So, who needs a nerf next?
Reduce this fatty's health and then nerf Junkrat
>>343104512
>reducing the health of a class thats designed to absorb damage
Could you go into further detail as to what you think is wrong with junkrat?
No one needs a nerf. Fuck off.
>>343104512
Winston
>>343104512
No.
I believe that people should learn the current game instead of nerfing everything into the ground
>>343104693
>High health
>High damage
>Self-heal
>Mile long hook
McCree was the only thing stopping this guy from lolhitboxhooking unpunished, now you have to group up behind a Rein and get mowed down by a flanker instead
RIP cyborg cowboyman
>>343104697
Scumbag Roadhog player detected
>>343104813
"Git good" is not an argument
>>343105105
oh god this tank is great againts single targets , this game taht doesnt involve team play this guy is so overpowered , if only you had a way to attack with someone else or with several people , like, lets call it a team attack.
Roadhog is an ultimate battery and can be taken down easily if 2 or 3 people concentrate on him
>>343104512
I swear, sometimes he grabs me right when I am out of his hook range.
That shit needs to be fixed.
Only thing that I think needs nerfed is mercy's ult. Either it needs to recharge slower or only activate at the end of the animation.
>reducing his health
his health is the only tanky thing he has going for him
>>343105653
don't say that, faggots in this thread will claim that is overpowered , they want a tank that is easy to kill
>>343104512
The only fix Roadhog needs right now is better collision detection on his hook. Right now, it is entirely possible to be pulled through level geometry, and it needs to stop.
>tfw consolefag
>tfw Torb is getting a massive undeserved nerf because people can't play for shit with a controller
If they have to nerf him then make his turret slower don't fucking destroy its ability to do any damage at all, fucking christ
If you take health from him I'll absolutely wreck him as Mei. The fact that I can regularly take him on already is pretty bad.
>>343105712
That only happens if you're playing online
>>343105927
Shouldve nerfed the turret range, not it's strength
>>343104512
Roadhog is fine. Maybe a slight hook travel time increase because you still have to barely lead targets who are very far away from you, and it's practically hitscan at close/mid range.
>>343104512
>Gigantic, slow moving target with a very short range primary that has a large spread and low ammo
>Is a tank, so his role is to stay on the fucking point and soak up damage as he draws attacks
>"hurr hurr, lower his health he is op"
Reaper melts him unless surprised/ambushed, a decent Soldier or well placed Bastion can easily take him on, and Symettra and her turrets easily ruin his day.
He is balanced as is, and he serves his purpose rather well.
>>343106093
it's funny because you have to be online to play the game, hehehe
>>343105898
when playing him is not that his hooks go tru geometry its more like they follow their targets after they hook someone so the hook bends around walls when it reached a target, also the hook hitbox is huge as fuck thats why it does shit like that.
>>343105143
At least he have only 4 shots and hook on 8s cd. Space cowboy had a free kill every time he reloaded
>>343104512
Why not nerf everyone expect your favorite hero?git gud faggit
>>343104804
That's one shitty Bastion.
>>343104512
He's my main but I never really appreciated his health till I started using Reaper a lot. He's the only character that can take his time to aim and stun me while I death blossom. It takes he whole duration of death blossom to fucking kill him
>>343106182
why do people keep saying Roadhog is slow as fuck?
he has the same move speed as everyone else, its only Tracer and Genji that move faster than everyone else.
Bastion is only good if he doesnt notice you first, cuz otherwise its just an easy as fuck hook
>nerfing the only tank that can't block damage
>nerfing the biggest ult battery in the game
>>343104512
>le ebic hook man of many instakills
Just nerf the fucking damage he does on close range, not by a lot but enough that it wouldnt be able to instakill all fucking attack heroes except reaper with some bullshit hook hitbox.
![adapt-mk_1024x1024[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UIOE10A.jpg "adapt-mk_1024x1024[1].jpg")
>>343104512
Fuck off.
>>>/vg/lolg
>>343106364
Probably just seems slower because all his abilities cause his movement to stop or slowdown
>>343105927
Torbjorn's turret is absolute bullshit with the lock on.
>>343105105
>High health
Because he is a tank
>High damage
At short range
>Self-heal
Because he doesn't have a shield that regenerates, bubbles that can protect you from damage, mobility and skill that shoots down any and all projectiles, and is a slow fat target
>Mile long hook
Literally a made up number and his only way to make him useful. If he walked around with a 4 shot gun and a heal he would be useless.
>>343106182
>Bastion
>literally getting hooked out of turret form
Reaper I'll concede because that's his fucking role, 76 maybe. RH would have to be completely unaware of a stationed turret as big as he is for Bastion to shit on him.
*Fix the fucking hook.
I've gotten hooked through two walls countless times.
>>343105105
>No mobility
>Low mag size and RoF
>Only tank that can't block damage
>>343106364
I always see people rush by my when I play as him.
>Bastion is only good if he doesnt notice you first, cuz otherwise its just an easy as fuck hook
Which is why I said "well placed Bastion" which means a Bastion that is far enough away from choke points to avoid the hook, but close enough to deal decent damage to an area/target
>>343105653
>Requiring 2-3 just to counter him
Oh yeah, real balanced
>>343106631
Thats not the hook its the 20 tick
>>343106705
I don't fucking care what it is, it's the single most infuriating thing in the whole game and it needs a fix ASAP.
>>343106704
So Rein is OP because it requires most of the team to concentrate on his shield to destroy it? A tank is supposed to be a serious issue that requires teamwork to take down.
>>343106704
That's what a fucking tank is, you moron.
>>343105927
Consolefag here, I'm genuinely upset that Torbjorn is getting nerfed. Nerfing the range or swivel speed would be exponentially better, but I don't even think it was necessary. (Coming from a guy who plays Genji, Tracer, Mei, and Roadhog, for context.)
>>343105105
le list of strengths with no context, statistics or any relevant discussion points face. Are you lost? The moba subreddit is >>>/that way/
How about roadhogs utter lack of mobility, his giant head hitbox and hitbox in general, his lack of damage outside super short range, his inability to deal with mobile harassers that can easily dodge his hook, the fact that he feeds ult to the enemy team, and more? Fucking get good, there are plenty of characters that feast on him.
>>343104804
The power of consoles
>league players accustomed to nerfs every month, before the game can settle
Tracer fucks him unless you get lucky with the hook.
If you look at the top tier of players it would make sense to evaluate which hero needs if that hero can basically carry their team.
With my moderate understanding a GOOD Tracer will absolutly decimate the backline. The problem is she's more or less immortal unless she gets caught with Recall on CD. But a GOOD Tracer doesnt do anything stupid while Recall is on CD.
>nerf the recharge timer on Blink
Another one would be Reaper which seems quite difficult to counter now when McCree cant easily dispose of him.
>nerf the amount of health gained for each soul
>Roadhog needs a HP nerf
Zenyatta absolutly destroy Roadhogs its not even funny. Ofcourse Zenyatta need protection in form of a Reinhardt or other "big" targets to soak bullets for him.
>Junkrat
Not sure about this one. Junkrat is one of my most played characters and he's good. He's also extremly countered by Pharah and Pharah is always a popular pick.
Just buff zenyatta.
>>343106989
Give me the source and nobody gets HOOKED.
>>343106565
In a 1v1 fight, Hog stomps Bastion. In a real match with 6v6, Hog will likely have taken damage before or during the time that Bastion sees him and opens fire, meaning that most of the time Bastion will take care of Hog.
Unless the Bastion is an absolute idiot who sets-up right next to a fucking choke point. But most Bastions are idiots who do just that, I'll concede that much.
>>343105653
Holy shit almost like every other tank!
It's amazing this shit needs to me said. Teamwork kills every character. I feel like all the complaints are coming from solo heroes that try to one man whole enemy teams.
>>343105105
the mile long hook wouldn't be an issue if it didn't keep pulling me through obstacles / walls each and every time
>>343106704
>Requiring 2-3 just to counter him looking at you menacingly
how horrible
Post your best stats
>>343105927
>Torb is getting nerfed
Can I get some salsa on this? He's one of my most played on PC and I really don't want him being even more shit than he already is.
>>343107232
>I feel like all the complaints are coming from solo heroes that try to one man whole enemy teams.
I feel like that's how 90% of /v/ plays this game, thinking they are going to be some lone wolf savior each match.
>>343107235
That's more of shitty hitbox and hitreg issues than anything to do with his hook.
Hooking people doesn't even consistently pull people to the same spot. I've had people land in front, to my left, my right and even behind me.
>>343107468
On console he's getting nerfed since console players feel like the turret is overpowered.
>>343107095
>Reaper
>Difficult to counter
Just pick Pharah or anything that can dish out damage at a distance and you're set. Wraith mode needs a tweak though (make him only able to heal through life orbs).
Pharah wrecks so much shit in this game it's ridiculous. If 76 and Widow (though I personally don't find her much of a threat) didn't counter her so hard she'd be the best character by far.
>>343107420
idk if it's good but it's the best i've got
>>343107581
>Only on consoles
Well that's welcome news. Thanks bub.
I don't think anyone needs a nerf. I would rather they buff heroes instead of hitting everyone with the nerfbat. Then it just turns in to a game of people crying about who is overpowered rather than looking at each hero individually and seeing what needs to be adjusted.
I would like to see buffs on Zenyatta and D.Va and see a rework on Symmetra and Mei. Everyone else is fine.
>get 70+ direct hits with pharrah every game and get a card for it that people are impressed with
is this hard? she shoots straight
>>343105143
WHAT IS REAPER, BASTION AND ZEN
>his heal has a lower cooldown than Widowmaker's grappling hook
>he can chug it down mid-fight and walk away free
>>343104512
>nerf all the playurz that killd me :^(
Roadhogs hook is actually hitscan, that's the only reason it looks like it has weird detection.
If you're aiming at someone the exact moment you hit the shift key, the hook has already "hit" it's target, it just plays an animation before it pulls them back. This sometimes results in them running around a corner just as they're hooked and being pulled through a wall.
I once hooked a tracer on the exact frame that she blinked, so even though my hook was aimed at where she was BEFORE the blink, the hook teleported to her position AFTER the blink, because I had already "hit" her with the hook BEFORE she blinked.
Who else /wholehog/ here?
>>343107731
>get 4 gold medals as pharah
>get a direct hits card
REEEEEE
>>343105105
>be OP
>playing overwatch
>get killed by Junkrat
>get salty
>make a thread on /v/
>>343107143
>what is google image search
>>343107589
In all fairness, if you don't know how 99% of people play Reaper, her seems really unpredictable and can be a major pain in the ass.
>Mei is useless against him unless his wraith-form is on cooldown
>He can pick off Tracer unless she has very good awareness of her surroundings
>Soldier dies in about three shots from him
>He ruins snipers
Again, not saying that he is OP, just that people don't seem to grasp how to handle him and that can lead to some frustration.
He's a surprisingly useful character.
>>343107881
They really need to rework the whole card system in general. If I get 5 gold medals as Zenyatta and my card is "746 transcendence healing" then something is fucking wrong.
>>343107731
I mean if I play Pharah and get 40 eliminations the game is more impressed with my rocket accuracy than eliminations then that's fine.
Same goes for Roadhog and his hook accuracy or Bastion and damage done.
Or D.va and her mech usages.
>>343106227
As much as I'd like to believe that, it simply isn't true. I've had a couple of instances now where a Roadhog has pulled me through a wall and halfway through the game realizes that he's trying to pull me through a solid wall and teleports me back to the other side. I've also had it happen where Roadhog shoots out his hook while standing on top of an object that would otherwise block his line of fire and then fall off the object - the game will still pull you in, even though at that point Roadhog would be reeling in his hook through a solid object (though it will usually stop you at the solid object instead of pulling you through it).
>>343107819
>he can chug it down mid-fight and walk away free
Bull.
Shit.
If he is taking damage already, his heal only pushes back his inevitable death by a few seconds.
>>343107589
Because of Reapers health Pharah needs to get atleast a few good hits and because of the delay a good Reaper should wraithform away to saftey
But I hear you, Pharah is really good from afar and if you run into her point blank in a room she'll wreck most heroes aswell.
>>343107965
Best flanker in the game imo, you can teleport from one building to another completely unseen and since his damage up close is so high things die before they can react.
HEROS NEVER DIE
HEROS NEVER DIE
HEROS NEVER DIE
HEROS NEVER DIE
HEROS NEVER DIE
All in under a fucking minute.
>>343108201
I agree 100%. He is so fucking sneaky. If you don't manage to kill with him, you will at least cause enough chaos to enable your team to get on the point.
>>343107095
>Zenyatta absolutly destroy Roadhogs its not even funny
Glad I'm not the only one who picked up on this.
>>343104512
No, you idiot, pendulums do not work that way, McRee and Windowlicker got nerfs, now it's time for a D.Va and Zenyatta buff.
>>343108376
I think it's Zen's pinpoint accuracy. He can pick away from a totally safe distance.
>>343108089
>be Genji
>pop ult
>slash through a Lucio or a Soldier or whatever
>go for Roadhog next
>slash him
>slash him again
>he starts chugging
>slash him
>slash him
>slash him
>die from his close range
Junkrat no doubt
>>343108476
He can also weaken him and assure that his recovery won't keep up with the incoming damage.
>>343108482
>Why can't I kill a close range tank by myself at close range?
He has a shotgun. Shotguns hurt when you are close. Don't get fucking close to him. His heal doesn't even heal 100% of his health, so you had to have missed a few of those slashes.
>>343108260
>try to push forward
>enemy mercy fucks off and waits for everyone to die
>HEROS NEVER DIE
>All those ults used to break their defense is wasted
>>343108686
Get your own heal slut
>>343108686
A half decent Mercy can change the tide of a game easily. She had okay damage as well, that pistol is no joke in capable hands.
But she is squishy as fuck. I would honestly say she is really balanced, and a team with 2+ Mercys seems horrifying, but she loses her usefulness as more of her stack up.
>>343108884
>I would honestly say she is really balanced, and a team with 2+ Mercys seems horrifying,
I had a game on Route 66 where they double Mercy'd at the final chokepoint and it was fucking awful. It was 7 minutes of them switching off rezzing each-other. It was impossible to fucking nuke both of them at once.
>>343104512
I didn't know balance meant needing everyone.
>>343109043
Soldier destroys her with his ult, which charges in no time. All her fancy flying can't save her from ULTRA AUTO AIM
>>343108654
In my stupor Ive tried to kill Roadhog several times with my ult. Now I just stay clear of him, not worth my time.
>doesnt heal for 100% hp
No but 50%? or 40% something like that
Genji ult does a maximum of 9x120, so yea if you dont straight up focus Roadhog you cant kill him.
>>343108686
>Play as Mercy on Hollywood defend mission
>Hear Junkrat activating his ult.
>Ally D.va flies to the closest building
>tag along with wings
>everyone else on my team dies
>mfw HEROES NEVER DIE
>mfw I get play of the game for it
>>343109043
Winston. His arc gun hits her + whoever she it tethered to. His ult can also quickly knock her away from those who need healing.
>>343107064
>>343104804
>not knowing about sensitivity
>>343108884
the res is the only reason you use her ass
because it nullifies ult spam
>>343109228
Genji's ult isn't meant to kill tanks you fucking weeaboo
shitters like you are why I lose hope the minute someone locks in genji
>>343106968
See, but I would assume that's because you know how to play those characters effectively, rather than front lining with genji.
>>343108482
>adds t.genjishitter by himself
Good job wasting your ult on the best CQC tank.
If he wasn't a retard you should've been hooked, or at the very least meatshot melee'd before getting 5 swings.
>>343107671
Torb is barely meta on PC our midget is safe.
>>343109418
>because it nullifies ult spam
I played a game once where there were three Mercys. We used our ults one after another, waiting to her the res go off each time.
Me and three others on our team got hate mail for that. Good times.
>>343107468
you cant read can you
fucking dumbass
you know junkrat and roadhog listen to motorhead and i think it's safe to say that 76 is an iggy pop man
what kind of jams do you figure the other heroes are down with
>>343108654
>missing a 120 degree cone with silly range
lol
>>343109438
I hate useless Genjis.
Now, when someone embraces his role (causing chaos and confusion on the point) he can be an amazing character.
Too bad so many see him and choose to embrace their inner faggot.
>>343104804
>takes that long to kill him
>meanwhile bastion taps him barely 3 times and takes away almost 200 health
>>343109438
i know its not supposed to, are you the one i replied to first? because my point wasnt to argue that Genji should be able to kill a Roadhog but a Roadhog can heal midfight effectively.
>>343104512
I'll agree junkrat needs a rework simply because this game's infinite ammo allows him to spam his grenades to a stupid degree. They need to balance him around spamming thos grenades
>>343107143
It's not porn and it has gotten pretty awful recently. Not worth your time.
>>343106368
>can hook almost everyone out of their ults
>including lucio
>>343109841
people go in with a retarded MUH RULES OF NATURE mentality and forget that genji is an elaborate tinfoil contraption held together with glue and zenyatta's care
>>343109824
Reaper listens to Slipknot and Disturbed then claims to "know what real metal is".
Mercy and Rein like classical music.
Tracer is probably a Beatles fan.
>Want to have some fun
>Get paired with shitters
>Lose, lose, lose
>End up angry
Why do I play multiplayer games again?
>>343107064
>not knowing PC players are just as shit
>>343109824
>roadhog and junkrat
>motorhead
>not acdc
Please.
>>343110125
>le reaper is edgy meme
These bands aren't edgy anymore in 2016, anon.
My bet is he listens to dark ambient, probably something from Atrium Carceri.
>>343110245
That's just sad.
>>343110092
He also feeds the enemy team ults far more than any other tank. A halfway decent reaper or Zen can destroy Roadhogs easy. Zarya also seems pretty effective against him in my experience.
>>343109478
apparently it's because you can't adjust your aim fast enough with joysticks.
>I suck and always lose to this class the thread
>>343110253
aight they're aussies you've got a point there
>>343110343
I wasn't saying they are edgy. I'm saying that Reaper seems to be the type to think that they are heavy and dark.
One of his voice lines is "I'm not a psychopath...I'm a high functioning psychopath."
Tell me that's not edgy as fuck.
>>343110245
>just as shit
>actually does damage
>attempts to change tactics when something's not working, even if it's the wrong choice
He may be shit but he has some functioning brain cells, unlike console players
>>343110125
maybe for fan interpretation reaper but for face value reaper i'm gonna call patrician dadrock, probably santana somewhere in there because he's latino
>>343110546
>attempts to change tactics when something's not working
How? He obviously believes the whole "transforming then back again is faster than reloading" myth.
That's all he was doing.
>>343110524
That's a line taken from Doctor Who, anon.
You're an idiot.
>>343110524
one of his voice lines is also
>I'M BACK IN BLACK
>>343110125
>tfw i actually like disturbed
>>343110768
>>343110695
Well then he's just a nerdy old dude trying to be hardcore.
That actually sounds closer to the character than my original thought of edgelord. Okay, you win.
>>343110395
>Hook zen
>he dies
>hook reaper
>he dies
I haven't been able to wraith out of being hooked consistently the window for it is extremely fucked.
Zarya is his counter though along with reinhardt.
Fuck off with your nerfs. It's always worse than buffing.
>>343111108
pretty much everyone can escape roadhog's hook if he can't aim properly
>>343109824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9km8qnbOY
related
>>343110768
Oh god.
He's your friend's dad, the one who was scary and kinda cool but always quoted classic rock songs as threats of violence or to seem cool.
>>343107870
based hog
>>343110043
>They need to balance him around spamming thos grenades
They did. It's extremely easy to avoid them unless you're literally running down a hallway toward them, the splash damage has a steep distance falloff to the point where you're fine if you're not in melee range of them, and they have a 3 second fuse so you have tons of time to walk around them. He's never OP in any situation.
>all these genji mcree and reaper faggots crying as I hook and eat them
How about you stop trying to solo a whole team by yourself. Roadhog destroys smaller characters if theyre bad at theyre game, luckily they are.
>>343111320
>if he can't aim properly
it's really not hard to hit with it, he has a god tier range and decent hitbox.
>>343110649
this is probably accurate, I play a lot of Reaper and I'm always listening to shit like Guns n Roses and Tom Petty
>>343111328
This game takes place 67 years in the future, if he listens to anything from our era it'd be shit like Mumford and Sons, or AWOL Nation. Be real he's not going to listen to 100 year old songs.
Rate me boys.
>>343112083
...show the rest of your stats
>>343107581
On console he is overpowered as shit. You'll note though that I actually abuse how broken his gun/shotgun are as well. Most people cant aim though and afk with him when his gun shits on everyone and with molten core up he can just go shit on roadhog 1v1 up close or walk through reinhardt shield and kill him easily. He can outsnipe snipers trying to kill the turret instead of repairing it too. Pharah goes down before she knows you are even hitting her with no bullet dmg drop off for some retarded reason.
Hes broken on so many levels, the turret is just icing on the cake. That said, most torbs are shit and set up the turret to die in bad spots and are useless without it. Even on console where turret instant locks and can kill a 200 hp target before they know whats happening.
>>343112568
You dont need to see his other stats to know hes shit. Just look who he plays. Hes only missing Hanzo in the shit pile.
>>343109824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvuf_hbXaSc&list=PLD61626F6813F6C5F&index=9
>>343112083
>>343112568
>>343112806
Here you go.
>>343104512
Nobody needs to be nerfed. D.Va and Zenyatta need buffs, but no one needs to be nerfed.
Mercy. Her ult charges too fucking fast.
>>343112032
>76 references Apocalypse Now (1979)
>Reaper references ACDC's BiB (1980)
>Zenyatta and Mondatta are literally Zenyatta Mondatta (1980)
>McCree references The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1967)
>Zarya references Rocky IV (1985)
we've got a very cultured cast thank you very much
>>343104512
>Nerf JunkratFIRE IN THE HOLE
>>343113640
>they're aware of the references they're making.
The references are for us, played straight like they've never been done before. Our cast aren't self aware and that's the joke.
They listen to future cyber shit and you know it.
Why do fps fags complain about everything and want everything nerfed?
leave the game alone
BUFF ZENYATTA NOW.
200 HEALTH, FASTER MOVESPEED AND HIGHER HEAL TICKS.
Just think.
We will never have online multiplayer video games that don't turn into nerf demands ever again.
It's never going to happen, that's all anyone cares about now. Past the initial like 2 weeks launch of an online multiplayer game, all discussion revolves around people crying about shit and nerfs.
So sick of it, seriously though.
>>343113954
fuck off no they don't this is MY HEADCANON NIGGER NOT YOURS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Junkrat needs to be fucking nerfed
theres no fucking excuse for giving a shitter with an infinite grenade launcher and immobilizing trap vertical mobility. not to mention that overpowered fucking trap can be combined with the mine to instantly kill you
>>343114131
They already buffed him by nerfing widow. Fuck off omnic scum.
>>343113954
bullshit dont lie to me
>>343107143
It's a fucking awful manga
When if my waifu getting her buff?
I still fail to see the why McCree was a character to be nerfed when this fat ass does the same thing + having 600 hp. When you see a roadhog who plays him properly and you get hooked by this nigger you are sure to be dead whoever you are. Tell me one character who will be able to do any counter play after getting hooked. I could think of a few tanks but after taking a hit like that I doubt there is much you can do.
Overall he is a damn fine character but I just feel that his hook+shot+meele is just like flash+m2 pre nerf. At least the if McCree flashed you around a corner he'd have to waste his roll or miss the chance but this fucking hook will round that corner and launch itself up your anal cavity. He missed it? Well go fight him kiddo! Now is your CHANCE! ah too bad. It took you 2 seconds to properly position yourself to fight him, you got some damage on him for 3 and he jumped a corner and healed for 1 second and now he unleashed his hook. Too bad lad. You were on his screen when he pressed Shift and now you are dead. 6 fucking seconds for this shit.
The only thing McCree had over this bullshittery was that his flash was AOE and he could fan the hammer twice for sick damage but the hitbox of the hook is so insane they might aswell call it an AOE and in the time it took to wait for McRees combo this nigger gets two off anyway and not only this, he can highfive widowmaked right after he one hit your sorry ass because thats the range of the fucking hook.
Sure shitter roadhogs are all fun, games and free ult charge but once you start meeting people who played this shitlord for more than 5 hours you literally sit there spamming your defensive. By the way. This is 20 tick kiddo and the hook has a stun to it. You ain't making it in time.
would you help him scratch his butt, /v/
>>343116362
The games netcode is so fucked I've hooked+point blank crit+melee'd a tracer who then survived and escaped with 50% of her HP.
That being said hooking is way harder than you make it out to be.
>>343104512
No, he needs a buff if anything. He just seems especially good right now since you actually need to be half-decent to play McCree after the nerfs.
As for legit balance changes that would make the game better:
- Widowmaker's health reduced to 150
- Reaper's teleport cast time reduced by 50%
- Mei buff of some sort (this is the true pleb test: if you don't think she needs a buff you are a shitter, if you think she needs a nerf you are an ultra shitter)
- Dva damage increase
- Mercy ult build time increased
>>343110125
>tfw listening to Duality and playing reaper at the same time
It's perfect
>I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EYES!!!!!!
>DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE
>>343116362
Roadhog is only good for building enemy Ult, he's a mediocre pusher, with no mobility buffs. He's alright for shitter teams, but no comp teams run a Roadhog because he counters himself with enemy ults.
>>343109824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvG5_AUDh4o
>>343116362
>mfw greasypigman's hook is less than 10 seconds
>mfw low risk, if he misses whatever he'll go around a corner heal up and wait it out, nobody but the dumbest and ballsiest will get in his business with a fucking shotgun and 600 health
>mfw if he lands it you are almost guaranteed dead
>>343111108
reinhardt is not his counter. It's the opposite
>>343116761
>Mei buff
I disagree, I believe she needs a tweak or rework of her abilities, because as she is right now, when she's good she's amazing, but most of the time she's fucking useless. I think they should change her freeze, make it similar to Winter Wyvern's:
Cryo Freeze: Can be cast on allies. No longer makes target invulnerable, but the affected unit is considered to have Armor for the duration. Heals 300 hp. Duration unchanged at 4s. 15s cd.
This change would make her much more useful in general for helping her teammates, while removing her annoying ability to become completely invulnerable during key moments which is the source of most of the hatred towards her.
>>343117805
Reinhardt vs hog can go either way depending on cds and how they are used
>>343117805
Even if you hook, shotgun and melee Rein, Rein can immediately charge, fire strike and hammer swing until Roadhog is dead before Roadhog can finish Rein off.
>D.va
Boosters cooldown reduced to 4 seconds
+ 25 armor
>Symmetra
Teleporter grants 25 shields upon use, lasts until death. Stacks with her Photon Shield ability.
>Torbjorn
Turret's laser targeting sight is only visible to Torb and his allies.
>Mercy
Ult charge rate via healing reduced by 10%
Now that competitive is out is everyone going to quit playing regular matches?
I want the mean people to go there and the relaxed people to stay.
>>343106415
Fuck off. OW is very balanced atm, but playing every game against something which is way to strong takes away a lot of fun.
Remember 6 pools in SC1 without choke or Meta knight in brawl? Just look the the Total War meta: killing your hero before the battle even starts. What fun!
>>343118369
>>343118237
wrong. You do all that and roadhog still lives. He heals, and you die in 3 headshots. Rein will never win against roadhog 1vs1. A good roadhog will always go after a rein and headshot him because he knows he'll always win.
>>343118597
>6 pools in SC1 without choke
I doubt most people here actually played SC1 back then, anon.
Honestly after the McCree/Widow nerf, i'd say the game is perfectly balanced aside from shitty hitboxes. Rather than nerfs, buffs should be in order for D.va's damage and maybe Zenyatta's buff/debuff timer increase. That's all I can think of.
>>343107215
Amen. With Bastion you can sit back at a good distance most of the time, or inside a group and kill the fuck out of Roadhogs without worrying. He's one of the last chars I worry about with Bastion.
>>343104512
>Every team I have has a Genji and Hanzo
We are fucking attacking Hanzo and you're shit Genji stop walking around with the rest of the team
Everyone complains about D.va's lack of damage but my biggest issue is she is completely fucking useless when res'd by Mercy.
>>343118742
Nigga lets break this down. Charge and pin does 300 damage plus the stun on top of 120 flame strike so that equals 420 damage, He can keep swining his hammer either killing the hog or forcing him to heal. Forcing him to heal gives Reinhardt time to finish building up his ult or let him walk away and pop his shield up and get healed/helped.
I Demand weekly Bastion nerfs until he actively heals the enemy.
>>343119125
>Forcing him to heal gives Reinhardt time to finish building up his ult or let him walk away and pop his shield up and get healed/helped.
that's where you're wrong. His shotgun can go mthrough your shield if he's close enough. His heal is 300. If he's at 180 health after all that and heals, he's back at fucking 480. Roadhog will just press w and shoot through your shield. Again, rein doesnt win.
source: pic related, almost 2 weeks ago.
>>343106182
not only that but he feeds enemy ults like nothing.
having a Tracer go toe to toe with a Roadhog means that she'll have her grenade up in like 20 seconds to blast him and the rest of his team away
>>343119054
D va deals enough damage and if she gets movement speed while shooting buff nothing will stop her. She doesn't even reload I think people who play D.VA and say she needs to be buffed other then fixing her critbox are shitters
>>343119593
Not him, but if you have 2000 damage to block you can hold out until Roadhog trys to reload then charge him again I doubt the pic is even you time stamp
>play mei
>fatman throws hook
>build my wall
>get pulled through wall
>>343119593
He can't melt the shield in one clip and by the time he heals and empty his ammo charge is off cd to do it again, this is why I said it is 50/50 you dumb motherfucker.
>>343119837
>Not him, but if you have 2000 damage to block you can hold out until Roadhog trys to reload then charge him again I doubt the pic is even you time stamp
Do you even play the game?
>His shotgun can go mthrough your shield if he's close enough
>Roadhog will just press w and shoot through your shield
Either you don't play the game or you're at some shit mmr where people still dont know how to play.
>>343119054
There's not much they can do about that. Can't resurrect a mech.
>>343119903
>Favor le shooter the ice wall wasn't there for him :^)
>>343119951
you dumb mother fucker he can shoot through your shielf if he's close. You're just another lvl 50 scrub, holy shit.
Just discovered howfunforgotten waif symmetra is on defence.
Guranteed 30+ elims on temple of anubis
I think meis ice spike is a little overkill
Junkrat should have his ult charge a bit slower
Torbs turret lockon is a tad fast but im on pc so idc
Reaper dhouldnt be ale to harvest souls when in his invuln form. Such a pain with 250hp
>>343119983
>press W threw your shield
>pressing the movement key threw the shield
Do you even play
>>343120079
It only goes past the shield if his barrel is right in your face at this point why the fuck are you holding your shield?
The fact that Junkrat's mine can clip through a wall and damage you is a massive issue
>>343120198
>It only goes past the shield if his barrel is right in your face at this point why the fuck are you holding your shield?
That's what you're implying scrub. Im telling you, rein dies. At this point, you die. Gun go through rein's shield if they're right on you. The gun extends past the player's body, and rein's shield starts at his hand, not his face. His hand is slightly further than his face. Even if you swing. Play the fucking game first. Git gud
>>343119125
I have never seen a rain beat a roadhog if both of them happen to see eachother alone and with full hp on a cloudy friday night. Best choice for rein would be to keep that shield up and walk away backwards. pity the fool if he tries to make a move on bigpig but chances are that he will walk up to rains slow backpeddaling ass and walk though the shield and blow him apart. Even if rein uses everthing BUT his ult bigpig will survive with 180 hp and he will heal back up to 480. This is where biggupiggu blasts your as and if he is kind enough he might even hook you just to be a cunt. At that range he doesn't need to hook you tho. The best a reinhardt can hope for against a semi decent hog is that rein uses all his abilities and then runs back to mercy to cry for heals although he is a lucky one of he is able to run.
>>343120198
you can walk through reinhardts shield, lol
>>343114131
zen is all about battlefield awareness and placement within your team, git gud
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>>343105927
>Playing shooters on consoles
>>343109943
desu, the midfight vape is just ridiculous sometimes, it's what makes you pretty much unkillable 1on1, they should half the regen rate when you get fire upon or something like that. or interrupt it like bastion
>>343120194
>pick winston
>fuck up all her turrets at once
>get first point before her tp is charged
>>343109824
We already know Rein listens to Hasselhoff. Probably likes other 80's music, too.
>>343116362
>Tell me one character who will be able to do any counter play after getting hooked.
D.va
>>343105898
What happens is
>Roadhog hits you with a hook on his screen
>His computer reports this to the server because favor the shooter
>Server applies the 'hooked' tag and let's the victim know
>In the 0.3 seconds since you've gone around a corner, you get pulled anyway because roadhog got you before then
Same as going around a corner and getting sniped by a guy not in your LoS anymore
>>343105898
unlikely, they would need to fix the shitty tickrate for that and they think it's good design to have a comp shooter running on 20 tick.
>>343116362
the hook has a travel time.
the flashbang is gay and you literally cannot react to it.
also, the combo doesn't necessarily instagib you if you're reaper or somebody like that.
who wants to go to hot topic
after we can go see disturbed
>>343121396
I have yet to see any Roadhog actually accomplish much more than simply keeping himself alive for the duration of it and die as soon as he finishes, since everyone will instantly unload into his head as soon as he starts huffing, which pretty much nullifies the heal and gives whoever shooting at him a nice extra 300 damage towards their ult.
>playing Roadhog
>dominating pretty hard
>turn a corner
>HOOKED
>get double roadhog gang banged
It was actually kinda cute, we still won the game easily though.
All those sweaty piggy men
>>343117000
roadhog+zarya is breddy gud
she can basically press e on him and get 50 charge from it every time
also their ults synergize.
>>343122447
As far as Zarya Ult synergies I'd say ol' roadie is one of the weaker choices, his ult's push is so good it can actually have the effect of pushing people out of it and there is no guaranteed kill. Phara, junker, and Hanzo all synergize much better.
>>343104512
holy shit
there's a pig on his belly
>playing roadhog on defense
>enemy team and my team constantly fighting
>they get to the last checkpoint
>realize something
>sit my fatass in front of the payload
>war is erupting around me
>but no one is trying to move me
>the game is apparently team death match
>eventually enemy Lucio keeps dancing around the payload trying to kill me but I can heal off all his damage
I sat in one spot for like 2 full minutes, occasionally hooking someone who got to close.
It was actually hilarious.
I swear at one point a group of them with spawn camping up ahead but I still had the payload at the last checkpoint.
>>343110125
>Mercy and Rein like classical music.
Reinhardt has several lines where he talks about David Hasselhoff's music
Shrink Hanzos arrow hitbox, it's way too fucking generous.
Reaper. I just got facerolled for 4 games by some mariachi Reaper faggot who kept on making skeleton puns after he Q'd my entire team into the ground.
Reduce his fucking damage or just take away his headshots. We went all winston in the last second and that reaper fucking killed us all on his own.
>>343119125
The charge and pin only happens if the Roadhog doesn't save his hook for that. Reinhardt cannot dodge the hook at all if he's charging. If Rein can't get the charge off he loses every single time, and if he does get it off it's still a very uphill battle
>Single target disrupter and burst damage dealer makes people salty in yet another team based game
pubfags, when will they ever learn?
>>343104512
If Blizzard hadn't been patience and calm and listened to people like this for characters like Bastion the game would have been an unbalanced shit show.
would you a fem roadhog /v/?
>>343122981
you constructed this as a joke.
>>343122981
I understand their logic in giving Reaper 250 health since he needs to be up close to deal damage, but 250 health plus self-heal after every kill plus being able to wraith to the nearest healthpack is too much. Lower his health to 200 and only generate orbs if he gets credit for the elimination.
>>343123387
ye
I'd a non-fem roadhog too tbphwy
>>343122850
this, that shit is fucking stupid
What are some tips for Zenyatta? I really like using him over Mercy, but I also am not the best.
>>343123698
Use Lucio instead, your team will thank you.
>>343107965
Then what do you do? I'm a player that can't seem to get good against him.
They need to buff Zarya is that you cannot use abilities or ultimates when trapped in the Graviton Bomb.
>>343123698
Stay behind someone, preferably a tank. Harmony anyone that needs healing that will stay in your line of sight. Discord the most threatening enemies first and wail away on them. Never use the charge fire because it's useless.
>>343122351
the thing is, you need to get through the 600 base hp first, so many chars are running out of gas quickly in a 1on1
>>343123698
Zenyatta is quite literally the weakest hero in the game.
His damage is ok. His heal is "ok". His discord orb is extremely powerful. his ult is lackluster.
He has the lowest health in the game, tracer can warp and self heal, doesn't count. Mercy has a bullshit health = shield, zenyatta has to actually pick up health packs for his meager hp that aren't shields.
lucio and mercy are highly mobile
zenyatta has less health and is less mobile and must maintain LoS to use any abilities, lucio and mercy do not.
maximum
garbage
>>343122850
WHAT A FUCKING HEADSHOT GET OUTSKILLED SON
>>343113954
Reinhardt literally says Night Rider is Hasslehoff's best Album
How do I git gud at Genji?
I'm not a psychopath... I'm a high functioning psychopath.
>>343105927
tjorb shouldn't exist, at all
Why can't we leave this fucking game alone? It was already balanced. Now you got gengis running around killing everything in 1 to 2 hits. Fucking retarded. No asian could ever kill anything in 1 to 2 hits.
Is anyone else here a support main?
>>343116469
>scratch
I'd do something to it but scratch wouldn't be the operative word
>>343124251
Hit and run whenever possible. Jump around all over the place spamming shurikens. Learn how to aim. Use alt fire if there's a target in close. Only deflect if you know they're shooting at you because you're a sitting duck otherwise. Remember you need to still aim with deflect. Only use swift strike if you know 100% that you'll kill someone with it. Don't use your ult unless someone else is and you can sync to do a quick team kill.
>>343112663
Hes not overpowered at all, people on console are just shit and dont want to adapt. they just want to play shit like genji and run around getting kills
>win 2/3 rounds on Lijang
>all but one of the enemy team ragequits
nice
>>343124424
I play them a fair bit but don't limit myself to them. Don't main only support, you are limiting your enjoyment.
>>343104512
>>343105247
lol roadhog sucks the only character who might need a nerf is zarya and maybe lucio but I feel like res is good enough to keep him where he is after the beta dps nerf
>>343124819
>on the defense
>with absolutely no warning, 4/6 of the team just leaves right after the enemy gates open
Why does this keep happening.
>>343124819
mass winstons would fuck that team up
Bastion needs an overheat function
There's currently no downside to just sitting there in turret mode, aside from being vulnerable to flanking, which isn't always possible
>>343125087
They changed to Genji for fun after the other team just left
>>343124976
Blame Blizzard, those people are disconnecting.
