Im glad that we could finally agree on something
>quake requires skill
LOL
>>343172856
This. Overwatch should replace it as the meta game offers more depth.
>>343172690
Where is melee???? It's the hardest game of all.
>every fun game that requires some skill is dead or has really small player base
sad
Is world of tanks really that simple?
What makes SC2 require half as much skill as SC1?
>blazblue
>>343172690
>Quake
>Anywhere close to the skill and player base of CS:GO
Quake live has maybe 100 players.
>>343173419
What are you even implying with this post. You don't think it requires that much skill? You think it requires more skill? You think its more popular? You think its less popular?
Real quality post.
>>343173440
kys
>>343173440
Number of players is bullshit. I give you that. But Quake requires are shit ton more skill than GO. UT2004 requires more skill than GO. 1.6 was fine. They fucked up so bad. God, I fucking hate them for making it the toned down shit game it is.
>>343173557
No. Blazblue does not require much skill at all.
Game is braindead
>>343173691
>implying arena shooter require any skill.
Nigger that genre is like 95% reflexes.
>>343173691
>Implying awp through smoke/flashbang isn't more skillful than spamping rockets.
>>343173721
Not OP, but I'd say it requires a lot more skill than SF4. I'm more of a GG fan personally, but I think that BB is deep enough.
>>343173721
Go back to matchfixing guilty gear, marn.
>>343173440
You are either baiting or just an usual underage
summer pls go
>tfw these threads always turn into a csgo bullshit general
>>343173937
All you quakefags like to sit around and pretend that your old dead game is the deepest thing ever, but in the end its just a test of who has the best mouse control. face it - your game aint that deep.
>>343172690
>WCIII
>more skill than SCII but less skill than SC
>Q3
>Most skill
>CS 1.6
>more skill than CSGO
yeah we sure can, op, as long as that thing we can agree on is that you and pretty much all of /v/ use the completely inscrutable metric of "skill" as a synonym for "how much I like this" knowing full well that it's all but impossible to quantify the absurdly disparate skillsets each of these games require
>>343172690
>sc2
>skill
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>343173768
It is. So what? Reflexes aren't skill? Aiming isn't skill then either? I played ESL back in the 1.6 days. That required skill, sure. None of that skill is needed for GO. If anything GO is to 1.6 what Unreal Tournament is to Quake. It's toned down for mainstream, kids and russians. It's for people telling themselves they don't play COD because it's AAA shit. But GO is nothing more or less.
>>343173773
Don't tell me that Quake is easy to master on a high level because it isn't and it's not just spamming rockets.
>>343172690
>fight games above dota
lmao
>>343174437
Games that require tactics, strategy and outsmarting your opponent will always be more highskill than games that are just mindless reaction time tests.
>>343174501
this
you can get decently good at BB after 2000 hours or so
you would be lucky to reach 3k after 2000 hours in dota 2
>>343174501
Given that DotA is just a fighting game dumbed down to the lowest possible level plus an RTS dumbed down to the lowest possible level, yeah, I'd say that that's about accurate.
>>343172690
BW was not as much of a global success as compared to sc2 at its highest peak though
>>343174676
>Given that DotA is just a fighting game dumbed down to the lowest possible
Thats the dumbest shit i ever read on /v/ and that says a lot.
Whats next?
Is it a dumbed down FPS too?
>>343173349
I doesn't have a broken interface where you can only select 12 units at a time so it's casual
>>343174614
Yep. This is why I vote for Overwatch as it is a game of wits and strategy. Twitch shooters are as impressive as shootemups. (Not really that impressive.)
>>343174740
The footsies, the frame knowledge, the mindgames, the matchups. Its all there. Just a million times more simplistic in MOBAs.
>>343174903
>The footsies, the frame knowledge, the mindgames, the matchups.
You mean like in about every other pvp online game ever
>>343174135
I dont even play quake anymore, but if you think that csgo requires more skill, you are a retard. There is absolutely nothing in that trash game that requires skill
>>343174960
Yeah man, hearthstone really requires so much frame knowledge and footsies.
>>343174653
most of that is due to it being impossible to cooperate though. I bet you could quadruple your overall winning if you only stacked with friends/got a good team structure going
>>343174994
Then how come you aren't global elite playing for a top team earning hundreds of thousands?
>rating Hearthstone on how difficult the RTS mechanics are
have you ever herped so hard that you derped?
>>343175049
Congratz on being obstuse
Any game where you control a charachter in a 3d or 2d environment against some kind of enemy with equal capabilities will have those aspects you mentioned, it's not something fightan games invented
Fucking World of Warcraft PVP has that shit
>>343175131
Because I dont want to invest anymore time in a stupid game that takes a step back with every update. Also, my mental state wouldnt let me do that
>>343175164
And just like MOBAs, WoW pvp is shallow as fuck but hyped up by people who play it as the height of strategic depth.
SC2 LotV is way closer to BW.
t. Starcraftfag who's been playing the series for over a decade.
>>343172690
>quake takes skill
>LoL and DOTA2 taking that much skill
>any fighting game taking skill at all
I've played all of those games and can confirm this image is garbage
Here
>>343172690
>blazblue more difficult than sf4
You could have picked GG for the same level of bait and actually been correct too.
>>343174676
>lowest possible level
It has the highest prize pool of any E-sport games thus it has the highest skill level because more people are competing for millions not 600 dollar like your fight game shit.
>>343175456
>I'm bad at fighting games so they must require no skill
Uh huh, you keep telling yourself that, kiddo.
>>343175456
Where is Melee and Overwatch ? They should be at least higher and more difficult than. Cs go
>>343175578
How does that logic even work?
If I was bad at fighting games then wouldn't I think they take skill?
>World of Tanks takes no skills
Lol retard.
>>343175560
But not the highest skill ceiling.
>>343175630
No, you'd just protect your ego by telling yourself something dumb like "all this requires is memorizing a 40 button combo. If I did that, I would be good too".
>>343175672
All you do is drive a slow tank and shoot. Get real.
>>343175681
Yes. Prize pool determines the skill ceiling in E-sport games.
Here's the none edited version
>>343175587
y'all need to realize that team based games are inherently more complicated than non-team based games
>>343175802
Great thanks!
Glad we can agree
>>343175787
>street fighter taking any skill at all
fuck off retard
>>343175732
you don't have to memorize anything besides the controlls
>>343173440
>Game popularity (At its highest peak)
>>343175863
Quake takes way less skill than SC2
>>343172690
Wait isn't World of Tanks massively popular? Like several times more people than League or any other game for that matter?
>>343172690
Where would War Thunder be? The same place as World of Tanks?
>>343175929
This. It's so easy. SC2 is so mind boggling strategy wise that Quake is child's play. Fuck off quake tards.
>>343172690
>CS 1.6 requires more skill than CS:GO
Knowing what pixels are missing on walls so you can shoot through them doesn't mean skill.
>>343175953
haha no. At it´s peak it could have like 100k players playing at once not even that
>>343175987
Warthunder doesn´t have even 10k players and had like 35k at it´s peak.
>>343172690
fixed it
>>343176085
>>343176238
What?
>>343176032
That's Warcraft 3 you mongoloid, not WORLD OF Warcraft
>>343176032
wow is not on that list retad, it's warcraft 3. and even then wow pvp is much more complicated that what you've posted.
>>343176249
>inb4 spray control requires skill
>>343176317
>so misguided
>>343176317
you're trying too hard Anon
>>343176317
Where is Overwatch ? Should be clustered with the other popular mobas.
>>343175456
>RTS.
>Following a build order and completely non-reactionary gameplay.
>Actions have practically zero commitment.
>Requiring skill.
Your placement is practically backwards. I've played all the games, can confirm.
>>343175480
Street Fighter is a more competitive game, for certain.
But GG is much more difficult than SF4/5 in terms of design. Come back when SF has a 2f, 3-button parry mechanic with no hit-stop.
Also, all Street Fighter chars are a joke compared to shit like Eddy, Venom, etc.
>>343176695
>>RTS.
>>Following a build order and completely non-reactionary gameplay.
>>Actions have practically zero commitment.
>>Requiring skill.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
>>343175314
Sure kiddo
>>343176895
It's piss easy nigga'. Certified diamond
>>343176895
don't bother discussing RTS and fighting games on /v/
>people unironically fall for this bait
ive seen so many variations of this image its hilarious people still fall for it, thanks for the laughs op
>>343172934
but Overwatch is already on the chart anon it's in the far left corner
>>343175787
Accurate
do you retards even play dota
>>343175787
Perfect
>>343177013
Diamond is a fucking joke, bro.
I'm rank 539 on the Korean server right now (having played my last game just a few minutes ago) and in the grand scheme of things I suck ass at Starcraft. Stop thinking that you know shit about the game with your shitter rank.
>>343175802
>Melee harder than real fighting games
>Overwatch hard
holy fuck you are a faggot
>>343177338
lol btfo
>>343175787
Spot on
OVERWATCH HARD
That game is casual as fuck
>>343175802
>Overwatch
>Skill
Anon come on, it may be a shooter but it is NOT a competitive games, it's just a fun game.
>>343175337
>over a decade
So an SCII babby who maybe caught the last 2 or 3 years of BW?
>>343175578
randy here.
The mechanics of fighting games take some getting used too, but once you know the combos and positioning it's really just who can our predict who.
Games like SC2, there are so many mechanics to master it becomes less of an predictability game, and the more mechanically honed are going to win.
>>343177442
Melee is only harder because you can't just button mash
And Overwatch isn't hard but it does take at the very least some form of skill
>>343177689
the anon I replied to asked for it so if you don't want it on there feel free to take it off
>>343175787
Very accurate
>>343172990
lmao
>>343175802
>overwatch
>hard
Have you even played the game
>>343175787
>Leauge of legends more skill then dota 2
kill yourself LoL fag
>>343177707
>Games like SC2, there are so many mechanics to master it becomes less of an predictability game, and the more mechanically honed are going to win.
That's only true if you play at a shitter level
>>343177235
>>343177323
>>343177595
SPOT THE SAMEFAG
>>343175787
Perfect
>>343175787
This one is actually the most correct one, except that dota and LoL need to be switched.
Also SC2 and broodwar need to be switched and broodwar needs to be further right.
Everything else is actually true.
>all these kids on this board don't know how Quake was in its best days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58
Someone please show me a game requiring more skill than this.
>>343177689
this, I personally know 2 Overwatch "pros" who tried to go pro in CS for a year+ and didnt even beat tier 3 teams.
>>343175787
Accurate
>>343177860
>twitch reaction rocket spam
>skill
ayyyyyyyyyy
>>343177962
>I didn't watch the video and know nothing about Quake
ayyyyyyyyyy
got me to reply tho
ITT: The game I play is harder than the game you play.
>>343177860
Is this suppose to be impressive?
>>343176119
>doesn´t have even 10k players and had like 35k at it´s peak.
Sounds like a dying game to me.
>>343173189
The game requires minimal mechanical skill, but you still need quite a bit of knowledge
>It's a 'Games I dislike go tot he bottom of the chart' thread again
>>343175456
>I've never played a MOBA in my life: the post
>>343178009
>autistically memorizing the spawn times for the items and then hopping around dodging each other
>skill
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>343176317
ITT: People getting offended their favorite game is not on the far right.
This is accurate.
Altho starcraft and other RTS should be above Dota 2 tbqh with you.
the rest is eh.
All these faggots that pretend Dota doesnt require skill , you are thinking of LoL/HotSAlthough the game is become more and more casual with each patch they release , the game will end up ruined soon.
>>343178241
I played league for years and have 500 hours in DOTA2
>BW was more popular than SC2 at the peak
Lmao, no. Not even with kespa BW wasn't as big as some of the prime SC2 shit, and that's when we talk about torney shit. Official servers/iCCup had like 2-3k players at most before SC2. None of this matters though because LoL dwarfs them in comparison
ITT:
>People who don't even play all the games listed make charts
>People comparing thought heavy games with reflex heavy games and strategy/tactic heavy games
>People comparing single player games to team based games
>Nobody realizes that the phrase "needs high skill" is blunt as fuck because it's not given what the skill is needed for (To be among the top 1% of all players/ to have a nice reaction time/ to have good a adaption/ to be creative/ to be able to fully concentrate for 40 minutes straight)
As usual go fuck yourself /v/ and actually start playing the games you're talking about.
>>343178337
And yet you still never understood them.
Well not everything can have a tripple digit IQ or regular learning capacity i guess.
>>343178602
*everyone
>>343172690
Add Battleborn and HotS.
>>343178602
>NO! They're just too DEEP for you!
nope, they actually are really easy, last time I checked DOTA2 was still a game of luck and chance masquerading as competitive.
>>343178736
t.salty shitter who was stuck at 3k mmr
>>343178797
>muh MMR!
You're never going to guess my real MMR because that would mean I'm right in your mind
>>343175787
spot on
>>343177786
>dota2 more skill then League of legends
kill yourself dotoddler fag
Cebruz here, thanks for falling for my bait.
Found that pic randomly in my trash folder.
Now i will go shitpost something else
>>343178734
>Battleborn
But nobody plays that
>>343172690
>quake
>starcraft
>difficult
I was wrecking people in both games before I was even 13 years old, they aren't difficult you just live in nostalgia
>>343178862
I already did, its 3k
>>343175787
This is accurate
>>343178273
>dota2
>requires skill
