https://twitter.com/MoreYamasan/status/747663551125426176
Could they not fuck up this time?
>NG related
>it's a mobile game
>>343053913
Cool, more games to the pachinko collection
The only good modern Ninja Gaiden Game was the first one. NG2 while still above average was the first step to casualization
>>343054348
>NG2
>Casualized
explain
>>343054462
he can't because he probably just played the PS3 downgrade if at all
>>343053913
>Yaiba gets a sequel
Really though, the core of Team Ninja probably won't start anything solid until they've finished Nioh, which is about 70% done as of a few weeks ago.
just play Metroid: Other M if you want NG4 :)
>>343053913
>this time
Razor's Edge exists, make NG3 great
Oh my god yes, please be real, I'm already crying
PLEASE
But can TM even really work on NiOH and NG4 at the same time?
Warm memories of playing Ninja Gaiden Black and getting destroyed by the first fucking boss. Having to get gud. Getting gud and finally finishing. That sense of achievement. Would love to see a well done 4 but I honestly just don't expect good games these days. The 2nd was alright, the 3rd was mediocre, and yaiba was fun but broken and repetetive. One can only hope.
>>343053913
Team Ninja's output lately has actually been surprisingly good and after how poorly received NG3 was I imagine there's a willingness to improve. What's more is that a lot of devs seem much more willing to make challenging games nowadays so maybe it won't be casualized.
>not an xbox exclusive
>original director that made the first 2 great is gone
>will be pandered and dumbed down for autistic sonyggers who play shitty visual novel anime crap and movie games all day
who the fuck cares? these games are complete shit when theyre not xbox exclusives.
>>343053913
Make female characters playable from the get go
>>343057438
>>343053913
should be a new NG for mobile, not even joking
>>343057590
cry more little bitch. the last good ninja gaiden was 2 on 360. no amount of tears and epic reddit tier downvote images will change that.
>>343057645
That literally doesn't make sense
>>343057693
>muh original broken literally explosive experience
>RE doesn't exist
So edgy.
>>343057984
RE is just as broken as 3 though
Adding whipped cream to a pile of horseshit doesn't make it taste better faggot
>>343057984
it exists and is nowhere near as good as 2. i dont even know why im bothering with an underage anime game playing sonygger. ive been playing ninja gaiden since before you were born and 2 on the 360 was the last good ng game.
>>343057984
RE is trash, faggot.
>>343058172
Fuck off cancer normie
>>343058172
>implying NG isn't underage anime game
Delusions
>>343057984
>RE is a good game
If you don't want a new game then good for you, get out.
>>343054348
>muh epic hard
Will there ever be a thread that isn't shitposted to death by autists?
>>343059097
No. Let this thread sink.
Just remaster Black and 2 1:1 for Cbone and W10 and call it a day
>>343059259
better yet: make original xbox fully emulatable and make 2 bc
>>343059259
If they do, they'll do it for Ps4 with all the waifu added and expanded
Not for the normiebox
>>343059259They lost the code of both.
>>343053913
>Related to Ninja Gaiden
Yeah it's a mobile game or Zaiba 2 or something equally disappointing.
>>343059323
>re-remastering Sigma
Dropped. Even DmC DE is better than the sigma versions
>>343059338
Wow, Team Ninja really is useless without Oatmeal Cookie, their most interesting title since NG2 borrows looter RPGs and Dark Souls.
>>343059528
And NG borrows from DMC
Oatmeal is also an hack
NINJA GAIDEN TRILOGY PC ABD CURRENT GEN PORT
DO IT
DOOOOO IIIIIIIT
>>343059631
sure, hope you like ports of Sigma +, Sigma 2 + and 3RE for the fucking WiiU on PC
>>343059584
DMC is score based with non-threatening enemies, Ninja Gaiden was always about hardass common grunts that cleave your asshole in two and unrelenting bosses.
Ni-Oh borrows more from other sources than NG borrowed from DMC
>>343059338
>They lost the code of both.
You're fucking kidding right?
Didn't Kingdom Hearts have the exact same issue? Why the fuck don't you keep the sourcecode you stupid gooks?
>Related
Key word there, do not expect anything good.
>Shinobi will never be given another chance
;_;
>>343059760
>with non-threatening enemies
This wasn't intentional
why are the sigma versions worse than the originals? only played one on xbox
Just accept Oatmeal Cookie back into Team Ninja
Without him the Ninja Gaiden games suck
And his games suck even more without Team Ninja
>>343059338
>>343059773
Can't they just remaster it again to make it similar to the original instead of ezmode Sigma?
>>343059584
>And NG borrows from DMC
barely
NG has auto lock-on vs manual in DMC
dial-a-combo instead of command shortcuts
sucking in orbs and instant on-land OT are not a thing in DMC
>>343059853
Shinobi deserves another chance, this and NG were my jam 6th gen.
>>343059873
loading time is awful compared to the original for both
Sigma 1 adds an OP weapon
Sigma 2 neuters pretty much everything that made vanilla 2 visceral and fun
Sigma 2 will sometimes run worse than vanilla 2
both feature playable Team Ninja waifus that people either don't care for or just abominate outrightAyane chapter is irredemably awful
>>343059853
Well it's getting a movie so Shinobi has not been completely forgotten.
>>343057438
>>343057693
Did you even play the Nioh demo? Team Ninja is still capable of making great games.
>>343060043
They're actually making a Shinobi movie in 2016? Damn, they're only 25 years too late.
>>343060171
were talking about ninja gaiden, not team ninja as a whole. i dont give a fuck about dark souls or some cheap knockoffs either. those games are clunky and boring as fuck.
>>343059989
That looks familliar
NiOh has soft lock-on to fight multiple enemies vs Dark Soul's focus on 1vs1
NiOh has an extensive amount of moves vs simple Dark Soul moves
NiOH let's you have as much Stamina as you need as long you're good vs Dark Soul's stamina being fixed
>>343060171
They neutered a lot according to the patch notes.
I was most impressed with the ability to choose weather I wanted 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps. That should be an industry standard, though I guess now it will be 4K 30fps or 1080p 45fps lel
>>343059760
Ninja Gaiden's draw was not the difficulty, you complete retard.
>>343060427
Uh yeah it was? Since the NES days it's always been the challenge of those games that's the draw.
After 3/RE I have no hope for the series post-Itagaki.
>>343060015
Some of these shouldn't be listed since they either aren't problems or are subjected.
>>343060336
> NiOh has an extensive amount of moves vs simple Dark Soul moves
Ninja Gaiden doesn't have nessecarily MORE moves than DMC, it's just light-heavy hits on longer attack string vs. DMC button layout
>>343060015
>>343060901
Subjective, even!
>>343060575
>comparing NES NG to modern NG
>>343060968
But they've always been known for their brutal difficulty as a whole.
If it was that, then what was the appeal of the series, anon?
>>343061189
Fun and smooth combat, the core gameplay.
>>343060901
>are subjected
you're retarded
Sigma titles need to load when you open a fucking chest to get an item.
Compare the time switching a fucking weapon mid combat and you can see that there it takes longer
>>343056687
are there any half naked ladies?
>>343061251
Ok, I did overlook that because I just felt good action games were a given in 6th-pre-Arkham Asylum 7th gen.
>>343061443
There were a lot of good ones but you'd get some real pieces of shit like Drakengard.
>>343061426
I corrected my post, thanks for conveniently ignoring that, my friend.
I said some of those as well, as in some are legitimate flaws.
please don't be a western reboot
>>343061631
>nG: Ninja Gaiden
My name by the way, is Ryu! But you can call me Ryu the Master Ninja. Has a nice ring to it don'tcha think?
>>343061560
Drakengard and all it's sequels/spinoffs are legitimate shit. But somehow a damn fun experience. Except 2 of course
>tfw want to play Ninja Gaiden but don't want to play on a 360 or ps3
>>343059338
>Not using version control
I know this is shit from the early-to-mid 2000s, but holy fuck, man. Why. Just fucking why would you not back that shit up when it's literally your livelihood?
>>343061949
play Razor's Edge on WiiU
>>343061949
Well, there's the Plus games on Vita.
Not exactly the best versions, mind you.
Not sure how good Xbox original emulation is, but if you can manage it, definitely play NGB.
I actually really enjoyed 3. Haven't played any others yet but I feel like from how people talk the fanbase literally has autism if they can't handle a few minor changed to the sigma releases.
>>343063017
OG Xbox emulation is practically non-existent.
>>343062770
I have, but everyone says 1 and 2 are still way better.
>>343063073
>Haven't played any others yet
Well then go and play them instead of forming uninformed opinions. I don't hate the Sigma games and Razor's Edge is pretty good fun, but spouting generalisations when you haven't even played the rest of the games makes you sound like a pillock. Sorry.
>>343063226
Welp, that fucking sucks. Can you at least get an OG Xbox + NGB for cheap?
>>343063408
Yeah, NG and NGB sold very well (With Black subsequently being reissued in the "Xbox Classics" range; actually in Europe and Australia/New Zealand, this was the only version released) , so copies on eBay are worth practically nothing.
>>343063348
They are. Can you really not get a 360 for cheap? Or at least an original Xbox?
>>343056940
Nioh's almost done and will probably release in autumn, so they're probably at least doing initial stage stuff for their next big game at this point. If they announce NG4 in July, we might even get a short teaser or at least a title and some concept art.
>>343064536
>60% done two weeks ago
>almost done
Nah.
>>343063073
>a few minor changed to the sigma releases
said changes are significant enough to reduce the stuff you could dolowered enemy count, retardedly increased enemy health, significantly lower delimb chance, no incendiary shuriken/windmill shuriken/projectile UT, grab attacks that will almost insta kill you in Master Ninja, and much less aggressive AI in sigma 2
are extra content that are FORCED, never optionalRachel chapters in sigma 1, waifu chapters in sigma 2
fucking retard
Any Ninja Gaiden autists able to sort something out for me?
Any fucking time I ask for recommendations on whether or not Sigma and Sigma 2 are any good, everyone just starts arguing about the differences between them and the original, and Black. I just want to know which fucking game to play.
>>343059853
>he didn't buy the best action game on 3DS
>>343064769
Black is generally considered to be superior to Sigma, but Sigma is still an acceptable substitute if you don't have access to an OG Xbox. Vanilla 2 is pretty much outright better than Sigma 2, though again, Sigma 2 is better than not playing the game at all.
No idea on how the Vita ports of Sigma and Sigma 2 are though, so can't help you there, sorry.
>>343064793
I would've, if I even knew it existed! Thank you, anon.
>>343064973
So essentially :
Black > Sigma > 2 > Sigma 2 > shitting into a bucket > 3
>>343064973
>Sigma is still an acceptable substitute if you don't have access to an OG Xbox
Or if you don't have a 360. The digital version's load times are fucking fast, and backwards compatibility is fine.
>No idea on how the Vita ports of Sigma and Sigma 2 are though, so can't help you there, sorry.
The bow controls for Sigma Plus are an absolute nightmare, they make the tank + helicopter chapter almost unplayable. Other than that it's servicable.
>>343065284
Razor's Edge is a fun action game, so long as you don't think of it being an NG game. There's no real reason to play vanilla 3 though.
>>343063408
>>343064716
Good to know but I wasn't criticising the games just the audience. Thanks for further proving my argument.
>>343059631
No Team Ninja hates PC and will never port anything because of what about to DoA5
>>343065284
Vanilla 3 is awful, but RE cleaned up a lot of the problems and is worth getting, since it's dirt cheap now.Though it's still the weakest by quite a considerable margin.
Yaiba has some cool character designs and neat art direction going for it (Which were done by Inafune), but not a whole lot else. Again, it cheap as chips, so I'd say it's worth picking up for five-ten bucks, honestly.
>>343065298
Did they try and bind the bow controls to the touchpad or something ridiculous like that?
>>343059338
Fucking gooks holy shit
>>343065417
I don't think I really proved anything, as I said, I think the different versions all have their pros and cons.
Good on you for continuing to be a pillock instead of actually playing the games and forming your own opinion, though.
>>343065598
>Did they try and bind the bow controls to the touchpad or something ridiculous like that?
Worse, aiming is bound to motion controls and can't be set to anything else. You can choose to fire with Circle or tapping the screen, but that's it. It's awful.
>>343065598
I would never recommend Yaiba to anyone.
>play through the whole game
>get to the end
>it's just impossibly fucking difficult for no reason
>you deal pathetic damage and have to grind out a win against a boss that spams garbage at all times, while dealing with controls that are fucking pathetic compared to any other NG
It's mind boggling. Also, the 'fight' against Ryu after the long, obnoxious QTE is equally bullshit. It's doable if you mastered parry, but holy shit.
1-5 I replay Ninja Gaiden 2 over the weekend.
6-0 I replay Halo 3:ODST
>>343064769
difference between Sigma 1 and Black are mostly level design regarding save/shop points, and some minor changesOn higher difficulties Ryu will start with Lunar Staff, Nunchaku and Dragon sword in Black. On Sigma he will only have the sword.
You fight the boss from chapter 3 twice in Sigma but not in black
Sigma requires you to shake the DS3 like a spaz to get the full effect of your ninpos for eg
Sigma 2 is a very mixed bag. Game is stupidly easy on all difficulties except Master Ninja, but even then I would call Master Ninja frustrating instead of hard.Personally, I don't mind Rachel or Momiji but Ayane chapter is fucking unbearable due to her chapter having the worst performance, and her character feels like it's on auto pilot by a retard
>>343065770
I never said they didn't but to go as far to recommend someone buy an OG Xbox to play a game when a perfectly fine port is available on a console they most likely own is, quite frankly, autism.
I see this sentiment time and time again in NG threads. I have Sigma 2 but haven't got round to playing it yet. I assume I am going to have a good time with it having enjoyed 3.
>>343064793
It's a good game but being the best on 3ds doesn't mean much when your competition is bad Castlevania and bad Batman.
>Razor's Edge is a bad game
>google some gameplay for a minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpiQ5cdVAw&index=5&list=PLsXlre5s5li6bRFumg0e6mal3UR_x2jN5
man, this looks like the best bad game ever
>>343065801
It's sad, because the premise of the game is so fantastic.
In practice though, instead of being "it's like Ninja Gaiden but you're a cool cyborg guy", it's more along the lines of "this is a terrible action platformer where half of the time you'll have to grab explosive enemies and throw them at things, or grab poison slugs and throw them at things while some retard pops up in a video box to give exposition and memes while you're trying to play"
>>343066213
Looks like a crippled version of NG2
>>343066038
>people want newcomers to try out the original before the remake that made changes that are either good or bad
>they must be autist
why don't you just fuck off mate
>RE is bad
Man last gen was worse than i remember, cause this was the best PS3 game i ve played
Didnt played 1 or 2 Though
>>343056940
>Oh my god yes, please be real, I'm already crying
Fuck off, you stupid fucking child.
>>343059885
>you will die before this happens
It hurts. Neo TN is so fucking shit.
>>343066038
>I never said they didn't but to go as far to recommend someone buy an OG Xbox to play a game when a perfectly fine port is available on a console they most likely own is, quite frankly, autism.
I've never seen this. The most I've seen on /v/ is a guy with an OG Xbox and PS3 being advised to get NGB. And in this thread there's one guy who doesn't have a PS3 or a 360, so it's fair game. Maybe it's happened, I dunno. I wouldn't bother get fussed about it or you'll end up no better than them.
Enjoy Sigma 2, anon. I hope you find a version of NG original and enjoy it too, regardless of which one.
>>343066407
If you can't see the problem then yes. Autism.
>>343066213
It's pretty good fun, and a massive improvement on vanilla 3.
It's just not as good as NG1 or 2, at the end of the day. It's got a lot of stuff going for it though, as a pure action game.
>>343066498
>Someone is excited
>How dare him!
Kill yourself
>>343066734
>crying over a video game announcement
Can't possibly be real.
>>343064769
Only play the Sigma games if you have no alternative.
>>343066817
Gee, peoples can't possibly love videogames more than me!
>>343054348
But NG2 was harder and had better and deeper combat.
>>343066926
Fuck off, rockbiter.
>>343066963
You're fucking pathetic.
Is Sigma 2 that much worse than 2?
>>343053913
>related to ninja gaiden
it's a mobile game or pachinko
>>343067079
its playable but the lack of gore and being easier triggers some people like me
>>343067079
Sadly yes
>Cut enemy number and encounter
>But also cut all keys and small puzzles
Literally JUST
>>343067079
It's not a piece of shit or anything on NG3 levels. It's just worse as a whole.
>>343067079
It's quite a noticeable step down. Playing Sigma 2 is better than not playing any form of NG2, since it's still a good game on its own merits, but it's got quite a few issues that put it below the vanilla version. If you have a 360 and a PS3, vanilla's your best bet, but if you only have a PS3, Sigma 2 will do fine.
Sigma 2, Ninja Gaiden 3 and to a lesser extent Sigma 1 were all awful
No Itagaki no care
Reminder that the game will turn out PS4 exclusive ;)
>>343067260
I guess Sigma 2 is a step down from playing Black or Sigma?
I have access to all three of these so should I play Sigma first to avoid disappointment?
>>343067079
They each have their pros and cons, but both are fantastic games.
Here's a rundown of the Sigma 2 changes:
>better and more aggressive enemy and boss AI
>fixed many of the loops and cheeses for boss battles (only exception being Volf is easily looped)
>less popcorn enemies and enemies are fewer in number but more hardy
>balanced the retarded shuriken spam
>added three girl chapters with full and unique movesets, which are a great change of pace from playing as Ryu and totally change the tactics and way you play
>added additional bosses and weapons
>balanced retarded bosses like the armadillo and the black dragon
>removed the edgy gore and focused on smoother combat and better framerate
>>343067345
no
Sigma 1 is a sideways step at best.
>>343067345
>I have access to all three of these so should I play Sigma 2 first to avoid disappointment?
fixed
I understand Black is outright superior to Sigma so no point playing Sigma
>>343067316
>Sigma 2
>Sigma
>awful
Simply freaking epic!
Fuck off memespouting retard.
>sigma are literally the Xbox games but with added content
>those are sh-shit!
So mad PS got the definitive versions.
>>343067414
Well, everything's a stepdown from Black, which is quite arguably the best character action game of all time!
1 and 2 are both really, really good games, regardless of what version you're playing.
>>343053913
>Could they not fuck up this time?
xbone exclusive
>>343067385
Wow. You write that as if you prefer Sigma2 over vanilla. Is this your opinion?
Respected. I've genuinely never seen this said before.
>>343067345
You should only play Black & Ninja Gaiden 2. Sigma 1 made Ninja Gaiden incredibly easier and Sigma 2 removed challenges, gore and flat out removed enemies from showing up at multiple parts of the game. Gore was a key selling point of Ninja Gaiden 2 to the point where you're killing hundreds of enemies on the screen leading up to a woman bathing in blood (those enemies are gone in Sigma 2)
>>343067385
even with new content i prefer the original
why couldnt they just have kept the gore at least? Made it so satisfying to slash hordes of enemies
>>343067689
because PS3 can't into alpha effects
>>343067606
>but oatmeal cookie is directing it
Would you buy an xbone, /v/?
>>343067568
>Sigma 1
>has the least amount of costumes
>has equally questionable design choices
>definitive version
fuck off retard
>>343067734
I would
How is this as far as ripoffs go? Worth ten bucks?
>>343067464
If you honestly think Sigma 1 & 2 is good compared to Ninja Gaiden Black & 2 you're fucking insane. You can't even fight Santa nor Satan in Sigma 1
>>343067572
>character action
kys
>>343060015
What about Razor Edge? Sigma 2 was disappointingly easy.
>>343067769
Stay mad you were a beta tester.
>>343067658
Sigma 2 has team challenges and only edgy 12 year olds playing on ninja dog play for gore, so fuck off.
>>343067801
Horrible
>>343067568
Sigma 1 actually has less content and less side bosses. Signa 2 removed half the enemies, removed core parts of the gameplay, removed challenge rooms and all it added was a 15 minute backtracking section that's now night instead of day.
>>343067734
Honestly, that's about the only thing that could get me to buy an Xbone after the Scalebound showing at E3.
Even then, I'd be a little worried. Say what you like about Devil's Third, but it wasn't exactly stellar.
>>343067860
Sigma 2 is easier than vanilla on acolyte, warrior, and mentor, but harder than vanilla on MNM
>>343067801
Not NG-like in the slightest. More like a kinda shitty GoW, complate with QTE takedowns. Not one of FromSoft's finest hours.
>>343067968
Only edgy play for gore? Uhh anon ripping off limbs on enemies was a CORE PART OF THE GAMEPLAY.
>everyone spouting shit
-NG1 has Intercept, new game plus, and the Armlet of Tranquility.
-Black is missing the above three things, but adds missions mode, the AI is way harder (better), and you can start with the chucks/lunar
-Sigma adds Dragon Claw and Tiger Fang, the ability to jump and shoot arrows, Rachel, and two bosses.
Sigma is also missing the original NES game that NG1 and Black both have.
There's reasons to play all of them imo.
I hate that only the original has NG+, because I like going back with maxed out shit and liquefying things.
>>343053913
Please be Ninja Gaiden 4, please be Ninja Gaiden 4, please be Ninja Gaiden 4...
>related to Ninja Gaiden
Fuck, this is going to be a side project, isn't it?
>>343067995
>making up bullshit
>>343068107
You're forgetting Ninja Gaiden 1 & Black had DLC missions that Sigma doesn't even have, IE SATAN
>>343068002
I'm hoping he does what Kamiya did with Bayo and makes not-NG.I keep seeing people here say that Itagaki is destined for mobile Hell, and the idea of that honestly scares me a little bit.
>>343068102
>Uhh anon ripping off limbs on enemies was a CORE PART OF THE GAMEPLAY.
And NGS2 still has that you fucking retard, they just have less gore to improve the framerate.
>>343068181
https://youtu.be/VDAiYc_sy8A
You were saying?
>>343068246
No it doesn't, they limited it. Retard
>>343066960
Is this true? I've been meaning to snag a copy. They're so cheap for 360
>>343068341
The dismemberment works the exact same fucking way there is just no blood. You're a fucking idiot
>>343068272
DELETE THIS
>>343057507
Make their missions separate from the main campaign. They are a nice diversion but fuck I just want to play as Ryu and beat the game first. Don't force me to play as the girls with their shit move sets and limited weapons while im trying to beat the game on master ninja/ultimate difficulty.
>people unironically preferring Sigma 1 & 2 over Black and 2. You guys are idiots holy shit.
>>343068512
literally git gud. Momiji and Ayane are fun to play (momiji especially) and are hard as hell on MNM
>>343067860
Razor's Edge has one of the worst enemy AI you will ever see. As slippery as the enemies can be in every NG game, they are nowhere near as slippery as the enemies in 3RE, where they can and will block or dodge at random while giving you very little time to react. Hard to explain for words, it is a "you need to play to know type of ordeal"
>>343068530
Fuck off until you learn how to greentext
>Sigma 2
>good
lmao
https://youtu.be/VDAiYc_sy8A
Is there much of a difference performance/content-wise between the 3 versions of RE? There's no real price difference between them where I am, and I can only find comparisons for RE on the Wii U to the two versions of vanilla.
>343068065
Only because literally EVERY. SINGLE. ENEMY. Even common ninjas can and will 1 hit ko you no matter how much health you have on MNM .
>>343068864
WiiU has horrible slowdown, others are honestly fine games.
>>343068246
>have less gore to improve the framerate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF9uDLsV2EE
oh wow look at them frames
>b-but you were never meant to fight that many enemies at once
so NGS2 can't handle what would be an average enemy encounter in vanilla 2.
>>343068980
Literally get good. And no, they actually can't because not every can grab. And you have to be a fucking retard to allow enemies to constantly grab you.
>>343068980
>1 hit KO
besides grabs and a handful of attacks, not true.
>>343069053
Get fucked idiot
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ninjagaiden2-faceoff-article
>Sigma 2
>NG3
Why should I care for NG4? Hayashi just shit game designer and do not understad what makes NG2 such a great game. His vision is absolutely retarded.
>>343068196
Yes it does.
>Xcucks shitposting they lost their exclusive series
Don't worry, you still have keiji inafune on your side.
>>343069289
>we prettied shit up at the cost of enemy count and the gameply surrounding it
top kek fucktard
>he prefers Ninja Gaiden 540p 2 FPS Worm Boss over Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
laugh at them
>>343069445
>we balanced it so you don't just deal with loads of weak popcorn enemies but deal with fewer enemies that have more health and better, more aggressive AI while also improving the framerate to boot
>>343067860
>What about Razor Edge?
Ok game but shit NG game. Think about DmC which doesn't rape the lore but instead it's just lame, Dante do nothing crazy at all and gameplay just ok.
>>343068065
>but harder than vanilla on MNM
Only due to retarded artificial difficulty with insane damage on some moves like grabs. It also completely fucks whole game balance.
>>343069659
That's not artificial difficulty you idiot, and let's not act like NG2 didn't have retarded shit like shuriken spam and the double armadillo and double black dragons.
>Sigma 1
>good
>removed puzzles
>removed entire enemy types
>lowered the difficulty
>Sigma 2
>good
>removed entire enemy types
>restructured the limb cutting system for the worse
>only 5 enemies on screen at once
>removed enemies on specific stages entirely
>less costumes
>>343068582
I had fun playing as them, but I don't enjoy being forced to play as them through the main campaign. It's like if a fighting game forced you to select a a different character other than the one you want every 3 rounds and you had no choice. In a vaccum, I could enjoy the character and it's difference quirks and have fun with it but right now I just want to play it my way so fuck off.>>343068582
>>343069837
not as good, but good
>>343069837
>>removed entire enemy types
Removed shit enemies and added additional ones
>>restructured the limb cutting system for the worse
No, they literally just removed blood
>>only 5 enemies on screen at once
False
>>removed enemies on specific stages entirely
You already said this point
>>less costumes
Who gives a fuck? This is Ninja Gaiden not barbie dress-up
>>343069103
They don't need to constantly grab you, they only need to connect with it once. And the most common enemies are the ninjas who do spam the grab attack all the time.
>>343069763
>That's not artificial difficulty you idiot
>simple grab which deals like 20-25% damage in vanilla is instakill in Sigma 2
>not artificial difficulty
How about you go fuck yourself, degenerate? It's absolutely retarded shit.
>>343056940
get a grip you fruity fuck
>>343070089
>the ninjas who do spam the grab attack all the time.
They don't though. I only got grabbed a few times by grunts on my MNM playthroughs, most of my deaths came in other ways. If you're gettig grabbed often you're doing something wrong.
>>343069120
Every enemy from the basic ninja up can 1hko grab. Even the trash bone scorpions and ghost fish grab though those don't 1hko, they aren't real enemies either.
>>343070025
I like both games, so I'm not trying to stir shit up, but:
>Removed shit enemies
Which ones?
>and added additional ones
Off the top of my head, I can only remember the motorcycle ninjas, which were just kind of annoying. What else was there?
>>343067860
RE is
>human enemies everywhere
>other enemies are recycled
>challange arenas are recycled
>online co-op is literally the same few recycled bosses several times because they couldn't ramp up the difficulty otherwise
Alright Bros, I have a NES and an original Xbox. I have Black and Razor's Edge (for WiiU and PS3). Should I get the original NES games, and which version of RE is the best? I will be getting NG2 soon.
>>343070490
We're talking about Sigma 2 idiot. Motorcycle enemies weren't there.
>>343070529
>Should I get the original NES games
I don't see why not.
>which version of RE is the best?
From what's been said, the WiiU version has performance issues whilst the other don't. I can only speak for the 360 version, which runs just fine for me. Can't really help you there.
>>343070626
Alright, calm down. Sorry for not checking properly.
>>343070239
My experience was the opposite, pretty much all of my deaths came from the 1hko grabs. If I don't get grabbed, I can get through most fights with ninjas with barely a scratch, they are just so easy otherwise compared to the hordes you have to fight in NG2 on mnm. Its like they had no idea how to balance the difficulty and said fuck it, 1hkos for everyone.
>>343064769
Black > Sigma > Vanilla
Vanilla 2 is vastly superior to Sigma 2, so try to not play Sigma 2.
>>343070825
Well trash mobs aren't really supposed to be hard and if you get grabbed you're kind of an idiot desu
>>343066213
"3RE is bad" is a meme. I had tons of fun with it back in 2013. It's fun as fuck, despite its flaws.
>>343069542
>more aggressive AI
on vanilla 2, werewolves will throw body parts of their dead buddies to attack and stop you from doing shit like charging UT while constantly trying to be up your face
on sigma 2 they will stand around like idiots even on Master Ninja
on vanilla 2 claw ninjas will spam shit around, be aggressive and in your face
on sigma 2 they will attack you maybe once or twice, throw the Shuriken maybe once in a blue moon
>better more aggressive AI
>improving the framerate
when shit can get hectic whether intentionallybring enemies with you to another encounteror unintentionallytwo mages at the same time decided to do their magic shit, the game will chug
ayane's chapter in sigma 2 suffers the most slowdowns that rivals NG2 due to whatever lighting shit they used and having the most explosions and shit going on.
Even when fighting a single 1 on 1 boss with fiend Genshin, if he gets those fire darts out the game will slowdown.
>b-but they are only specific scenarios
>game increased visual fidelity to compensate for other areas like the framerate
>game fails to follow up on that
fuck off. The only thing Sigma 2 does better than 2 is that the terribly designed bosses have been replaced or fixed.
>>343070025
>No, they literally just removed blood
try doing a forward Y with Falcon Talon's in vanilla 2 to a couple of enemies a few times, then try doing the same move in Sigma 2. Delimb rate got nerfed for all weapons in general ignoring Guillotine Throw that hits the wall or counter attacks. That is what people mean when they say the limb cutting shit got changed.
>>343071375
I love how both of your examples are only AI that had to be tweaked due to design changes. They removed gore (but dismemberment is still in place), so one werewolf gimmick move is removed, and they removed shuriken spam (which was cheaper than any ohko grab shit), but besides that they are much more aggressive (especially bosses) and have more health.
The comparison was already posted, Sigma 2 has better performance. Both have slowdowns, but Sigma 2 performs better as a whole.
>>343071702
Only because enemies have more health in general so obviously they will be harder to delimb. In NG2, you have bigger mobs but they are just popcorn enemies and are shredded apart very easily.
