>That smile to the camera right before the credits.
Is it safe to say this was one of the best RPG's created?
How did the slavs do it /v/?
>>343203307
quest and world were GOAT, most of the mechanics were pretty meh though
>The Witcher 3
>RPG
>dark souls
amazing combat with no storytelling
>witcher
awesome quests with bad combat
>>343203307
They had decent writters and decent experienced quest designers working on it.
Most games just have the programmer coding the quests as he goes. Maybe have 1 writter, writting stupid amounts of lore with no voice acting.
>>343203506
It's a game where you roleplay as Geralt.
RPG.
>>343203556
why do everyone say that Witcher 3's combat is bad?
I mean it's no Dark souls but the combat is still very good. What makes it so bad?
I thought it was cheesy as fuck, but I was still happy for Geralt.
>>343203725
It's /v/ dont fucking bother...too many opinions form too many people :)
>>343203556
>>343203725
>tfw have a literal fetish for fancy swordplay with good animations
>tfw can't get phased by the "bad" combat
>>343203725
It's clunky and you can't use fucking potions mid combat.
>>343203725
Not him but im not a huge fan of the melee combat. The magic is cool but Geralt fights like a Jedi spinning around and shit.
>>343203884
uhh, yes you can?
>Dressing like a hobo when you're a respectable business owner.
>>343203556
I've always found dark souls and bloodborne combat to be very clunky and uninteresting.
Witcher 3 seems like a rip-off of assassin's creed with dodging thrown in, and even if it is easy, it's fun to watch and do.
>>343203884
Yes you can idiot
>>343203884
You're either talking about Witcher 2 or you've never actually played Witcher 3 and are shitposting out of bitterness.
>>343203884
We talking about Witcher 2 or 3 here?
>>343203725
People play it on medium, don't learn the mechanics and just spam attack and possibly roll and when they die they take it out on the game.
>>343203936
I finished the whole game by using bombs almost exclusively, was pretty fun.
>>343203884
You can use potions in combat, you can't use them from the equipped spot in the menu. But you can use your assigned potions mid combat no problem and you can use inventory potions, or assign inventory potions.
tfw this is my favourite game
how the fuck is witcher combat bad?
it can be mediocre at its worst.
>play on deathmarch
>go for a sign/sword build
>use oils to apply poison
>use various bombs to crowd contol
>dodge, attack, counterattack
it has more combat mechanics than most RPG's out there.
>>343203307
>copied DD
>WOW EPIC BEST RPG STRATEGY FPS EVER
>>343203967
Nigga, if I owned a company I would be strutting into business meetings in footie pajamas.
>>343203884
It's one-note
It's pathetically easy
It's got no depth to it
You can beat anything, on any difficulty, by side-stepping and spamming M1
The lock-on camera and movement the forces you to strafe even when not locked on is shit
The bombs, potions, and traps are useless and just filler slapped on top of the system to feign depth
>>343204197
How the fuck did you have that many bombs? I'm a nerd who often can't into crafting systems like at all. Did you invest heavily in alchemy or what?
>>343203725
dark souls combat isn't that good.
in 1 you can cheese everything with magic
in 2 you can cheese everything with DARK magic
in 3 you can cheese everything with straight swords
sure you'll have to dodge some with the bosses, but that's the same for witch3r
>>343204359
Not even close to ddogma.
>>343204331
i don't know. i think it's because it's very easy to cheese the game. quen probably trivializes a lot of content so you can just play like a retard without any consequences
Bad difficulty design but everyone does it so whatever. I pray for the day when RPG devs make difficulty difficult, not just tiresome. I don't want the game to be a cake walk but jesus I get bored beating on things after a while. I'd like ones where enemies have far superior AI and equipment. Or just...anything but higher hitpoints and damage.
The worst offenders I can think of are BioWare games, at least the recent ones. It's been too long since there CRPG days for me to remember them.
>>343203307
I thought it was ok. Visuals are flat and plastic-y, voice acting is atrocious, writing is decent at best and the gameplay is worse than Fallout 4's
>>343204331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZmTEtLs8A
>>343204331
Why would you even need to do any of those things?
It's sort of like how in Dishonored, there wasn't actually a light/dark mechanic for the stealth "system", but everyone just assumed there was, so they assumed standing in shadow helped stealth at all.
The potions, oils, and bombs don't actually matter in TW3, you don't need to use them ever. Even on Death March, it's still just a matter of sidestepping and countering and you win everything.
>>343203506
Yer an idiot.
>>343203307
>How did the slavs do it /v/?
By giving a fuck, taking their time and basically not answering to a design committee. They have shareholders but as Iwinski said those people KNOW how CDPR operates and they agreed to support to their development style over fast and quick so it looks good on quarterly report.
>>343203702
>Halo
>Roleplay as Master Chief
Guess it's an RPG then retard.
>>343204484
https://youtu.be/BVigezwHytg?t=1m55s
>>343204331
I love TW3, but you have to be joking if you think because the game has a lot of combat mechanics it is good. W3 combat feels floaty and unresponsive and utilizing a lot of bombs and oils requires a lot of scavenging for formulas and ingredients.
>>343203307
>mfw I bought Dragon Age Inquisition over Witcher 3
I have only myself to blame.
>>343204476
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT
SOULS GAMES ARE BEST, REALISTIC AND FLAWLESS COMBAT!
>>343203725
>apply oil
>drink as many potions as you toxicity limit allows
>cast quen
>dodge when enemy bar flashes red
>spam left/right click until enemy recovers
>dodge again
>repeat ad nauseam
How is this good combat?
>>343203702
TLOU. You role play as Joel.
RPG
>>343204678
???
>>343204553
i upgraded quen fully and i couldn't rely on it in all situations. an arrow breaks your quen and allows those 5 guys that surrounded you to fuck you up. although it was a bit unchallenging at times, it was never boring (for me), and encouraged experimentation. i.e. throw a northern wind in a group of enemies and then watch their intestines fly as you cut them up.
>>343204585
that bug was fixed, try coming up with an argument instead of reposting a year old webm.
>>343204808
You could say this about every single game.
Nice try tho
>>343204965
smile at the end
>>343205017
Oh yeah, all 6 of those times you fight human opponents with bows. I Quen'd my way through Deathmarch
>>343204808
As opposed to what? Doing interpretive dance and solving an equation before each attack? You're just breaking things down to a basic mechanical level, not proving.
>>343204670
>>343204814
You just shoot things. You don't roleplay.
>>343203556
>dark souls
>amazing
not really, its better then witcher but I wouldn't call it amazing
Witcher 3 is casual shit designed for people that don't actually like RPGs.
>>343205203
>Witcher 3
>You just stab things, you don't roleplay
>>343205276
Except you know, you have several dialogue and action choices that lead to drastically different outcomes?
>>343204462
>How the fuck did you have that many bombs?
This is not really an issue most of the time because you can just meditate for 1 hour and spend a single bottle of strong alcohol to replenish all of your bombs.
It's only an issue during boss fight and long sections where you can't meditate (actually most of the boos fights can't be won with bombs only because bosses usually have ridiculously high damage reductions)
As for the long sections, it stops being an issue once you get a lot of different bombs and increase the number of bombs you can throw.
Standard is 2 charges.
Enhanced versions have 3 charges.
Superior versions have 4 charges.
Efficency from alchemy tree increases number of charges by 1 and has 5 ranks fro the total of 9 charges.
I haven't played in a while but I remeber there was also a potion that increased the number of charges by 1 or 2, I don't remember.
So once you get a bunch of bombs capable of dealing damage and all of them have 9-10 charges it's pretty hard to run out.
>>343204627
of course you don't need them, but they are useful. and each type of monster is susceptible to some sort of bomb or oil, so yes, it matters.
so, you chose to play the game with clickspam and then complain about how the game is clickspam? in the same manner you could say that dishonored isn't a stealth game because you can choose the non-stealthy approach.
>>343204731
most of formulas can be acquired by basic exploration or bought at the traders. having a lot of mechanics doesn't make it good, but i dont see everyone's issue with it. combat was fun for me, wasn't much worse than in any other rpg.
>>343205373
>Drastically different
Whether you fuck one bitch or not?
Having fun moving the goalposts?
>>343203556
>awesome quests with bad combat
The quests are terrible, witcher 'senses' is probably one of the most obnoxious game mechanics I've ever happened across. It's not even negated that it's used sparingly it's used every fucking quest.
>>343203506
>The witcher 3
>game
>>343203307
>was one of the best RPG's created?
The best you mean but then again Dragons Dogma is fantastic as well.
>>343205827
>Having fun moving the goalposts?
God damn you're one dense fellow.
I seriously need a different playstyle. Right now it's just spamming Quen + Strong attack and dodging, because otherwise I'd die in 2 hits.
Kinda want to do everything the game has to offer in terms of combat, signs, oils, potions etc but I doubt it's going to be very effective just to take couple points from every single tree (not to mention the limits)
Would you play an open-world MMO with factions based around the witcher schools? Or based around the regional armies or lodges.
>>343203307
Mass Effect/Dragon Age:Origins
Witches is fucking hipster tier
Every person complaining about combat is exaggerating for those wondering.
The combat is like a dumbed down version of dark souls. The Witcher 3s combat is at least better shitty elder scrolls.
The biggest issue with Witchers combat isn't the controls or the animations like people like to harp on about. Those are fine and you get used to them pretty quickly.
What really hurts it is the EXTREME lack in variety, both enemy and weapons wise
Whatever you do, you will play through the game as a swordsman. Its up to you if you want your swordsman to cast slightly more powerful spells or chug potions all day with ease - but at the end of the day you're going to be mashing light and heavy attacks for the better portion of a 100+ hour game.
The enemy variety is abyssmal too, since it seems like a lot of the monster type enemies recycle moves and even if they don't, their movesets are incredibly similar, and extremely boring at that.
Generic swipes, claws, bites and gap closer charges are common, and then you have the humanoids who all seem to share the exact same moves too. Why does Djikstra use the exact same moves that a Red Rider of the Wild Hunt does earlier in the game? Why does the Iron Maiden use that annoying as fuck infinite-charge sword move that common bandits use?
Its just boring, thats all.
The combat is fine for the first hour or so when you're unlocking new stuff and leveling up, but thats literally it. The absence of variety hurts the gameplay a fuckload, and that isn't limited to just combat, quest design is repetitive and downright horrible in a lot of places.
Its still a fun game and the combat is serviceable at best but to say it doesn't have flaws is quite stupid - like some people here like to do.
>>343206103
get clearance, restart your build
invest in light attack, get to whirl and upgrade it. you should also grab resolve/battle trance
get the oil poisoning thing off the alchemy tree, you can also grab something for the potions if you feel like it.
invest in signs mostly, get them all fully upgraded until at least the 3rd tier. use medium armor.
worked pretty well for me.
>>343203307
I wish this scene happened after all the villa stuff. It felt weird seeing a "that's it! Fun's over!" scene then getting another hour or so of content.
>>343206251
>Would you play an open-world MMO
No
>>343206349
>>343206349
Witcher 3 has the best combat in open world RPG outsideof DD to this day. People just love to shit on popular things here. I actually felt weird after playing it, I'm so used to being dissapointed in games that playing a game that easily makes my top 5 fav games is bizzare.
Cyberpunk will feature guns obviously, so finally we'll be free from the mandatory dodge rolls.
>>343206103
There's a respec potion you can buy. Alchemy+Swords are probably the closest branches for true Geralt roleplaying
>>343206638
DD as in dragons dogma? If so you have good taste. Sequel when?
>Geralt of Rivia, the Butcher of Blaviken, Gwynbleidd, the White Wolf
>hoarder of immense treasures, powerful weapons and legendary armors
>dies to 2 club hits from some low life bandit using a loincloth and a leather cap
Death March makes the combat slightly better but fuck me does it annoy me sometimes. Fist fights are plain retarded too on Death March, especially inside buildings.
>>343206449
>>343206709
Initially I was going to go heavy armor tank with Ursine but apparently you get the set from Skellige so fuck that.
Thanks a bunch.
It's definitely one of the worst fanbases ever created.
>>343207058
not worse as weeb.
>>343206960
>playing death march
~YOU DO IT TO YOURSELF YOU DOOOOAND THATS WHY IT REALLY HURTS!
>>343203307
They got good source material.
>>343206095
We should use him as fuel to reach the stars then.
I got bored 2/3 the way through. Just like the other 2 witchers. Mostly because the story got dull due to pacing and the combat is simple.
Witcher 1
>spam fire ball
Witcher 2
>spam trap spell
Witcher 3
>spam fire cone
>>343206095
Until you explain why Witcher 3 is an RPG then your have nothing to stand on.
Even Mario games have decisions.
>>343207053
i rolled griffin, then wolf because it's geralt's school and switched to manticore at BaW.
>>343207153
>not playing on deathmarch
>>343207231
>>343204450
Pretty much this. Combat became mediocre about 20ish hours in. You start to recognize types of monsters and what you like in combat. After that its hours of repeated fighting the same way. Only time i was surprised was the DLC bosses. Olgeird in front of the burning mansion was an awesome fight.
>>343207589
because you make actual decisions that influence the world around you. although you play as geralt, you have a choice about how to play him. every build has different strenghts and weaknesses.
care to explain how is it not an rpg?
>>343207723
what's the point of this image they're identical but taken in different settings?
>>343206251
If it is an actual living, breathing world like SWG was? Yes.
No more theme parks or half-assed sandboxes.
>>343207913
probably he can't play himself as protagonist.
>>343204750
>shit loot/ itemization
>shit skill system
>shit combat
>shit gameplay
>shit movement
>shit ui
>shit controls
>shit boss fights
>literal only good thing is cutscenes
>rest is just boring generic filler bullshit that pads the map with useless shit
also
>that terrible heart of stone DLC
>that terrible mansion segment
>those terrible side quests
blood and wine made the entire game salvageable, if only the core gameplay wasnt rotten and the most of the game wasnt just boring filler
>>343207913
R P G
IS AN UMBRELLA
A GAME CANNOT EXCLUSIVELY BE "RPG" YOU FUCKING I D I O T
>>343207689
I would smash the PC I hate unfair difficulties.
>>343205827
>moving goalposts
just because your brain cant comprehend more than 1 slight alteration of a subject, doesnt mean its moving goalposts
>>343208183
>terrible heart of stone DLC
Shit opinion discarded
>>343208183
Im slav and I can tell you it´s like meme magic. Slavmagic just makes you like our games.
>>343203506
This.
Can't even create your own fucking character.
>>343204476
>combat isn't good because you can cheese
haha, okay son.
>>343208183
>>343204416
And that's why you don't own a company.
>>343203307
>Been a witcher fan since 2009
>Was there when everyone bitched
>Was there when everyone cheered
>Was there when everyone hyped
>Was there when everyone doubted
>Was there to say goodbye
I'll miss you Gerald.
search youtube for ray dhimitri
he exploit darksouls bloodborne witcher boss youcan exploit every game mechanic.
>>343207913
A lot of the choices are bland as fuck though
The tree spirit for example.
Freeing it saves the children (that you wouldn't see anymore anyways) and leads to the barons Death (who you wouldn't see anymore anyways)
Getting Hjalmar to the throne in Skellige doesn't erupt an actual war with Nilfgaard, its all in the background.
sure, you influence the world and the characters but it doesn't translate into meaningful gameplay almost at all. Killing Madman Lugos supposedly starts a civil war like Ermion says, but nothing fucking happens in the actual game to suggest that. Even the ending doesn't mention that and just has "cerys tending to her lands" etc etc
>>343208183
>that terrible heart of stone DLC
>that terrible mansion segment
HoS questline is fucking amazing
>>343208183
>>343208982
Oddly enough you can free the tree spirit, save the children, and still keep the Baron and his Wife alive.
You have to free the spirit before going to talk to the guy at the village like the Crones ask you too.
>>343207913
No you don't. You use two swords and igni, there are no other builds than that. The game forces you into a build. Bombs and potions are just secondary features and can not be used to complete the game.
Real RPG's let you give yourself a build.
>>343208943
The quality of a combat system isn't based on how well you can "cheese" things you fucking muppet.
Witchers combat is objectively inferior not only because of the extreme lack in variety of tools, but enemies too. Even the "boss fights" are horribly uninteresting and the only good ones in the game happen right at the end.
>>343209221
I never used igni, tho.
>>343208982
And? lets say VTMB for example, which everyone praises here, is even more quilty of this. Most of your decisions matter fuck all. Why is VTMB considered an RPG then? Or Deus Ex? Witcher 3 is an RPG, no doubt about it.
>>343203556
>no storytelling
It's there, it's just not spoofed to you
>>343203307
>mfw looking through the 2013 videos on the witcher youtube page again
WHY DID I REMIND MYSELF
>>343209237
because you play as witcher they not gonna chase multiple class in game.
and "uninterresting boss" maybe they not large enough for you or ride dragon or winged god.
>>343209480
I never said it wasn't an RPG. My post was about the choices thats all.
People like to boast the "choice-focused" gameplay of this game but barely any of them have that much of a difference.
Even sidequests like Carnal Sins changes nothing at all if you just end it at killing Nathaniel. The coroner doesn't kill Priscilla eventually or terrorizing the city to a big degree. Sure yeah you can find 1 body but thats it as I remember.
>>343204645
>meanwhile, at bioware
>>343209695
I know this feel, the overuse of sharpening was indeed pretty disgusting
>>343208183
>hearts of stone
>terrible
Fuck you.
>>343203307
>Is it safe to say this was one of the best RPG's created?
not even in the top 30
>>343209875
The sharpening was one of many things, and expected if you look at the sharpening from 2
>>343209991
Since you're so sure of this, name these other top 30 RPGs.
>>343209726
>because you play as witcher they not gonna chase multiple class in game.
Yes yes yes, it works lorewise sure, but lets not fucking pretend that it doesn't hurt the variety in the gameplay portion of this video game.
>and "uninterresting boss" maybe they not large enough for you or ride dragon or winged god.
No, the simple fact that they are bland uninteresting and repetitive does that to me just fine. They recycle normal enemies and just slap a health bar to the top of the screen instead of on top of their heads.
>>343210072
I hated how 2 had that wonky texture streaming technology where the textures would always appear shitty at first and progressively get better over a few seconds. Especially in cutscenes.
>>343203307
I honestly can't get why is this game so praised.
lets break it down
Gameplay; horrible-mediocre
Graphics; very good- excellent
Characters; generic- a few decent ones with mostly episodic roles
Story; weak- acceptable
Atmosphere; very good- goat
quest design; laughable
open world aspects; the game is worse for having them
so why, why this much blind love for this game on this board?
>>343210149
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
Breath of Fire III
Chrono Cross
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
Demon's Souls
Deus Ex
Diablo
Diablo II
Diablo III
Disgaea
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Warrior
Dragon Warrior VII
Dungeon Master
EarthBound
EVE Online
EverQuest
Fable II
Fallout
Fallout 2
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy X
Fire Emblem
Freedom Force
Front Mission 3
Golden Sun
Grandia II
Guild Wars
Icewind Dale 2
Illusion of Gaia
Jade Empire
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
Lunar: Eternal Blue
Lunar: Silver Star Story
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
Monster Hunter Tri
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2
Odin Sphere
Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star IV
Phantasy Star Online
Planescape: Torment
Pokemon Black/White
Pokemon Red/Blue
Pool of Radiance
Secret of Mana
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadowrun
Shining Force II
>>343210418
lol
>>343207487
>The story got dull
Oh, poor little anon, he only has a 1 minute attention span
>>343210149
1. witcher
2. witcher 2
3. planescape torment
4. deus ex
5. ff vi
6. ff vii
7. baldurs gate
8. baldurs gate 2
9. diablo 2
10. chrono trigger
11. fallout
12. fallout 2
13. neverwinter nights
14. gothic
15. gothic 2
16. gothic 3
17. secret of mana
18. system shock
19. kotor
20. kotor 2
21. vtmb
22. ff tactics
23. dark souls
24. dragons dogma
25. earthbound
26. icewind dale
27. morrowind
28. vagrant story
29. suikoden 2
30. dragon quest viii
>>343210367New Vegas
I honestly can't get why is this game so praised.
lets break it down
Gameplay; terrible
Graphics; terrible
Characters; mostly generic NCR npcs, few gems every now and then
Story; decent - great, legion unfinished
Atmosphere; ugly - great
quest design; bad - good, many quests where you just talk to a person a then come back to person b
open world aspects; lots of walking around where most of the time nothing happens, nothing pretty to even look at
so why, why this much blind love for this game on this board?
>>343209727
>Fallout 4 had more meaningful consequences then Witcher 3
Fuck me,man
>>343210703
>1. witcher
Stopped reading there
>>343204450
>traps
never played the game. Next?
>>343210418
>Pokemon
>>343210759
I agree, new vegas was nothing special, but this isn't a thread about NV
but what is up with this the witcher 3 praise? I guess putting more money into marketing than the actual game has payed off.
>>343210869
well I named 30 rpgs better than witcher 3
>>343210913
Yeah man, you collected them, level up, grind stants, adventure around, its a good game
>>343211069
It´s boring lazily designed, and bad.
If it´s and RPG, it´s one hell of a shitty one.
>>343210703
>>343210418
>Diablo 3
>Fable 2
>Any Fallout after 2
>Mass effect
>Gothic 3
>Better than The Witcher 3
I don't argue with contrarians.
>>343210149
Not that Anon but let me try:
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Fallout New Vegas
Baldurs Gate
Baldurs Gate 2
Icewind Dale
Icewind Dale 2
Gothic
Gothic 2
Arcanum
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2
VTM Bloodlines
Risen
Planescape:Torment
Wasteland
Wasteland 2
Underrail
Age of Decadence
Pillars of Eternity
20 good enough for you?
>>343211337
I don't know what this other retard said but all the 30 rpgs I posted are better than w3
>>343211457
You mean you think they're better.
>>343211337
not him, but it's true.
and fable 2 is the closest game that objectively represents TW3's quality. you just fell for the slav meme, nothing bad, they had more people working on shilling the game than making it.
>>343211584
well, they are
>>343210332
Texture Streaming has been really awful nowadays
>>343211624
Explain how.
>>343211601
Tell me why it's better.
>>343211425
>Risen
come the fuck on now, I like them all but not listing Gothic3 but mentioning Risen is just a silly meme that needs to stop. Gothic 3 is a better game in every aspect than Risen. Risen is on par with "Gothic 4", not even joking
>start going after the Manticore armor after fightingDettlaff
>pretty much no vampires to kill for monster ears
Fuck.
I'm just trying to bait as many autists who think their opinion is fact to respond, let's see how far it'll go.
>>343204331
BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING TEDIOUS AND UNINVENTIVE.
ENEMIES AREN'T FUN TO FIGHT, THE HITBOXES ARE THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN, AND WHENEVER YOU DIE YOU JUST THINK OF HOW GODAWFUL THAT ALL WAS.
Why the fuck is it so hard for you people to understand this?
It's incredibly shallow.
>>343211852
>Gothic 3 is a better game in every aspect than Risen
I can't think of a single one beyond the size of the map.
It's true Risen goes to shit once you get to Act 3 and hack&slash begins but before that it's exactly like Gothic 1&2 while Gothic 3 is unispired and bland the whole time.
>Risen is on par with "Gothic 4", not even joking
Well if it's not a joke then you must be simply stupid or didn't play those games.
>>343211963
Isn't that what you are doing? Saying Witcher 3 is the best RPG and every other game considered better is just shit?
>>343205276
>arrive into town
>seek out possible jobs from the town board
>have a discussion with a man offering you a job
>settle for a price
>sharpen your sword, strenghten your armor, brew some potions
>investigate the site of the possible monster
>lure it out
>kill it (thats the stab things part)
>remove its head
>bring it back to the customer
>get paid
>maybe have a small discussion about the monster
versus
>Look at cutscene with Master Chief doing things in it
>run in a straight line shooting the baddies
>collect their ammo
>press a button
>get cutscene
>>343212183
Congrats, you just relaized both of those are not RPGs.
>>343212105
No. I ain't OP, I responded to some faggot who said it wasn't even in the top 30, obvious hyperbole.
They even responded with a 30 game list.
>>343211810
it has better combat, a more responsive world, better rpg elements.
there, even fucking FABLE is better than your glorified order 1866
>>343211960
>collecting armors after fighting the final boss of the final dlc>vampire dlc
>no ekimmira hides
>>343212332
>obvious hyperbole
>he thinks 30 RPGs better than Witcher 3 is much
Your underage is showing.
>>343212296
But what is therefore an RPG?
>>343212540
And I think The Witcher 3 has better combat, a far more responsive world, not to mention better rpg elemts.
>>343209801
>The last words ever written in the ME Trilogy are fucking BUY OUR DLC
You cant make this shit up. So glad I pirated DAI and will pirate Andromeda.
>>343212580
Then name some more.
>>343212556
Didn't pay much mind to the warning prompt before the vampire invasion. I just assumed it was a halfway point or something since up to that point the main quest isn't too many hours in.
>>343212540
>BETTER BETTER BETTER BETTER
No you absolute mong. Explain WHY it is better.
>>343212619
A game where chosing specific roles is the whole focus of the game.
Witcher does not have you chose a role, it's entirely forced. I'm not saying it's a bad game because it does have choices/consequences and a good story, but its rolepelaying aspect is in fact very poor. Geralt has not only a set profession and skills, even his entire personality is already well defined.
>>343208982
There is no RPG where world decision were represented in the gameplay. And witcher games is one of few series that values player choices as much they do.
The choice you makes with regards to quests like the baron matter to the game world. Even if you don't see the outcome by looking at it because the game let's you know. When you free the spirit, you save children but at the same time the spirit takes revenge on the villagers in the area. The crones kill the barons wife, making the barons daughter hate him still and that leads to him killing himself. Leave velen under the control of his sergeant who is a much worse and ruthless individual. He even makes comments to you on how he is going to change things and how the baron was soft. Your decision that you made, makes velen a worse place to live. It doesn't translate to the gameplay of witcher because it itself is part of the gameplay. Because it's an rpg. I would even argue that the witcher is more of an rpg than games like dark souls because dark souls story plays such a passive role.
>>343212747
Did you like inquisition? I'm asking you specifically.
>>343212074
I'm saying risen is a very limited game. yeah, it's comfy as fuck sneaking into the town or moping the floor of the inq. barracks, but the game leads nowhere. G3 was an ambitious mess, and I'll take that over fanserviceving every time.
And, call me an idiot, but I thought Arcania was fucking beautiful.
>>343212752
A lot of them was listed already. I can only add Wizardry and MM series.
>>343212858
So by your logic each and every jRPG in existence isn't actually an RPG?
>>343213040
Please list them though, should be easy if they're already mentioned.
>>343212837
you can lose a fight in fable 2, that's automatically is better than TW3 where you can't die even if you don't level up.
>>343212779
yeah, i didn't heed the warning either
but who would think it's 5 back to back quests and then the final boss?
>>343212964
not him, but i thought it was decent enough for a single play then shelve, assuming you don't pay for it
tons of flaws though
>>343204645
>those people KNOW how CDPR operates and they agreed to support to their development style over fast and quick so it looks good on quarterly report.
this is false though
Witcher 3 was very close to releasing a buggy and incomplete mess. Were it not for Assasin's Creed Unity's disastrous launch, CDPR's shareholders would not have allowed for another delay on Witcher 3.
I keep seeing all these screenshots like
>>343211626
I'm at max settings and it looks nothing like that. Is there some graphical mod that I don't know about?
>>343203609
this
>>343213329
witcher 3 are playble since launch i play in 1.02 till hearth of stone arrive.
>>343206251
Witchers would have to be something special, like Jedi were in SWG
>>343213346
Are you sure you're at max settings? I don't see any mods in that picture. I don't use mods myself and my game looks like that.
>>343213052
That's a good question, are they really? If you disregard the name all they stand for is pretty much "A turn-based game made in Japan where everyone has weird hair".
The thing is the RPG genre pretty much started with cRPGs, that is video games that copy tabletop pen&paper RPGs.
Then it devolved into a lot of different things that lost the core of the genre which is roleplaying, but was similiar in other aspects so people just called them RPGs too for convenience.
You know, the European Commission has officially snails as fish in order to allow French snail farmers to receive subsidies. Are snails really fish? Or is just a convenience?
>>343206251
>MMO
no
>>343210367
still waiting for someone to dispute this fucker.
>>343213645
mine has this glittery effect everywhere. I'm at 1080p,
>>343213191
>where you can't die even if you don't level up
What? Did you ever play on Death March, did you enable enemy scaling? If you know what you're doing you rightly shouldn't die, but it's very much possible.
I don't see how this is an argument for anything.
>>343213882
>glittery
huh, no idea what you're talking about to be honest
does that effect only show up when you're facing the sun or something? Might be the "dirty lens" option in the options menu then.
>>343213032
>I'm saying risen is a very limited game. yeah, it's comfy as fuck sneaking into the town or moping the floor of the inq. barracks, but the game leads nowhere.
It's a good RPH while it lasts though.
>G3 was an ambitious mess, and I'll take that over fanserviceving every time
What exactly is "fanservice" in Risen?
>And, call me an idiot, but I thought Arcania was fucking beautiful.
Maybe enviroments but imo models were awful.
>>343212964
meh
I played around 200 hours and is complete shit, anon. I'm playing it for the 4th time now and is still shit.
>>343213967
Why would anyone enable enemy scaling? All it does is increase enemy HP, but not their damage.
>>343210418
>pokemon
literal manchild spotted
>>343214263
doesn't even play digimon world DS, truly a manchild.
>>343209602
ah I see you need to watch a 90 minute video by le vaatividya to explain the plot
and by explain the plot I mean regurgitate speculative shit posted on /vg/ because the games are devoid of any thing resembling a good narrative
>>343214126
>All it does is increase enemy HP, but not their damage
Source?
Because fighting against someone with higher HP is better than one shotting every drowner you come across later on, even if what you say is true.
>>343212959
>control of his sergeant who is a much worse and ruthless individual. He even makes comments to you on how he is going to change things and how the baron was soft. Your decision that you made, makes velen a worse place to live.
Sergeant takes over even if the Baron lives.
>>343206638
there are not many good open world RPG games so there is not really competition
>>343206960
>Geralt of Rivia, the Butcher of Blaviken, Gwynbleidd, the White Wolf
>the best swordsman in the world,killed Vilgefortz
>dies to a peasant with pitchfork
>>343214521
>Source?
huh
210 hours in the game. I tested it.
>Because fighting against someone with higher HP is better than one shotting every drowner you come across later on
Is it? I personally don't see the enjoyment of grinding through an artificially-risen HP pool when the enemy hits the same as it did 30 levels ago. There's no additional challenge added whatsoever, it just drags the fights longer for no reason.
>>343213967
I played it on death match, the game is laughably easy. and not just for me, my 65 year old dad also played it on the hardest difficulty, and it was even piss easy for him.
The hardest part of the game for him were the horse rides. He wanted to kill Roach after one race, he was waving his sword and jumping around him, but you can't kill the fucker apparently. Then he wanted to sell him the stupid beast, but he was let down you can't even do that. he spent the rest of the game just walking on foot and fast traveling.
>>343214739
>65 year old dad
post his penis
>>343206960
>>dies to 2 club hits from some low life bandit using a loincloth and a leather cap
in the books geralt dies stabbed by some random peasant with a pitchfork
witchers don't fight 10 people at the same time. They're not swordfighting gods.
>>343214078
>What exactly is "fanservice" in Risen?
well, their whole reputation/fraction shtick. The other risens have that also, but they're still shit. maybe they need to move away from that formula a bit.
>Maybe enviroments but imo models were awful.
yeah, models and conversation animations were crap, but the armors and weapon design is top tier, and the cities are some of the best ever. too bad it's mostly just an action game.
>>343212556
new game+ ?
>>343214694
It's just your word so far. I have 222 hours in the game.
>>343214739
And the other anon said it's tedious.
In conclusion you've both stated this: I think it's tedious.
>>343214637
>>343214824
i just saw people bash witcher 3 because of this very reason on reddit week ago.
>>343203307
Educate yourselves for a change
http://gdcvault.com/play/1022988/Behind-the-Scenes-of-Cinematic
>>343214739
>He wanted to kill Roach after one race, he was waving his sword and jumping around him, but you can't kill the fucker apparently. Then he wanted to sell him the stupid beast, but he was let down you can't even do that. he spent the rest of the game just walking on foot and fast traveling.
kek, the old fuck sure knows how to role-play
>>343212747
>So glad I pirated DAI and will pirate Andromeda.
Doesn't DAI use denuvo (and so will Andromeda)? How the fuck?
>>343215045
But then again i'm pretty sure at least half of the /v/ browses it
>>343215028
>well, their whole reputation/fraction shtick.
But it was well done in the first Risen, pretty much exactly the as in Gothic 2 with multiple faction-specific sidequests both before and after joining, all factions favoured different playstyles and were given their own unique armor.
Whereas it was very half assed in 2nd and not as well done in 3rd.
>>343215043
>It's just your word so far.
just go test it mate lol.
>>343215224
Project harder, lebbitor.
Only smart people go there.
>>343215387
The burden of proof lies on you my friend.
>>343203307
It's not really an RPG
but yeah it's a masterpiece, for sure.
>>343215045
But I'm not bashing Witcher 3. The hell are you on about?
>>343215475
I'm not gonna spend 10 minutes making a 10 second webm to show you something you can check for yourself in 20 seconds if you launch the game anon. Don't even know why you're so defensive.
>>343215352
it was done extremely well in the first risen, the pacing the quests, everything. but then the fucking lizard people appear and all that goes to waste. I was just expecting more. And I also had high hopes for Risen3, but it was shit. Their new game also looks bad, elex.
>>343215617
i meant to this post >>343206960
>>343215617
>All it does is increase enemy HP, but not their damage.
Prove it.
>Lol why so defensive?
Anon.
>>343215423
this post doesn't even deserve black and white fish and hook
>>343215643
>Their new game also looks bad, elex
I think most of the people who worked on G1 and G2 are gone from Piranha Bytes at this point.
>>343214496
Then don't watch vaati videos, he's not even entertaining to hear. Read the item descriptions and the world and enemy design clues and figure it on your own if you find it intriguing enough. If not just enjoy the good gameplay.
>>343204585
Without this bug, Eredin's pretty fun to fight, so are the rest of the major bosses. My only problem is that they throw way too many powered up versions of mid-boss monsters as bosses, and put all the really unique enemies towards the end of the game/DLC, minus the odd sidequest. I wish the game was paced better. Actually when you get right down to it, I really just wish Novigrad arc didn't exist, literally Witcher 1 Chapter 2 2.0.
>>343216094
The bosses are all pretty bad. The fact that they repeat the same 3-attack pattern in the exact same order for the duration of the fight completely ruins it.
>>343213346
These are my settings
>>343216094
eredin took me almost 20 minute i think. at first playthrough im not sure but it feel so fucking long.
>>343210418
>pokemon
>disgusting animu garbage trash
>FF8
>EVE ONLINE
literal manchild detected, holy fuck
you wouldn't know a good rpg if it shat in your mouth. i dont think you even know what an rpg really is.
>>343203725
>simple enemy attack patterns
>telegraphed enemy attacks
>long cool down on enemy attacks(no combos)
>low enemy variety
>godly i-frames on Geralts dodge
>unbalanced skills make every build OP after level 15
Witcher 3 is a pretty damn good game but certainly not because of its combat.
>>343210367
>Gameplay; horrible-mediocre
What makes the gameplay horrible? If Witcher 3's gameplay is horrible, then 90%+ of all games must have even worse gameplay.
>quest design; laughable
Name me one single player RPG with better quests. Especially side quests.
>Characters; generic- a few decent ones with mostly episodic roles
Olgierd, Gaunter O'dimm and Regis were fucking amazing. Of course you can't make every npc memorable and have good backstory for them, when there's 100s of them. Could be better, but could also be much worse.
>>343210418
>Fallout 3
>Diablo 3
>Dragon Quest at all
>FFX
>Icewind Dale 2 instead of the original
>Kingdom Hearts 2
>Mass Effect 2
>Pokemon
>>343210418
opinion hastily disregarded kmfao
a bunch of jap grindfests better than Witcher 3
Witcher 2 is objectively better than nearly every game on that list
>>343212049
i like the witcher 3 but goddamn you're absolutely right
really dread the combat because it's painful and fucking boring
>>343203556
But dark souls has good storytelling and witcher 3 has pretty solid combat
I don't understand why we have to choose between them
>>343218249
>Yen
>dull and shallow
Yen is probably one of the most complex characters in videogames.
>>343205276
by your basis dark souls isnt an rpg
>>343218249
>Ciri- "decides to live a vagabond life"
Because she was forced to do that. Did you even read the books? She was running from the Wild hunt in last book and decided to go to different world and live there. But then Witcher games happened and she rescued Geralt from Wild hunt and they started to chase her again.
>Is part of some prophecy and is there just as a plot excuse
Yeah except she is related to Lara Dorren, and has her elder blood in her veins, which explains Ciris magical ablities. Ciri is the only human who can teleport between worlds and that's why Wild hunt is after her. I don't know why Ciri can only stop thay prophecy, but it was already mentioned in the books million times, that Ciri is the only one that could stop it. But it never happened in books, so cpdr decided to carry out that to Witcher 3. And i'm pretty sure most Witcher fans were happy with this decision, since Ciri was the main character in books so seeing her again was nice touch.
Why the fuck did i even respond to this? was pointless text to begin with
>>343218249
Saw that post before in a witcher thread. Pretty obvious you haven't played Witcher if you really believe that one.
Triss
>huge fucking manipulator that sold ciri and Geralt to the lodge and raped Geralt.
Ciri
>biggest fucking slut in the northen kingdom and also plays as the daughterfu for Geralt
Geralt
>hates being a witcher and wants to settle down, actually has autism.
Yen
>lel
It's okay TheBull94, you succeeded in making witcher threads a shitpost heaven for every autistic child. Everywhere from the DS series to DD
>>343218547
>Yen is probably one of the most complex characters in videogames.
>>343219185
She is. It's why she wasn't included in Witcher 1 and 2. The writers were afraid of writing her because she was such a complex and important character in the lore. There were several arguments in the studio about whether they should drop the "bitch" side of her character to have an easier time, but ultimately decided against it. They had tons of trouble with Yen, from her personality to her looks.
>>343218948
you are just blasting expositions to me, it doesn't hide the actual generic writing beneath it.
>>343219089
okay fuckboy, lets see how many of those things are an actual part of the game/narrative
>huge fucking manipulator that sold ciri and Geralt to the lodge and raped Geralt.
yeah, and that plot was in the whole 3 games for like 10 minutes of the second game, then her and geralt just team up like old friends, and in the third part that whole plot is fucking dropped for the damsel in distress stereotype. Her being manipulative is played once in the whole of three games dude, get real.
>biggest fucking slut in the northen kingdom and also plays as the daughterfu for Geralt
almost never mentioned in the games, and even in the books it's just hinted that she's actually a slut, but is cursed with eternal virginity.
>hates being a witcher and wants to settle down, actually has autism.
grumpy " I DIDN'T CHOOSE THIS" generic protag No.432
>Yen
nice argument kid
>>343219806
The only "generic" thing about your crappy text is Ciri with her prophecy. But who the fuck cares when it works? Witcher 3 ending was pretty cliche but also dramatic and worked very well.
Stop overusing the word "generic" when you don't even understand what it means.
>>343216324
Olgierd and the Frog Prince were pretty fun. You're right about the bosses not having any variety in move sets, though. As soon as you learn which attack to parry when fighting Olgierd, you've won the fight, it just takes 10 minutes for the game to recognize it.
>>343205174
>all 6 of those times you fight human opponents with bows
confirmed for not having played the game
>>343219806
ofc Geralt is being fucking grumpy. He's is in this constant cycle around religious zealots,Terrorist,racist and hypocritical people.
He lives in a shitty world where rape is a common and war is a common thing.
The whole Triss thing is something you can catch onto though. Maybe you are too autistic to actually catch the clues that Triss is a huge sluts that sleeps with other witchers and have manipulated Geralt.
She even fucking admits it in her own quest.
But hey, TheBull94 you can atleast fall asleap knowing you will get those tasty (you)s
Me and my friend have been playing through blood and wine. We just finished the dlc last night.
We loved it. But we are craving more witcher.
>>343220313
>>343220153
how are the other main characters not generic dude? have you ever read anything in your life? do you really think that the witcher series is some kind of a masterpiece!? there's a reason they're unknown garbage, even in poland many people didn't know of it before the games. come the fuck on man, it's the oldest tale in the world with the most obvious characters you can make.
>>343203414
Quests were decent, its just that gamers are used to shit writing for so long that something decent comes along and its seen as goat. A lot of witcher quests are unnecessarily long because something always goes wrong, like the person you are looking for is missing/in trouble/requires a favor, ect.... The story is good, quests are decent.
>>343220497
you're again just explaining to me why the characters are bland, not desputing the fact they are.
But I'm done wasting my breath with you, if you love your shitty game so be it, you're probably too dumb to ever know better.
>>343208543
>90% of people who complain about witcher are people who cheese with quen
haha okay son
>>343204000
>I've always found dark souls and bloodborne combat to be very clunky and uninteresting.
>Witcher 3 seems like a rip-off of assassin's creed with dodging thrown in, and even if it is easy, it's fun to watch and do.
calls DKS and bloodborne combat clunky, praises Assassin's creed combat...you sir might need to get your mental condition checked, you could prolly quality for social security benefits.
>>343220589
Haven't read the books but I was under the impression that they borrow heavily from known folktales intentionally. Like Witcher 3 does.
>>343220860
But I only explained why he's grumpy on one part. Around Yen and Ciri he's extremly cheerful and jokes around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKLk5IqOyw
Even on some contracts he jokes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8u7w7kFG3Q
He's acting all spooky and scary because he wants to act professional but he's a really cool character for people that knows him outside his profession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa23SEE2dsA
Please kill yourself TheBull
>>343210418
>Guild Wars
as far as i like this game very much there were nearly no memorable characters there because it was multiplayer game as well as there is no sense comparing games that are nearly open world mmo in construction to single player game
>>343210703
>Dragons Dogma
wow only better aspect was combat maybe to a midgame (before you start spamming one best skill) rest of this game is so unfinished that it is sick
>>343221201
>but he's a really cool character for people that knows him outside his profession
TW3 is basically for closeted fags who like to dress up geralt, and give him a haircut etc., then go jerk off to how cool he is when talking to npcs.
come to think of it,those are the only things you can do in the game that are good, armor variety, useless conversations, and hot geralt.
