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Who did you choose /v/?

And why was it Imoen?
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>>343172568
In all honesty, Imoen. She has the best personality.

I almost always take Jaheira and Aeire as party members because of Insect Plague and cleric spell sequencers respectively, but I don't like either of them all that much. Jaheira is a bitchy whore and Aerie is a self-obsessed snowflake. Viconia is a rude cunt but she does at least have some funny banter.

Meanwhile Imoen has the best banter lines yet never comes across as arrogant.
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>>343172568
>not picking Viconia
What are you, a pussy?
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>>343172568
>Imoen rape mod
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Imoen is so fucking ugly.
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>>343172568
You can't even date Imoen. But cucking dead Khalid was also satisfying.
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>>343175176
>doesn't know about the Imoen Romance mod

Yeah, it's a thing.

>cucking dead Khalid was also satisfying
Agreed. Pretty crazy that it only takes Jaheira a couple of weeks to forget about him.
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>>343172568
I chose the Wachowski """sistser""" obviously.
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>>343175568
""""""?
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Noone

the mighty kensai/mage has no need for partymembers, especially not for sluts
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>>343172568
>Imoen
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>>343175684
>kensai/mage
What's so good about that class combo anyway? Seems like every seasoned BG player froths over it.
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>>343175669
It's a tranny.
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>>343172568
Best girl.
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>>343172792
Imoen is great, which is funny considering she was a throw away character.

They added her last minute in BG1 because they realized the only thief available in the beginning of the game was Montaren the evil halfling that forced you to take Xar and turn down Khalid and Jaheria. She turned out to have fantastic stats, being the best thief in the game and easy to dual into mage for even better times.

They planned to actually kill her off in the second game, but when they saw how popular she was they changed their mind and changed the script up a bit.
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>>343175779
That's SoD you're thinking of. Imoen is female.
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>>343172568
>mentally deficient naive child
>married woman
>Gaider-class tsundere
>annoying
Viconia of course
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him :3
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neera
shes cute and clumsy
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>>343175762
Kensai get a bonus to damage and to hit, meaning that they feel a good deal stronger than they are when you dual them over since their Thac0 is already several levels above where it should be.

Mages can't wear most armor in order to use their abilities, which is fine since Kensai can't use armor anyway. Despite this though, Kensai can use wizard robes so they actually get better after dualing over. You end up with a powerful character that can fight well while also casting spells, offensively and defensively.

Another good combo is Kensai-Thief. Thieves gain xp faster to get your Kensai levels back, and once you get Use Any Item it removes almost all downsides of being a Kensai. Them you can go and use Kai with Assassination or Backstab to do 5x your max hit every attack.
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If you ever wondered, "Why didn't Bioware let me fuck my divine half-sister?" play Demonicon.

(What's with Germans and incest?)
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>>343175730
>Imoen
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>>343175934
Well I'm glad they listened to the fans then.

>In BG2 they killed off Xzar instead
top kek
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>>343176217
These days they'd probably just kill her off for more "emotional impact".
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>>343172568
I'd sacrifice myself for the keep. I can also always pretend she's Imoen.
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>>343176454
Drew Berrymore?
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>>343176454
The absolute worst. Like Imoen, but shittier.

>Help me save my keep
>WHY ARE WE HERE AND NOT HELPING THE POOR
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>>343176031
Anomen and Keldorn have some of the banter in the game, specifically because they're Paladins with different views on life and overall experience.
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>>343176543
Anomen isn't a real paladin.
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>>343176531
She just needs a good rogering.
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>>343176454
SHE CAN'T FUCKING EVEN DISABLE THE TAPS AND UNLOCK THE LOCKS IN HER OWN FUCKING HOUSE WHAT THE HELL HOW CAN A CUNT BE SO USELESS.
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>get Aerie in my team for the first time in ages
>she's starting to whine inside the tent already
N O P E
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>>343176693
She's so god damn annoying. Cleric/Mage is an amazing combo but her whininess was brutal.
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>>343176543
Keldorn is my biggest bromance. He is my favourite NPC and i did not take him last time because he fights with Viconia.
Manly tears were shed at the epilogue.
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>>343176693
Aerie also reeks of MUH WAIFU material back when it was still MUH FAIR LADY. Shit, she's not a regular elf because that's not special enough. Throw in some tragic backstory for good measure.

>Aerie is a lawful good Avariel, a race of winged elves, but because she has lost her wings
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>>343172568
>>343176174
>Romancing Viconia
>Forget that I have Imoen romance installed
>mfw
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>You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
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>>343176880
You could use the tweak pack to make it so NPCs don't try to kill yourself if you want.

Technically might be cheating though and it is good to take different NPC's occasionally too.
Keldorn is hard not to bring along though since he is an Inquisitor. Carsomyr breaks everything, despite him needing dexterity gauntlets and a giant belt. All those Truesights and Dispells are nice too.
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JUST
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>>343176693

>The feel when she went into labor in the middle of a dragon fight

>>343176898

Name of doujin? Also was the romance mod ever graphic? I never really did npc mods because the first one I ever tried was Saerileth
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Remember when they allowed this stuff?
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>>343177027
Yeah, I think it's cheating because this whole "companions will never leave you" is a modern design principle made by pussies afraid players will miss content. Let them, there has to be consequences for actions and two polar opposite character would not stand each other.
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>>343176974
I barely remember using Valygar for some reason, especially because his quest was pretty fucking cool.
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>>343177237
They cut out a lot of his content, making him rather boring.
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>>343176898
Sauce? I recognize the artstyle but can't quite put my finger on a name.
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>>343177091
>Also was the romance mod ever graphic?
It's suggested that some pretty dark shit happened to her while she was in Spellhold, and it's clear that the MC and her had sex (assuming the player made the right choices).

It's nowhere near flawless, but in terms of writing quality it's much better than 90% of the mods out there.

>I never really did npc mods because the first one I ever tried was Saerileth
Possibly the worst NPC mod I've ever seen, and it's hilarious to think of all the effort that went into it considering how awful the writing in it is.
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>>343177237
I had valygar in my last run. He is very likeable as a 3rd support fighter. He is kinda squishy sometimes but dealt a lot of damage when dual wielding swords. His backstabs are useful too. He has funny dialogues with Mazzy.
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>>343177237
>>343177383
I uh... I kinda killed him.
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>>343177112
>She draws the line at Ogres and Trolls.
Awwww yeah, finally a hot nymph that will take my orc dick.
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>>343177571
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>>343177347
Never mind, found it. It's Takei Ooki
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Did ANYONE use Haer'Dalis? You'd expect him to be a romantic interest at least, but he's not even that and Bards are not really useful considering you can get much better other companions.
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>>343177773
Nope. I only ever used Haer'Dalis once so I could steal Aerie from him.

He's more or less useless. If you want a good bard get that custom NPC one or have the MC be one.
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>>343177773
I had it my run that i finished week ago. But dumped him for Based Sarevok in ToB.
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>>343177773
He was going to be a romantic love interest for females but like Valygar was cut for time.

He's not bad actually. A blade is a bit like a thief-fighter-mage. Offensive Spin is quite handy, doing 1 extra attack, 2 extra to hit and damage and making all attacks do max damage for 4 full rounds. Have him dualwield and he can get about 4 attacks per round that way, which isn't terrible. Then he gets to benefit from things like Blurr, Mirrior Image, Stoneskin and Tensar's transformation. He also has some good natural resistances and an illegally high Short Swords skill for a Bard at 2 dots.

Since he's a Bard he gets Thief high level abilities too, including spike traps and Use Any Item. Overall, he's not actually a bad character.
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>>343177773
bards are always useless in these games because they can never replicate the social aspect of actual roleplaying at the table, and it just so happens that's where bards shine. otherwise they're just average jacks of all trades mechanically.
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>>343177773
Blade is an overpowered kit. He just need a bit of micromanagement.
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>>343177035
Worst thing about Viconia is her personal quest is all about the romance so you basically NEED to romance her to access that content.
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>>343178151
>getting this annoying bitch in your party to begin with
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>>343178197
Dat magic resistance.
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>>343178151
You mean the assasins that are sent after her?
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>>343176531
>Like Imoen, but shittier.
I didn't hate her personality but after you save Imoen there are ZERO reasons to keep her imo. Fuck, even before rescuing imoen Jan can do everything she can, and much more. Jan is just too good overall but at least I can keep Imoen for her dialogue and personality (also I guess the main char would keep her with him).
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>>343178360
This. With a few items Viconia can get 100 resistance and tank all the mages.
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>>343177773
He is actually interesting and you can make him useful unlike a couple other companions. Some of the mod kits for newer rulings make him extremely capable in battle. Also, if you are a bard, micromanaging the theater is one of the more entertaining Keep Quest series


As far as 'romance triangles' go, the one with Aerie is done decently (especially compared to anything Bioware did afterwards, except maybe kinda Jade Empire)
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>>343178445
Jan is really good. All those unique items, gnome saving throw bonuses, a good multi-class combo. He's just a really solid character.
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Is neverwinter nights welcome in this thread?
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>>343178457
She was the earliest character who could damage those fucking Adamantite Golems
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>>343172568
Why is Jaheira such a cunt? For completetely no reason. She's acting like a third wave feminist, I wish there was an option to sell her off to slavery like you could do in torment
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Jaheira.
it's not imoen because she's way overleveled when you get her back and her hair looks like shit and Jaheira is objectively better either way
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>>343178621
You can leave her in cage in Irenicus Dungeon.
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>>343178586
How do you damage those things btw? +4 weapons?

>>343178445
If you're keeping characters for their personality rather than their abilities then you're playing the game right.
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>>343178741
Yes, They must blunt weapons too.
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>>343178569
My problem with NWN is that its campaigns are pretty much forgettable. OC is bland as fuck and pretty much just a test of what they could do with the editor, even when you read the design document what it was supposed to be like originally. Expansions are better because OC lowered the bar to a point of nonexistence, but at least they feel like adventures and not checklists Bioware loves to do.
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>>343176031
Anomen might just be the best written party character in the series, only normalfags hate him
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>>343178621
To be fair, she doesn't really bring up 'male and female' issues.

She is cocksure about her opinions because she is an elf who has lived for a while and because it is a requirement for Druids (We feel the nature man, we know).
Add her Harper membership and it's just a solid package of false superiority and certainty.

Her personal quest entails you tearing down pretty much most of the things she believed.
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>>343178741
>If you're keeping characters for their personality rather than their abilities then you're playing the game right.

Is there any other way? I mean, if you really want to min-max creating a full party is your only option. Which is why I adore Icewind Dale games, but I can see how that may be off-putting to people not familiar with anything. Shit, people spend a ton of time creating their MC as is.
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>>343178815
I play the expansions now and they are solid 8/10 for me. Hordes of The Underdark is much fun when played by a paladin. Also there are hundreds of custom adventures you can download and play.
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>>343176693
Should have killed Quayle in the circus. She has different dialogues then, is more depressed and you can be even more cruel to her
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>>343178741
>>343178791
I think anything +3 can work, not just blunt(I pretty much sent my buffed Paladin with Carsomyr last playthrough).

Also, old versions allowed cloudkill to work.
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>>343178741
>>343178890
BG2 must be played multiple times to fully experience in the first place.
One of these should be just 'break the game'. The other can be 'full bard party'
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>>343178586
goleme are easily forgotten realms

>mfw golems in arcanum
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>>343179103
You didn't get Harm Rock early on?
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>>343179081
>BG2 must be played multiple times to fully experience in the first place.
Definitely!

>self-insert MC
>break the game
>party of characters from a different work of fiction
>go crazy with custom mods
>solo run
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>>343179210
adamanatite doesn't count as rock, its metal

rock golems are easily solved with stone to flesh
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>>343179235
What class did you choose for your solo run?
I pulled it off with sorcerer.
Didn't want to do the standard Kensai/Mage build people suggested last decade
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Is monk viable in any ways? I plan to make a party of characters i never picked too.
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>>343179313
Tbh, I took the easy path and used the Kensai/Mage. Sorcerer would be tough as hell for the first few hours of playtime.
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>>343179351
Yes, they're quite good once they get to higher levels.
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>>343179351
Sure, you will have consistent damage and won't die easily later on.
You will need to baby him until you reach level 12-14.
Quivering palm is good
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>>343178826
Nobody ever gets to see any of Anomen's good writing because nobody ever romances him.
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>>343179351
I've tried one before. Monks are mid-tier. What they lack in weapon skills they make up for with their special moves, and they scale pretty nicely mid-late game (i.e. end of soa, start of tob)
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>>343178890
Making a full party in BG2 breaks the game in half.
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>>343179425
Yeah, I kinda abused Cloudkill wands in some areas. You must also be selective about quests you choose to do in chapter 2 (like scripted battles in a building instead of a dungeons where you have preptime and can snipe enemies)
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>>343179512
The question is should i play as the monk or get rasaad and play different class i never played before like Cleric/Mage, Paladin or Sorcerer. I heard EE giives a lot of monk items.
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>>343178826
>>343179481
Unlike other characters, you need to do his quest AND have select party members in your party(Keldorn essentially).
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>>343179702
Sorceror is game breaking at high levels since you can dump stats to raise wisdom for wish, and when you do your time stop alacricity you can do an entire spellbook dump much more easily.
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>>343179756
And you have to fuck him.

The romance aspect is key to the whole struggle with inadequacy thing he has going on.
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>>343179702
If you want a Cleric/mage just use Aerie and if you want a Paladin just use Keldorn. Sorcerers aren't all that special, so I'd go for a Monk over those other options if I were you.

I mean if you're planning on taking that file to endgame ToB then by all means get a sorcerer, but otherwise a monk will be more different and interesting.
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>>343177350

I got the Imoen mod installed but it's been awhile since I've played BG. How do I progress with her? Just let in game time pass?
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>>343173061
Ma nigga.
Viconia best girl.
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>>343172568
>did you choose /v/?

Yes.
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Was planning on getting BG2EE this Steam sale, but apparently Beamdog has fucked it up royally with a new patch. Is it as bad as people say? Getting the original is not really an option, as I want to import my character from BG1EE (unless there's a tool where I can remake my character with all his attributes and exported items)
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>>343179881
You'll get 3 dream sequences with her and then once you see her again you'll find yourself with a slew of lovetalks to navigate through. If you get through all of that unscathed, then there will be a campfire scene after which you wind up in a relationship.

I forget the CLUAConsole command you can use to check whether the relationship is active or if you cooked it but it's something along the lines of:
C:GetGlobal("ImoenRomanceActive","GLOBAL")
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>>343180087
Shadowkeeper lets you modify existing saves in BG2.
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>>343180087
What is bad with 2.3? Everything works smoothly and major bugs were fixed and most mods work. /v/ likes to talk shit.
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>>343180087
Version 2.0 is incredibly fucked.

I heard you can roll back to 1.3 in Steam beta options, but you shouldn't fucking HAVE to.
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>>343180095
>Aerie asks about those dreams
>you can tell her how you've fucked your own sister in your sleep
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>>343180087
>Is it as bad as people say?

yes, its bugged as fuck, lots of pointless additions and incompatible with most mods

if you want EE just torrent older version (I believe it was 2.0.0.1)
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>>343179837

his papa really got him good
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>Only elves romanceable
nope.avi
My inquisitor ended with none of these bitches and embraced the god powah.
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>>343180387
lmao

Aerie's reaction to when you tell her about that is one of the best pieces of writing in that whole mod imho.
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>>343180885
>bullying Aerie
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>>343180387
>>343180095
>>343180885
The issue I have with it is that it is so different from existing things in the game, it kind of takes you out of it. It heavily uses (parentheses) to describe actions which I don't recall the game using much normally.
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>>343181010
>not bullying that piece of shit
i bet you never fought Haer'Dalis over her then dumped her afterwards
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>>343181084
It's so different because default BG romances are shit and Imoen is KINDA related to MC.
Which only makes it hotter.
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>>343181010
It's okay anon. I have multiple romances activated, so Aerie doesn't mind what I get up to with Imoen.

>>343181084
>The issue I have with it is that it is so different from existing things in the game, it kind of takes you out of it.
Fair enough. I can see how it would be immersion-breaking. I'm able to still enjoy it without losing immersion myself in spite of that.

In part it might be that I tried a few other NPC mods before it: compared to the disturbingly cringe-inducing writing in Saerelith and Chloe, the IR mod felt like a breath of fresh air.
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>>343181384
Does Imoen mod have anything as hilarious as Saerelith doing an instantaneous combustion?
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>>343180374
Apparently they changed the UI to something out of a mobile game and edited dialogue to be more SJW friendly. I usually don't care when /v/ whines, but I read this on GOG and RPGWatch iirc
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>>343181117
>>343181010

>Aerie:"You would turn your back on your own flesh and blood? You would abandon me and our child?”

>“This isn't my problem... I'm not the one who's pregnant.

>Aerie:“You... you are a monster! A cruel, heartless monster! I can't stay here... I won't let my child be poisoned by your evil! I hope you burn in the Abyss!”

Top bully
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>>343181585
>Saerelith doing an instantaneous combustion
I want to forget that that mod exists already.

Nah, not really. There's implication that very bad things happened to Imoen in Spellhold, and iirc she randomly plays a guitar at one point, and at another she steals something from the MC as a prank.

i.e. some slightly jarring/weird stuff, but nothing that's downright unintentional comedy.
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>>343180095

Thanks man.
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>>343181646
Which dialogues? LEAVE ORIGINAL CONTENT UNTOUCHED FUCKING SJW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FAV GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>343181785
Those implications were already in the base game, in the first area.
Except instead of being molested in Spellhold, she was molested by Irenicus.
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>>343181384
Is this still in?
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>>343181785
>steals something from the MC as a prank
that was actually pretty cute and added some banter between her and Aerie as well
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>>343181195
>Incest
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>>343181982
No, that's from the other Imoen romance mod. The latest one was a redo that came out in 2014 or some such.
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>>343181883
>Those implications were already in the base game
They were, yet for some reason people are shocked when the mod is slightly less subtle about it.

>>343181982
>Is this still in?
Yes, though I'd be more inclined to question why you're in that part of the dialogue tree in the first place.

>>343182029
What's that from? That looks hilarious.
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>try to make bg thread many times
>everytime it is dead with no replies.
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>>343172568
Viconia
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>>343182282
I never installed the Imoen mod.
As the filename may clue you in, I got the image from one of the BG2 threads we have every one in a while.

I think the only mod that had anything to do with romance or sex I installed was a 'random NPCs you can bone with reactions'.

I think I uninstalled it eventually.
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>>343182282
Forou Kyoudai. They're twins that are mediums and if they don't stay close to each other or touch each other, Ghosts haunt them.
This of course looks very suspicious.
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Is the EE worth playing if I've never played the original?
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ELVES GET OUT
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>>343182562
Well, it's not horrid or anything.
Not sure if it's better from a decent mod setup of the original though.
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>>343182562
Yes, it adds additional content and works on modern PCs with no problems.
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>>343180087
patch 2.0 destroyed the game forever. You can even watch the results in modding scene.
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I tend to go for Jaheira the most.

NATURE TAKE THE LIFE SHE GAVE!
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>>343182493
It's a mod that gives you loads of options, but there's no need to pick the more stupid ones.

>>343182562
Just spend a few hours setting up the original with mods instead.
http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/the-ultimate-baldurs-gate-experience/
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>>343182865
I didn't realize until like 7 years after my first playthrough you can do little shit, like buying her a necklace in the city (unless that was from some mod restoration content). Still a cute moment. She is generally much more pleasant after she takes the stand against the Harpers
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>>343182507
Thanks, anon!

>>343182990
That's from the original game. It's so easy to miss things like that if you aren't constantly re-exploring the city.
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>>343182990
Problem with her romance in the base game was that it was bugged to FUCK.

Only proceeded without problems about 30% of the time in vanilla.
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>>343172568

Viconia is the only tolerable one, a standard textbook tsundere before anybody in the west had heard of that word. Probably the most mechanically useful of the waifu candidates too.

Aerie tries to be a moeblob but comes across as whiny and self-pitying instead.

Imoen was horrifyingly annoying in BG1, but became kind of cute in 2. Just shows that there's no personality flaw that rape and torture won't solve. Suffers from the fact that there's almost no content for her in SoA after you rescue her, because she was originally intended to die and the devs changed their mind at the last minute.

Jaheira is an intolerable self-righteous cunt, who starts making moves on you before her husband's corpse is even cold.
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>>343183232
>>343183223
I think my first console command in the game ever was fucking triggering Terminsel event.

Second was triggering final Irenicus fight in the World Tree.

Good times.
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>>343182842
>You can even watch the results in modding scene
How come?

On a side note, I can't get Gibberlings to work, so I guess I won't be modding anything.
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>>343183360
>Viconia
>most mechanically useful of the waifu candidates
All she has going for her are some decent cleric spells. Meanwhile Aerie has that plus the advantages of being a mage, and Jaheira has Insect Plague - a.k.a. one of the most hilariously broken and simple-to-use spells in the game.
>Aerie tries to be a moeblob but comes across as whiny and self-pitying instead.
At least she makes up for that with some self-awareness. Overly apologetic and constantly tries to tell you about her past, but you can always just tell her to shut up.
>Imoen suffers from the fact that there's almost no content for her in SoA after you rescue her, because she was originally intended to die and the devs changed their mind at the last minute.
Good thing they changed that too. That would have been annoying and edgy.
>Jaheira is an intolerable self-righteous cunt, who starts making moves on you before her husband's corpse is even cold.
She takes several whole weeks after finding out her former husband is dead before hitting on you which is still a hilariously short span of time.
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>>343182295
You can never go wrong with waifus.
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>>343183360
>Imoen was horrifyingly annoying in BG1
Was she? I barely remember her talking there and her standard replies just made her look like a young and inexperienced girl who is fairly afraid of dungeons.
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>>343183773
>All she has going for her are some decent cleric spells.

And ability to get 90% magic resistance. That's not nothing.
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>>343183809
>They actually managed to make Nalia look hot
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>>343183884
She was added late in game because bioware thought that there are not enough good thieves in game.
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>>343184029
There's no Nalia on the picture, senpai.
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whats so bad about EE? I somehow never played BG, and want to get into it especially since I only have a laptop at the moment, so modern games are a no-no, but recent reviews for EE are atrocious
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>>343184165
Wait, who's the semen demon in the center?
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>>343184271
OC donut steel
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>>343184195
>whats so bad about EE?

The added content is fanfiction-tier. I'd guess that's the main problem.
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>>343184195
They fucked up interface with the siege of dragonspear expansion.
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>>343172568
>>343176031
>>343176454
>>343176543
>>343176974

this is some ugly looking art, no way is this real, this shit's barely better than most deviantart garbage
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>>343182904
I think I'll do that. Thanks for the link.
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>>343184195
In 2.0 they fucked with the interface and added an ugly filter on character sprites.
1.3 or whatever the latest pre-2.0 patch was is perfectly fine.
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>>343184524
>They fucked up interface with the siege of dragonspear expansion.
did they never fix that? also is the interface bad just in the expansion, or the main title too?
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>>343184874
It retroactively fucks up your installation, I think
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>>343184852
>1.3 or whatever the latest pre-2.0 patch was is perfectly fine.
can you revert to it?
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>>343185126
You can pirate it.
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>>343185126
Dunno about Steam but on GoG they keep the 5 latest patches which currently means that you can get the good version of BG2 but not BG1.
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>>343172568
Drow pussy is the best among Faerun.
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>>343185570
>you will never experience drow erotic arts
Why even live?
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>>343185363
>GoG
Why would you buy games from a site which doesn't give you cheeevos?
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>>343182990

As the other anons stated its from the original game and yes its cute as fuck.
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>>343185745
>dem thighs
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Trapwin was best girl fags
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Who is the character you pretty much never included in your party long run?
Aside from that faggot Cernd.

I pretty much never stuck with Mazzy. She is not that strong for semi-optimal runs, and while inoffensive, she is also kinda boring
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>>343185989
Lorewise Drow women are known of having slim but athletic build and to be the most physically attractive out of elven races in Faerun.
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>>343186303
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>>343186450
Resisting Phaere should have been a willpower check
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>>343175934
Is there really any reason to dual class her in BG 1? I did it and she wasn't able to use her thief levels until the very end of the game.
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>>343187126
No, most certainly not
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>>343172568
Jaheira
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>>343187126
It's a meme. Better to get another mage, than dual her.
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>>343186801
Daughter of the matron would easily be one of the most beautiful women out there. Getting her attention would be a great honour by Drow culture standards to the point that the male could be punished for resisting.

Thats how the drow make kids by the way. If two find to be attracted to each other they simply go to the lust chambers and spend quite some time there. Marriages and relationships are quite foreign to the Drow. They understand lust but know no love.
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>>343187331
A handmaiden collaring you is a bit more special than pure one time lust, right?

If that was the vision of matriarchy, I would have succumbed long ago
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>>343187417
Drow themselves get enslaved only as war captives or rarely renegades that were not executed or transformed into a Drider for some reason.

There is also nearly no motherhood in the drow culture. Girls are immediately to the temple where priestesses raise them and boys are sent some of the houses to train to become a soldier or a mage. Though it depends even though drow women tend to be always somewhat dominant, only cities that have prominent Lolth worship have truly set matriarchal theocracy. They are cities where the males are dominant as powerful fighters and mages. It was R.A. Salvatore that set the trend of drow being crazy matriarchal demonfucking bitches.
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>>343188093
Interesting.
In an DnD drow related adventures I had playing (mostly 3.5), it was always Lolth focused with a matriarch starting shit
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>>343187173
>>343187217
That's what I thought, she was pretty much useless the entire game.
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>>343188256
Well i could say a lot as self proclaimed Forgotten Realms lore expert with 7 years of DMing experience. I did quite ammount of research for my current campaign set in Amn where that sooner or later i plan to venture them into the underdark with all the aspects of it. Trust me that drow societies are the most normal compared to other races living there liki Ilithids.
Now I'm aifrad they will move this thread to /tg/ soon.
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>>343185570

I do find it hilarious how when all other waifus are like "HOW COULD YOU" when that one drow boss demands to fuck you, Vicky is all "Yeah, what did I tell you? Drow pussy is the best".
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>>343189497
wait, can you still romance her after that?
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>>343187126
>Is there really any reason to dual class her in BG 1?

Yes. There's a lot of value in being able to cast Fireball as a stealth attack. Just secure a replacement thief first.

So many people did it that it ended up being official in BG2.
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>>343189615
Yes. As only she understands the drow customs it is normal to her to share bed with a handmaiden because she is attracted to you. It is weird that bhaalspawn wasn't punished for resisting.
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>>343189615

Absolutely. She's not even mad. She's like "of course you're going to give the dick when the matron demands it, lowly male".
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>>343189615
IIRC she even shit-talks you a bit if you DON'T fuck whatever her name was.
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>>343176543
Remember them bantering once and things got heated. Keldorn smashed Anomen into a thousand pieces

Was genuinely shocked
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>>343190347

Keldorn is kind of a psycho because he's among the most likely characters to just straight up murder your own party members. He has some % chance to just flat out attack Viconia too. On the other hand, he's best friends with the Chaotic Evil murderdwarf.
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>>343190503
Hes a paladin so he pretty much has to go deus vult on some people. I think he just murders viconia because she worships an evil god. Cant remember why he kills Anomen.
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>>343182904
>all of the links are dead
Fucking christ.
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>>343182598
You're playing D&D. There is no getting away from elves, friend.
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>>343178569
Sucks
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>>343190751
I imagine it also has a lot to do with the fact Keldorn is an old experienced paladin that's seen some shit.
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>>343178569

God, that game looks a lot worse than I remembered.
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Recommended first party for a neutral or good party in BG2? Three of my favorites from BG1 are gone from the sequel, and I never really liked using Minsc.
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>>343193004
I have high res textures and shaders too m8.
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>>343193009

Almost all NPCs in BG2 are pretty strong so just go with whatever feels good. Remember to leave the sixth slot open for a "visiting" NPC so you can do their questlines.
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>>343193009

Always recruit Keldorn unless you're an Inquisitor yourself. Keldorn is stupidly powerful (his double level Dispel ability trivializes many mage encounters) and just in general a cool guy.
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>>343190751
I do remember that if Anomen fails his test, he snaps and they fight
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>>343193227
Cernd is shit tho.
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>>343190751
If Anomen fails his knighthood trials, he goes maximum edge and starts insulting Keldorns god when Keldorn tries to talk some sense into him. Anomen then instigated the fight and gets rekt every time because he's up against an paladin armed with a holy avenger +5
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>>343193009
For a good party, Keldorn does the heavy hitting (unless you do it yourself).
Valygar can add damage, mazzy is just okay.
Jann is your best thief choice(Yoshimo is Yoshimo, you get Imoen later, Nalia sucks).
Aerie is a good spellcaster.
Jaheira can heal if needed and can survive scraps, but late game falls of a bit (though when she gets access to epic spells, she picks up some slack).

Anomen is ok if you make sure he passes the test and treat him more for melee then cleric support.

Cernd is awful, Helis is functional but not great.

The rest are evil
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>>34319403
Mazzy is incredibly useful against mages once you get the gesen short now. The extra lightning damage goes through most protections. Coupled with unlimited arrows and grandmaster short now attack speed means mages never get a single non instant spell off.
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How much will my kensai get rekt in BG2? He's half-orc, so his class is set in stone.
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>>343176693

>mfw I fucked Aerie during that quest in drow city and then kicked her out of the team right before the dragon spell dissolved

Is there someone more mischief than me?
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>>343194038
What about Minsc?
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>>343172568
>the ayyy lmao elves
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>>343197618
Saerileth and Chloe.
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>>343196373
Isn't he a R€ddit tier meme NPC with mediocre abilities?
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>>343196373
Well, he said he never really liekd using Minsc.
He is the second best pure fighter in the game (not counting Sarevok)
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>>343198323
Why those?
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>>343198637
Im playing BG 2 right now and i agree with this, He is a pretty generic good-fighter type character. Only twist is that he acts like a retard. Only reason to bring him along is to see him getting BTFO'd by edwin/viccy,
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>>343198637
His rage ability is useful against vampires as he is immune to level drain when enraged.

>>343198929
He isn't ever a fighter but a ranger. The second best fighter title belongs to Korgan i think.
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>>343199302
>>343199234
I'm a kensai myself, so I guess I should go for someone who could work as a tank instead. Keldorn fills that role, right? I used Ajantis in BG1.
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>>343172568
>not going for the Tsundere
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>>343199816
Never used Keldorn myself in the later half of BG2 because i let him leave my party after his companion quest. He is not a fully fledged tank because of his best weapon being a two-hander but he can probably handle it. He's also really good versus mages and has some entertaining banter with both good and evil characters.
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>>343199816
Keldorn is wonderful for tanking. Also he is an absolute magekiller with his dispels and true seeing. Then he can wield carsomyr that casts dispel magic on every hit without any saving throws.
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>>343200368
>>343200208
That sounds great actually. Guess I'll go for him, Imoen, some mage and another thief or the like. Thanks, lads.
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>>343198637

>the edgelords of today are too edgy to appreciate comic relief characters
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>>343201310
Eh there are better comic relief characters in bg2 then Minsc like Jan and a lot of the characters have pretty funny party banter AND interesting traits/gameplay.
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>>343172568
>Viconia is best girl by a wide margin
>Her romance ending has her dying whereas everyone else's romance ending is happily ever after
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>>343203535
NPC flirtpack is supposed to be fixing it. But only if you are lefy human adn both of you are evil, my neutral evil assasin wasn't evil enough actually, you have to be as evil as edgy it can be i read. So I cried i bitch at the ending.
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>>343203535
I heard an Edwin Romance mod comes with a good end change to Viccy's ending. For some reason.
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>>343172568
>there are people out there that didn't use the +6 dick of alignment change
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>>343204563
Many people get both edwin and viconia on their evil playthroughs.
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>>343172568
Imoen romance mod. Why? Because im sick fuck who enjoys sister-on-sister lesbian romance.
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