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>>343127023
LB is slightly more balanced.
Other than that it's one of the best fightan games ever period.
There's to many infinite in this game...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX2F7SS420Q
>>343127306
That's what I thought, but someone told me it was shallow and I couldn't comprehend how anyone thought that.
>>343127375
These are harder to do than they look, and banned in competitive play anyway.
It's pretty fun.
Nice OST too. I hate whenever you continue the track is just silence though.
>>343128321
Games shouldn't be played competitively if they have to have things banned first.
>>343128518
What I really don't get is how anyone could think it's shallow.
The poor competitive balance I'm fine with, since nobody really plays competitively these ddays afaik.
But shallow? LB2? Nah.
>>343128518
The game was released in 98' ffs, Internet wasn't as big as today, connection was slow as shit, and this game was in an Arcade of all things; How do you think they could have "balance" it?
>>343127023
Basically the game's not very well balanced, there's multiple glitches and a million infinites. It's still a fun game however.
>>343128457
Do you have a main?
Is it that evil cunt?
>>343129025
Nope.
Haven't quite gotten really good with anyone yet.
>>343128321
Just gotta love the easy-to-use counter mechanic that depended on player timing. You could bluff things so easily.
Also the game was bretty fast.
IMO 98' Best Fighting Game
>>343127023
-unbalanced as fuck, you have really weak characters and really strong ones, no middle point
-sound quality is all over the place compared to other snk titles
-only power groove is relevant, speed is shit and EX makes you take shitloads of damage, same, due balance issues, only character relevant enough with speed is moriya but zantetsu lee and mukuro overshadow him
-backgrounds worse than lb1 but that is only personal opinion
-deflect system throwing a wrench at the fluidity of combat making games long as fuck since you can get deflected mid string if you even dare to use a C attack
-hardware slowdown on some attacks
-easy ground chain infinites, easy air infinites, easy juggle infinites
among other shit
>>343129203
>98' Best Fighting Game
Stop with this stupid things, KoF XI / 2002 UM and XIII are infinitely better than this game.
>>343128518
It's not banned because it's "OP," it's banned because someone can sit there and basically win on a timeout by mashing a button. That aside, LB2 infinities are very situational and really aren't beneficial as a player since scaling stops all damage after a certain point. It isn't like MvC2.
>>343129307
>unbalanced as fuck, you have really weak characters and really strong ones, no middle point
Could you give examples?
I think there are a few characters that fall in the middle, like Amano, Kaede, Shigen and Okina.
>>343129307
>unbalanced as fuck
I really hate when people bring this shit up. No one on /v/ is competent enough to be a competitive player and every old fighting game is unbalanced. SFIII, LB2, Garou, everything. Want to win every game you play? Shut up and pick a top tier then. Want to enjoy the game and have fun? Play who you like, but shitting on an old ass fighting game for being unbalanced is absolute retardation. They were never created to be perfectly balanced e-sports shit. They were designed to be fun.
>>343129418
What makes them infinitely better? Haven't played much of the KoF series.
>>343129418
>XIII
touch of death combos by everyone, awful artstyle, fathena, bland and awful music (worst geese theme rendition)
>XI
infinites everywhere and easily spammable thanks to change system, judgment system encouraging turtling or dragged out fights, tier system fucked up beyond redemption to name a few
2002 UM is alright but the tier balance is also fucking awful and 02 speed isn't up to my liking specially since it affected how weak normals are linked but that's just my opinion
>>343130068
Kek, nigger I use Moriyah and abuse his teleport glitch, I sure know about unbalanced
>>343130068
>I am bad at every fighting game so therefore everyone playing the game is bad
that is beyond retarded reasoning, here's your (You)
>>343129997
overpowered characters shit on the rest of the cast, and I mean it
Zantetsu can fucking infinite you in his sleep, his priority is top notch, his anti air game is strong as well and he even has aerial projectiles that can be used to, yep, infinte you
Lee can link the fuck out of you even if he is not using speed, his anti air hitbox also covers a good range and cannot be negated so if you decide to even go in the air you are done, his special attacks come way too fast, etc
mukuro is a special kind of asshole, not only his attacks hitboxes are HUGE but he can cover the entire screen with some of them, his hitboxes also cover half of the screen almost the entire time the battle is going on dealing tons of damage, his shit comes fast, he has literally unfair air and ground play
I'd say the most balanced out of the higher tiers is probably moriya but even then he still has good combos, priority, fast special moves, among other stuff, can also teleport and cancel said teleport for instant recovery
the top tiers literally shit on the rest of the cast
>>343130306
And you're more then welcome to. It's part of the game, and in some cases it literally becomes part of the game (look at how pro MvC2 play translated into MvC3.) I'm just saying you're a goddamn bloke if you mention "the game is unbalanced" as a negative. Every revered fighting game is a broken piece of shit, so it's not worth listing as a detriment.
>>343131092
It is a detriment, for example 3s trifecta ruins the experience for people looking to go deep into it, unless you are fucking kuroda or are playing with scrubs
>>343130150
98 compared to XI / 2002 UM / XIII are really really to poor in this battle system.
There's no max mode, no striker, the combo are really poor and limitated he was excellent in 98, but, nowadays, he's just outdated
>>343130950
Zantetsu is a motherfucker, that's true. The guy I usually play with can't use him at all, but he hops around just constantly poking and my Juzoh can't do shit.
Lee's anti-air is a charge move, it's fine that it's strong because he can't just react with it any time.
Mukuro's ranged attacks are very punishable & his ground crawl isn't scary once you're used to throwing out a low attack whenever you see it coming.
Plus the parry mechanic means the actual better player will always have an edge.
God blaised SNK, KoF XIV is coming
>>343131245
There's a lot more to 3S that drives people away than just "top-level competitive players, who I'll never be as good as, only play three characters." Outside of that, this logic makes no sense:
>I want to get good, understand SFIII, and win
>"Okay, pick a top tier character"
>No
>"Then work harder with less viable characters."
>No
>"???"
The game is from a pre-patch era. Why the fuck would you expect it to be perfectly balanced? And even if it was, most people wouldn't be able to see/understand it outside of competitive players/developers. And people getting into SFIII are neither of those.
>>343131789
>no striker
Strikers are awful and always broke the system, see how 00/01 fared with them, plus none of the games you listed have strikers in them
>no max mode
98 has max mode in advanced groove, it empowers your normal attacks, makes your DM's into SDM's but makes pushblock push you further
>combos limited
Doesn't have death of touch combos which are awful if that is what you mean, one of the main reasons why XIII and XI are frowned upon, also combos in 98 aren't as simple as 2 in 1 when you actually know your shit
>>343132135
>Why the fuck would you expect it to be perfectly balanced
They had an entire game as experience before the 2nd came out and it somehow made things worse, that's no excuse, plus the top tiers shitting on everyone else affects how the game is played against people with similar skill, unless you want to get your ass reamed 24/7 and call it an enjoyable experience
>>343129418
>he thinks XI is better than '98
topkek
I'm optimistic about KoF XIV, he's like a mix of KoF 2002 UM and KoF XIII for the ressource and a little bit of 98 UM for the simplicity
>>343132315
>Strikers are awful and always broke the system, see how 00/01 fared with them, plus none of the games you listed have strikers in them
This is your opinion, but in KoF communty, a lot of guys love this system, that's original and galvanize the gameplay plus, that's adds a depth that would never exist in 98'.
>>343127023
Bland game with generic animu designs. It's like the awkward middleman between KOF and SamSho.
Stages are gorgeous though.
>>343133212
>generic animu designs
Kek.The design is one of the best thing in the game.
>>343133131
>a lot of guys
Eh no. 2000 is niche in the community compared to '98 and '02.
>>343133212
Honestly don't think you've played it if you're comparing it to Samurai Shodown.
>>343133360
Meh. They look dull. SamSho has better chara-designs. LB's characters look like some Rurouni Kenshin rejects.
>>343133131
They always led to easy infinites, always, except in 99, only featured in 3 games as well, and broke 00 and 01 beyond redemption, 00 had the 100% combos without meter thing and 01 had the sit on top of max special bars and launch three strikers while you combo them for 100% as well
There's a good reason why they were only featured on 3 games and never heard or spoken of again, that is bullshit, no KoF community loves them and everyone praised how XIII and XIV was going back to normal styled matches, no striker bullshit nor swapping on the spot
>>343133528
Re-read what I said.
>>343133607
>Rurouni Kenshin rejects
that's actually what they were going for
>>343133607
Not really tho.
>>343133607
>Rurouni Kenshin
That's normal, Kenshin was the principal chara-design inspiration of Last Blade.
>>343133607
>LB's characters look like some Rurouni Kenshin rejects.
That's the point.
>>343128321
>banned in competitive play anyway.
You fucking faggot, those infinites shouldn't be in the game in the first place you piece of shit dick sucker.
>>343133716
Yeah, it still reads like you're full of shit.
Read it a third time, just to be sure. Same result.
>>343133865
And my dick shouldn't be in your mom, but there it is.
>>343132716
>They had an entire game as experience before
And? That doesn't mean shit. There's a lot of things you can't see coming when it comes to balancing a fighting game. One of Makoto's best tactics was only found out eight or nine years after the game released. No matter how big your balancing team, there will always be things you can't catch.
>top tiers shitting on everyone else affects how the game is played against people with similar skill
Wow, everyone else wants to win, so they only pick the safest and best characters with the best tools and frame data in the game? Weird! Sarcasm aside, if you want to play people on your own skill level, then ADAPT. Want to even the playing field? Pick the characters they play, learn the tactics they use, and exploit the flaws in their playing. You aren't forced to play shitty characters, so if you want to play on even ground, just swallow your pride and learn an actually good character.
>>343133906
He has a point though, high level play is centered around slow paced footsies like samsho is, however the game devolves into a combofest when someone lands a lucky hit provided it doesn't get parried and the favor returned in full effect
Neo-G wants to make a another Samurai Shodown.
>>343133789
>>343133791
>>343133802
And that's why I don't like them.
>>343134047
How is that possible when you're a fat Chinese virgin with a microdick
>>343134117
>just swallow your pride and learn an actually good character.
That's the point, lb2 only has like 5 usable characters because everyone else is shit compared to them, it's 3s syndrome and one of the reasons why it sucks
Also
>do one thing
>repeat the process and do it worse
you're supposed to learn from your mistakes, not double the faults
>>343134249
They didn't learn after Sen?
>>343134124
Thank you.
>tfw though you never learned to play arcade fighting games properly you always beated the top guys around and your friends thought you knew how to play it but you just buttonmashed everything at once until the specials popped out.
Great feeling familia
>>343134395
Because your mom's a whore.
>>343134792
>confirmed for:
>fat
>chink
>virgin
>microdick
>>343134457
If you're this committed, show me one perfectly balanced fighting game from the pre-patch era. Every highly-esteemed fighting game, SFIII, MvC2, Tekken Tag 2, CvS2, SFII Turbo, Garou, Soul Calibur II, and so on all have fucked tiers and broken shit when it comes to competitive play, which is exactly why I argued it's retarded to mention "it's unbalanced" as a negative in the first place.
>>343134572
Sen wasn't develop by SNK.
> complaints from /v/
> it's about last blade 2
> the same /v/ that faps to Asari (male) sfm critiques the art direction of last blade 2
back in my day /v/ just played pretend to be full of faggots. Seems like the pretend part is now optional, full in faggotry is required part of shit posting.
>>343134759
Yeah, they sure sound like "top guys" if you can beat them like that, senpai.
>>343134759
I was playing SCII with a bunch of friends several years ago, and there was one guy who'd never played but was beating everyone. He just kept casually dodging attacks & wrecking people, and it was only watching his hands that I realised he was just mashing the pad with the most phenomenal luck I'd ever seen.
>>343134901
I'm absolutely certain that I'm only 1 of those 4 things.
I'm even more certain that your mom's a dirty dirty whore.
Insult...insult everywhere.
>play online
>remember I used to hear shit about infinites
>don't really know how to use Lee, even though I heard he was top-tier or some shit, but use him anyways because whatever, also Akari
>fight against some dude who only uses setsuna, no matter what
>I get close to what I feel could be an infinite
>back off and continue the fight as normal
I dunno man. Maybe we just had a mutual respect thing, because he never used infinites on me either.
>>343134249
Oda wants to make another World Heroes of all things. I'm surprised he didn't push for a WH team or something for XIV.
>>343137342
>Oda wants to make another World Heroes of all things.
Wasn't World Heroes pretty average?
>>343133607
Washizuka and Moriya were inspired by Rurouni Kenshin, but the other characters weren't.
>>343127023
Nothing, it's a fun game.
>>343136757
Online players love Setsuna for some reason. And they all seem to play EX.
>>343127023
The last blade series is one of my top 5 when casually vs a friend or someone who doesn;t know how to break the game but like MoTW/3rd strike its just not fun at all at higher levels of play.
>>343127023
>Akio Otsuka is the announcer
Absolutely nothing!
>>343127023
It's purely footsies based, unless you play Kaede.
So people think it's boring.
>>343138123
Even as a footsie-based game, it's boring.
And I love footsie-based games.
>>343137902
MotW too?
I've never been so happy to be a scrub.
>>343137505
World Heroes Perfect is pretty fun.
>>343138123
How's Kaede different? I haven't played him much.
>>343129181
Plain and perfect wife.
>>343138123
I feel like the footsie element is MUCH stronger in Samurai Showdown than Last Blade
>>343138760
I mean yeah, obviously.
>>343138495
Ah. I see. Guess I'll look that up someday.
>>343137505
I liked it better than SF2 at the time because of the cast and the deathmatch mode.
>>343137505
Word Heroes had some proto-GG mechanics IIRC: invincible backdashes, (free) roman cancels, jump cancels.
The roster itself is pretty fun. It even has Neo Dio.
>>343129181
>>343138603
I'd like to take my blade to her chest, cut her open and bathe in her blood, if you catch my drift.
>>343139112
https://youtu.be/VJfSsDdgF7Y
>>343139678
Everytime i see Ryoko i get a good chukle out of remembering the judoka they based her on is ugly as sin.
>>343139546
Interesting.
>>343139678
It does look pretty fun.
>>343139942
Skill surpasses beauty!
>>343138574
Kaede = Ken.
>>343137765
Setsuna is actually pretty good in EX, since it gives him a low confirm into super that none of the other modes have.
One of the neo geo dudes wants to make a new Windjammers game
>>343140213
Who needs skill with that face, if i was her oponent i'd think Chucky got supersized and i'd be running the fuck away.
