Is this accurate?
>forgetting one of the best indie games that stars nothing but robots
>>343163880
It's not entry level though.
>>343163775
Replace Drakengard with Nier.
>>343163775
I wouldnt really call Pathologic entry level, its kind of impenetrable for an English audience. And I wouldn't call Drakengard arthouse. Toss Ico in there and maybe I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream.
>>343163775
What is bottom second from left?
>>343163775
lol no, nothing in there is art house.
Any popular thing that appears 'arthouse' is just trying to appear that way for the sake of it.
>>343163993
NieR isn't arthouse, though. It makes you want to fucking kill yourself, but drakengard makes you want to fucking kill yourself artistically.
Drakengard has no right to be on that list of great games.
>>343163775
fuck off
>>343164060
Maybe Little Inferno, Talos Principle, Dropsy and Myst.
>>343164095
Semi-popular RPG maker game with decent music.
>>343164101
What is "arthouse" to you, anon?Because last I checked, arthouse films usually flaunt about how they're arthouse.
funny that even "art house" videogames are still cheesy and cliché
this medium is terrible art-wise because the target audience is nerds, and nerds have notoriously bad taste when it comes to anything art
>>343164228
They're "cheesy" and "cliche" because it's a new as fuck medium that refuses to actually innovate.
Some of the first music were love stories. Some of the first literature were love stories. Some of the first films were love stories. And so with the newest artistic medium, Shadow of the Colossus is a love story, considered the greatest one in the mediumbecause it's so fucking new.
holyshit what a fucking mess
mgs2 and pathologic aren't even in the same class as the other games
their messages are heavily obfuscated but clearly intentional from start to finish
everything else is really straightforward
>>343164185
What's it called?
>>343164228
anon I think you've either never played those games or they weretoo deep for you
>>343164386
off
>>343164386
OFF
>>343164376
Just because they're straight forward doesn't mean they're bad, as a matter of fact, the better you can deliver your message, the better most art is.
Where is SPACE FUNERAL you philistine SWINE??
>>343164613
not entry level
>>343164613
In the trash, where it belongs.
>>343164060
>impenetrable for an English audience
It got an accurate translation last year so now at least you can make some sense of the game
>>343164721
only the REMAKE belongs in the DREDGE DUMP. Why they had to drag poor BUBSY's mutilated corpse into with that putrid thing's existence shall forever baffle me!
Needs Kane and Lynch 2 as well.
Fixed it
El Shaddai
One of my guys died in Killer 7. Is he dead for the rest of the game?
>>343165904
No. Play as Garcian and then go to where your guy died.
>>343165445
Well I've played the entry level games. What games are on the next level?
>>343166396There are none because videogames are such a young mediumbut pretty much anything in this thread is a good step-up. I like desolate hope, space funeral, and Riven.
>>343166323
What did he mean by this?
Majora's Mask is easily the deepest game I've ever played no joking
>>343163775
off isnt as entry level but this is good overall
>>343165445
what was so bad about majora's mask 3d? I thought it fixed a lot of the game's bad design choices and issues
>>343169567
It removes the racism, the nihilistic tone of the inside of the moon, several pieces of symbolism lost by newcomers that didn't understand the original, the new art direction gives a completely different tone, and overall it was a bastardization of the original.
There weren't any real fixes aside from being able to fast-travel to any specific hour. That was the only good thing added in the 3ds remake, but it doesn't make up for all the drawbacks.
>>343163775
LISA isn't arthouse, Drakengard isn't arthouse, Mother 3, SotC isn't arthouse. They don't really raise a lot of though-provoking issues, LISA is mostly played off as black comedy, for example, while entire plot for Drakengard was "horrible people doing inhuman things", as said by Taro himself.
Killer 7 is just Suda being Suda
MGS and SH2 has good chunk of arthouse in them
Pathologic and OFF fit the bill, but are overly pretentious at times.
Can't say anything about Zelda because I never played a single zelda game.
Something like that, OP.
>>343163775
Was Yume Nikki arthouse?
>>343163775
Ico, Sun Flower Rain and, probably, Half-Quake trilogy should be added.
What about Deadly Premonition?
>>343164228
>cheesy and cliché
Look up Drakengards cutscenes before you spout such bullshit.
:^)
>>343169808
Majora's Mask is definitely the most philosophical game nobody would think that Nintendo would make.
It's fucking ridiculous how nihilistic, depressing, and cynical the themes and messages of the games can get. I never thought a nintendo game would teach me that what's on the inside, what the truth is "doesn't matter," but it's the mask you wear and the way people see you is what matters, because that's what has an actual affect on the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5x3vtTVUio
>>343169808
here you go senpai
>>343163775
>no ICO
You're shit OP.
>>343170574
>Arthouse Vidya:
>Cynical/Depressing Philosophical Garbage
>Cynical/Depressing Character Analysis Garbage
>Cynical/Depressing Philosophical Garbage
>Cynical/Depressing Religious Allegory-fest Garbage
>Cynical/Depressing CultureClash Garbage
>Hilarious commentary on why you're all sheep
wow so deep/inspirational
Let's just compile arthouse vidya and not argue about what is "entry level":
ICO
Xenogears
LSD
Eastern Mind
Crypt Worlds
NORTH
Glitchhikers
Space Funeral
Yume Nikki
Ib
The Static Speaks My Name
In Search of Paradise
Kentucky Route ZeroDear Esther and Gone Home
>>343171236
Sluggish Morss
Middens
Dungeoneer
>>343171327
>Sluggish Morss
Googling that led me to discover there's a Markiplier wiki
http://markiplier.wikia.com/wiki/Sluggish_Morss
What the fuck?
>>343170716
it's nice