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>The Legion is doomed to devolve into Cartoon Villains when Caesar dies.
>The NCR is irredeemable garbage. The faggots running it will always bring it down.
>Independent Vegas is dirty anarchy at worst, and at best, is pretty good but ultimately an inferior choice to House.

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't side with the last, best hope of humanity. I bet you can't.
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>>342930713
i wish they had introduced a ghoul character who personally knew House

they both lost their humanity
House wants to detach completely and do things his way logistically
The ghoul tries to hold onto his humanity and wants people to work together
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>>342930983
you can even hear their inevitable conversation in your head:

>Ghoul: "You've been asleep for too long. Things have changed."

>House: "I have been working for what is the best solution for Las Vegas since before this minor offset began. I have seen this from the beginning and I will live to see this to the end."
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>>342930713
Back to >>>/vg/
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>>342930713
Official Fallout: New Vegas NIGHT TIME SONGS POWER RANKINGS

1. Where have you been all my life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzHQ7sCBlrQ
2. In the shadow of the valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aq9gxTBUl8
3. Blue Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MreKzYQ9uxc
4. Stars of the midnight range
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPSa5wYK_o
5. Sit and dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG4ZWFuDpKs
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>>342930983
That would have been pretty great. Or at least a pre-war ghoul from Vegas or the American Southwest. Raul was good, but he talked about his own experiences, rather than society as a whole.
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As someone who's not familiar with the Fallout lore, is the NCR bigger than the Brotherhood of Steel?
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>>342930713
House is kind of retarded. If you side with him everything is cool but his entire plan is reliant on everything going exactly as he predicted which fucked him when Benny decided to steal the chip.
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>>342933949
the NCR is practically a city-state with their own laws, security, travel, and even dosh.

the Brotherhood is like a collective movement spanning across the entire United States. They have guys stationed at different places and they just let them do whatever but follow a code and their elders provide missions.
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Post your weaponfus lads
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>>342933949
Much bigger than western BoS
About as big but not as advanced as Midwest BoS
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>>342934389
Claimed before anyone else.
My weaponfu.
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>>342934389
Always
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>>342934389
You mean the shitty laser rifle that breaks after 10 shots?
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>>342934315
>the NCR is practically a city-state with their own laws, security, travel, and even dosh
Not anymore. Maybe in FO2, but NCR is about the size of historical California and Oregon. BoS has the DC metro (and maybe Boston depending on canon) or Chicago and that's about it. A few metro areas, but no real population to speak of. NCR spans from Baja in the South to Redding in the North and as Far East as Camp McCarran (depending on canon). NCR is by far the largest faction both in area and population. Shady Sands, the Hub and Dayglow combined are bigger than all of the BoS combined and that's only 3 NCR towns.
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>>342935074
>NCR is by far the largest faction
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>>342934938
Maybe you mean the laser rifle that one shots Legendary Bloatflies :^)
also there's so many ways to repair it anyways.
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>>342935140
The Legion isn't actually that large. Arizona, Colorado and Southern Utah are pretty sparsely populated. They have Denver (which is mostly dogs) and Two Sun and that's about it. I guess technically New Canaan too, but it's a ghost town or owned by the 80's. The reason they seem so large in New Vegas is because much of the NCR is tied up in the West or in Baja instead of concentrated on the Colorado like the Legion is.
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>>342934389
The only good gun in the game. Everything else is gay shit.
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>>342935264
>Maybe you mean the laser rifle that one shots Legendary Bloatflies

Show me proof faggot
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>>342935284
>tfw the combined might of the Veteran Rangers could have just fucked Caesar over EZ but Oliver is a fucking faggot bitch
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>>342935493
Don't forget Hanlon purposely being a fifth columnist fuckboy.
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The NCR is one of the best factions
However Oliver and Kimball need to get BTFO
And the best way to do that is to fuck em over with House
If House wins Oliver and Kimball take the heat back home, Hanlon can become an influential senator that denounces the imperialist ways of the current NCR
If you want to side with the NCR, side with House
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>>342935074
Doesn't Midwest Brohood have theoretically largest area?
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http://www.gunetwork.org/t8100-new-vegas-landscape-tweaks-wip Any mods like this?
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>>342935575
Is the midwest brotherhood cannon anymore?
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>>342935575
>theoretically
Depends on canon. Most likely no since much of Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel got retconned. We know for certain they own Chicago, but that's it. If they hold Texas too, then maybe but it'd be pretty close.
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>>342935620
Fallout 3 mentions that they exist, but we don't know the canon ending or if the events played out they way they did ingame.
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>>342930713
If he was so smart you wouldn't be able to kill him
Everything he can do, you can do better, with the advantage of not being a potato
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>>342935685
>everything is up to bethesda now
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>>342935705
>Everything he can do, you can do better, with the advantage of not being a potato
Yeah but do you want that burden? House ending says you get to chill in the penthouse and fuck you're waifu for the rest of your life. You get most of the advantages and none of the responsibility.
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>>342935790
This

Fuck responsibilities
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>Go to Josh Sawyer's twitter
>He uses 4chin slang like "tfw"

Josh I know you're here

Ya did gud champ
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>>342935790
Yes. I do want it.
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>>342935875
I see people outside 4chun using things like tfw and mfw all the time, this is not a good thing. He's more likely a plebbitor.
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>>342935875
I just wish I could stand to play his mod or that we would get an NV2
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>>342935493
Oliver is one of the worst things about the NCR, out for glory
Moore at least knows how to achieve things, even though her methods are brutal
Hsu is just a soldier
Hanlon is a drooling retard suffering from PTSD
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>>342935485
With Psycho, a Headshot, 100 Energy Weapons, Better Criticals, Laser Commander, 3 Crits with Prismatic Lens, Max Charge, Lord Death, and Hunter you should be able to kill the Legendary Bloatfly several times over with one shot
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>>342935970
>you can easily achieve this
>if you use all this bullshit
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>>342935970
Oh, and I forgot to mention with VATS
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>>342935970
So you CANT one shot him
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>>342936042
I have all that shit on my character which is why the LAER is my go-to weapon
who uses laser weapons without crit builds anyways
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>>342935790
You're still pretty much his physical interface for getting shit done

You do get a lot of benefits but you're not going to be slacking off for life either
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Is Legion slavetrainer the best job available in Fallout universe? I think it is.
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>>342936219
or just dungeon master
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>>342930713
Looking for a new refreshing playthrough. Someone give me something. I don't use TTW or the level up armor/gun mods so something without those preferably.

>>342930983
>>342931504
Dean Domino would have known house. They swam in the same circles.
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>>342936191
Remember that he has a massive robot army armed to the teeth with rockets and lasers, odds are only a few things would be serious enough that he needs you again.
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>>342935705
Yeah but when the Courier dies it's all over

Siding with House is basically Independent but the Courier has an immortal man with a solid plan on his side.
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>>342936292
He needs a human face. A robot with G.I face and shitloads of guns is not good at diplomacy. If its not gunboat diplomacy.
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>>342936191
You will most likely be his enforcer from time to time whenever a little nuanced diplomacy is necessary instead of only showing up with a shitload of Securitrons
Other than that, you can live the good life in Vegas
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>>342935413
at least there's a bunch of different guns you can call your favorite in NV

for all the 4's bragging about a billion different weapons, there's really only one or two worth using
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>>342936292
He's going to need the Courier every time he needs a job that involves climbing stairs done.
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>>342936219
You know it!
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Dude can't even survive literal microbes and he still has the mind to give me lip and treat me like a bitch?

For a genius hes pretty fucking retarded in insulting the one fucking person in the wasteland who can get shit done.
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>>342935617
>http://www.gunetwork.org/t8100-new-vegas-landscape-tweaks-wip

For landscapes? Just a better good springs and primm. There's the NV Interiors project, which adds more places to explore.
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>>342936407
>there's really only one or two worth using

Chink AK and...?
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>>342935875
He posts on SA and badgame,I assume he gets his memes from there.
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>>342936602
Nevermind thought you meant 3.

Never gonna play 4 2bh.
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>>342936274
melee, explosives, or only let your companions fight
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>>342936652
>Never gonna play 4 2bh.
you're not missing anything other than a new generation of sex mods.
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>>342936420
yeah buddy
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>>342930713
Because allowing an old world relic to take power can only promise to repeat the cycle at the some point. To advance and rebuild a better world then a new path needs to be forged. Kill them all. Taking control of and reforming the legion (e.g. transitioning away from smaller things like anti-chem stuff and eventually transition slaves into citizens and become more oligarchical) to be what the NCR could be if they weren't lost in old world formalities and corruption.
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>>342936420
from?
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>start yet another playthrough
>go full dumbshit nigguh, ugly mug, low intelligence and charisma, 10 luck
>guns, lockpick, medicine
>"Oh boy, dis gon b gud"
>end up doing exactly the same things I did in all the other playthroughs because my game sense always makes me gravitate toward proven results
Send help
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>>342936713
He literally says that he wont do the mistakes old government and NCR are about to do. Houses endgame is to get space colonized because earth is fucked and not worth saving
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GIVE US A GENERAL ALREADY
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>>342936751

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38541/? : Install this if you want something to force you to limit yourself more.
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>>342936802
>Houses endgame is to get space colonized because earth is fucked and not worth saving
He might be able to do that in a few hundred years but by thet Earth would be mostly unfucked save the places that got fucked the hardest. House's only advantage is that he had a lot of things like his securitron stash and his tube set up before everything went to shit.
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>>342936682
Melee explosives sounds good and extremely viable. Which faction? I'm thinking NCR.
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Houses plan is short term. The NCR and Legion clash proves functioning governments can exist and wage war much like pre war nations and empires. House is fine for now but his plan is basically hoping no one ever successfully rebuilds civilization somewhere else. NCR and Legion are only the first, even in certain endings you see the Khans begin to prosper. If we assume Bethesda East Coast Fallout is canon you have groups like their Brotherhood of Steel with more power armor and robots and advanced techs than most every once, functioning logistics and air travel (outside of vertibirds in 4 acting retarded) and a proper military command structure and sizable army. If they managed to reverse engineer and mass produce enclave technology good luck casino man.

Or someone could just take hold of the areas surrounding Vegas and just starve the city state out like an old fashioned siege, using internal sabatoge to destroy crops and demoralize the population inciting distrust of house's security. His robots are strong but they're not smart, you can fool them several times in game.
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>>342936802
Why would that be House's endgame?
Mr. House is all about retaining the old world, this is why he tries so hard to preserve Vegas.
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>>342936940
But everything on earth is fucked. Resources are all eaten dry except for the ones that are in hard to reach places deep beneath earth. America got shat by shitloads of nukes. China is a glowing crater and Europe and Africa are desert shitholes with everything ruined by the resource wars.
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>>342937106
I think Legion would honor that playstyle better
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>>342936802
It would take too long for that to even be remotely feasible and aside from enough securitrons to intimidate the NV area he really has no power. I wouldn't put much stock in the promises of an eccentric vegas businessman.
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>>342937282
Oh wow nevermind, apparently his plan is to actually colonize space.
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>>342937282
Confirmed to have never played through House

His goal is to have Vegas and Hoover Dam to tax the shit out of the NCR so he can get the resources needed to fund his projects to progress his plans for the greater good of humanity.
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>>342937282
Its literally in his fucking dialogue.

<Say you keep control of New Vegas. What happens next?
>New Vegas is more than a city - it's the remedy to mankind's derailment.
>The city's economy is a blast furnace in which can be forged the steel of a new rail line, running straight to a new horizon.
>What is the NCR? A society of people desperate to experience comfort, ease, luxury... A society of customers.
>With all that money pouring in? Give me 20 years, and I'll reignite the high technology development sectors. 50 years, and I'll have people in orbit.
>100 years, and my colony ships will be heading for the stars, to search for planets unpolluted by the wrath and folly of a bygone generation.
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>>342937393
don't you need people for that though? whats house going into space going to do to accomplish that?
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>>342937106
i dont know, uhh, id probs side with power gangers, and go independent Vegas, just make shit into chaos
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Lets share our tips and tricks fellas!
I'll drop some tips that new and old player might find helpful
>there is a shortcut system that you can assign in your inventory with 1 to 8 button, just hold the key in inventory and click on the item you want
>while hacking terminals move your mouse to the first letter of random gibberish that is inside a () or [] and {} and click on then when the whole thing lights up, they remove duds and sometimes replenish your hacking attempts
>pressing 2 will change your guns ammo type
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>>342936734
Looks like new vegas redesigned. It does okay job on making character faces better and changes some aspects like the primm sherifs wifes corpse actually looks like it has been brutally raped, etc.
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>>342935970
>chems
>energy weapons
>probably uses VATS

Into the trash.

Posting an actual good weapon that lasts you the whole entire game.
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>>342937436
>>342937407
>no FTL travel
>Cyrogenics leave people in a fucking wreck after mere centuries, no immune system fit for earth let alone an alien planet
good luck with that housefags
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>>342937319
I dunno senpai. Then you don't get access to juicy melee weapons from kills or explosives from dead powder gangers.

>>342937461
I thought about that.

>>342937504
Shotguns are hilariously OP and actually work pretty closely to real shotguns. I love grabbing the one that ignores DT and just shredding the fuck out of deathclaws with the hunting shotgun.
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>>342935875
JOSH GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR AND MAKE MORE FALLOUT GAMES

FFS
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>having fun exploring and listening to the radio
>Johnny Guitar comes on
>have to bring up pipboy and change stations
who thought this shit-ass song was okay to put in
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>>342937709
You can remove it and replace it with a better song if you want.
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>>342937709
Wow holy shit anon looks like you need to get some taste.
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>>342930713
>>The Legion is doomed to devolve into Cartoon Villains when Caesar dies.
this is assuming they weren't cartoon villains before
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>>342937781
Johnny guitar ruins the whole mood of exploring, it fucks everything up with it's slow pace and extended lyrics.
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>>342937709
I hate how there's like 10 songs in the game and each station plays 7 of them, with overlaps
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>>342937861
What music matches the mood of running around a desert shooting giant radioactive scorpions and getting raped by deathclaws?
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>>342937963
JINGLE JANGLE JINGLE
JINGLE JANGLE
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>>342937548
>Still better than other choices
>Implying mining resources using robots from asteroids or other planets in the solar system isn't also a viable option

Just give up. House is infalliable.
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>>342937963
OH PETE JUST FLEW INTO TOWN
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House is the best ending because both sides lose.

NCR is humiliated, and their expansion is brought to an absolute halt by a man who has no interest in conquering them

Caesar's greatest soldier is killed at the battle, Caesar will succumb to his brain tumor and his Legion will probably fall apart because of his death and that disastrous loss.
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>>342935539
>>342935949
Hanlon only started fucking with the NCR because it couldn't handle the sustained conflict with the legion that Oliver was forcing. If he'd been given leave to pursue the legion I have no doubt that he'd have wrecked shop.
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>>342938057
Objectively the worst song of the Fallout genre. Even worse than the developer written music for the Tops.
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>>342938135
>not punching Caesar's head off and slaughtering his entire camp
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>>342937963
Lone Star
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>>342938190
For a group of people who believe Strength is above all else

Giving him a glorious death in combat is worse than letting him die to his tumor. He'd appear weak because of it, just to die like that.
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>>342938020
Earth isn't even close to fucked

The Shi in san fran invented a fucking flower that is insanely better than Mr House's plan could ever hope to be.

Curie invented a cure to every disease known to man, a 300 year old robot did more than he could.

The Sierra Madre can create food and water out of thin air, and can do the same for many valuable materials.

Basically, your fucking stupid, enjoy waiting out the heat death of the universe looking for a planet to die of Typhoid on you fucking frogposter.
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>>342938281
>fallout 4
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>>342938281
>Curie invented a cure to every disease known to man, a 300 year old robot did more than he could.
Which gets wasted on an 8 year old boy and will forever be lost to the sands of time
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>>342938182
>Fallout genre
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>>342938267
I wouldn't call getting instagibbed like a bitch a glorious death.
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>>342938281
>Curie
>Fallout 4
>canon
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>>342937949
Blame the jews holding the rights to old as fuck songs. Licencing shit from the 50's costs a fuckton.
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>>342938281

"Fallouts" developed by Bethesda aren't canon, anon.
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>>342937470
>Played around 100 hours in New Vegas
>Never knew you could change ammo with a button or if there was any different ammo types
>Now using it
>Game much easier
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>>342938352
>>342938332
>>342938324
>>342938427
Even excluding Fallout 4 there's still the Advanced Auto Docs at big mountain which can presumably cure any disease along with radiation.
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>>342938461
Which is pointless because at Big Mountain they already figured out how to put your brain in an immortal robot body.
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>>342938461
There are auto docs everywhere, not just in the Big MT. You find them in the villa around Sierra Madre as well.
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>>342938461
As well as a myriad of other weapons which are worse than the nuclear weapons that were dropped.
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>>342938509
Actually there are severe side effects to prolonged exposure in the Gel used to preserve the brains.
Why do you think the Think Tank is all fucky.
>>342938546
The Sink Auto doc is much more advanced than the others.
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>>342938589
If everyone's all fucky then nobody is
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>>342938548
Most of which are also completely useless.
>a suit that keeps you "alive" but only as a mindless skeleton
>energy swords that are about as effective as regular swords
>giant robot scorpion that doesn't work unless you keep it plugged in
>stealth suit with AI that constantly complains
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>>342938548
Thank fuck the U.S. can't literally control the weather to create storms that rip entire cities apart. I hated lonesome road, but fuck if it doesn't show the horrors of what the Big MT could do.

>>342938589
>The Sink Auto doc is much more advanced than the others.
Only in that it can speak. It is the exact same as literally any other autodoc just with more programming routines.
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>>342938589
I thought it was that the Think Tank were messed up fuckers to begin with (especially Borous), and that the memory wipe Mobius did finished the job
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>>342938658
Except the Think Tank's brains are all fucked up from 200 years of exposure + Mobius tampering with them.
>>342938726
>His less advanced counterparts at the Sierra Madre were bored out of their skulls.
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>>342938779
At first they were just ordinary
Then Mobius fucked around with their brains
then their brains began suffering from exposure.

I'm pretty sure one of the Speech checks to complete the DLC peacefully explains this.
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>>342938281
Like I said, House is still infinitely better than your other choices. He is simply the best choice for the world in the long term.

And with a competent Courier helping him out, it's hard to go wrong.
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>>342938886
but yeah they had some mental issues before they became floating Brains (especially Borous)
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>>342938686
>energy swords that are about as effective as regular swords
Referencing cosmic knives? If so, this so wrong. Cosmic knives cut through wooden cutting boards, flesh, and bone with the same ease as putting a steel knife through water. Did you actually read any of the flavor lore or are you just full of more and more shit?

>>342938784
>His less advanced counterparts at the Sierra Madre were bored out of their skulls
What in the fuck does that even mean.
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This Machine or Survivalist's Rifle?
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>>342938886
They've also been high as a kite on Mentats the entire time. The fluid their brains are immersed in is laced with it.
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>>342938951
>Referencing cosmic knives?
The axes.
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>>342938951
It's his ending dialogue, it explicitly states that the Sink Auto Doc is more advanced than the Sierra Auto Docs (The most advanced form of Auto Docs outside of Big MT)
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>>342939031
>energy swords
>actually talking about axes
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>>342938990
Survivalist's Rifle has better stats, but is extremely expensive to use. This Machine has lower stats, but isn't expensive to use at all. Both have flavor value.

>>342939031
Doesn't matter then, they're made from the same material and thus have the same cutting efficiency. If anything, you'd do more damage with the axe than with a cosmic knife and they hold their edge for literal centuries.
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>>342939219
i think he was talking about the proton axes
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>>342939219
>they're made from the same material and thus have the same cutting efficiency.
Pretty sure he means these things
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>>342938182
Wow your opinion is fucking trash.
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>>342935413
What does it feel like knowing your anti-tank raifu is completely and utterly outclassed by an old lever-action?
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is the institute just researching robots and shit? I feel like the big MT was the actually useful one
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>>342938267
All of Caesars legion is brainwashed into thinking that Caesars strength is all invested into Lanius.
They'd probably worry more about how Tumor Man is dead than he is physically weak
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>>342939825
They're a bunch of retards
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>>342939335
Those proton axes were just wonderful, especially against robots. I used to love cutting down Deathclaws with them. Man I really gotta reinstall this game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu_pQ3TlKRY
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>>342939323
>>342939335
Either way, they're one of the most powerful melee weapons in the game. Only the super sledge and its unique variant do more damage. Against robots and power armor users it's even stronger than them by nearly 50%
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Lads I very much enjoy the fact that of all the threads on /v/ I can always come into a FoNV thread to participate and observe legit vidya discussion with limited shitposting. It really speaks to how good the game was that it can provoke such dynamic discussion about the factions and characters along with the choices you make.
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>>342940049
Cant wait to see the scriptlag and savefile size creep when playing that.
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>>342935875

>Know someone on steam
>We play vidya a lot and talk as well
>They start using mfw
>Really confused, I asked them why are you doing that
>"It's what all my friends do"
>I ask him what it means
>"It's like what you say when something stupid or crazy happens lol"

I mean, I guess it's better than people who do use it and then post a 4chan link to an actual image.
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I know this is an NV thread but is FO2 worth getting? I didn't really get into the first one even though I got it for free, but FO2 is on sale. Does it have the time limit like FO1 did?
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>>342940576
you would have to be abyssmally bad at games if you ever even encounter FO1's time limit, not to mention you can disable it with mods. And no play FO1 before Fo2
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>>342940576
No time limit
Also Fallout 1's time limit is no big deal, just head over to necropolis and cap some ghouls.
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>>342940576

No time limit. Better overall difficulty balance than FO1, but I'm not convinced that a full combat playthrough is possible because of the difficulty of end-game enemies.
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>>342940663
>>342940670
But it has a timelimit. Of 13 years
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>>342940072
The Proton Axe and its variant also have much better attack speed and durability than the Super Sledge & Oh Baby!.
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reminder that energy weapons > all other weapons
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>>342940739

Yeah, Minecraft's world also has an edge if you travel 20 times the circumference of the Earth but it's just an engine limitation.
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>>342935493
I always thought the rangers being so strong was stupid, shouldnt legionares trained from birth to be ruthless murder machines be better than the average ranger.
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>>342940739
>>342940670
>>342940663
>>342940636
Well, I bought it. Also a quick google search shows that the timelimit on FO1 was upped to 13 years instead of the original 150 days so I have that going for me as well. I just hate artificial time limits on exploration games. It's kind of bogus.
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>>342941072
Considering a good portion of the veteran rangers are over 200 years old? Yeah, not that stupid.
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>>342940049
>Hey lets turn FNV into a FPS
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Welp gents, I did it. I finished all the DLC's
>Saved everyone in Sierra Madre
>Turned the Sorrows into murderous savages in Honest hearts
>Discovered, explored and saved eberything and everyone
>Finally spared Ulysses and nuked both the Legion and NCR.

I have a fully upgraded Red Glare, shitloads of Rockets, enough money to trash the economy and a murderous intent

What the fuck should I do now ?
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>>342941107
Im gonna get some flack from this, but you should download the unofficial patch for it from no mutants allowed. It fixes shitloads of bugs, which some were gamebreaking and inserts cut content back into the game.
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Is there any porn of the Light Switches yet?
It's been 5 years
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>>342941181
>Discovered, explored and saved everything and everyone in Old World Blues*
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>>342935493
>do caesar playthrough
>chasing oliver
>finally get to fight a veteran ranger
>let me punch him to death like always
>get btfo by fucking anti material rifle by another one
>get cowboyed by another
jesus christ those fuckers really are something, I wish they were part of the death squads but then again there aren't supposed to be that many of them
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>>342941181
nothing, beat the game and feel empty
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Offer your opinions on this creature.
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>>342941228
I need this
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>>342941318
Random as fuck and do not fit the game at all. I am glad they never came back
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>>342941318
AYYYYY
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>>342941318
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>>342941107
>Also a quick google search shows that the timelimit on FO1 was upped to 13 years instead of the original 150 days
13 years is just a hard limit on the game. Fo1 story still starts with 150 days and can be further expanded by getting more water. It stops being a thing after mid point of the game (there are still some timed events and endings though, like cities being taken over by mutants)

That being said there's barely enough content in Fo1 to justify even 150 days, the game is really barebones and short. The only way to run out is to go around empty parts of the map killing rats.
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>>342941318
All dead, dont care
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>>342930713
We've been over this already /v/ Caesar is crossing the Rubicon and seizing Rome. Just put Vegas and the Dam in there where they fit. The legion is just an army, once you help him win in the game he'll establish the civilian backing that the legion requires and create a stable and sustainable empire.

Shitdick dreads and nukes lad out in the Divide doesn't know what he's talking about, the bull isn't going to turn on itself once it hits the water because it'll be fundamentally different when it gets there. He talks about history but you'd think he might have looked into the Romans a little before talking all that shit nigga.
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>>342941405
Is it possible to continue after killing the Master or do the ending credits roll right then?
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>>342941159
>Over 200years old
Wait what? Dwere is that mentioned? Are they fucking space marines.
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>>342941686
killing the master doesnt get rid of the super mutant source famdo
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>>342941728
A lot of the Veteran rangers are ghouls fampai.
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>>342941728
A lot of them are ghouls.
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>>342930713
Went with house on my first go, tried the other endings and I still play only for the house.

Best choice in this situation honestly.
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>>342941620
>seizing Rome
>civilian backing
>fundamentally different
You're sure making a lot of assumptions there, friend.
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>>342941763
I see, but looking at the endings the bad endings are triggered by the Master surviving for a certain amount of days. But I guess you answered my question. Thanks senpai.
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>>342941620
>Implying Edward Sallow cares about the REAL Roman empire

NOBODY in the fucking Legion knows how the Real Roman Empire operated. Anyoed who does know gets executed. The Legion legitimetly think that Edward is the Son of Mars. Like a god or some shit.

And besides, The legion has barely enough manpower to hold on to the East. There is no fucking way they would capture the West
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>>342941620
His empire is doomed to fall into decadence as soon as he dies. Enslaving half of your population is stupid as fuck and it alone pushes knowledge back hundreds of years. And fuck slavery
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>>342937861
It suits my character perfectly, idk what you're talking about.
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>>342941620
Is there a reason that caesar pushes back meds even though he was a follower and knows how useful they are? there's the addiction trouble sure but it's not for everything
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>>342942082
In previous iterations of fallout you could addicted to anything and everything. That includes Stimpacks and Radaway.
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>>342942069
It doesn't suit any eccentric characters
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>>342942082
Some bullshit about living off the land instead of relying on convenient things.

He's a fucking hypocrite anyway, the faggot keeps an autodoc to himself.
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>>342942169
I know I got addicted to radaway when going to the glow, that's not the case on NV though and it makes no sense from a lore or gameplay perspective
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>>342931630
Back to >>>/b/
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>>342941992
I thought the point was to make a population that is strong enough to live in the wasteland, legionares wre tough and dont rely on old world tech like NCR does.
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Why don't we have a general on /vg/?
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>>342930713
The Legion can be stabilised by Lanius and the PC when they join the Legion. It's assumed that either of these 2 could take Caesars place after his death.

The NCR are fucked no matter what, I agree

Independent is good, as Yes Man is programmed to lead by your fine example and does exactly as you tell him. If you're a good character, it's the best option.
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>>342942301
go see how that is and realize why people make threads here
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>>342941318
wtf is that
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>>342941181
Shag Red Lucy.
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Its really hard to take anything seriously in this game when Jingle Jangle Jingle is playing the background

It really made the option of nuking both the legion and NCR silly
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>>342942319
>The Legion can be stabilised by Lanius
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>>342942347
FOG is fucking garbage and has become TESG v2.0, I mean a New Vegas general, with just Vegas talk.
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What do you think about Fallout New Vegas being the last Fallout game from Obsidian?

I don't think Bethesda will give Obsidian another chance to make a Fallout game. And Fallout 5 will be a thing by Bethesda.
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>>342942301
Because /vg/ has homogenous userbase. The threads always have the same people posting so it turns into circlejerk. In /v/ you have new people finding the thread and opening it.
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>>342942443
Makes me sad desu. To watch a better developer removed of the chance to make another game because they outdid the owner on their own turf. It's nothing more than petty jealousy.
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>>342942424
then instead of people saying >>>/vg/ they will start saying >>/vg/fog/ specially mods
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>>342942443
no
stop


this cant be real
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>>342941620
Casar's got it all figured out

"Culture is an odd thing. Sometimes a tribe grows tired of its identity, grabs for an opportunity to reimagine itself. The tribe becomes its own antithesis . Everything flips to the opposite polarity. Dialectics tells us that this can't last. There has to be a synthesis , a final sorting out."

" Thesis and antithesis . The Colorado River is my Rubicon. The NCR council will be eradicated, but the new synthesis will change the Legion as well... from a basically nomadic army to a standing military force that protects its citizens, and the power of its dictator."
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>>342942082
>>342942229
As much as he homogenises the enslaved tribals they likely maintain their reliance on primitive medicines. He's an ever pragmatic kind of guy so I think if it works he won't change it. Plus I imagine it's difficult to actually get a hold of them. The NCR has facilities to make meds and such whereas the legion doesn't have that kind of infrastructure. And addiction, degeneracy, crucify the immoral etc. It's all just speculation on our part.
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give me some art requests you faggots
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>>342941992
>enslaving half of your population
proof?
>And fuck slavery
hello there Mr.Normie, how are you liking it on /v/?
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>>342942609
Courier being lewd with a lightswitch
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>>342942565
>Plus I imagine it's difficult to actually get a hold of them.
not at all, the ceasar trade network is notoriously well protected and there are traders that go between ncr and legion freely
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>>342942443
I really wish Beth could just hire people from Obsidian to write Fallout games. Bethesda could handle the exploration, gameplay/ gameworld part, some side quests. While Obsidian does the main writing and characters.
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>>342941370
They never came back because they went extinct 5 years after the events of Fallout 2
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>>342941620
>>342942564
There we go, I forgot he flat out tells you that's what he's up to.
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>>342942319
>Independent is good, as Yes Man is programmed to lead by your fine example and does exactly as you tell him. If you're a good character, it's the best option.
Still inferior to House
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>>342942609
Give me Vault Boy with a Ranger Sequoia and Medicine Stick
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>>342942609
boone as legion
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>>342942642
not him but pretty sure that if you're a woman you;re a slave
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>>342942863
that's just a captain america edit
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>>342942863
oh my god
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>>342942902
Pretty much. The jobs they do vary much though. Some are gardeners and housekeepers, but the ones captured in the frontlines get the shitty job of being stress relievers for the soldiers.
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>>342942740
House is a fucking fossil.

Anyone in the fallout game who clings to the past is doomed to fail

Just look at the Enclave and the Institute
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>>342935761
you know what's gonna happen.
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>>342943043
T. Didnt talk with house
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>>342942609
Courier in Enclave PA goes into the abandoned BoS bunker but the poison doesn't work but he still goes willingly with Dog
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>Legion: A bunch of fucking tribals
>NCR: A bunch morons making the same mistakes the old world did
>BoS: A bunch of Magpies stealing everything shiny
>House: A corpse with delusions of grandeur, who thinks large amounts of caps will fix everything.
Honestly out of Fallout 3/NV/4 only Ashur made fucking sense when it came to rebuilding the world.
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>>342943043
>Anyone in the fallout game who clings to the past is doomed to fail
>Proceeds to name 3 organizations who looked to the future
Christ lad.
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>>342943043
But he already proved that he can protect Vegas from atom bombs.
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>>342942902
no, slaves are slaves, if you're a free woman you're gonna follow a traditional role alla 200 years ago
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>>342943079
Im sure they cant do worse, right?
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>>342941107
>>342941223

I don't know if it already comes with new digital releases of the game, but the widescreen patch is mandatory. The only reason why I dropped Fallout 2 15 years ago was that the maximum resolution was so pitiful that I had no idea where I was going.
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>>342942902
No, female slaves are slaves. Slaves are those who resist and are usually captured. If you're just a regular old lady from Novac all you gotta do is shut up and do your job and don't do anything criminal and you're fine.

Oh and maybe hope that one Legion General doesn't like you.
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>>342943043
House knows that looking into the past leads nowhere dumb-dumb
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>>342943417
Well, the current digital release is ~700 MB and since that wasn't anywhere near standard in 1997, I imagine it's in the base game. Not certain as I haven't downloaded it yet, but fairly certain.
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Reminder that you should convince Ulysses to side with you.

It's the least you could do after the shit you put the poor guy through.
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>>342943592
I didn't put the fucker through shit and he's just using a strawman
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>>342943592
BEAR AND BULL
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>>342943640
It's a Beull
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>>342943592

Ulysses is a scumbag with no redeeming qualities.
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>>342938726
>Thank fuck the U.S. can't literally control the weather to create storms that rip entire cities apart
>implying it can't
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>>342943717
>No redeeming qualities

He wanted to nuke NCR and the Legion

To me, thats pretty much a redeeming quality
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I managed to go through my first playthrough without any major hick-ups, but boy did they not quite finish working on the quests surrounding the Khans. Turns out you must have a good reputation with them to assasinate Papa Khan (complete fucking nosense and for some reason raising my rep in the console didn't work), and depending on where you are in other questlines you can't report quests to Diane (no dialogue option to talk to her about Hostetler). Anyways good riddance the lot of them. Looking forward to infiltrating the Omertas, on my first playthrough I just killed all of them as an RP because I didn't get all my weapons back when I left (which I realize now is a bug, but then I thought they just took a secret tax out of the weapons they'd confiscated, so obviously I had to make an example out of them)
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>>342943717
his life was one horror story after another, and he can be convinced that what he's doing is wrong. as far as I'm concerned he's a saint for still being that human after what he's been through.
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>>342943125
fucking this
if it wasnt for not-so-good map, Pitt had the best main quest out of F3 dlc
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>>342943636
>Be Ulysses
>Finally find a perfect home where I can forget about all the shit
>It's a nice thriving community and I love it here
>Suddenly some retarded faggot delivers something that blows up my dreamland
>I nearly fucking die
>Go through a world of pain, eyebots manage to prolong my suffering by healing me
>Have pretty much nothing now, and the explosion gave birth to unimaginable horrors
>Fucking dumb courier is just strolling around without a care in the world after what he fucking did
>He doesn't even fucking know what he's doing, he's just being a fucking retard out there
>mfw

Ulysses was being perfectly reasonable you shithead.
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>>342937470
Woah i never knew there was a weapon shortcut with button
Thanks anon
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>>342943592
My first playthrough I killed him and launched the nuclear missiles at Caesar's Legion, I didn't deny that I was the Courier who caused the problems at the Divide, saved Divide ED-E and invited Ulysses to fight me. Now I get back to the Mojave and sell some shit to Vendortron and this makes my game shit the bed or something and it keeps crashing.
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>>342944350
You chose... poorly.
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>>342943592
he's a unique person. the wasteland is richer for having him
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>>342944079
Shouldn't he be angry at the NCR instead, for hiring the courier in the first place?
He just did his job
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>>342942642
>not liking slavery makes you a normalfag
Edgy kid please leave.
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>>342940284
WHY IS MUTSUKI AN NCR RANGER
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>>342942863
sure
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>>342944598
If some asshole you don't know destroys everything you hold dear you're likely not going to be thinking about how it wasn't his intention to do so.

And he's going to nuke the NCR too. He's going all out with his revenge.
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>>342944446
>even implying that's a poor choice
I don't care about the Legion, I got this great NCR duster. Don't fuck with the bear.
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>>342944985
I was talking about killing Ulysses.
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>>342944961
Cass banging Veronica with a strap-on
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>>342944961
I like it
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>>342945135
>with a strap-on
>not an empty whiskey bottle
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>>342945135
nope
also nope: >>342942653
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