>Oh, you're having fun huh?
>hook
>left click
>insta kill
>oh you're back?
>hook
>left click
>insta kill
Who though this was a good idea?
Don't worry they balanced it by making his booking inconsistent
>Hook reaper
>They get pulled behind you
>step slightly to the side
improve your proficiency
>>343176763
>hooks u behind wall
heh nothing personal oink oink
>>343176041
feels good
>left click
Click this!
*Unzips dick*
>swarm around like retarded vermin a corner instead of actually ATTACKING like you should be
>get pulled off one by one
You deserve it.
>looks just as fucked from the roadhog's perspective
why not just give him a big magnet so it's at least reasonable
>>343176041
>pick Soldier or Reaper
>vandalize him
>>343176372
>Genji uses his ult
>jumps and dashes around but I hook him
>he gets dragged to the side
>miss shotgun and die
>>343176041
The fact that he can oneshot you from full health is a bit much, yeah. Especially since there isn't much you can do about it. At least I am getting the impression that the chain puts you into a "stun" that lasts longer than Roadhog's animation. When I get chained as Mei or some other hero that would have n ability to defend themselves against it I never get it in before the Roadhog fired his gun.
>>343176041
You could you know..
Switch heroes?
Counter pick you nerd.
>>343177275
>miss shotgun
you just hold it down and the combo auto completes
he's more braindead than pre-nerf McCree or Widow
>>343176041
>playing classes that get instakilled by roadhog
>playing classes that get instakilled by roadhog AND being in range of roadhog when his hook is up
if you get instaded by a roadhook, he's a better player than you are. period.
t. zarya main :^)
>>343176041
Have you tried stepping to the side?
>>343177608
Step on this!
*Unzips dick*
>>343177567
This
>>343176041
I'll admit roadhog is easy to play, but if you're playing against one and fall for anything other than a surprise hooking early in the round you're bad at the game.
Seriously. The hook is so slow. You can see it coming from a mile away.
>>343177567
doesn't he do 30 damage with his hook and a potential 225 with his shot?
that would kill even reaper immediately. though in the case of reaper it would be justified to ask why he is even getting hooked at all
>>343177608
>side step a hitscan weapon
>>343177608
what do you think is going on in this picture
>>343177246
>tfw play Reinhardt almost exclusively
>tfw hogs try to hook me or people behind my shield
Makes me laugh every time I see the hook just slap against my shield doing absolutely nothing.
>>343177852
It isn't hitscan
>>343177845
>POTENTIAL
that involves moving forward slightly and pinpointing a headshot after the pull
anybody can sidestep the shit out of that, lucio moves too fast to hit him half the time, zarya can shield that, reaper can invulnerable that
and the game is fucked up so there's only an 80% chance that the person you hooked will even end up in front of you
>>343176041
>hook
>guy is moved to some random place
>hook
>guy gets stuck on a pebble
>hook
>guy is put behind me
>stop hooking...
>>343177768
Yeah but most characters can't do anything about it even if they see it coming.
>>343177910
Reinhardt gets fucked by a decent Roadhog though.
Tracer fucks him. I can never fucking land a hook on that bitch.
>>343177964
Except it is, it decides if it hits when you press the button and it has melee properties so genji can only block it and it goes through d.va's defense matrix
>>343177980
Seriously. It's so easy to get out of hooks. Hell, as genji I sometimes let myself get hooked to reflect the shot and dash through roadhog.
>>343178023
Are you implying im anywhere near where you would encounter a decent Roadhog?
>>343178053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jSeVvgNZU&feature=youtu.be
>>343178132
it is hitscan the hitboxes in the game are just fixed up
>using default crosshair
>expecting to be accurate
good joke
>>343177314
You can definitely Iceblock through the followup shot. I survive about 70% of Roadhog hooks with Iceblock then put up a wall and freeze his ass. Work on your timing is all I can say.
>>343178053
You have it backwards. It's a delayed hitscan.
Basically if your cursor is on them when the hook really fires, they get hooked. If they move out of your crosshairs before it fires, even if you had the crosshair on them when you pressed the button, it will miss.
It is hitscan though. It's complete bullshit.
>>343177980
you literally can't do anything before he shoots you
the stun is longer than it takes for him to shoot
at least for me, and I was playing with 90 ping
>>343178275
>you literally can't do anything before he shoots you
then refer to my previous post
he's a better player than you
>>343178132
that video doesn't prove anything
try throwing the took and then doing a 360, you'll hook anyway
>>343178187
>>343178275
there's no timing, roadhog can hold down left click and it auto shoots as soon as you finish getting pulled but are still stunned
If the roadhog is stupid and doesn't know that you can sometimes mash out an ability but it doesn't work against people who know how to play
he can also heal through anything mei has
>>343176041
its like blaming widowmaker because she headshots you.
>>343178336
you're dumb, I explicitly said you literally can't do anything
your blanket statement has no meaning
>>343178186
>using any crosshair at all
For what purpose?
>>343178021
>What is sidestep
>What is map awareness
Nearly every character has a way to deal with getting hooked, and the ones that don't shouldn't be right in roadhog's face to begin with if they're played correctly.
>>343178132
The hitscan is delayed as proven by this video
>>343178354
Because the projectile doesn't change direction after starting it, that doesn't mean that it's hitscan
>>343176041
>People actually complain about Roadhog and Mei when Genji exists
>>343176041
Not as bad as Mei.
>>343178468
>sidestep a hitscan attack
>map awareness in chokepoints the game
lmao
Again, you literally can't do anything about the hook except hope he misses. There is no counter
>>343178372
>roadhog can hold down left click and it auto shoots as soon as you finish getting pulled but are still stunned
AND YOU CAN HOLD DOWN SHIFT AND IT AUTO USES YOUR INVINCIBILITY SKILL BEFORE HIS GUN CAN HIT YOU
>>343178427
have you played as roadhog for more than half an hour
it's not enough to LMAO I DID THE COMBO
it takes proper execution to kill you before you have time to react
it's like a stunlock combo in a fighting game
yeah it's bullshit, but it takes execution skill and honing the technique to perform successfully
fucking get good, you shitter scrublord faggotron and stop whining about the biggest ult-battery champion in the game
roadhog has a million tradeoffs that balance his stupid fucking combo
get over it
>>343178519
I don't see how
He hooks before the enemy is in the crosshair, hook has travel time because it's a non-hitscan projectile, hits him when they meet
He hooks while the enemy is in the middle of the crosshair, enemy walks out and doesn't get hooked because travel time
>>343178597
You can block the hook with Reinhardt's shield.
>>343178604
>AND YOU CAN HOLD DOWN SHIFT AND IT AUTO USES YOUR INVINCIBILITY SKILL BEFORE HIS GUN CAN HIT YOU
no you can't, this'll happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_9uxcS3LuA&feature=youtu.be
>>343178604
>AND YOU CAN HOLD DOWN SHIFT AND IT AUTO USES YOUR INVINCIBILITY SKILL BEFORE HIS GUN CAN HIT YOU
No it doesn't
The roadhog waited to shoot
>>343176041
>left click
>not R2 or right trigger
>>343178662
prove it
faggot
>>343178635
>just sit behind rein's shield all game
lmao okay shitter
>>343178682
including right trigger makes you automatically wrong
>>343178354
What does doing a 360 after the hook is thrown prove? The thing isn't hitscan. It's a projectile with a generous hitbox. Think of it like a discord orb, except instead of taking extra damage, you get pulled toward Roadhog.
>>343178731
Or you could just play Rein and actually be usefull instead of getting hooked and murdered by hog repeatedly.
I just wish that some abilities could counteract his hook.
Like Pharah's jumpjets or D.Va's jets.
>>343178785
I like when people pick rein because i can just rain grenades on them and farm damage gold medal and there's nothing they can do about it
>>343178792
i think the hook working as anti-pharah tech is ok because she really shouldn't be getting hooked ever
>>343178760
My point is that it's silly to play an arcade shooter on a PC. People play a casual game on a platform that's best for competitive play, and then complain when it's not competitive.
>>343176372
>by making his booking inconsistent
How would you book Roadhog? Monster heel?
>>343178629
You can't showcase this on training bots, who not only have fucked up hitboxes they also move half as fast as a player
you would need to do it on for example Tracer with her blink or Pharah with jetpack, all the through the wall pulls are due to it being hitscan
>>343178770
it's not a projectiles
He feeds ults to the enemy
hes legit shit on most maps, especially attack.
>>343178940
he also feeds mercy ult as she can just heal him infinitely which more than makes up for it
>>343178902
>My point is that it's silly to play an arcade shooter on a PC.
Kill yourself retard. Playing any shooter with a controller is uncomfortable and not fun
>>343178902
>Playing a shooter of any type with a controller
>>343176041
>hook
>they get pulled through me
>they don't die
>hook
>they get pulled to the side
>get pushed away
>hook
>they get stuck behind a wall
>nothing happens
The hook is extremely glitchy and typically that fact doesn't help the Roadhog.
>Roadhog is allowed to kill everybody in cqc
>McCree isn't
>>343178940
Goes both ways. A smart roadhog won't heal himself too often so mercy of lucio can build ult.
Rare to find someone like that though
>>343178902
>had to nerf torbjorn on console only because you can't aim on a controller
>>343179068
Not really, literally anyone "feeds" mercy an ult, she builds ult extremely fast.
>>343179076
>>343179094
>>343179152
It's harder to aim with a controller, so it obviously takes more skill to play on consoles.
>>343179217
yeah healing a tank that doesn't die but also takes damage constantly is totally the same as healing genji for 45 hp every 30 seconds
>>343179291
>Trying to bait with a post with the literal opposite meaning of the post they all replied to.
>>343179291
>i think skill ceiling and skill floor are the same thing
epic trole
I'M READ TO GO WHOLE HOG
>Proceeds to win KoTH by himself by just pushing everyone off the cliff or against the wall for 9000000 damage
>>343177520
For how much I hear the counter pick meme, why are there some many heroes without a real counter.
>>343179317
It makes no difference, genji isn't the only fag on the team and neither is roadhog, the fact you sat on hog for a minute to get your ult doesn't detract the fact you could have just as easily healed any other two people for a combined minute for the same ult, it doesn't make up for his short comings in the slightest.
>>343179375
If the skill ceiling is low enough, it can become the skill floor, which is the case with Overwatch
>>343179428
Such as?
>>343179452
>>It makes no difference
I'm always amazed when people are this bad at the game. Might as well be crying about bastion
>>343179479
Genji, for starters.
>>343179538
Winston is the perfect Genji counter though. Genji cannout outdamage him or reflect his lightning, and he can keep up with his ninja shit by jumping if he tries to get away.
>>343179479
>Zarya
>Reaper
>Tracer
>Lucio
>Genji
For how effortless some other of the counter picks are (see bastion vs widow), I'm honestly surprised these characters are the way they are.
>>343179428
the person you responded to was sarcastic
their whole design with "just switch hero hurr" is terrible, rewards retards with guaranteed kills that they never should've gotten and just forces everyone to switch hero every single death leading to an unfun cycle of hero switching
ideally, skill is the only thing that would matter in every 1v1 situation, but Blizzard wanted that LoL crowd so they had to shit it up
>>343179524
Nice meme post with no argument. Guess this is another internet argument won for me.
>>343179538
genji is easily the most easily countered
Mei, Winston, Symmetra and Winston don't even let him play except having to spam his shitty projectile from long range
>>343177557
Holding it down ensures you will shoot before your victim can react, but it does not ensure you will actually shoot your victim. You still need to aim, especially when the hook fucks up like it does 1/3 of the time.
>>343179538
Genji sucks in most situations anyway
>>343179604
>Genji cannout outdamage him
Is this a joke?
>>343179690
>. You still need to aim
no you don't, it's a shotgun and places them in front of you
>>343177557
It's buggy as hell though.
I have 0 seconds on Roadhog and even I know that his hook often places an enemy next to him or behind him or even on top of him.
>>343178856
>she really shouldn't be getting hooked ever
Pharah is too slow and floaty in the air, and her boost jump will still leave her within Hog's 21m long hook range. Most areas in most maps don't give Pharah the luxury of attacking a Hog in a location ideal to him from further away than that.
>>343179124
McCree is still more consistent at killing 3/4 of the cast with a Flashbang and two easily placed headshots.
I've had countless times where even the squishiest 150HP characters don't die to the hookshot combo. The spread of his junkgun is wide enough and they're still far enough away that the full blast can have a bunch of misses.
>>343179638
So basically maining one hero is actually better in the end.
Who would have guessed.
>>343179705
Is this post a joke?
>>343179604
>>343179652
>>343179691
Gotcha.
Overwatch fags are the new moba-cancer.
We have a board for this this and it's called >>>/vg/
>>343179731
>and places them in front of you
Except when it doesn't, which is exactly what >>343177275 was talking about.
>>343179802
>people still "pretend" to be retarded in the current year
>>343176041
It's a game made for casuals son, expect easy gib shit.
>>343176041
The same people who liked playing Pudge.
>>343178571
A good genji will mutilate you and your future generations.
A bad Genji will see more kill cams from your team than actual play time.
How do you counter a Zarya that knows how to play
>>343180143
pudge requires you to snowball early
>>343179886
we should ban all Overwatch discussion and images from /v/ tBh
>>343178571
Genji at least gives you the option to fight back.
McCree and Roadhog literally put you in a state where you can do nothing and then jizz on your face with one button press that kills you.
>>343178604
Depends highly on distance the hook travels. The stun has a set duration. Longer hooks mean the stun wears off before they're pulled close. Mid/short ranged hooks mean the person has no chance at all.
>>343176041
So according to /v/ every single character is OP and needs to be nerfed?
>>343180176
the distinction you're trying to paint doesn't exist
genji isn't hard to play in the slightest and neither is any other character in this game
>>343180197
You don't
Zarya has no counter, the only character that can kind of deal with her sorta are reaper (if she's ever not standing near a teammate) or widowmaker
You can either wait her shield out (she'll get some charge anyway) and probably die while waiting or get your entire team to focus her.
There's no way to shut her out
>>343180331
Ok.
>>343180305
A lot of the bitching /v/ does is unjustified. Roadhog is kinda one of the few chars who probably should be balanced a bit more, simply because he works very similarly to another char who got nerfed.
>>343180296
Stun 2 kill characters really aren't fun to fight are they.
>>343180197
You kill her.
Reaper works well.
She can't hit you reliable with her beam when you hug her and you can kill her in <3 seconds if your aim is decent.
Don't attack her shield and use wraith form if you have to, to wait it out. Wraith form also works against her ult.
Other than Reaper, Widow and Pharah are also decent counters vs her for obvious reasons.
>>343179428
Because it's a bunch of bullshit.
Counterpicking is mostly bunk, there are some scenarios where X character is better than Y character based on the map and enemy team compositions, but most of the time you can run with whatever.
>>343179778
Generally any player should be getting good at one or two characters in EACH role.
You need some flexibility because some maps/modes favor certain characters over others.
>>343180413
it's just his hook combo that's bullshit, he already has an amazing self heal, the highest health in the game and top tier damage
nerfing mccree's combo and keeping roadhog's makes no sense
>>343180413
Except Roadhog is a much bigger target, has even less retreat options as McCree has, feeds the enemy team with ults if played badly and has much less burst than pre nerf Cree.
>>343180368
Bastion kills her just fine.
Reaper and Phara do too, provided your team doesn't charge her up like retards.
>>343180254
We should only allow e-celeb and twitter screenshot threads and waifu faggotry of cause, fuck all gameplay discussions.
>>343180368
Roadhog, McCree, Bastion, either Sniper, even Tracer and Reinhardt to a degree can counter Zarya pretty easily.
Roadhog, McCree, and Reinhardt all have some form of stuns they can use to prevent her from bubbling and reposition her.
Bastion basically can just tear through her shield ridiculously fast.
Tracer can be hard as hell to hit if they're decent. Come to think of it, Pharah is another good counter for similar reasons.
>>343180368
t.torbjörn player.
Zarya is pretty easy to deal with she is decent at everything but excels at nothing. She is only really dangerous because of her synergy with Pharah or Reaper.
>>343176041
>Roadhog hooks my mercy
>Projected Barrier her
>50 free charge
>Mercy guardian angels back to my team
Thanks Roadhog.
>>343178053
It's a projectile that you control during its travel time.
>>343180648
but anon, OW threads are almost nothing but waifu faggotry
>>343178604
>yeah it's bullshit, but it takes execution skill and honing the technique to perform successfully
Are you baiting? The stun is longer than the animation, claiming that takes skill is like claiming McCree's flashbang & fth takes skill.
>>343180830
>playing a match as zarya vs reinhardt
>he keeps tackling my allies
>shield them before they hit the wall
>>343180543
>>343180615
Even as a bigger target and ult fodder, he is kinda too good right now. His hook has ridiculous range, and coupled with his damage, he can remove someone from the fight every time his hook is off cooldown.
His retreat matters less as well, since barring concentrated fire, Hanzo or Bastion, he can pretty much out heal any damage he takes even while healing.
He basically does the same thing McCree used to, which was constantly destroy people 1v1 with little effort and no chance to avoid it. Only he has even more survivability and range to do it with.
>>343180197
Burst damage through her bubble. Leaving her alone when she has her bubble up:
>Let's her deal a few seconds worth of damage
>Let's her escape
>Let's her regain health from her shields
Sustained burst fire is key here. She has the lowest health pool of all tanks with no mobility options. Focus her down and she disappears in seconds.
>>343180873
touché
But this one isn't for a change.
>>343181035
>Focus fire
>Requires 2v1 hero
That explains why she's been completely shitting on matchmaking.
>>343181035
I think most people don't realize that Zarya's bubble is not just a 2 sec invulnerability thing. It can be popped early and good lord does it suck when it is.
>>343181120
Focused fire can be from one person. A S76 can melt most of her bubble with a helix then finish her off with his primary fire. A reaper can destroy the bubble in two shotgun shots, and finish her off after that. That's just two heroes.
>Junkrat
>Piggy grabs me
>Throw mine just before impact
>We get both blasted back
>Whole hogs me instead
Why so persistent?
>not being aware of road hog and his cool down timer at all times
>not having high as fuck framerate so you can juke when you see the first two frames of the hook animation
It's exceptionally satisfying with d.va
>>343179731
You obviously never played roadhog
i have 20 hours on him and he 1 out of 4 hooks he pulls someone to the side of him or behind him or even ontop of him
>>343181345
>>not having high as fuck framerate so you can juke when you see the first two frames of the hook animation
That doesn't really matter because the way the netcode works. It always prioritizes the shooter, so unless the movements have been sent over to his client it will register as a hit even if you dodged it. Abilities that block damage is the only effective override and even they have a tendency to register too slowly.
>>343176763
Would work if not for 20 tickrate.
>>343181229
No it cant?
Thats just regular fire.
>>343181345
whats the point, at 20 tick rate it's pretty much a gamble anyways if you get hit or not.
>>343181903
Bad phrasing on my part then.
>mfw shithog ults and I'm playing genji
at least he isn't hanzo
>>343181345
It's not like having more than 60 fps is actually helpful when it comes to predicting an ability.
I'm sure that being able to recognize that hook less than 1/60th of a second earlier than me is going to help you dodge it.
>>343179076
>Contoller more uncomfortable than kb+m
One of the two was designed for games. You may not like using it, but that doesn't mean it's less comfy
>>343176041
The fact you dont know his combo requires a melee attack shows you have downs.
>>343178916
Beat me to the joke
>Play junkrat
>spend whole games jumping around with his mine and harrasing every with near perfect arching shots.
> Most games end with 3 golds.
Its good to be a junkrat
DUDE LMAO TURRET MODE KILL EVERYTHING JUST CAMP LMAO HEAL SELF PUT YOUR BACK WHICH IS WEAKNESS AGAINST THE WALL LMAO
>>343182503
Depends on the type of game. Controller might fit well in your hand, but you sacrifice a lot to use one in certain games. FPS games especially.
>>343183128
>the face
Why? Bastion's expressionlessness is half of his charm.
>>343178261
This seems wrong, Roadhog is my boy and I have seen plenty of people side step my hooks after they've been launched
>>343182898
If most of your games give you gold then you aren't playing with me scrub
>>343176041
I play Mei, the only hero that makes me want to kill myself is junkrat
>>343183359
why?
>>343183517
His damage output is absolutely bonkers and he beats Mei at every single range or encounter
>you will never fuck a cosplayer dressed as Roadhog
Why even live?
>See Junkrat
>Shoot him
>His healthbar barely moves
>Turns
>Die
G'DAY MATES OO'S UP FER A LIL FUN EH?
Fuck Junkrat
>>343179615
>Zarya
Reaper
>Reaper
McCree, Mei
>Tracer
Mei
>Lucio
Anyone who can aim and do damage literally at all
>Genji
Winston, Mei, Roadhog
>>343183932
>Anyone who can aim and do damage literally at all
>>343183932
I don't think mei counters tracer unless you somehow get the jump on her when she is out of blinks.
>>343183243
If you track them properly you shouldn't be able to miss.
Basically don't try and predict where they will be and instead try and follow them with the cursor.
>>343184108
>this webm is funny to some people
He's just strafing.
>>343184108
>plenty of time to shoot him that the Widow misses
>Lucio is fucking around away from his team and therefore useless
>takes him 30 seconds to kill one Widow
>he still dies at the end.
>>343180368
>>343180197
Zarya is overrated. Most characters can kill her quite easily, several of whom can pop her bubble and not give a fuck about her Energy system.
Unless Zarya is at 100 Energy, her damage output pales in comparison to almost everyone else. Her likely average Energy is going to be 0-50 and that only puts her on par with the midrange damage dealers (and that's only if she keeps her laser on target 100% of the time).
For example, if you're someone like Reaper, you can deliberately destroy her Barrier and just keep shooting while jumping around like a maniac. He'll vaporize her 400 HP + 200HP barrier in a few seconds and she'll likely have barely nicked him.
Another example, 76's damage output (170/sec, not including headshots) with his rifle is already near the high end of what Zarya can do at max energy (190/sec at 100 Energy, 170/sec at 90 Energy, can not deal headshots). His self-heal also makes him just as Tanky as Zarya and his Helix deals three times to 1.5x more damage than Zarya's particle grenade. On top of that, 76's maximum damage range (30m before going below 17 damage per shot) is twice the distance than what Zarya's laser can even reach (15m).
I could specify how almost every character outclasses Zarya, but I'd run way past 2000 characters. Anyone with a ranged weapon will destroy Zarya who has no mobility options to close the gap. Anyone with powerful point blank damage like Tracer and Reaper will chew Zarya apart faster than any other Tank. Zarya teaming up with someone else to Barrier them isn't as efficient as playing any other character and teaming up with them instead.
A "good Zarya" would be better as any other Tank. Also her Ultimate is shit. Most characters have an Ability that lets them escape, survive or outright ignore her Graviton and any attacks that would come while they're stuck for a mere four seconds. No Skills are disabled in the Surge like you'd get with a character that actually stuns or traps. 2000
>>343184507
Sometimes you just get pissed and have to take care of the sniper yourself.
>>343178916
idk, sometimes he doesnt show up at shows he's booked for
>>343184528
Sure but you don't spend 30 seconds away from your team doing it, either you try to sneak up on them or try to push them off their perch where your team can see and deal with them. Spending that much time away from your team makes you garbage as Lucio, unless you're contesting in overtime.
>>343178916
Imagine Brock Lesnar, but if Dean Ambrose was a heel and his best friend.
>>343184520
You do realize that if the counter to Zarya is kiting, then she has done her job? She is a tank, she is supposed to force the other team back so your squad can secure objectives.
>>343184108
He could have killed him many times in that clip, he just watched laughed.
ITT OP trivialises a character by describing their playstyle in the most simplistic manner possible
>HURR DURR ME GENJI
>ME HIT WITH SWORD
>HAHA U DED
WHO THINK THIS GOOD?
