>overwatch is casual trash
Where did this meme come from?
-No regenerating health
-21 different characters each with 3 abilities and some with alt-fires too.
-Requires teamwork
-Competitive mode with ranking system.
-Rewarded for headshots with almost all weapons.
Is it just the art style? Really faggots?
>>343186005
bait
>>343186147
No its not.. Tell me, why is overwatch casual?
>>343186005
>Taking anything /v/ says about a game you like to heart.
where do people get your overwatch memes and arts, tho
>>343186005
people's main dig is at the shit tickrate (20hz) and ridiculously large hitboxes.
i heard competitive mode uses 60tick but I forgot to check when I was playing earlier
in its current state everything moves so fast hitboxes kinda need to be that large or you'd be basically be forced to play hitscan only.
>>343186386
This. There are too many people here, and an overwhelming amount that jump on bandwagons,look at how many play overwatch.
>>343186440
Probably reddit, 4chan stopped being an outlet for creative content a long time ago.
How to balance Overwatch
>Pharah
Slightly increase air time
Ammo count increased to 8 before reloading
>Reaper
Can cancel wraith mode early by pressing shift again
>Tracer
Max damage per round reduced from 6 to 4, drop off starts at 6 meters instead of 11
>Mei
Icicle damage reduced from 75 to 50.
Cryo-freeze no longer heals Mei and can no longer contest while frozen.
>Torbjorn
Increase ult charge time by 10%
Turret now has small delay when turning at an angle over 180 degrees
Turret range reduced from 40 to 25 meters
>D.Va
Damage drop off range extended to 10 meters.
Critbox size reduced by 50%
Current ultimate removed and replaced with temporary altfire mode that doubles DPS and enables pinpoint accuracy for its duration with no damage drop off.
>Winston
Add 100 armor.
Barrier health increased to 1500
Damage increased from 45 to 60.
>Zarya
Shields can be triggered when stunned and remove debuffs.
Shields no longer prevent debuffs if already active (Can cancel Reinhardt's stun if used after being hit, but will still be stunned if barrier is active when he ults)
>Lucio
Wallride now has a 4 second cooldown
Line of sight healing reduced to proximity healing within a 10 meter AOE
HPS increased to 20 to compensate
>Mercy
Ultimate charge time increased by 20%
>Symmetra
All Symmetra turrets now require two hits to kill from any weapon.
>Zenyatta
50HP replaced with 50 armor since robots can't be healthy
Orb of Discord now deals 5 damage per second to its target as long as it remains on them
It's not casual but it is very simplistic and many of its maps are narrow corridors with one side path and one upstairs path.
The hate stems from its popularity.
It's not really trash, but it does have a lot of casual aspects
>aimbots
>wallhacks
>auto-aim weapons (winston/sym)
>turrets
>stuns/slows (not as casual as above but still)
I don't mind it, but it can gather a lot of hate.
>>343186005
>no regenerating health
yeah because you either get 1-shot by someone pressing Q or take 1 damage per decade from someone using a peashooter, and then walk 2 steps to pick up one of the 6,000 health pickups per map.
Honestly it would actually be more skill based if there was regenerating health and not FULL HEALTH PICKUPS ALL AROUND THE FUCKING MAP.
nice bait though
>>343187190 (you)
this is utterly ludicrous. enjoy your (you)
>>343186005
Wow good job ignoring the actual casual shit.
>hitboxes are huge
>heroes are braindead easy to learn and has a very narrow playstyle
>everyone has infinite ammo
>constant positive reinforcement
>hides who plays shit, can't look at anyone else's stats in games
This game is literally made to make normies feel good about themselves.
>>343187353
>Full health pickups
Sup genjifaggot
>>343186005
>frige hitboxes
>press X to win
>moba styled fps
Haha, not casual!
>>343187353
>or take 1 damage per decade from someone using a peashooter
Who are you talking about here? Non mech D.VA And Mercy?
>>343187441
>hides who plays shit
This is the big key of making a casual game, so people can feel good about themselves
>>343186005
It reminds me of halo where everyone is slow as a snail with their base speed.
I wouldn't even call it a FPS, it's some casual hybrid game you can play with your little brother and girlfriend.
>stuns
>ultimates
>healers
>shields
>turrets
Games where you actually have to put your crosshair on someone and pull the trigger are dead.
>Requires teamwork
this is literally a hallmark of casual trash games
>>343187479
most characters, unless multiple people focus you, you can just run to a health pickup and completely negate all the damage they did chasing you through half the map, and by then they're in enemy territory so you and your butt buddies can just gank them.
It's just a match of peak-n-shoot until an ult gets a few kills then one team can move up a bit.
>>343187475
>frige hitboxes
The hitboxes are pretty accurate... At most 1-5% bigger than the in game model.
>>343187687
All the biggest competitive games require teamwork (other than starcraft)
>>343187748
Name some of these characters. I can't think of any other than non mech D.VA And Mercy
It is really casual, but casual does not always mean bad.
I don't want to play super hardcore games all the time, quake and stuff is great but if I get trashed too much then it's not too fun.
Overwatch just smooths things over, as a good player you will still do well but you are more limited by external factors other than your personal skill, like teammates, abilities, counters.
>>343187894
all tanks and supports except maybe zarya, roadhog, and reinhardt (though nobody besides roadhog would attempt a chase you)
torbjorn, junkrat, mccree, reaper, soldier, tracer
If only one (1) of them is chasing you from full health, you can most likely run away and be fine, unless you have low mobility, or they waste an ult on you.
With health regen, and no pickups you could more reliably chase a decent player and actually get a kill.
Instead, if they get a pickup, not only do you get ganked, but it was for nothing because they're right back at full instantly.
>>343188680
I meant bastion not mccree, my bad
>>343188680
>junkrat, mccree, reaper, soldier, tracer
These are all high damage, all of them besides junkrat will be able to chase another hero well.
why overwatch is casual
>fast respawns
>garbage tickrate
>fuckhuge hitboxes
>>343186005
>overwatch is casual trashIt is
>>343189000It isn'tChecked
>>343187190
These are horrible, did you even play the game?
>>343188968
infinite ammo
>>343186005
OKay OP, then please, enlighten us.
What game isn't casual trash to you?
>>343188968
>fast respawns
And then a 15s walk back into the battle, its not that fast
>fuckhuge hitboxes
Not as big as the memes
>>343189331
Overwatch. Did you read it?
>>343186005
Oh i don't know Anon, maybe the fuckhuge hitboxes and the inbuilt aimbot are a reason.
>built in aimbot and wallhack
>not casual
lmao
>>343189457
>inbuilt aimbot
As in aim assist? Controller only
If you're talking about soliders ult it only shoots the body and happens only 2-3 times in a game
>>343186005
>Take damage behind walls.
>hitboxes extend beyond character models.
pretty shitty desu senpai
>>343189331
nice reading comprehension my man
>>343186005
>game has a kill everything on screen button that's considered a core mechanic and not a crutch for bad players
>not casual
>>343189552
I'm having fun with it but I really fucking wish Casuals werent catered to so damn hard it feels a little to friendly at times.
And the price tag for $40 is ridiculous for a game lacking in so much content.
>>343189664
>How to know someone has never played ow in one post or less
>>343189664
>game has a kill everything on screen button
Who? Reaper ult? If so then you need to flank then and any good team will just stun you before you kill them.
So how do we make the game uncasualized
>>343186005
>No regenerating health
You don't even play the game you are trying to promote.
>win competitive game
>don't get +1 comp point
>lose competitive game
>lose competitive point
what the fuck is this shit?
>>343186005
dumb overshit poster
>>343189803
ults have never not been iwin buttons in every game they've been in. they only work in wc3 because heroes are just part of your army and you get more than one plus an army of other units, this is the failure of all assfaggots.
>>343189000
trips of truth
>>343189803
>I defend I win buttons
>>343186005
>Overwatch isn't casual trash!
You just posted the most basic Facebook/Twitter/Reddit Spongebob redrawn casual tier meme. Think about that for a second, OP.
>>343187894
>>343187748
Hell, even D.va and Mercy's pistols deal up to 120 damage per second, not including headshots. Nearly everyone in the cast can put out at least 100 damage per second at a minimum with few exceptions.
The weakest damage dealers in the game would be Winston's lightning gun (60 damage), Zarya's Particle cannon without any charge (90 damage), Lucio's blaster (64 damage with his four round burst or only 25 with his knockback) and Genji's shurikens (84 with three shurikens).
Lucio and Genji have low damage output with just their primary attack, however Genji performs combos with his attack > melee > Swift Strike to deal a lot more damage in an instant, and Lucio is a super evasive Support guy who can survive a lot just because he can heal himself at all times and go fast. Both of them are extremely mobile and hard to hit, so they can stick their heads out more than anyone else.
>>343188680
You have never played this game.
That entire second line of yours comprises nearly all of the HIGHEST damage dealing characters in the game.
Reaper's shotguns are second to only Bastion's Turret mode in potential damage output.
Tracer and 76 are just below that. 240 damage and 170 damage per second respectively, not including headshots.
McCree can kill anyone with 250 health in just over half a second with a flashbang and two headshots.
Torbjorn's rivet gun is among the more powerful projectile weapons in the game (70 per shot with no loss over distance) and it comes with a shotgun alt fire, capable of 150 to 300 damage if you hit dead on.
Junkrat shits out damage just by spamming everywhere. Wherever you run, he'll pump grenades down that way.
>>343187190
Have a (you), console friend
>>343189550
No, I'm talking about the game granting you hits when you clearly miss. Check it out.
>>343190154
Hey don't you fucking dare insult my memes. I will fucking end you kid.
Did somebody say memes?
>>343187327
As a S76 player I can assure you that the aimbot is not that good. It's basically just a faster reload and less damage spread.
>>343188968
>fast respawns
Yes
>Huge Hitboxes
Not really anymore than tf2.
>Tickrate
YES. I have to play ranked all the fucking time now just to avoid the 20tick.
>>343189267
There is nothing casual about infinite ammo.
Nearly all the games that most purport to be the most hardcore challenging whatever games almost universally have unlimited ammo or the ability to carry so much ammo that you'd never need to worry about it anyway, it may as well be infinite.
Finite ammo just slows things down.
>>343190856
Those games are hard because of the level design and enemies you fucking moron. They aren't Online shooters.
Bump
>>343189909
Health regen is tied to certain types of health, not a blanket for every character. Only shields regen on their own and support characters can regen their own health because it's part of their abilities. Otherwise, health regen is tied to picking up a health pack, a support healing you, or an ability.
>>343186608
20 tuck rate is a little low but not even relevant most of the time
This isn't csgo
People have to stop blaming them being bad on tick rate
Also roadhogs hook needs to have it's hotbox nerfed
>>343192094
Exactly, that's still regenerating health. Don't say "no regenerating health" if there still is albeit conditionally.
q
>>343187190
>He actually has this saved in a notepad document to paste into multiple threads despite the ideas being shit
>>343190710
exactly and no headshots
>>343187190
>mei: can no longer contest while frozen
>mercy: ultimate charge time increased by 20%
the only 2 not retarded things from your post.
and now the most retarded things...
>dva: Current ultimate removed and replaced with temporary altfire mode that doubles DPS and enables pinpoint accuracy for its duration with no damage drop off.
do you have any idea on how much damage dva deals at close range? a lot.
yeah she's underpowered atm but that ult would be literal god mode
>winston: Barrier health increased to 1500
yeah, a 13 second cd barrier 3/4 as strong as reinhardt's but with 360° protection. what could go wrong.
>lucrio : wallride now has a 4 second cooldown
yeah nerf the most fun movement skill of the game so scrubs can no longer feel bad about not mastering it and getting outplayed by better players.
you should work for blizzard, it's totally in their mindset.
>>343186005
I'm one of the most casual players there is. Play most games on the easiest difficulty, use cheats/cheatengine a lot to just enjoy the things I like and skip the stuff I dislike.
Overwatch is the first multiplayer game that is so accessible and welcoming to shit players like myself, and does its best to make you feel like you're half decent at it.
>>343186005
>you
>not retarded
this picture tells you otherwise, dear (you)
>>343187894
Mercy's pistol hits like a truck, l2headshot. You can literally 3 shot 200HP people with it.
>>343195543
No you can't.
>>343186005
Casual toddler triggered.
>>343187190
>buff the heroes I play
>nerf the heroes I don't play
>>343186005
Because there is no skill ceiling, any casual "gamer" can pick it up and be as good as anyone else, it's fuckin trash mate.
>>343199510
>no skill ceiling
What?
If the game has aim and headshots then yes there is a skill ceiling.
