343239334
alright we get it you think neck yourself is a cool expression, I've seen a post in every fucking Ds thread today with some faggot telling people the neck themselves
>>343238142
In souls series dark orbs are just a big chunk of extremely dense matter that literally hits you like a fucking truck.
I'm too lazy to find the description, but dark is basically a physical kind of magic.
>>343236221
>Really want a magic/pyromancy build.
>Like really really want this build.
>Level up to 300 specifically to make magic viable in NG+
>Farron flashsword eats the fuck out of my mana but most of my estus are ashen to remedy this.
>Still struggling, but not as much as I thought I would be.
>Don't even PVP, just want to use magic all through NG++.
If I want something, I get it. Whether you like it or not.
>New patch will nerf magic and faith further.
>>343237241
definitely dark souls
>>343239434
but I do own a ps3, and a 360, and a wii, and roughly 80% of all home consoles that came before them
>>343239446
Tell that to my Great club weak manlet
You've got all 5 protagonists in a locked room together. No lamps/bonfires, and no darksigns/hunters marks. If all of them were at their respective pvp meta ranges and using tryhard meme builds for their respective games, and you told them all that they had to fight to the death (singular) to escape, which would win? Who would die first?
>>343239668
I was talking about myself, but okay
>>343239526
Yeah, but the Abyss aka dark soul magic corroded away Artorias like an acid
>>343239758
Dark Souls 2 guy wins if we're using pre-patch rules. Helixodon buffstacking is literally unstoppable, and the Demons Souls/Dark 3/Bloodborne guys don't even have poise,
>>343239758
Probably Slayer of Demons with his retarded dagger hitting like a truck
Bearer of the Curse if Monastery Scimitar still worked
>>343237241
Bloodborne
>>343239732
>trying to sound intimidating while using the worst weapon in the whole game
Lul
>>343239373
i haven;t had much experience with it in BB, i stopped playing because of chalice dungeon fatigue after completing the build
>>343237241
DaS2 is my favorite to be honest, everything just felt like an improvement over DaS1 and DeS, except Soul Memory of course.
if the devs could have made the movement mechanics in Ds2 identical to that in Ds1 and made the world more connected Ds2 would have been great
>>343239819
>YOU will never
I do believe you used that term improperly then
>>343239907
>>343239921
Latest game patches only, forgot to specify
>>343239526
>dark orbs
That's what dark orbs and beads are. Not all Dark is solid.
Is doing a Moonlight build in Dark Souls 3 worth it yet or is it still suffering?
>>343240048
Fug, well in that case Dark Souls 1 wins.
>>343239958
It's only bad if you don't know how to use it
>>343240090
MLGS is actually pretty good again in DS3. Not BB or DS1 levels of good, but it's alright.
DS3 is still a clusterfuck in terms of balance though.
>no poise
>pure caster builds retardedly underpowered
>all split damage weapons are garbage
>invasions horribly unbalanced in favor of the host
etc. I'm waiting til DLC drops until I play it again.
Why is it that when I go to bed and leave a thread updating overnight, when I come back to it to see what people said, the post quality drops like a stone at around midnight EST? This happens all of the time, I don't know why it's so consistent
>>343240043
I was referring to myself. I didn't even reply to you so idk where the fuck you came from, lol.
>>343240025
I can't go back to the old movement after DaS2, it just feels much better imo
>>343240020
But everything about it is a downgrade in some fashion
how do you feel the opposite of reality?
It works kind of well against retards
>>343240048
Dark Souls 1 definitely, hornet havelmom kumo/great club has poise and instant backstabs
>>343240048
Slayer of Demons/Chosen Undead
Good Hunter doesn't really have any super OP shit and Bearer of the Curse got nerfed to death. Champion of Ash is pretty strong, but bleed isn't as OP as 180 dead angle weapon swap
>play full caster in ds2
>all int/faith/attunement, sorc/pyro/miracles/hexes
>dat spell variety
>them combos
>shit is viable in pve and pvp
>can't wait to try it again with whatever changes ds3 brings
>catalyst weapon arts, more spell variety, more resources with mp bar
>ds3 comes
>literally every catalyst weapon art is the same
>spell variety a fucking joke in comparison to ds2
>cast time too long and spell tracking too slow in game with faster combat pacing
>half the spells are useless due to cost vs damage, tracking, hitboxes
>mp bar restricted casting even more than vancian could ever hope to
Holy shit how do you fuck it up so bad.
It was good in ds2! How can you make that and then go "ok, now forget everything we did there and redo all of this from scratch".
Maybe the dlcs will do something to fix it a little, but I doubt it.
All I wanted was ds2 with better level design and a story more like ds1. The mechanics were good, and ds3 just shat all over that. Every mechanic change in ds3 turned out fucking horrible and we didn't even get much to make up for that.
>buy DaS on the sale after 120 hours on a pirate copy
>doing co-op with my cousin
>invading
>being invaded
>making some buddies via online
>duels in Oolacile
Holy shit I've missed so much. I should have buy this earlier.
>>343236221
I honestly liked my INT and FTH builds on DS3.
Why do so many people have problems with it?
I mean I never tried a PURE CASTER only on DS3, but like shit dude it wasn't designed around that ever in any souls game.
>>343238949
source?
Miyazaki didn't have a big role in the DS2 dlc, and shit was great
Doll > Herald > MiB > Fire Keeper
>>343239373
god Faraam set is so ugly
I can't believe we got that shit in DS3 over the Dingy set
>>343240349
your opinion is stupid and wrong
>>343240660
Faraam looks great, you're just letting your negative DS2 bias overwhelm you. Most of the prebaked lighting zones made the armor look plastic-y in DS2 but in DS3 it looks great everywhere.
>>343240638
Herald is the worst, green is ugly af
Doll > Fire Keeper = MiB > Bonfire-chan > Herald
![0f2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/qk6hwaX.png "0f2[1].png")
>>343240638
>anything > MiB
>>343237241
Bloodborne
It's the only game in the series that's balanced and fair
>>343240551
Hybrid FAI builds are garbage because you're wasting 30+ points of FAI for homeward + heal spells, and you'd be far better served taking more normal estus, buying some bones, and sinking those stats elsewhere
>but muh buffs and lightning
Trash without the FAI of a pure FAI build (and even then they still suck)
Hybrid INT builds suck because there's nothing with sorcery that's worth taking at lowish (below 40+) INT because support INT doesn't really exist outside of useless Oolacile spells, and until you minmax for pure caster you're doing 0 damage
>>343240358
I'm obviously in the minority here, but the they added a lot of stuff that made up for its flaws, like having the best version of poise, powerstance, slower estus healing, good weapon balance, more usable movesets, and some other stuff I gotta think about.
>>343240660
In my headcanon, Alva is the posterboy set of DS2. It fits even better because you get it early on, it's a knight set and it looks great. It's also the one used by the gesture icons so I don't know why they pushed Faraam as posterboy.
>>343240690
I respect your opinioneven if it's wrong
Does anybody actually have fun standing across the room from an enemy and shooting soul arrows?
Of course its weak. risk/reward.
>he killed the MiB at the end of DeS
>he sided with Kaathe in DaS1
>he didn't choose to hang out with Aldia in DaS2
>he didn't choose to become a squid in BB
>he didn't link the fire in DaS3
I know you heretics are lurking ITT somewhere. Explain yourselves right now.
>>343240220
>DS3 is still a clusterfuck in terms of balance though.
Not as bad as Dark Souls 2 thankfully, but worse than Demon's, Dark 1 and Bloodborne's balance for sure.
Best Weapon = Rakuyo
Best Zone = Latria
Best Soundtrack = Maiden Astraea
Best Friendly NPC = Siegmeyer of Catarina
Best Invader/Hostile NPC = Meatcleaver BP in 5-2
Best NPC Summon = Transcendent Edde
Best Side Quest = Lautrec's quest
Biggest Surprise (assuming blind playthrough) = Yurt, the Silent Chief
Best Boss = Manus, Father of the Abyss
Pyromancer builds in DS3 are straight overpowered for both pve and pvp alike, best arsenal of spells, multiple types of softcapped elemental damage on weapons, you can rape every single boss with the damage type he's weak to.
Sorcerer is not far off. Farron sorceries alone make ds3 sorcerer more pvp-viable than in rest of the series. You can do cool builds like sneaky magic sniper who kills people from another side of an area with soul stream. They also have access to a very powerful hybrid glaive/caster tool, greatsword with UGS-tier damage and second best rapier.
Faith builds are the only currently underpowered ones but they are still the most pvp-viable faith casters that series after DS1 and its ridiculous wog.
>>343241364
>prolonging the sad life of a dying world even further
I seriously hopeThe rest are all heresy however
INT builds are good, just not for PvP.
>>343240434
There are a few things they need to do to make magic viable:
1. Lower magic costs just a little bit for each spell.
2. Slightly faster casting.
3. More spells for each category (magic/miracle/pyromancy)
Bonus - More quirky catalysts.
>>343240953
>Hybrid FAI builds are garbage
hybrid fai builds have tears of denial, force, replenishment and chime's WA, your opinion is irrelevant
>>343241598
There is literally nothing wrong with linking the flame in DaS1, the world was fine until Kaathe and his Darkwraiths/Oolacilians started fucking shit up.
DaS3 is what happens when you leave dark-worshipers in charge of the Church and government (hint: bad things).
>>343241857
Oh, I was referring to 3. Shit seemed like it was going less south in 1.
>>343241527
Best Weapon = Claymore
Best Zone = Ash Lake
Best Soundtrack = Gwyn's Theme
Best Friendly NPC = Solaire of Astora
Best Invader/Hostile NPC = Kirk, Knight of Thorns
Best NPC Summon = Iron Tarkus
Best Side Quest = Lautrec's Quest
Biggest Surprise (assuming blind playthrough) = The Hydras
Best Boss = Ornstein and Smough
>>343240434
>pyro flame/talisman combo
>chime/catalyst combo
>no pyro flame/catalyst combo
>staff used by PYRO WITCHES gives bonuses to dark, a sorcery style that formed after their death
W H Y
H
Y
>>343241364
>>he killed the MiB at the end of DeS
Gotta keep them Soul Arts alive brother
>>343240387
I started an int/faith build recently and this spell is amazing. It costs barely anything, does decent damage based on it's cost and the slow speed means you can either force a roll and catch them with another attack or just straight up hit them if the first hits. I'm at Irithyll and I'm now more sure than ever people complaining about Intelligence and Faith are just whiners. Except for the costs on offensive Faith miracles, it's not an offensive spell type (you would think people would fuckin guess that from all the heals) but they're still a bit too high for the utility.
>>343240434
>ds2 shitter brags about magic
ds2 magic is like the worst shit in the entire series, it had no damage after all the nerfs, no fucking rollcatching ability at all, virtually no variety among viable spells and 100% fucking elemental resistant small shields which destroyed magic in pvp
>>343241857
>>343241958
Hes wrong tho. In DaS3 the Church were light-worshipers, they fed people to Aldrich so they could dump his ass in the Fire, like a fattened pig. They only worshiped the dark after Sully came on the scene and corrupted them.
In general, it goes like this:
>DaS1: darkfriends are stupid and deluded, and ruined everything. Side with the light
>DaS3: lightfriends are stupid and deluded, and ruined everything. Side with the dark
>DaS2: picking sides is for retards, choose neither
>>343241518
>DaS2
>not balanced
I know you hate the game, but don't make shit up
>>343241518
>Worse than DkS1
>Havelmoms flipping all over the fucking place
>can't be staggered because roflinfinitepoise
>This somehow is better than ANYTHING
>>343241527
Best Weapon = Any staff
Best Zone = Demon Ruins
Best Soundtrack = Ash lake
Best Friendly NPC = Big Hat
Best Invader/Hostile NPC = Satsuki
Best NPC Summon = Tarkus
Best Side Quest = DS3 Sieg
Biggest Surprise (assuming blind playthrough) = Patches the Unbreakable
Best Boss = Orphan of Kos (hell, all BB bosses were GOAT)
>>343241527
>Best Weapon = BB MLGS
>Best Zone = Tower of Latria
>Best Soundtrack = The One Who Craves Souls
>Best Friendly NPC = Siegmeyer of Catarina
>Best Invader/Hostile NPC = Ostrava of Boletaria
>Best NPC Summon = pupper Sif
>Best Side Quest = Mephistopheles
>Biggest Surprise (assuming blind playthrough) = second Maneater
>Best Boss = Artorias
After 50 hours of PvP, I have come to the conclusion that unless you're at a fight club, PvP is useless
invasions are put so much against the invader, WAY more than any other game, that it's worthless
I'm surprised it even reached the final game at the state its at. Not to mention the myriad of balance problems; shit miracles, overpowered raw/fire weapons so you can just pump stats into vigor/endurance, slow weapons being absolute garbage compared to faster ones (don't give me that hyper armor bullshit, no amount of hyper armor will help the ridiculous start up frames), and lets not forget poise is fucking turned off so the vitality stat is pretty much useless since you can get everything with the rings.
On the PvE side, bosses had to be balanced around the horrid magic/miracles so they have far too low health
I'm actually pretty amazed they managed to fuck up this hard on the 3rd game, despite 2 being pretty damn balanced after all the patches
Ice magic in the dlc when, Miyazaki???
>>343238851
seconded
>>343237241
bloodborne
god tier PvE
balanced as fuck PvP where every (or almost every) weapon is fun and viable
phenomenal atmosphere/ost
overlooked chalices that are a great supplement to the main game
>>343241690
Maybe faster projectiles too. More importantly though:
>increase spell damage
>remove spell damage rings
It's fucking stupid casters have fewer ring slots because two of them are reserved for the spell damage ones. That shit souldn't be obligatory. Also remove dusk crown. Fuck that fashion disaster.
>>343242094
>decons throw fire from their staves
>fucking izalith catalyst
>sorcery/pyro catalyst fucking never
I realized later that it's because animation might be weird, but still.
>>343242216
>lightning was nerfed, so now all magic is shit
Magic was fine. There was enough variety to force players to panic roll their stamina away until they couldn't dodge your next soul spear, especially if you mixed hexes in.
>100% fucking elemental resistant small shields
Switch damage type, nerd. Or are you the kind of scrubmage who only uses one type of elemental magic?
There was one set of equipment that was completely immune to all elements, but nobody used that other than after getting their shit kicked in in fight clubs and to counter that one mage specifically, and when that happened it was fucking hilarious.
>>343240660
alva set should have been the poster armor for 2
>>343242827
but we have crystal magic anon
>>343238142
Magic hits you right in the soul.
Have they even hinted at what the DLC is gonna be for DS3?
>>343240660
In terms of cover armors, it's definitely
BB > DS1 > Demon's > DS2 > DS3
>>343242097
the only good miracles are lightning stake, tears of denial, and the sword buffs
everything else is trash or more heals that you don't need
>>343243113
It's not the same, anon
>>343242095
>Not killing her once and keeping her alive on your next three playthroughs because you need to be on NG++++ to get all the trophies because of THIS FUCKING THING.
>>343241527
Best Weapon = Moonlight Greatsword
Best Zone = Ash Lake
Best Soundtrack = Great Grey Wolf Sif
Best Friendly NPC = Laurentius of the Great Swamp
Best Invader = Yellowfinger Heysel
Best NPC Summon = Black Iron Tarkus
Best Side Quest = Siegward of Catarina
Biggest Surprise = Siegward/Yhorm
Best Boss = Chaos Witch Quelaag
>>343243426
There is literally fucking nothing in Ash Lake.
>>343242716
Demon's Ruins was dogshit
>>343236221
Can we agree that Dark Souls 2 has the best PvP, and below average everything else, with the DLC being on par with AotA?
>>343236221
He's a hack. along with Kojima and the rest of them.
>>343242716
>>343242772
>>343243426
Great taste anons, 10/10.
Ash lake remains as best place of the series.
>>343242094
>SPEAR that scales off FAITH and casts SORCERIES
why?
>>343241528
>game is full of gank squads and the game prioritizes their invasion because fuck from soft
>WotG is needed now more than ever
>nerfed INTO THE GROUND, 3 second start up
>>343243482
Ash Lake looks fuckin' rad. Demon Ruins is still dogshit tho
>>343243482
Siegmeyer's questline concludes there. And it's kinda pretty I guess.
>>343243241
>BB first
Approved. Day what you want, but bb's the most unique (even if it was pulled out of Brotherhood of the Wolf) while the others are just medieval knightsets.
>>343242987
dusk crown would be nice if it was pure white and didnt have that retarded chin band
>>343237241
Tie between Demon and Blood, both have pretty fun magic.
>>343243573
It's painfully easy to spot the plebs who never played Demon's Souls.
Anyone who played the game knows Tower of Latria cannot be topped.
>>343243607
That one kinda makes sense as its a Darkmoon themed item and moon=magic, stat wise its still retarded though,
>>343243482
It doesn't need anything significant to be the most beautiful area.
When every other area is chock full of stuff to collect, having one optional area where the reward is a gorgeous view is entirely okay.
I hope it's back again in a Dark Souls 3 DLC.
>>343243573
>ash pake best area
Too bad is empty as fuck. It lioks nice, but there were better deigned areas.
>>343239559
>nerfing faith even more
Fucking WHY? Faith is shit as it is. The bolts barely do shit damage and most miracles are buffs anyhow.
>>343241518
>le everything in DS2 is shit muh B-team meme
DS2 is my least favorite but it's easily the most balanced of the dark souls games
whether you think 3 or 1 is less balanced is up to how much you think poise/dark magic is broken in 1 or how bad the buttfuck loads of balance problems are in 3 (at least 1 doesn't make invaders fucked)
>>343243426
Best Soundtrack should be Ivory King.
>>343243723
>Anyone who played the game knows Tower of Latria cannot be topped.
You would be right,if Research Hall didn't exist.
>>343243760
>>343243767
The thing is not what is inside Ash Lake but how small do you feel when reaching it.
You are literally in the lowest part of the world only to discover a giant mass of water and humongous trees that shape a infinite forest.
The hydra looks scary as fuck, and the fact that the lake may be plagued of them is even creepier.
Also the stone dragon is rad as fuck.
>>343243771
I'm not even mad anymore, I'm just laughing at this useless P.O.S Miracle right here.
It's slow, it's effect is "drains health" but you get about 20 HP out of your 2000 back from a hit IF you can land it. The damage is poorer than any weapon including daggers no matter how high your faith.
The only thing it has going for it is it looks cool.
Bloodborne is the best game From has made, and the best Miyazaki will ever make.
It has some drawbacks in the multiplayer department, but those are made up for in a much fucking deeper game with more thought put into it's actual content and lore and movesets.
>>343244040
I'm seriously considering getting a PS4 just for this game once either the neo comes out or I just get around to it. Played it once or twice at a friend of mine's and it is actually really fun.
>>343243886
Souls 2 is my least favorite of the games, but it did have the most balanced PVP in my opinion - however, facets of the game like Soul Memory hampered mine and a lot of individuals' ability to actually appreciate that balance.
I'm saying this with the stipulation, though, that:
>>343243906
I didn't play SOTFS.
>>343244040
BB needs to fucking add a Respec item already. It would extend the game's life for another half a year I bet.
Holy fuck, I want to try the other weapons but I do not want to make new characters.
>>343243757
why is there no chime that scales off int
>>343243301
The heals average out to giving you far more healing than having just estus since you get multiple heals per 1 ashen flask, and as a bonus can heal other players as well. If it counts, the chime weapon art is amazing healing as well. Force would be quite decent if it wasn't for the cost, same with the Spears and Gnawing is quite strong too. Faith is supposed to be more supplemental and health focused anyway.
>>343244501
so pretty much fuck faith builds then?
>>343244021
>is literally the Scythe weapon art, with its god awful attack angle
>but twice as slow
>and does less damage
>>343244338
Hell if I know, probably going to be a DLC item. Honestly I'm just hoping the DLC gives more options for gimmick builds, like more than 4 poison weapons, 2 of which are pure shit.
>>343237241
Honestly Bloodborne just has the best execution from beggining to end, even if DaS is my personal favorite.
>>343244040
they really just needed one last big multiplayer-related patch to make the game perfect
>>343244015
Regardless of whatever first impression ash lake gave you, there are other areas with a similar wow factor AND an actual area to explore, with npc's and bosses.
Ashlake becomes stale on subsequent playthroughs with no reason to go back down there.
>>343243426
Best Weapon = DaS Murakumo
>that fucking moveset
>those fucking combos
>those quality build stats
Honorable mention to Scraping Spear
Best Zone = Latria, Boletaria
Best Soundtrack = Gwyn, Tower Knight
Best Friendly NPC = Ostrava
Best Invader =Ostrava
Best NPC Summon = Tarkus is the broest
Best Side Quest = Mephistopholes, Yurt
Biggest Surprise = Ornstein in DS2
Best Boss = Old Monk, by far. Can't believe this mechanic was only used once
>>343244164
Bloodborne has it's flaws (there are much less collectible items and variety in general, but everything of value is REALLY good) so when you see a shiny item, get prepared to see "coldblood" a LOT.
It's very fun though. The combat is the best out of any souls game, the weapons are unique and interesting, the bosses are very fast and intense and the lore behind it is very unique.
Arcane builds are very hard to pull off sadly because of the bullets.
With that said, no console is worth only one game, so just buy a ps4 if you have more than one game you plan on buying for it. I don't PC game so the ps4 is perfect for me.
>>343244193
Make an arcane build and get acces to 90% of all the weapons through gem infusions.
>>343244659
I agree on that but I think the beauty of it is how empty and meaningless it is.
I would love to see it remade in DaS 3.
>>343244591
Faith is "Win by not losing". Work to what the stat gives you, don't try and repurpose the stat to what you specifically want, and you might have more success.
>>343243617
Invade in Anor Londo. The Aldrich Faithful covenant always ensure you get more invaders than you do Phantoms. Sometimes you get 3 invaders against the host alone.
>>343243760
>>343244015
Don't forget the music.
Ash Lake makes me wish more DaS areas had music. It's really great.
>>343244849
>Arcane builds are very hard to pull off
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
They are LITERALLY the most overpowered builds in pve and the most stat efficient builds in pvp.
The moment you grab the flamethrower is the moment game goes easy mode and with each next arcane item and gem you find you only grow stronger, by the time you do the very first chalice you will have two fire gems good enough to annihilate the entirety of ng pve and you can even get the better versions if you wish.
>>343242773
invasions are easy mode if you are a sorcerer build, even if its 3v1 or some shit
magic is waaaaaay underrates in DS3... it's only subpar in the duel arena behind sillyvan's cathedral
>>343244637
thats not what i want though its just weird they went out of their way to make faith scaling staffs but not that
what I want is a catalyst that will cast all dark magic and actually do good damage
>>343245321
this is horseshit and only works against retards
>>343245123
Bloodborne is so fucking good. I didn't finished, but I played a huge chunk of it over a friend's house. It's clearly the best Souls game. The atmosphere is top notch.
>>343244040
>It has some drawbacks in the multiplayer department, but those are made up for in a much fucking deeper game with more thought put into it's actual content and lore and movesets.
This. Some guy was playing Dark Souls 3 and got to untended graves and said something along the lines of "On any other game i would complain that the developer is reusing assets, but here it blows my mind. I'm sure there are stupidly deep implications lore-wise for this."
Those "stupidly deep implications" don't even exist, dark souls 3 was just copying the hunter workshop/dream which was neat and logical. Dark souls 3 just does shit like "lol now there's 3 firelink shrine, also there's piligrim butterflies and the age of the deep, but you only one sentence about them. Make up the rest."
>>343244591
in my experience faith is either
a. you get lucky by some idiot running face first into a poise sunlight spear
or b. you die
usually B
>>343244164
as someone that loves Bloodborne to death; no one game is worth that price of admission
>>343244931
Heal miracles are far too slow to use in DS3's accelerated combat especially now that estus is so fast and can be used while moving.
Sure your heals can heal your summons but at that point any build would work because you've got a gank squad beating the game for you.
>>343245359
>summoning for wolnir
>>343245359
What the fuck happened? You could've avoided that, right?
>>343245527
Once he reaches the end you can't dodge it
>>343245478
>>343244849
Well, maybe not literally for bloodborne alone, but for console exclusives and for multiplayer with my friends who don't have a PC.
>>343245527
I think it was just lag, nothing like that ever happened when I fought Wolnir.
>>343245598
But the host survived, you sure you just didn't have to be on the other side?
>>343245375
put on obscuring ring and even cast invisible body if ur scared
soul stream for 1k dmg lol and he can't even see it coming
>>343245416
>Those "stupidly deep implications" don't even exist,
You know, I'm sure Miyazaki has a plan and story for everything but he can't be assed to tell it all so he implies very little, and sometimes decides to scratch his ass and skip including subtle hints or explanations in favour of other vague bullshit that won't get answered.
>>343245710
Is that the new souls game?
>>343245772
how the fuck do you get 1k off that?
>>343245359
>fight this faggot for the first time
>get him down to one bracelet
>keeps that arm up for the rest of the fight
>eventually he just keeps climbing and his head goes through the back wall
>die to the fog
Fuck this boss.
>>343245512
That's what all the health regen is for. The chime weapon art, blessed weapons, the ring and miracles all stack with each other, so you can either run, stay at a distance or sit behind a greatshield. Or you can just hit them and force them to heal themselves and take that opportunity, or knock them back with Force.
>>343245359
>artificial difficulty
As apposed to what? Real difficulty?
This seems like an appropriate place for this insignificant question. I only played DS2 on the PS3 and I can't handle how shitty it runs on that. Would now be a good time to buy it on Steam? Is it still alive?
Please help.
>>343245905
This isn't Demon's souls health regen is incredibly slow when every hit you take is going to be 30% minimum or one shot you if they get the parry.
>>343246118
Yes, it has a good PC port and runs well, still active too. Make sure to get Scholar as it's the definitive edition with all the DLC.
>>343244846
>>Best Invader =Ostrava
Maldron > Ostrava
>>343246183
Thanks a lot. I've had the strongest urge to play it, but I don't have a PS4 and was worried Bloodborne and DS3 would have taken all the players. I haven't heard anything that good about DS3 though, so I'm not too disappointed I don't have a PS4 at the moment, but I do definitely look forward to playing it. I'm just happy I don't seem to be missing out on any hype really. It's dumb but I love that shit.
>>343244920
It was. It was called smoldering lake.
>>343246118
Has a similar average player number to DaS1 and I doubt its ever going to get cheaper than it is now. Would recommend SotFS just for the DLC, has some of my favorite boss fights in the series.
>>343246143
No it's not. The chime alone heals fast enough that I've been able to go over halfway through the game while invading with only 1/2 estus flasks that I rarely use, without having to wait around either. 30% is easy to heal back if you just play safer for a little bit, and if a parry will one shot you then healing doesn't matter then.
The only good thing about Miracles is ToD, miracles need a serious buff in damage and casting time, when drinking an estus is faster and heals more you know somethings wrong.
>>343246183
>>343246607
Thanks guys, just bought it. Excited to see all the new stuff I missed only playing the original with the DLC. Won't be much I'm expecting but I'll be happy enough to see things changed up just a little even.
>Decide i wanted to make a faith focused spell caster
>See patch notes
Why does miyazaki hate people who try to do pure magic builds?
>>343246887
Heal miracles don't really heal less actually, from experience it's been about the same, except for the crappy heal aid. Of course they're slower though, with how much they cost to cast you can use about 3 or 4 to each ashen flask.
>the class of spells that has a focus on healing should have stronger offensive spells
Are you sure you don't just want to be a sorcerer or pyromancer? I mean the stat's right next to it. I do think some miracles cost a bit more than they should but damage wise they feel fine.
>>343247663
They don't do a damn thing anon. Try using that Light of judgement miracle , it tickles enemies.
>start new DaS3 playthrough
>choose Knight
>Hmmmm guess Il go for a two handed build this time
>Get claymore
>Get fucked because I cant wear Heavy armor and a big weapon and bot wearing a helmet makes a huge difference
Fuck this shit. The one time I try a STR build and I regretted it immediately, you can't even wear whatever the fuck you want without becoming a fatrolling piece of shit.
>>343247956
Try a tank/faith build, it's useless to wear heavy armor in this game.
>>343247496
WHAT PATCH NOTES?
the last patch made spell casting faster
>>343247949
how long ago did you play? A recent patch improved all miracles (and nerfed Estoc into shit)
>>343248215
Here, have a laugh m8
>>343248270
Finished the game 2 weeks ago when that patch was out. Literally did nothing . I was around 45 Faith too.
>>343247949
I haven't gotten that yet on this playthrough but when I compared Lightning Spears to Great Soul Arrows they did more damage without even going up close for the triple damage bonus. Dorhys' Gnawing is hitting really hard right now too before the bleed even triggers. Besides, the smiting is more intended for your righteous mace.
>>343237241
>people without a ps4 will say not bloodborne.
I really enjoyed bb more than playing dark souls for the first time. I havnet played demons in ages so i need to go back and replay it. I dont think ill be able to not enjoy fast combat.
>>343248152
I'm doing it for the fashion. Plus my first build was a quality/faith crusader so I've already done that.
>>343238548
>denatures you
I think he meant devolves
>>343238393
Bloodborne dlc blew darksouls dlc out of the fucking water. Fact.
>>343238393
Why are you ranking ds3 dlc there. Idiot. We dont even know if itll be good
>>343237241
>Dark Souls 2 was shit
Dark Souls 2 atleast had decent PvP.
Miyazaki never managed to create good PvP in his games so far.
>trying to become a dickwraith is near impossible in DS1 unless you read a guide because who the fuck would not speak with the fat snake in Firelink and who would ever thing that doing that would lock you out of one of the most fun covenants
>Slashy Souls gives you one and your invader 1 million healing items and 1 million bullets so while everything is fast it also takes forever.
And Demon Souls had the same problem with fights lasting forever due to healing because super easy.
>Dark Souls 3 covenants are broken. Bosses limit invasions. And if you ever happen to invade someone enjoy getting ganked. Of course he also sucked Bloodbornes dick and everyone can heal now while walking and super fast so fights turn into long healing spams as well.
Miyazaki makes great PvE experiences but he ruins the PvP for everyone. There is a reason you encounter a lot of DS3-PvP-Sucks players in DS2 today.
>People falling for ´´Latria is best place`` meme
Just fuck off already...how can soo many people can like blood dark and corridors:the area?
Shrine of Storms is best DeS area and it baffles me how underrated it is
>>343249028
Why should it have good PvP? The nature of PvP in this Game is just to be a minor and interesting inconvenience for the player. It's not something to take seriously in any way.
>>343237241
Dark Souls 2 is best co-op souls(though Sen's might be the best co-op area in the series). Boss Health actually scales properly and the abundance of mobs makes it so everyone has something to fight.
It was also really bizarre how many of DS2's improvements to the series just randomly vanished in both BB and Ds3, which is part of the reason I'm really bitter toward those 2.
>>343248306
>april 28
>>343250494
Shrine of storms is my favorite and When ever I hear the Latria is best place I like to think they're talking about latria 2, because latria 1 is pretty terrible. Only areas worse than that might be the bridge or the poison swamp.
>>343250882
Latria is hands down the most atmospheric level in modern gaming.
>>343243407
>Not just duping it.
