ITT: Franchises with an identity crisis.
Starting with the most obvious example.
but op, each paper mario sold more than its predecessor
are you fucking retarded?
>>343079434
franchises that make drastic changes with each entrry, not on death's door dumbass.
>>343079434
Can you please stop forcing your OC shit and theses threads?
Resident Evil.
>>343079434
>being this retarded
>>343078073
that's why they want sticker star to be the new standard, silly.
>>343079684
??????
>>343080431
Can you please stop repeating what almost everyone already knows?
Can you at least look at catalog before creating another thread?
Can you please realize that you're doing nothing but shitposting?
>>343080718
This isn't a thread about Color Shit though just games in a similar state to it
Did you just glance at OP's image and jump to conclusions by acting like the shitposter you hate so much?
Final Fantasy.
Seriously, what the fuck.
Just give me back materia.
>>343081675
this
Also, Sonic.The execution was shit, but I liked the story concept of the Sonic Storybook series
Just pick a system and improve it.
I can't stand all these fucking ch-ch-ch-CHANGES
>>343081675
You mean the thing that was only in 1 game?
Do I win the thread?
>>343082189
VI on the GBA had the Esper system which i feel was better due to allowing some customization from the stat bonuses it gave as well as being able to actually learn the spells.
>>343082276
I came here to post this.
>>343082189
Exactly.
It was a good mix of stat altering, action skills, and magic, without being crowded, and you could pick what you wanted.
>>343082474
Esper system was garbage because Magic was OP as shit, you could only summon an esper once, and the stat altering is idiotic because it implores you to anti-grind until you get the really good espers.
>>343082763
>because Magic was OP as shit,
You mean like in every FF game?
>>343082276
Im not going to lie, instanced PVP fucked this game so hard, it was a slow fuck though, first just the tip with BGs turning the honor system into a full blown grind where before you had to actually hunt for your honor kills and avoid Dishonor kills (This made SS/TM zerging inefficient for honor ranking incase some people didn't know)
Then arenas full thrusted into full force and pissed everywhere with its 'balance' around 2v2 or 3v3 arenas, in a MMORPG, the genre that defines itself by having more players in the same realm space then a fucking match of Counter Strike.
At least the PVE was good until Wrath, Dungeon Finder was a mistake.
>>343082984
Uh, no.
>>343082276
>Hey what can you do in this MMORPG?
>You can grind solo until you hit 110
>Then you solo queue into dungeons until you have enough ilvl and your legendary McGuffin Ring or Cape to get into a 'proper' guild who is stuck on heroic babby mode of the latest raid you've already done a hundred times over
>>343082984
Unless you count enemy skill, FF7's magic was pretty balanced.
>>343082613
>Identity crisis.
>Bring back thing that was in only one game.
You're a special kind of stupid.
>>343083253
>FFV
>magic not good
Did you only use time mages or something?
>Identity crisis
Not really
They were done after TTYD
They were satisfied
So they simply wanted to experiment
Super Paper Mario Atleast had the effort and high quality the series is known for
Sticker Star is a redo to see if they can emphasis the paper aspect so it can live up to the actual name
>>343083702
I said OP, as in OVERPOWERED, not "good".
Magic is almost always good in FF, but not always overpowered.
>>343083821
>Super Paper Mario had effort and high quality
No it didn't.
You just wanted to fuck that green square with pigtails.
>>343083702
but time mages had quick, they were literally the most OP mage
>>343079609
It's a fucking RPG, of course not too many people are gonna say the story is a plus. Story is a necessity for RPGs. That's like praising a Mario game for being able to jump. How fucking retarded could they have been.
>nobody mentions the story cause nobody had any problems with it
>Nintendo takes this as 'everyone hated the story'
>instead of "fixing" this by improving upon the story, they just outright remove it.
Star Fox still suffers from this, unfortunately.
Instead of following Star Fox 64's formula to the letter, Zero channels the worst aspects of both Assault and Command with the Walker and excessive use of All-Range mode.
>>343084032
And meteor. And even comet, which was alright for when you got it.
Plus gravity, but
>gravity
I hope color splash lets you buy paint upgrades so there's a reason to fight enemies.
>>343085028
I hope bossfights are more than just obvious puzzles
>>343085028
>I hope color splash lets you buy paint upgrades so there's a reason to fight enemies.
The E3 demo footage showed enemies drop little cardboard hammers that fill up a gauge that increases up your maximum paint capacity.
>>343078073
Metroid
It turns out that splitting an niche IP between two groups that never interact with each other was actually a really bad idea, and one that causes serious problems when both groups stop making games simultaneously!
>>343085650
As shown by the koopaling battle, they now deal more than 90% of your HP of damage, which means this time you are FORCED to use the thing stuff.
>>343079434
Paper Mario TTYD almost sold as much as Sticker Star despite being on a platform with 10% of the sales.
>>343085846
>Fight to level up hammer so you can fight and get paint.
How about not fighting then? You won't spend paint if you don't fight. You just need the thing cards to defeat bosses.
>>343086943
Oh, you want a new sidescroller on your portable? Too bad, have a multiplayer shooter and a pinball game instead.
What's that? You want another first person game for consoles? Well fuck you, you'll take this weird vanity project from the 2d people and you'll like it.
Man how come Metroid doesn't sell?
>>343087114
> they now deal more than 90% of your HP of damage
That isn't a big deal now. As of Sticker Star blocking halves the damage you take and your HP can get pretty high it seems.
>>343087349
>How about not fighting then? You won't spend paint if you don't fight. You just need the thing cards to defeat bosses.
The first boss fight showed you had to use the Thing Sticker at a very specific point in the fight which means you'll have to use up attacks and paint to get to that point.
Plus if the game is like Sticker Star the final boss will be a marathon of a fight with no real weakness and have like 5 phases. If you run out of paint during the final boss all your attacks will do shitty damage and we already know the bosses hit hard.
So what I'm getting here is that Nintendo games are the ones with identity crises.
>>343083972
The OST and story were fucking great, mang. It was just the general combat was bad. Even to some extent, the platforming was fun.
>>343087826
I know, we'd still have to see just how robust the leveling would be. You can still attack without painting I think? The paint just makes the attacks stronger.
>>343087968
Their identities are just fine. They're casual games for casual gamers. Always have been and always will be.
this still makes me sad
>>343079609
>"attach rate"
What's the fucking point of this term? Obviously nintendo doesn't give a fuck, what matters to them is the initial sale. You're better off just pointing out metacritic scores.
>>343088402
This is what Sam would have been like from day 1 if Micheal Ironside didn't demand rewrites.
>>343087349
People have a misconception of how shit works
You don't use a sticker and automatically win
You have to know when to use it and survive as ass whipping until that point
This is how you can tell people only listen to the shitposting
Also the games goal needs paint to get %100
>>343088245
>I know, we'd still have to see just how robust the leveling would be. You can still attack without painting I think? The paint just makes the attacks stronger.
Yeah that's what they said, however we haven't seen them not paint the cards so far so the difference between a painted and unpainted card isn't known.
>>343081675
Final Fantasy
give me back my job system
