>It's only OK if Indie Devs do it!
http://charlieintel.com/2016/06/28/activision-files-dmca-order-independent-developer-game-removed-steam/
Orion was pretty much a scam, mate. It started as a War Z quality game and i'm not surprised they just copypasted shit from other games.
Based activision shutting down uncreative hacks copying other games.
But contrarians will blindly praise these retards because "fuck le activision COD sucks!!!"
>>343027623
I don't see the similarities
>>343027623
I don't get it, are those supposed to be the same model?
>>343027623
Let's go dmca all dem ak47's then
>>343027623
Orion sucks but those two things G's are clearly different in a lot of important ways
>>343027623
>Gun has a trigger
>COPYRIGHT ORIGINAL CHARACTER DONUT STEEL
>>343027623
>two overdesigned garbage sci-fi guns are vaguely similar
outrage
>implying brecci isn't the best shotty in bo3
>that both use similar stocks
Jews
F
>posting the non-highlighted versions
it's blatant as fuck
>but it's still okay when blizz does it
this is soldier 76's gun just blue and white
>>343028917
the issue is that the parts that are different were also taken from COD guns.
Its blatantly obvious that they took a bunch of gun models, cut them up, and pasted them together to make their own "original" designs. that's theft.
>>343029396
Like 90% of model is different, i'm pretty sure those fine detail is not enough for a dmca claim
>>343027623
>image.jpg
no wonder the thread is shit
>>343029396
two designers would not just happen to make all those details the same. the real gun they're based off of doesn't have those details.
There's definitely an argument for the shotgun in OP but this rifle is such as stretch
No one has mentioned the mag in a different place?
>>343028596
Stock, barrel, and trigger.
>>343029764
the gun in top left of >>343029392 stole the entire top part from the rifle
>>343029617
Only autistic COD players and devs would know that from one screenshot.
>>343029886
look identical to tons of other stocks, barrels, and triggers
>>343027623
The black cocks gun looks a lot like the SCARAB from crysis 2 and 3.
But the other gun looks like an exact copy of the black cocks gun with some other parts attached.
>>343029392
lel, it even has the blue lights.
>>343029984
Perhaps, but considering Onion's current track record I'm going to assume they copied.
>>343029984
They both look identical to the assault rifle from Killzone. Pretty much any bullpup scifi gun will look alike.
>>343027623
Well if they were gonna chop-up and steal assets, they should have spent just a little more time making sure they didn't look the same.
>>343027623
they look nothing alike especially since BO3's isn't a bullpup
>>343027623
Yeah, Theses are different.
If you look at the red trigger handle you'll see that the black part is more round than the fact one up top.
>>343027623
They only look similar because it's such a shitty generic design.
>>343030697
They're not direct copies. The Orion 'devs' chopped the model up and copied parts: >>343029396
>>343029764
those are just pictures posted by the developer to defend themselves.
this image pretty much proves the developer is full of shit. they took a few guns and pasted them together, morphed some sizes, and removed a few details. same models.
>>343029598
Well, it's Blizzard Activision. Treyarch also helped the Overwatch devs on their game too.
They aren't even trying to hide it!
>>343029392
this is very damning evidence
why the hell go through all the effort to make the model different but steal the stock and sights
>>343029037
You'd be fucking wrong. Its not the Argus.
>>343031027
Damn, so they took a piece of everything and created the ultimate gun.
all guns are derivative
I mean... these design elements are not exactly unique or anything.
I can see the similarities but the concept is so pedestrian I have no idea how anyone can claim it's their unique, snowflake models.
>>343028596
I don't either. What I find funny is that so many damn video games come out that shit is bound to be a copy of a copy eventually. So I really don't even see the issue if games started to rip shit off directly.
>>343029396
this would pass copyrights in the real world.
>>343032363
Not if it's assets from a copyrighted work. >>343031027
It's not a quotation, parody, or satire, so what they're doing is wholesale theft.
Same concept applies with music artists that "remix" a tune by rapping over a previously published instrumental without permission. That's theft.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/104900/discussions/0/358415738202489643/
Look at the dev scream over and over "B-but we are indie 50 cent company, activision hurting our profits" while flat out ignoring all evidence being posted at him.
He even defends the pictures and says the guns are different. My sides.
>mfw playing the game while this is happening
>>343034029
>mfw bought it for 50 cents last sale
>its now a rare item you can't get anymore
kek
>>343033840
>a pony fucker is BTFOing the dev
Well that was unexpected
>>343033840
>art is outsourced
>quality is inconsistent across the board
>this is OK
>quality is inconsistent because assets are actually stolen from other games
>this is OK
The dev playing a dumb victim is hilarious.
He'd better be happy Activision stopped at a DMCA, because if they were out for blood, he'd be up to his eyeballs in legal threats and obligations right now.
This entire ordeal sort of sucks since I had some respect for the developer. They released an entirely shit game which they didn't abandon like most devs would have but instead kept patching it until it became a pretty decent game.
>>343027623
holy shit, is this that dinosaur jetpack game? They also got some press for stealing Natural Selection 2 assets years ago. They just don't stop. Well, they did now.
I really don't care if they steal ideas, dinosaurs mechs and destiny atmosphere sounds pretty cool.
>had this game since it was called Orion Dino Beatdown
>played it because it was bad to the point of being hilarious
I remember giving it another shot around the first name change but it just stopped clicking, is it any good now?
>>343035348
he doesn't seem to realize he's getting off easy after making a profit calling a AAA company's work his own. This isn't a youtube DMCA claim for fuck's sake.
>>343027623
they look similar but nowhere does the model look 1:1 identical. they might've used a picture of the CoD gun to model from, but its not an identical copy. in which case its not any different than when any shooter copies a mass produced weapon that actually exists.
>>343037072
They used multiple BO3 guns.>>343031027
>>343028596
>>343028675
>>343028878
>>343028917
>>343029012
>>343029036
>>343029260
>>343029673
>>343029764
IT'S LITERALLY OKAY IF INDIE DEVS DO IT
>>343037941
Okay yeah this is pretty blatant.
>>343037941
Okay, now i see it, good job.
>>343037941
RIP
>>343027623
Wat, those guns don't even look alike at all.
Why would you do this?
Weapons are some of the easiest things to OC yourself.
Just look at MGSV, they made franken guns with little effort, didn't need to pay royalties and still managed to make the guns fun to use.
>>343038972
Whatever you say Activation.
>>343038840
I know right? designing guns is the most fun thing to do. These untalented fucks could have just loaded up pimp my gun and made something that isn't bound to intillectual property
>>343039115
>get blown the fuck out
>"y-you're just le shill"
>>343037941
Not ot mention they literaly copy pasted other things without even slight changes like >>343029392
Shit nigga if you are gonna blalantly copy someone at least ask for permission.
he mentioned his artist lives in the "eastern part of the world." Is he Chinese? That would explain his love of plagiarism.
>>343039586
That would make a lot of sense actually.
>>343039586
Actual vidya artist from Avalanche Studios here. This shit is a fucking lie, he's just bullshitting so when the court days come he'll just point his fingers to China and Activision can't do shit.
>>343039586
Yea that would make sense
If he was a Chink he would just understand copyright laws in China, in which case this would all fly.
>>343037941
Holy fuck this is such a thorough BTFO
>>343027623
These aren't the same meshes, they obviously aren't the same textures, I doubt they even use the same sound resources.
But none of that matters, Actiblizzion can just bully games out of existence because that's the world we live in.
>>343037941
Also
>I would just like to point out that the company behind Orion is extremely shady and has been called into question multiple times including for using stolen assets. After David Prassel's history with the modding community and having known someone who worked for the guy I do not put it past him.
>Here's some info:
>David Prassel, creator of Orion: Prelude recieves $20,00 from kickstarter then fires team without warning or compenstation
>It was alleged that they used stolen assets from Natural Selection 2 and traced over concept art from Primal Carnage along with overworking employees
>The result of the above got Spiral Studios banned from Polycount, which is pretty much the top forum for professional 3D graphic artists
>Orion started out as a Source engine mod and had been making a push on the then new IndieDB side of ModDB with Orion Prelude but following the above took down the IndieDB page for about half a year so as to lose the negative press it was generating.
>Praz (aka David Prassel) was somewhat infamous on ModDB for stealing borrowing other mods artwork and having public meltdowns when people called him on his BS
>Was banned from NeoGAF for self promotion
>Orion: Prelude named changed to Orion Dino Beatdown to lose negative press and Metacritic score
>Had a meltdown on his own games announcement page with everything from quoting himself to screencaps of emails of him spamming game press then getting mad when one responded thinking it was a mailing list
> Renamed the company from Spiral Studios to Trek Industries to lose the negative press the company had associated with it (Their twitter account is even still @SpiralGames)
>David Prassel was recently threatened with a libel lawsuit. He received an application for his "Galactic Council" which made fun of the game, and it happened to frequently mention Star Citizen. Basically, he assumed the email was from a dev and publicly tried to shame them on the Steam forums.
>>343040070
> Actiblizzion can just bully games out of existence because that's the world we live in
You are retarded.
Activision is business and they have nothing to gain whatsoever from bullying some shitty Indie devs over nothing. The whole matter is purely about showing that you can't just steal shit and get away with it.
>>343028878
I don't think gun makers have ever in their entire history ever sued anyone over the use of their firearms likeness in literally any media.
At this point, I don't think they could even do it if they wanted to since they haven't enforced copyright or trademark for decades, so it wouldn't stand even if they tried to these days.
But the gun in BLOPS is a shitty made up nerf gun, so they could claim their copyright on it and are doing so. That's the difference.
>>343040275
>Was banned from NeoGAF for self promotion
So he's a good guy if he got banned from Neogaf. Also how do you know that. Are you one of those fucktards who browse and post on Neogaf?
Aren't both just made from chopped up bits of real guns with blue lights and hexagons thrown on? It's only a problem if they're directly ripping models, isn't it?
>>343037941
Scratch that, shit looks pretty ripped to me.
>>343037941
Fire away, lawyers.
>>343040983
look at the thread.
>>343027623
who are you quoting?
>>343041168
>>343041140 was meant to be me responding to myself, whoops.
>>343040983
It's reminiscent or inspired of the Pancor Jackhammer shotgun, but it's mostly just a big nerf gun colored matte black with LED highlights.
>>343039586
Based. It's so good to see a fellow human being call out those piece of shit gooks out for being subhuman thieving fucks. Look up videogame plagiarism, even throw in anime. It's all from Asia. They're so intelligent yet completely incapable of original thought. Everyone from the RPG makers to Kojima. They're all thieves. Fucking Kojima, almost everything he's taken credit for over the years is a direct rip off of some Hollywood films. I still don't understand how that hack got away with Snatcher. 1:1 clone of Blade Runner. Fuck it pisses me off to no end. Even worse when shit eating weeaboos eat it up and say it's delicious, praising their vile chink overlords. Disgusting.
>>343041302
you
Black Ops III has the best designs in gaming.
>>343041853
No Anon, you are retarded. It's not about asians, it's about chinks specifically.
It's in their culture and business strategy to plagiarise things from outside of China because their fucked up laws allows it.
>>343037941
Yikes
So we've finally reached a point where people are willing to defend Activision?
>>343043472
So we've finally reached a point where people are willing to defend Indie devs just because they are Indie devs and shit on Activision just because it's Activision?
>>343043472
Evil or not, big companies play by the rules and expect others to do the same.
>>343037941
This shouldve been the OP image
>>343043196
you have the coolest tripcode I've ever filtered
Fuck off haters, orion dino beatdown is an amazing game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHFJlmivNg4
>>343043292
konami isn't chinese sympathiser
>>343027623
That bottom gun would not work. There is no room for a firing mechanism behind the mag well.
>>343029392
Goddamn that is a seriously nice red dot sight though.
>>343047852
It's just bullpup taken to an extreme.
>>343048050
No, it is fake shit made by a faggot.
>>343048190
This is not mutually exclusive.
>>343034325
I did the same thing. Some guy was shilling it the other day too because it had some big update.
>>343034325
Fuck it, I'll download it before it's removed too.
>>343048190
Why would you think SJW game designers would know anything about guns?
>>343034325
http://store.steampowered.com/app/104900/
STOCK UP BOYS.
WE'RE GONNA BE RICH
i bought this like 1-2 months ago, think it was a dollar...
played it but it ran slow as shit. only when i looked at the sky everything was fine but obviously you cant soot shit looking at the sky(except the rare flying enemy)
they gonna refund?
>>343033501
Fucking Soujabong or whatever the name of that nigger was.
>>343037941
well shit then, the market/leadership at orion probally not aware devs/modellers stole tough.
http://www.gatheryourparty.com/2012/05/04/orion-employee-beatdown/
hahahaha holy shit this dude is amazing
>>343049334
It's not prelude. It's their most recent title.
Trying to click the store page from your library just brings you to the store's home.
so that one from star citizen looks a bit like hk 36c
laziness I say
>>343037941
it is okay though, because they redrew the sprites and remodeled it. sure it looks the same but it wouldnt hold up in court because it is their work
>>343050531
jesus christ how the fuck do they get away with this shit?
>>343050531
It does, but it's also obviously not simply a simple cut and splice of other, readily made models. It's just rather lazily designed after a real gun.
>>343031420
>Holographic on top of scope
I don't know why, but sights that ride very high on guns triggers me.
>>343051685
that's a range finder anon
>>343051760
Oh.Shit.
Well fuck, it looks like it.
>>343029984
Sure, but they lifted the assets for them from CoD.
>>343037941
I don't get it, they would need to literally stitch each model toghter from bits and pieces that seems harder to do than just like making a new one.
Further more they texture it, it kinda implys that they did it themselves.
