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Recently I've been playing pic related but what have you guys been playing?
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project gorgon
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>>342913156
>tfw physical pc games were more common
>could take them out and lay with them in bed or hammock

now everything is digital for pc and can no longer lay with your games and enjoy them even when not playing
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>>342914107
>want to actually hear opinions of people about their favorite games
>goes on /v/

the hell was I thinking?
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Playing FFXIV and just got back into PSO2. The English patch for PSO2 has come a long way from when I stopped playing a few years ago. Bretty rad.
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>>342913156

I got back into guild wars 2, catching up on all the changes since I last played is entertaining.
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>>342914328
i just finished installing tera and made a gunner

is there any reason why i cant be a male gunner? it seems really lazy.
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Vanilla WoW motha fuckas.
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been thinking of giving ragnarok online a shot as my first mmo, but the steam reviews make it seem like its not very friendly to new players. anybody got any tips for me?
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>>342914472
It's a wonderful thing, fan service. Only have to do half the work and end up getting twice as many players.
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>>342914328
>What MMOs' is /v/ laying?
this should be on /b/ or some shit,you sexual deviant
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>>342914624
I'd probably go with Wildstar, or TERA. Just make sure to play with friends.
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>>342914658
Just started playing FFXIV from my humble bundle key.
It's cool. Haven't played an MMO since Vanilla WoW, so I've never experienced anything like Housing.
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>>342914585
Why must western mmorpgs be so generic and boring? fuck
Why can't western nerds have something else in mind besides dragons, elves and brown?
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>>342914585
Should I consider a subscription?
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>>342914797

>Why can't western nerds have something else in mind besides dragons, elves and brown?

Why can't eastern nerds have something else in mind besides loli, bear suits, and chibli?
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Since SWTOR decided to shit on everyone who has been playing for more than a few weeks again, I dropped it for good.

It's a mix ESO and The Secret World for now, but I'm not really feeling like playing either of them lately.
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>>342914851
Vanilla WoW is not retail, lad. Retail wow is absolute garbage. Kronos is free and join us for the glory days of WoW.
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>>342914624
Make an archer, into hunter, go max agi with some dex. Reason is this build is really cheap to play and most people use that for farming.

You'll probably get bored rather quick if you don't know what you're getting into. The legit versions which have all the content available are kinda shit, because the later classes are all super saiyan, no matter what you pick they all have some stupidly overpowered aoe, no one needs X class anymore everyone is OP just slightly less shitty and the rest is up to overpowered items from the cash shop.

Biggest problem with RO is no one ever groups anymore, there's very little incentive, and everyone and their mother would rather multibox a secondary account with a priest and/or a sage to beef up their main character rather than group with buff sluts and give them exp and what not.
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>>342913156
FFXIV off and on. Quit doing endgame over a year ago
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>>342915078
But they have. Look at every male in that picture. Much more original outfits than what you described.
Thohg I didn't mean to post that as a good example of what I was saying. I was going to post that and refrained from doing so but you just have to look at Shin Megami Tensei Online to see why eastern nerds are much more creative.
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>>342914624
Don't listen to these untasteful bunch. Play mabinogi, the most unique mmo out there.
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Having lots of fun in Wildstar tbqh senpaitachi desunee
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>>342915641
>furrystar
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>>342915443
Look guys! I found the Weeabu,
I bet you think Katanas are superior too,
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I've been playing Dragon's Dogma Onrine.

It's too bad that nobody on /ddg/ plays anymore.
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>>342915105
I would, but that 5k server cap kills it for me. Having 13-15k players on Nost was magical. Grouping up and competing for every little quest was annoying as fuck at first, but it grew on me. Running into groups from the opposing faction while questing in STV was some of the most fun I've had gaming in years.
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>>342915841

Maybe cause it takes a VPN to initially connect, then is pretty fucking laggy and has dumbed down DD:DA combat?
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>>342914724
well laying MMO is a /v/ related fetish so a long as it stay SFW it has is place here I guess
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>>342915641
Are you like low level and player only 10 hours or something?

I played W* on release, reason I quit was 2, end game was a joke, there was no way to progress besides farming that stupid daily island over and over and over again, and ... well raids, which no one was fucking able to do. Second was the fucking bots, you would see 10 flying bots flapping like chickens teleporting from one resource to the next in every single map, devs couldn't have a single GM banning people actively, I spent an entire week doing nothing but reporting bots, and not one of them was banned, so I got tired of it.

Kept my eye on the news eventhough I wasn't subscribed, found out warplots were just another shit feature no one ever uses, which was promised to be some epic feature that allowed for progression but it was all a lie.

The housing feature was also stupidly limited with something like 200 items per house, shit gets boring fast.

Unless something has changed, why would I reinstall again? what's the game offering that it wasn't offering before besides free access without sub? I'm guessing it's even worse since now you'll be fucked by microtransactions or something.
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>>342915837
Everyone knows that eastern nerds are more creative.
Look at the state of comics for example. While the west is almost 95% super heroes in the east you ahve thousands of genres.
No need to be a weeb to see that.
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>>342916049
>then is pretty fucking laggy
Shit's run client-side. The only things that should be "laggy" is talking to NPCs and entering new areas.

I can't really argue the other points though. The VPN shit is pretty annoying (although you can turn it off after connecting with a fix), and the combat is slightly dumbed down due to the reduced amount of moves you can have. The game's gameplay is better than the other shit on the MMORPG market.
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Runescape and PSO2
>tfw you want to get the quest cape before a Lv99 cape
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>>342915443
>b-but muh creativity.
there hasn't been an "original" MMO since WoW came out. Even then it's literally the same rehashed concept. Even GW2 looks the same as like twenty other MMOs.
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>>342914764

Most people won't experience housing in ffxiv to begin with.
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>2016
>Not playing TESO

Its like you dont want comfy adventures
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>>342916609
i just uninstalled it.

shits obnoxiously boring. wildstar was better. thats saying something.
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>>342916482
Still, mabinogi is more fun and chill.
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I'm playing LOTRO on arkenstone.
Just not rushing it, crafting, playing songs.
Maximum comfy and fun, you can grind deeds for the expansions too and pvp is quite fun being mpvp
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>>342916429
What? Why wouldn't you get an easy 99 like cooking, firemaking, woodcutting, etc. before quest cape. Quests kicked my fucking arse in Runescape. I'm proud of my 94 mining though.
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I wish I was playing FFXIV, my trial just ended and I've got WoW time from a friend so I can't feel justified picking up FFXIV, and it's killing me because it's only on sale til the 6th and i've got 26 days of WoW left,, not to mention my friends are gonna want me to pick up Legion which means I wouldn't even be able to play FF for that long. I really liked the game it's just abad time for me to fucking start playing it. My char is on Leviathon and it's been so fucking legit, I got rec'd the server and it's paid off, it's been really enjoyable, it took me refreshing the server list for 2 hours to actually hit Levi and I'd do it again.
>tfw
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Mabinogi on and off.
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EverQuest. Phinigel Time-Locked Progression Server. only 3 months until Luclin launches. i cant wait to get off this frozen rock.
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>>342916960
I like FFXIV more than retail WoW. Play FFXIV. Fuck your friend; only play with him when hes online and you actually feel like playing WoW.
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>>342916609
>want to play TESO
>didn't get enough GBP
>mom starves me so I can't piss or shit on floor to get what I want


mommy y
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>>342913156
Post more Castanic, so that I may be convinced to give Tera another try.
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ya'll have some shitty taste

WS doesn't even function, what kind of absolute subhuman cunt would recommend someone soil their computer by downloading that shit?
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>>342916273

>I spent an entire week doing nothing but reporting bots, and not one of them was banned, so I got tired of it.

I hear that. Fuck there are still God damn bots in FFXIV. EVERYONE has reported these same 2 gathering bots for months and they're fucking still around. How the fuck does this happen?
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>>342916752
I heard there was a lot of role playing furfags. Should I be worried?
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>>342917031
>wanting luclin
>using the hideous updated models
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I really WANT to like Tera, but all they did was make yet another WoW clone, but with slightly altered combat and pretty graphics. If I wanted that, I'd be playing any old shat-out cash grab MMO. They're all the fucking same.
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>>342917249
fuck the updated models, i want something to fucking do. AAs and VT key is more interesting than sitting with my thumb in my ass for Stormfeather or fixing faction with the dragons for the 20th time.
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>>342913156
swtor

rip /swgg/ ;_;7
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>>342916609
No MMO is worth 60 dollars, especially if it's developed by Bethesda.
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>>342913156
ESO, The only MMO I know of that lets you become a skeleton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZlpTp_dJA
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FF14
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>>342917058
I wish, dude is going through some shit right now, he's got drug problems and what not. I'm still a Dota player first and foremost which is where we spend most of our time, WoW is alreayd super casual, I don't even have a single 100. There's no way I wouldn't burn out if I picked up FF, the game is incredibly enjoyable int he short amount of time I played it, I'll just wait until a good SE sale so I can have the game not linked to steam since apparently they lock out if you do that. I have a 17 ARC and 17 PUG and it's been incredibly fu just exploring and dicking around, not too mention the MSQ means that I'll get a 60 without having to worry about grinding too hard since you can just follow it on your initial Job.
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>Playing FFXIV on and off when an update comes out, but ultimately get bored again by the end of the month after having done all the new things
>GW2 was run into the ground and don't want to spend $30 on the expansion pack
>never played WoW and hear it's bad and getting worse now
>didn't like Black Desert from the trial
>Tree of Savior far too grindy with little reward in fun
>TESO looks like a shitty Skyrim without mods to dump into it and make it bearable
>SWTOR is a bland zombie husk of a game
>Vindictus no longer holds any interest
>SWGEmu will never be up to par with the real SWG
>MxO Emu will never be finished
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Maplestory

Aran got reworked so I hopped back on the game

screen of leveling to level 202
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Some weaboo trash game called Tree of Savior
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>>342917464
I'm considering making an unarmed skeleton character for PvP.
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>>342917178
I need party members
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>>342915841
Japcom needs to get over themselves and put up some servers in Europe and North America.
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Vindictus cause it's fun
BnS cause it makes my dick hard but it's too grindy so I just do the occasional daily quest
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>>342917178
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>>342917359
Fair enough anon.

I hated Luclin too much to play it again. Planes of Power was good though.
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>>342917726
That game is shit and i will never play but Aran was pretty cool, what did they do to him?
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>>342915097
>Since SWTOR decided to shit on everyone who has been playing for more than a few weeks again, I dropped it for good.


what did they do?
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>>342914753
>Just make sure to play with friends
What the hell is up with this whole solo and circlejerk community behavior in MMOs these days?
Like holy fuck how difficult is it to approach some random fuck and ask him if he wants to grind BIG BONER with you.
and then there's garbage like tree of savior which is just "artfags and ideafags make a shitty singleplayer RPG but then shove MMO aspects into it at the last moment to rack in money"

There's a reason why so many people adapted to the grind (not saying you should only have grind though oh god no), and it's because they understood that it fit like a puzzle piece next to the chatroom and cooperative elements of an MMO.

>>342917243
Strangely enough you don't see much degeneracy outside of your usual weebs and edgelords from time to time in Mabinogi, which is really fucking mind boggling.
In fact it is the only MMO in which I've never seen pages of ERP thrown around.
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>>342917726
I keep wanting to go back to Maplestory but the V update and how Reboot is smoke and mirrors are demotivating me.
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>>342917992
made a new "event" which boils down to ea wanting goyim buying more shit
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>>342916367

>Thousands of genre in the east

Let me see... harem, shounen and comedy. So, 3?
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>>342917461
Good thing Bethesda had nothing to do with the development of TESO
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>>342917331
I stopped playing it a bit ago but now there's new classes and some other stuff so I'm kind of excited.
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>>342918105
you seem desperate anon, shall we leave it at this so that you don't proceede to look worse?
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>join /v/ guild in an MMO
>everyone is a cock hungry sissy playing a slutty girl character
>no one to go on great adventures with

every time
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>>342917807
>vindictus
Mah nigga. 10/10 combat, plot is actually captivating and presented well (instead of seven windows of 8-point font you got big text in small doses).

Though it's at the point where I would not recommend it to a friend because the management is really, really bad. Worse than your average MMO. Nexon is confidently incompetent. Never listening to the community, which is small and not difficult to please. And growing smaller by the fucking day. If they do address an issue, it's a knee-jerk reaction of some kind. Like when they disabled direct launch, didn't say a goddamn word to the thousands of questions for a solid two weeks until someone submitted an inquiry and got a straight answer. They then overturned the answer because ??? and pissed off the entire community and continued not saying anything.
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>>342917461
20$ steam sale.
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Secret World. Only mmo that's worth it these days.
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>want to change servers in ff14 to something bigger, to get more opportunities for progression along with more things on the party finder in general
>but the fc I'm in is super nice and I would feel kinda bad leaving after I've been there for 4 months
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>>342918040
>tree of savior
worst piece of shit to hit the MMO genre recently

>>342918389
It's a shame western nexon blows huge chunks of ass, korean nexon on its own is pretty alright, but I assume that's because they're 89% of the revenue stream of nexon worldwide.
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Only sub is EVE Online. Don't play much because >MMOs, and the leveling in the game is absolutely uninspiring, but group play is super fun.
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>>342917936
I understand. Honestly, after playing for 15 years, then coming back to this server, i just cant grasp why people like Velious so much. You just run out of content so quickly.

Course, my taste is a bit weird. Favorite expansions are Gates of Discord (the one that killed the game) and Secrets of Faydwer (expansion #14, which mostly involves killing gnome robots and fighting Kerafyrm again)
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>>342916273

Housing is the only reason to play Wildstar, and the item cap went from 300 to 5000.
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>>342918508
>play an mmo
>but don't want the multiplayer part
what are these people even doing
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>>342918078
Oh, idc about that, literally only play for the new KOTFE chapters
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>ctrl f 'starf'
>0 results
I'm playing starforge, anyway.
Pretty underrated, not like most tab targeting, nice polished. also tree of savior and dragon nest.
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>>342917981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhtuxIpRcsA
everything

also 5th job is going to be a thing soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RQv0lfd56c
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>>342913156

Second Life
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>>342918567
The only thing I really enjoyed about velious was the tower of frozen shadow.

The rest was ok I guess.
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>>342918292

Anime, much like my little pony, was made for little girls. It was a fluke that it's been adopted by loser beta males.
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>>342918614
welcome to the modern MMO community

>>342918768
>5th job is going to be a thing soon
its already a thing
it just adds like 1 skill that's practically just a hyper to every class
its dissapointing
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Thank god for this thread. I'm looking for a F2P MMO that can hold my interest for longer than an hour. Anything out there with a good sized playerbase, player housing and either fun/minor amounts of grinding?

Also possibly alive and active RP communities?
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>>342918709
>starforge
literally 0% recent positive reviews

woot?
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Defiance. Hidden gem, if you ask me. Level-scaling so you can instantly go wherever you want and be able to handle most enemies, and you won't feel unchallenged at high levels. Lots of guns that actually behave different from one another. So far the only shooter/RPG mix that blends them correctly that I've found. Grinding is actually fun because you can do whatever the fuck you want, none of that "kill x complete, now gather y" horse shit. There's always an objective - Kill a boss, rescue an NPC, repair a generator, etc. There are a few places where you just have to wipe the mobs, but the combat is actually fun so it's fine. PVP is said to be good, but I'm so fucking bad at all video games that I can't give that part a fair review.
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>>342918709
>Dragon Nest
>[Completed] Scheduled Maintenance all over the front page
How do you feel about your game closing down?
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>>342919000
>fun grinding

You either like grinding or you don't

There really isn't a way to make grinding fun for everyone.
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>>342918709
That's the most transparent Tera clone I've ever seen, and Tera is just a slightly altered clone already.
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Warhammer Online.
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>>342919000

WildStar
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>>342915906
God damn I miss the Stv cluster fuck
you could see more bones than grass around the camp.
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>>342919058
isnt that game dead
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>>342919158
dragon nest is more like PSO or Vindictus if anything
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Wakfu
>economy and player druevn ecology system
>amazing art and animations that looks as if though youre playing in the wakfu tv show
>grid and turn based combat that favors strategy over items and level, in pvp AND pve
>most fun and unique dungeon and enemy design ive ever seen in an mmo
>lots of hard and rewarding classes to learn
Best mmo ive played hands down
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>>342919190
me too anon
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>>342918389
Yup Nexon is pretty bad
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BnS and Global DFO, mainly BnS, someone end my suffering, I have nothing else better to play.
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>>342919139
>There really isn't a way to make grinding fun for everyone.
>used to just grind in RO with random people I found
>we would chat and all the troubles would just fade away into the distance and nothing would bother me whilist grinding.

I constantly zip across games in an attempt to re-vitalize that feeling.
Nobody is comfy anymore.
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>>342919262
It doesn't feel very dead. Sure it's not crawling with players at every turn but people gather at Arkfalls (a thing in the game) and invasions and it all gets done just fine. I wouldn't consider it dead until you get to a major in-game event and see less than 20 other people.
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I would be playing vindictus or first assault online if nexon would fucking unlock the servers for my region

Fuck you Nexon, i literally want to throw my money at you and you faggots don't want it
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>>342918328
I'll go on adventures with you!
If you mean fighting bosses and leveling up that is.
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>>342919526

Quests kinda fucked that up I guess. With the majority of player levels coming from quests you either gotta be on the same shit or there's no point in grouping up.
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Waiting for Albion Online server reset, was going to go back to TERA for NFA shenanigans, but it's about as dead as robin william's acting career
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>>342919389
RoR kinda sucks for non-Yuro players but i guess it's better than nothing
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>>342919526
>>342918328
>join /v/ or /vg/ guild
>drama
>ERP
>autism
>nofun
>tripfagging and attentionwhoring

>join normal guild
>nobody even talks
why is this genre still a thing
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>>342913156
Muh dick.

I was playing some DFO. But got bored, the grind is horrible and once you get into the thick of things, the beat em up gameplay goes to shit over just spamming abilities.
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>>342919139
Nah see there is a difference between fun grinding and normal unfun grinding. Look at RO's grinding or even Runescape's. Yes they're grindy as hell but they serve a purpose and give you clear rewards. Compare that to, say, Warframe where you just grind for the sake of grinding.

>>342919220
I tried playing that but couldn't really get into it. I guess because the building and such seemed overwhelming? I might try it again. Any fun classes/races you recommend?
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>>342914585
Is this Kronos? I've been considering joining but after what happened to Nostalrius, I'm afraid it'll be just another loss at some point.
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>>342919705
Hey its still hanging in there
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>>342913156
sword art online hollow fragment. i gave up on online mmos after black desert and archeage. genre is fucked there basically mobile games now.
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>>342919626
Another thing killing every game on Nexon's platform.

They also keep trying to buy up new titles. They've cancelled a few before ever launching them in the last five years or so.

All of their money is going to the wrong places. They need to buy some ad space to get their titles out there, they need to hire people who know what the fuck they're doing, and they need to buy new equipment, because my god, the lag is probably the worst I've ever seen on a name as big as Nexon.
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>>342919865
The problem with Warframe's grinding is that it's not progression. Especially when most of the things you grind for, you can't even keep unless you spend money to store them.

Horrible metagame.
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>>342919793
>join /v/ PS4 community
>autistic mods banning everyone for le lulz xDD watcha say about muh fav gaym1?!!? BANNED
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>>342919793
>joining anything 4chan related outside 4chan
You really expected anything but autism?

Rules one and two nigger
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>>342919808
>the beat em up gameplay goes to shit over just spamming abilities.
I'm pretty sure Monk and Striker still play like a beat em up, but I see that applying to everyone else.

Sucks the game has a really bad grind though at endgame.
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>>342913848
my nigger
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>>342919793

>Check out /vg/
>Bunch of attention whoring faggots
>Make friends in-game and make guild
>Clear sailing and lots of fun

Not that hard, senpai.
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>>342919958
Exactly my point. At least in Runescape you have a clear progression.
>Need a new sword? Mine ore until you have enough of the ore you require, then melt enough to make the sword. There ya go buddy, now kick ass!
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>>342920054
Rules one and two are just a fight club reference anon.

They're not actually rules.
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Tera and wildstar are the only mmos I could stand to spend more than 5 hours playing. I like wildstar but the aesthetic is annoying to say the least and the population is still REALLY low. Also nothing is really explained in game so it makes dungeons a pain since if you don't make a huge individual effort you wont be properly geared and the pvp is a whole different beast,

What the fuck is a glance
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>>342914107
You silly man
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>>342919958
Yep. Almost liked it, but there is zero progression. Also the learning curve when I first installed it. Holy shit.
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>>342913848
me too :)

makes me lol when /v/ says games are dead because they have x amount of players on... we have 40 on at a time and I can still find a group to do any random cave or whatever
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>>342913156
I've tried Tera, PSO2, Black Desert Online, Final Fantasy 14, Runescape... all the big names everyone talks about, plus a lot of smaller MMOs ike Aura Kingdom. Also tried MMOs of different styles/genres like Elsword and Dungeon Fighter Online instead of just the usual tab-targeting games.

I think I'm just over MMOs. They just aren't fun anymore for me, I might of grown out of them or I'm too busy to spend hours grinding or whatever but I just can't do MMOs anymore.

Anyone else feel the same?
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International Ragnarok on steam launch was the fucking best experience I've had with 4chan, TWO guilds that had an unified chat thanks to a 24/7 bot and some really great people?

Shit was great, a shame it won't happen again because /rog/ on /vg/ is faggots.
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>>342915105
I would join Kronos, but you faggots shilled that crappy server like assholes and I would rather your server died than give you another player.
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>>342913156
Quit FFXIV a while back after downing A8S and the brainwashing finally wearing off.

Been flip-flopping between Tera (once again) and Wildstar. Was contemplating going back for Legion (yeah I know) but all the feedback on it has put me off.

So yeah, Tera and W*. And absolutely no MMORPGs on the horizon. What a dead fucking genre.
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eso...on xbone.....
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>>342920259
I think I'm there too. I only return to ones I've been playing for a while. Anything new and I'm underwhelmed by how not-new it is. "Kill x of this, quest complete, gather x of that, quest complete, move to the next area and talk to this NPC"
Fucking sick of it. Write a fucking plot, make interesting objectives. Hell, make it instance-based and give a fun boss at the end of every quest.
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>>342919958
>Game has a mastery system that you're encouraged to focus on to unlock new weapons
>Largely ignorable the moment you can make a Tonkor and other meta shit
Why the fuck is this game still in a beta phase?
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>>342913156
Maplestory but I think I'm finally quitting for good after however many years of continually coming back.
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>>342920259
Yes - tried playing EverQuest classic recently and it was painful at a certain point
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>>342916960
Don't you have to pay to get it AND pay for subscriptions, for FFXIV? Seriously, either do one or the other but not both.
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>>342920295
This right here. Kronos servers have been garbage lately. I like having people but I like being able to play more.
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>>342920117
that's really only for rune armor though
there's a shitton of armor that you either need to buy off the marketboard or get lucky enough to get it in drops
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>>342920609
>Don't you have to pay to get it AND pay for subscriptions, for FFXIV?
you mean like pretty much every mmo that hasn't been a failure and gone f2p?
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>>342917732
I like these character designs, they seem really lewd.

The fact they aren't even that lewd is what makes them super lewd to me for some reason, same with Final Fantasy Tactics.
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>>342920259
okay lad
in all those games

how much time did you spend playing alone
and how much time did you spend playing and communicating (at the same time) with other players?
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>>342913156
Absolutely loved Black Desert. Have dumped over 400 hours already on it.
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>>342919793
MMOs are not a thing anymore.

For a long time.
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>>342920460

>Write a fucking plot

Do we really want to do this? It makes a game feel so linear.
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>>342920494
>all endgame missions are completely based around explosive weapons
>they continue nerfing other weapon types instead of balancing upwards
Not the most competent lot. But hey, second dream.
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>>342920864
just because you don't look at or do something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Got forced into playing ESO with real life friends. They even bought it for me since it costs like $2 now.

It's just another shitty MMO though. Only thing I sort of like about it is how you're not forced into a specific build based on your class choice, which is something more MMOs need to do.
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>>342920832
(not the guy you responded to)
Problem is there is almost no incentive to do so, and on the other side, there is no incentive to aid newer players. Planetside 2 almost got it right - there's a mission right up front that completes upon you joining an "outfit" (guild). Thing is, again, no incentive to accept new players. "kd too low lol git gud" "we only accept capped players with x dps" that kind of shit is running fucking RAMPANT on most free-to-play games, and then the communities bitch and moan about the game's populous shrinking.
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>>342920706
Eh. Still I'm wondering if I should replay Wildstar. Is it really that decent later on? Like I said it seemed really overwhelming in terms of building characters and such.
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Seems a lot of people like tera
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>>342920609

Not only do you pay for the base game AND a subscription, but they also have an item shop for exclusive items.
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>>342920925
Then throw in the lousy "kill x gather y" as side quests, for a little extra grind if you feel like it. Chain up side quests so there are multiple subplots with one main plot.
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>>342921197
Add "unlocking a job at max level quickly for the Chinese version" in the item shop part.
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>>342920301
How's Wildstar after the Steam launch?
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>>342921135
>ESO
>Not the greatest living MMO
Nigger gtfo.
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Fuck, American Express gift cards don't work on Steam. What do? I wanna buy ESO.
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>>342919793
>normal guild
protip, your casual leveling guild that invites any random guildless person because hey whatever come on in is not a "normal" guild
a "normal" guild where people actually interact is a dedicated raiding guild, because there is an actual group activity where people in the guild come together to do something, and that is where social interaction happens
otherwise it's just a throwaway title people have under their name while they play the game solo like they would have anyway
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>>342917629
Maybe Camelot unchained will be any good anon.
We can only hope.
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>>342921576
prostitution
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>>342918389
You want to know how bad the management is? So in 2011 Vindictus opens up for Australia. JUST Australia. I live in New Zealand and was pretty surprised when I was region locked out of it, since everyone tends to lump New Zealand in with Australia anyway.

And then this year Nexon announced the 5 year anniversary of Vindictus being available for Australia and New Zealand. So I sent them an angry email saying that New Zealand has never had access to the game, ever. After several back and forths with Nexon support, New Zealand finally was able to play the game. Apparently some fucker forgot to remove New Zealand from the list of banned territories back when the game was NA and EU only. Vindictus is literally only able to be played in New Zealand FIVE YEARS LATER because of me. And the worst part is?

I only played Vindictus for a week before getting bored of it.
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>>342921738
How do you think I got the gift card?
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>>342919879
Different anon. The point given to me is cause it's a slavshit-server it won't get touched. Also Nostalrius was made to appeal to Blizzard to make classic servers.
Whether Kronos slav-shit server is good is not is still up to debate.
But I'm biting the bullet since I'm addicted.
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>>342921576
How is ESO? Is it still subscription based? I might buy it when I get some cash on the 1st.
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>Look up TESO
>Storage: 85 GB available space
great game
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>Shadowbane will never come back
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>>342919526
Well there you go. Grinding wasn't fun, hanging out and making new friends was fun. It just so happened you were grinding while doing it.
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>>342921778
I think I vaguely remember that. Sweet jesus, it's like they're TRYING to drive the brand into the dirt.
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Resubbed for WoW because friends picked up the game. Just rafing with 3 of them until they hit max level. Funny to hear stuff from them when they were so anti-WoW in the first place. Never having played it they enjoyed a lot of the stuff it had. 2 came from GW2 and one came from FFXIV.

WoD was a complete shitshow, it was pathetic and I hated it. Worse than Cataclysm. The design however is the best I've seen.

Legion I'm cautious as fuck for.
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>>342921795
kek
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>>342921887
No, it's buy-to-play. No subscription.
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MMORPGs live and die on their social aspects, as far as my interest goes, and nobody talks in these fucking things anymore.
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>>342920609
Yeah, but it's 10 bucks on steam for base right now, which it would definitely take that first month to clear to 50 the first time, the MSQ is really fucking long. It'd cost me less to pick up FFXIV than resub WoW.
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>>342919058

Fuck off. This stupid shit and Trion's unique ability to not make good decisions is what killed Rift.

The best WoW clone out there.
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Wasn't it rumored that Bluehole is making TERA2 like 2 years back? Any news or confirmation on this?

Used to like TERA back when it was p2p but the poor optimizations made it unbearable to play. Was hoping they would actually make TERA 2 come true and fix that bullshit.
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>>342922169
There's no incentive to do so to these people. "If it doesn't advance my character's progression, I don't care about it." Little do they know how fucking awesome a guild can be just for the social interaction. My guild in Vindictus is long dead and no one is taking in any members without crazy requirements anymore. It sucks.
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Anyone here who is playing something other than:
>swgemu
>a respectable UO shard
>kronos
>AgeOfReckoning
>Haven&Hearth2
>DAoC private server
is a shit eating gaywad. There are no good current mmos. There are some decent looking ones coming (some semi-playable now but early access is a gamble) but zero good ones right now. Anyone playing unironically playing retail WoW, ESO, SWTOR, or Wildstar should self-harm until they get better taste. I won't mention Tera or the other games for degenerates, and ArcheAge and BDO are for people that literally hate themselves.

Games that might be ok in the future that you faggot nerds should be into and not the hot shit that you shove down your throats:
>Gloria Victis or Life is Feudal (both similar, both may be shit)
>Crowfall
>Pantheon
>Camelot Unchained
>Chronicles of Elyria
>Darkfall New Dawn (tuesday for development server if you niggers are into that, which i doubt)
>Repopulation (almost literally reskinned SWG, likely is shit but WE'LL SEE)
>Shards Online
>Albion Online (doubtful but worth a look)
>Worlds Adrift

Anything else, i repeat, anything else is hot fucking garbage and you should feel ashamed to be even playing shitty mmos. Goddamnit i feel embarassed for all of you.
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>>342922301
Defiance is doing just fine as I see it, but it's only 3 years old, so it's still got time to swirl down a toilet.
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>visit mmo general on /vg/
>its filled with genuine autists and erpers
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>>342922476

Trion came out and said that they needed to milk Rift because Defiance bombed so hard.

The TV show was abandoned practically instantly and the game is literally on Trion-savings life-support.
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>>342922396
>Camelot Unchained
My blood brother from another house mother.
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>>342922572
That I didn't know. Was the show any good though? I can't imagine it would be since it's on SyFy, but that network has surprised me before.
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>>342919360

How dead is it? I kinda' like the idea of an online SRPG, but last I heard there were a lot of problems with it and no existing community to be found.
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>>342922396

>Typical loser nerd sperges out

I can see why fun MMOs aren't your style. You feel more welcome on ones where your fellow virgin autists congregate.
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Which MMO has the best titty monsters?
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>>342914797
Opposite with me, every Korean MMO just feels generic, soulless and plain empty. The hamfisted waifus and goldsellers everywhere don't help this.
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>>342922729
PSO2
Warframe
TERA
BnS

however Warframe is probably the only game on that list actually worth playing in 2016
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>>342922525
/vg/ was a mistake
"general" threads were a mistake
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>>342922675

The problem was that the TV show cost way more to produce than it made in hard cash and Trion pulled out after the first season. They made 3 seasons of it, I think, so you could totally check it out.

Personally I found it uninteresting, and as you said SyFy aren't all that known for their high production values.

The reason a lot of people don't like the game is because in order to keep it alive, Trion had to start pulling some real jew-moves with Rift. They even said publicly (in a weird PR choice) that Defiance needed the "economic support from Rift".
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>>342922729
Vindictus.
(tho this boss is super late in the game and stupid difficult)
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>>342922396
Mabinogi is a lot better than all those uninspired mmos you posted.
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>join /v/ guild
>non-:^)/;_; emoticons
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>>342922525
what really bothers me about those threads is the spastic "look at me!' cries every other post
everyone is just spamming pictures of their character in various poses baiting for attention, they hardly talk about the game, much less use the thread as a vehicle to play with other people there
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>>342922729
ff14 has loads of titty bitches and big booty all over
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>>342920832
I live in New Zealand so by the time I get off work and eat dinner and settle down to play a game, it's about 3 or 4am for you Americans. So basically, I don't do MMOs socially a lot. It didn't used to bother me back in highschool though...

But like, it's not as if I don't do anything social in MMOs at all. It's just like... what happens is you'll talk to someone for ages and he seems really cool, right? So you add each other as friends. And then you fucking ignore each other for 15 years, outside of maybe "hey" or "yo" when you go online.
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>>342922815
Wait, PSO2 has actual titty monsters?
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Wildstar and TERA, GW2, FFXIV, Tree of Savior, ESO, BDO are all valid options
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>>342922525
This.

I tried joining FF14 guild only to find the biggest mistake on /vg/
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>>342923105
I'm definitely interested in FF14, somebody showed me Echidna a while back.
Sucks that there's no good resources with pictures or anything, though.
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>>342922354
I'm not sure what a MMORPG offers over a traditional RPG to these people.
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>>342923138
I'm still wondering if ESO is any good and what kinda shit you can do in it.
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>>342923389
Beats me. Other than "this boss is too hard better ask for help" instead of "this boss is too hard better go do some other quests and level up a bit."

They usually take the latter anyway.
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>>342923138
How's Tree of Savior is the community dead?
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>>342922009
Yeah, /v/ had a Vindictus thread and I was complaining rather loudly and probably in all caps for entire paragraphs about it. And that's what spurred me on to complaining.

Thanks /v/, you actually made me do something. Even if it was fucking useless, at least I did it.
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>>342923389
They just like the idea of being in an online game where they could potentially play with other people if they wanted to.
They also like chasing the carrot in an open ended world, with character customization and classes.

Honestly, if more offline games did this I imagine they'd have a big market. If there were more "offline MMOs" that offered all the things an MMO did, but in a traditional RPG package.
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>>342923648
>If there were more "offline MMOs" that offered all the things an MMO did, but in a traditional RPG packag
open world games?
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>>342922247
>the first time

How many times are you expecting me to play this...?
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>>342923121
Not much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ovxFfW6Y9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lkhIOZI19w
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>>342919058
Too bad the TV series ended for some reason.
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>>342923731
No, "offline MMOs." Xenoblade, Kingdoms of Amalur, FFXII. That sort of thing.
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>>342923389

They can show off their gear/loot to other players.

Honest, in FFXIV it seems all anyone ever does at endgame is stand around in the most populated spot, AFK in their expensive gear/shitty new mount.
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>>342919058
Nah Defiance is shit once you're done with the story missions, before that it's acceptable. Like the only worthwile content requires a bunch of people to swarm the big objectives, but guess what, since no one gives a fuck about the game anymore the engine is craptastic, a big event spawns, 10-20 faggots go there, little by little more people come, and then you realize the enemies stop spawning, the players are frozen, and the music has stopped, you're stuck and the game kicks you out, repeat add infinitum.

It's a shame because most of what you said it's true, but the client is garbage, the netcode abyssmal, sniping is impossible, and late enemies become huge damage sponges. Also the pvp area is nothing but capped players stealthed one shotting you.

Funny because it's hardly pay2win, I even was tempted to buying some of the DLC, if it wasn't for how horrible and unplayable the multiplayer part is.
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>>342923648
These come to mind:
>Dragon's Dogma
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
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final fantasy 14,though a friend got me elder scrolls online and thats kind of enjoyable too
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>>342921135
>check it out on steam because I've got the itch again
>system reqs
>85 gig of storage
Jesus fucking christ that shit would take me days to download. What the fuck does that even look like in a store, do they give you a bethesda brand garbage bag filled with DVD's?
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>>342921417
still dead. Steam players have stabilized for the time being at around 3,000, mostly on NA. Community is cancer that rejects every legitimate complaint anyone has of the game, though if youre an obnoxious furfag who likes to ERP in public chats, you'll probably love it. PVP is still non-existant, everyone plays it like a single player game, noone talks in dungeons, no new dungeons or raids, yeah I know Redmoon is in the works, it has been for 2 years. Dungeons and over all difficulty has been gutted, you think games like WoW are casual? W* is a fucking joke now outside its whopping 2 raids.
Most of the new 3,000 players will leave before hitting 50, the ones who make it will leave when they realize there is no endgame outside doing dailies which have no real reward. Some people will stick around but only because its f2p and has furry races.
Fuck Nu-Carbine and Fuck NCsoft, I honestly loved this game prior to f2p.
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>>342923731
>>342923648
Xenoblade Chronicles X is literally the best MMO I've ever played, and it's a single player game on the Wii U.

You can go do missions online with other players if you want though.
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>there will never be another mmo that just hooks you from the getgo and you never know why
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>>342917726
I was thinking of getting back into maple story but everytime I remember that I never made it past lvl 80 and I played for what seemed like forever. This game represent my whole highschool experience.

If I ever came back to it I'd probably try beast-tamer or just start up a regular Spearman.

Mabinogi the same, represent my whole Highschool and college gaming. But one look at the autists who got maxed out on every skills just makes me wanna give up.

I've been on and off dragon nest but the repetitiveness just killed it for me.

I just wish I was back when playing an MMO with friends was an every evening thing...
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I've really been enjoying Tera lately.
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>>342913156
Does Destiny count? I'm still playing that shit for some reason.
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>>342917804
As much as I'd love it to happen, the game would bomb in EU/US.

Just take a look at any MOBA or modern MMO. Those already require 3 shitters to work together, most MMOs have 4. Imagine trying to get 4 shitters to work together for longer periods of time, in a combat system that isn't just "press buttons and watch pretty lights". I mean, a normal cyclops fight involves the following:
>attack monster
>monster enrages
>both dps pull on monster while tank perfect blocks/blocks hits
>tank buffs weapons (and make sure it's not some other element that it's not weak to, because then you're fucked)
>get healslut to identify weakpoints
>wail/pull on the monster until it decides it's had enough
>fuck it's shit up
>repeat this process
Most MMOs require you to move out of the red zone, make sure you're close to the healer, and not worry about much else that's happening on-screen. The amount of co-ordination isn't much, but it turns out most people are retarded. And if you fail to buff your weapons, then the fight drags on for around an hour at the higher levels.

People would complain, and leave the game because it's "too hard". And that would kill the game, considering it's F2P.
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>>342923773
Ran out of money. I actually liked it. The ending was garbage, though - you can tell it was a last-minute "fuck we're out of money but we can't abruptly end it in the middle of all this shit" thing.
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bout to play archeage. any good?
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>>342921197
Also their prices are completely jewish. It's $18 to transfer to another world.
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>>342923898
That hasn't happened to me once. Maybe I'm lucky? Also sniping cpu enemies isn't that bad if you don't have anyone grieving you.
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>>342922396
Cautiously optimistic for Pantheon.
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>>342923757
You get double exp for any class/job at least 1 level below your top, not too metnion there's a fuck ton of items/tools that are available once you have a max lvl job. On top of food bonus exp, on top of rested exp, on top of levequests and GCs. Your first 60, 50 in the case of only having ARR, will take multitudes longer than any other max level you do afterwards.
If you're not aware of how FFxiv works, you carry all your classes/jobs/crafts on one character. You don't make alts, I mean you can, but it's more about having a personal influence on your Realm, which is why RP is so prevalent and Realm loyalty is a legitimate thing. Go to ffxivg and ask what realm to play on, you'll get a dozen answers from a dozen people.
Leviathon for life
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>>342923934
I bought Dark Souls 3 in store and it came on 3 discs. Game is 18GB. So that was 6GB a disc. So for an 85 GB game... surely it should be 15 discs?
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>>342923456
Haven't played it recently, but at launch PVP was bad. Zergs everywhere, and it was not rewarding. Castles you capture give benefits to EVERYONE in your faction, not just to you, and if you leave them undefended, they would be recaptured within hours.
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How the fuck is ESO? I've asked two god damned times in this thread.
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>>342923861
>go to Idyllshire at any time of day
>10fps due to the billions of catsluts posing in their maid outfits
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Tree of Savior, but I have no fucking idea why I keep playing it.

It's a game that is 25% finished, a bunch of UI elements don't even work, cash shop is stocked with a dozen items, tops, and real money currency doesn't transfer between servers.

And yet I keep playing it

I wonder why
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>>342924192
elder scrolls online you inept fuck
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>>342924149
That's ridiculous. Worst I'd seen before was when I bought WoW back in the day and got a thick box with something like 6 CDs.
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>>342924192
Imagine a lazier version of WoW vanilla

It's WoW vanilla

It's still lazy.

And missing 90% of the features modern MMORPGs have.
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>>342922308
Yeah, Tera 2 is for cellphones, but it has a different name I don't remember what it is.
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>>342924007
Dragon's Dogma's re-release on the PC was one of Capcom's best-selling and highest-rated PC games, and it gets really fucking hard in the DLC. I doubt Dragon's Dogma Online would bomb here. It would probably be another Dark Souls alternative for the PC, like Dark Arisen already is.
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Been playing Oldschool Runescape aka 2007scape for a few months now. It's good fun, even if the game is literally run by reddit.
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FFXIV
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>>342924248
How=/=What dumbass.

>>342924187
>>342924312
Well shit. How's Wildstar or Tera?
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>>342924248
Kek
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>>342923570
Community isn't dead, but there's no real reason to play it.

There is ZERO endgame. Past level 230 is no-game. You may as well just make a new character at that point.

Furthermore, again, >>342924234
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>>342924234
You felt so hyped for it that you don't mind it being killed off when it dies in Korea?
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>>342913156
Black Desert is the only worthwhile mmo at the moment. Only problem is that it isn't casual friendly and autistic 4chan guilds like to ruin the fun for everybody else.
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>>342924052
isn't it like 30 in wow?
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>>342924370
didn't play wildstar

TERA is a hell of a trip up until level 38. At that point the game slows down to a grindy mess.

Level 50-55 is the worst part of the game.

After that, it's smooth sailing.
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FFXIV also lacked a bunch of shit from modern mmos. If you played 1.0 it was really slow since everything was meant to play on a controller, but then when you move on to 2.0 the game still lacked basic shit and Yoshi's excuses were really made you question if he really played mmos such as a few patches ago they just now added a way to see your TP bar, and in 3.0 this last patch they just now added PARTIAL SEARCH for the market board and the game has been out for over 5 years now. And not only did they add it now, but you have to TOGGLE it on the market board. Who the fuck types out the entire name of an item while searching?
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>>342923767
I'm astounded there were actually any. I don't remember PSO having any titty monsters. TY!
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>>342924327
While DD:DA fans will be fine, it's more the other people who haven't played the series before. Plus, F2P always brings in shitters.
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