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Why do people keep falling for the Kickstarter scam?
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Why do people keep falling for the Kickstarter scam?
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>>342904198
>the Kickstarter scam
Because "Kickstarter" itself is not a scam.
Its just easy to scam people with it.
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Game looked like shit, those people deserve to lose their money.
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>>342904198
how much did that Daniel guy donated?

srsly he is as much of a faggot as the creator, game looked like shit since the freaking announcement
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>>342906874
shut up, you a faggot!
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Tyler, pls.
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>>342906874
I don't know. However the creator gave his word to refund and as a man he should keep his word.
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>>342904198
Unless there is a playable demo and/or actual developer pedigree (previous quality releases) be very careful, if they look like a hipster numale cunt they probably are. Also
>pixelart
is a huge red flag. There are great spriters out there, but if the art looks like programmer art, stay the fuck away.
Personally backed both Grip and Overload, Grip failed it's Kikestarter, but the developers kept going, it's come a long way and looks to be a potential hit,
Overload is from a few of the original Descent creators, had a playable demo before KS, it played better than a lot of modern full games.
If it looks dodgy, it probably is, do your fucking research and don't be sold by teh buzzwords.
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Remind me why Kickstarter/early access is bad again?

Wasteland 2
Torment 2 (early access build)
Chivalry Medieval Warfare
Divinity Original Sin
Kingdom Come Deliverance (what I've played at least)
Shadowrun Returns/Hong Kong
Satellite Reign
Grim Dawn
Xenonauts
Darkest Dungeon
Shovel Knight
Legend of Dungeon
Guns of Icarus Online
Gods Will Be Watching
Among the Sleep (first person horror game from the perspective of a toddler)
FTL
Superhot
Sunless Sea
Octodad Dadliest Catch
Sir You are Being Hunted
Contagion
Ravaged
Hard West
Lifeless Planet
Organ Trail
The Escapists
Insurgency (failed Kickstarter but got a build out in early access and funded development through that entirely)
The Banner Saga

Why should I give a fuck if dipshits with too much access to their mother's paypal accounts give money to babby's first unity project? I got these
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>>342910393
A few scumbags abusing the system and people pretending that's the standard.
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>>342910393
Because for that handful of good games there is a literal fuck-ton of scams and garbage.
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>>342910393
Was Among the Sleep any good?
Seems indie/crowdfund is the only way to get innovation in the market, AAA is the same shit repackaged with a slight twist.
Shame there is so much shovelware/scamware cropping out of it, though.
/v/ conflates hipster pixelshit with independent development, "indie" is an instant turn off.
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>>342910506
Those "literal fuck-ton of scams" didn't get funded above $20,000-$40,000 (fucking nothing in gamedev/sales)

>>342910690
I really enjoyed Among the Sleep.

I just listed every Kickstarter worth a damn because those were the only ones that got funded a reasonable amount
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>>342910393
you listed a long line of shit. popular shit, but shit nonetheless.
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>>342910690
It was really good for the little amount it had. The only problem was the game was pretty short and not really worth it at full price. It's current sale price on Steam is okay though.
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>>342910393
Don't forget Undertale and LISA: The Painful RPG.
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>>342910925
Man funded do and end up being critical and/or commercial failures.
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>>342910393
can someone post that image graph of how 1/3 of Kickstarters that are willing to deliver while the rest is left in the dust for months?
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>>342911514
As I said before, who gives a fuck if people toss their money at babby's first Unity game? Which most of those are.

I listed the notable games because they're the ones that deserved funding. Go look at most kickstarters and there's tons of red flags everywhere. I'm not funding those. Retards are, and retards deserve to be scammed.
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>>342904198
>mfw daniel probably didnt get his money and falco probably got his indie fans to harass him into stopping
shoulda never donated to a pixelshit game
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>>342911484
Sounds like the kind of games /v/ would love.
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>>342904198

>Falco Girgis
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>>342910393
Because most devs are incompetent and want to treat backers as angel investors.
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>>342904198
Could that guy have anymore of a douchebag face? A face that you'd love to punch?
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does he prefer d-air?
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>>342911810
Not just a scam artist but a rapist. Who'd a known?
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>>342904823
That's 10 years of funding for me.

This is why kickstarter is a bad idea. It should give them a percentage per month.

This guy didn't need a lump 185k. Not a lot of normies can handle that amount of money. You know this guy probably bought a new car and ate a steak dinner every night.
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>>342912230
He used it to get a hair transplant. Not kidding.
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>>342904198
I feel for it because I was young and dumb. Not all kick starters are terrible though. Little Witch Academia was actually good. Of course that wasn't a video game...
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>>342904198
Okay, am I the only person who thinks this game looks like garbage?
One of the main points they made on their kickstarter page was their amazing custom graphics engine. Then they just take 2D sprites and stand them up on a 3D background to the absolute worst effect of all time.
And then I see a game that looks *****THIS BAD***** gets funded over their goal of ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS.

Is there something going on here? Am I being tricked? This game looks like trash.
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>>342912467
The game definitely looks like trash. Compare it to a game like CrossCode which got half the funding but looks way better than that shit.
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>>342904198
>guns kill people
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>>342912842
Okay. I just feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people talk about how amazing the game (Elysian Shadows) looks. Other than that, why did this game get so much money? I literally cannot figure it out.
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>>342904198
Man I've already sworn to mug Chris Roberts and personally get my money back if/when Star Citizen doesn't come out, but if a dev said that kind of shirt to me, I'd feel compelled to kick his ass on general principle. I know I sound like an internet tough guy, but in these two specific cases I'd actually follow through
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>>342904198
Jesus, whoever backed this got scammed.
6 month gaps in updates, fuck all done.
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>>342912947
Mainly they got all that money from people that are desperate for any game that hits their nostalgia. I think a large part of it was due to them saying it would be a Dreamcast game as well.
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>>342912842
>pixelated spats

The best.
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>>342904823

>Next gen 2D
>Dreamcast and Ouya

Anyone that fell for this needs to be shot. The world needs better people in it, not worse.
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>>342904198
This generation is full of gullible, overly emotional imbeciles, that's why.
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>>342904198
So, has there been any word on how badly Schaffer is botching Psychonaughts 2 yet?

Aside from the well known fact that his not-kickstarter site is a complete and total scam.
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>>342914272
Hey, the left has worked long and hard to destroy public AND private education from the inside while blaming the minority of the right for destroying it from without.
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>>342912842
The fat characters are a turnoff.

Is this another fetish-fueled game?
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>>342904198
Shut the fuck up.
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>tfw I only found out about Dual Gear after the indiegogo ended

Damn it chinks I would have donated to this
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>>342917769
Not the liberals, the commies.
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>>342914272
>Quinn

Fucking shit, you think a dumpy purple haired slut wouldn't have rallied THAT MANY beta cucks to blackout her internet drama.
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>>342904198
Because people are more stupid than monkeys

they want to have their head in the sand on purpose

oh game 15 just scammed me wtf is this? 3 months later ''OMG GAME 16 I GOTTA FUND THIS''
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>>342911810
This is my fetish.

Also what the fuck
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>>342912883
guns dont kill people, it has the potential to kill
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>>342912883
Nuh uh.

I kill people.

With guns.
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>>342919073
CHH CHH
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>this got 10k
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>>342912146
>rapist
>begged for it
i get you dislike him but that doesn't make it rape
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>>342919754
I don't understand. Do people really want to fuck snek so badly.
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>>342920049
Sum it up quick
>2013
>guy wants to make a family friendly RPG game based on the hentai game
>even includes his wife and kids in the campaign video
>asked for 5k, gets 10k
>over 3 years later nothing happened
>just given excuses after excuses during that time
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>>342920746
>guy wants to make a family friendly RPG game based on the hentai game
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>>342919754
>he's still working on it
>I've been experimenting on Blender
>I think it'll make better quality models
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>>342921078
>3 years later
>back to square one
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I've contributed to truthful and successful kickstarters, so that makes you a genuine liar OP-loser.

Why, I bet you are so life-threateningly autistic and out of touch with reality that you don't even know that Kickstarter s used for things besides video games.

>Every kickstarter is the same.
Oh OP, you're so stupid you're going to die soon.
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>>342910690
>Was Among the Sleep any good?
I finished it+DLC in less than 3 hours. Didn't bother me a huge deal, because I'm into VR and they had been advertising VR as a planned feature. Then they decided "nah, it's too hard" and dropped it completely. No compensation whatsoever.

If you buy it for VR, you'll be disappointed. If you buy it for a story, you'll be disappointed. If you buy it for scares, you'll be disappointed. It's mediocre in every single way.
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>>342904198
Stupid people, the last time /v/ fell for a ruse it was Spore.
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How is Falco Girgis not in jail?
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>>342922364
You mean the last time you fell for a ruse? /v/ on the whole is regularly suckered by stupid shit. There were so many desperate Mega Man fans on here backing MN9.
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>>342922482

No charges filed against him warranting an arrest or legal action.
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>>342922482
Even in be American get shot -istan you can't be arrested for anything he has said or done.

Unless they raid his house and find drugs he's fine, and no one cares about him enough for that.
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>TFW backing something over 3 years late
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Because some good games came out of it too.
I personally am fond of the fact that Freedom Planet, Undertale, Hyper Light Drifter, and Skullgirls exist.
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How about Anita's kickstarter, anons?
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>>342926202
has she even finished releasing those videos?
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>>342926665
She gave up after releasing like one third of her promised videos like 4 years after her deadline. Now she's moving away from video games into history.

https://www.seedandspark.com/studio/ordinary-women#story
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>there are people who paid money and are excited for this
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>>342926826
That video just confirmed that she doesn't give a shit about what she's talking about. She's just there for the money. Clever jew.
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someone post the "stress" posts
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Is this what a cult looks like? Bear in mind that the "game" was already in development for over a decade at the time these comments were made.
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>>342904198
>falling for honeyed words

Is he literally 12? How can an adult be so fucking delusional as to not understand that this is just about money?
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Fucking indie game devs

is there any other industry that's so filled with entitled and obnoxious creators
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>>342927907
Either we're talking retards, fake accounts or troll accounts.
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>>342928204
If comic artists were paid more than literally next to nothing for creating their own content they'd be the scum of the earth
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>>342904823
>Dreamcast

For what purpose?
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>>342906874
allow me to live deliciously, phillip
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>>342918525

That's the power of nu-males.
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>>342928312
A lack of money isn't stopping dobson from being a waste of skin
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>>342928576
I've been seeing people fuck with Dobson for over 3 years now and I still don't understand what is the obscession with some guy that literally sits in his isolated corner along with this shitty opinions, not even having an ounce of popularity or relevance.
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>>342928485
Source on who made the GIF?
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Could I kickstart a comic? I've got an idea for a comic but I can't draw for shit.

>last human on Earth is saved by an alien race
>lol its just to be in Gladiator battles
>Battles are a mix of WWE, old School Glad battles and some gunplay
>bro-tier alien races
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>>342912947
Money laundering
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>>342928920
You can kickstart practically anything. Get an artist that has a particular style and advertise it. /co/ might give you some feedback, if you are serious about it.
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>>342928920
that's a pretty cool idea

If you really can't draw you'll either have to finance a one-off with your own money or offer proof of concept aka character designs, drawn by actual artists before you can get the kickstarter going
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>>342929330
Yeah I'd probably do a one issue prolonge/teaser out of my pocket before I kickstart it.
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Is game design a way of prolonging your childhood? Is that why these people are so infatuated with it
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>>342906874
fuck off phillip youre such a cunt
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>>342904823
>this fucking ingrate got 200k for something increidbly shitty-looking
>I'd be lucky to get even 2k for my game if I ever kickstarted it

Just fucking kill me please.
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>>342930051
Should have made a bunch of shitty ''how-to'' indie development videos and advertised yourself as an ideas guy earlier

You would've been having ALL the cocaine, narguile parties, failed hair implants and Zoe Quinn's roasty
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>>342927283
What in the fuck was that?
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>>342928920
Arena 1989 movie.
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>>342926826
>>342927436
At least she's out of video games and can bother another group
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>>342904198
Pls be good Yooka.
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>>342928690
He's an easy target, that's all. Not high profile, generally unknown and doesn't have a hoard of fans to defend him
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>Kickstarter

Why can't anyone enforce transparency when it comes to kickstarter money? Like actual budget, timeline, deadline and all that shit. Most of the projects I see that end up being in trouble or shitty is because it's been delayed or some other form of excuse to handwave any issues.
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>>342931385
It's too late, the aftermath of all her shit is already far too apparent
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>>342910690
it's a walking simulator. sometimes you find a key to open a door. but mostly, you just walk from point A to point B. it is possible to die, though. i did once when a plank i was walking on suddenly went full PHYSICS and threw me into a pit. note that it was a bug, not an intended game mechanic.
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So, what preorder/kickstarter/alpha/early access have you fallen for?

>2008, preordered Gears of War 2, first game I ever bothered to go to the midnight thing for, online was broken for at least a year following release, sold my xbox and all the games after this shitfest
>about a year later or so I bought Minecraft in Alpha, was a fun little promising looking game, got released in 1.0 with nearly the exact same content as in Alpha
>was getting into PC gaming but still liked console shit, preordered Black Ops 1, it was unplayable on PC for like 4 months after release
>said fuck preorders kickstarter early access etc
>was too tempted and gave in one final time, buying early access Stranded Deep like a year ago, has only received two or three very minor updates since then
>never again, I have enough games I need to beat anyway
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>>342927907

My guess is that these people are trying to desperately fool themselves into believing they didn't waste money donating to these scumbags.

Buyer's delusion is what I'd call it.
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>>342932926
>2008, preordered Gears of War 2
Christ I'm still mad. My first paycheck I payed off Gears 2's CE. First and last game I ever pre-ordered.
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>>342932926
Assassin's Creed 3 since they boasted that the gameplay would be different from previous games with a new engine and all that shit.

Turns out half of the game is a tutorial
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>>342932926
>pre-ordered Deus Ex: Human Revolution for the TF2 items
game was good though
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>>342933892
That sniper rifle was godly
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>>342932556
Do not worry, nothing stays the same. In a few years things will have started to change for the better! And until then there still are a gem or two every year to enjoy
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>>342933937
i still have my Genuine Deus Specs
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>>342904198
Cant you sue him?
Im sure if he specifically mentioned that he will definitely refund before you funded, there is no backing out even if he tried to hide the evidence afterwards? Instead wouldnt he face harsher judgement if he is trying to destroy any evidence of his past post?
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>>342924157
I know how that feels. One that I donated to is over 3 years late, but at least it's still being worked on. All the other ones I had donated to have delivered, but now I really only donate to people I absolutely know I can give the benefit of a doubt and even then I don't do it much anymore.
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>>342934620
Why would you sue some dude over $10 or something.
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>>342935053
To bring them down for not keeping their word.
Im sure if there are a few people wanting refunds, they can all chip in to get a lawyer. Nothing makes me happier than seeing lives ruined over false advertisement.
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>>342932926
>pre-ordered diablo 3
>never trust AAAs ever again
>pre-ordered starbound to be fair terraria was great and I didn't realise that in the drama that was the dev team falling out the shitbag was the one to make chuklefuck
>never buy into early access ever again
It's a learning experience.
Don't pre-order shit.
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>>342931251
Jim?
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>>342919768
Yes it does, she could not consent if she was "acting super drunk", also this is only his side of it.
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>>342919768
Missing the point
>I didn't know if having sex with her would be considered rape or not
Imagine any non-SJW said this publicly. A senator perhaps, or an athlete, or you. The media would crucify them.
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>>342904198
Same reason they fall for E3 bullshots.

They don't concern themselves with an actual, functional, running game.

Never ever back any game unless it has a playable demo, you download that demo, you PLAY it, and you're impressed with what you're playing.

I don't think there's ever been a Kickstarter clusterfuck that got started with a game that had a downloadable demo up on its campaign
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>>342932926
Well I backed Mighty No. 9.

Fuck.
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I still don't regret donating.
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>>342936398
> He donated to minecraft: scam edition
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>>342904198
>This guy got $180,000 to make a Dreamcast 2D RPGMaker game.
>Meanwhile these guys are making their own Dreamcast games FOR FREE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn46lusI9jY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSzxgR4iUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qWip3AWM70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdOd15YcnmM
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>>342936398
So what happened to all the money? They just ran away with it?
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>>342932926
Cube World.
After that the only time I preordered/early-accessed without playing a demo/beta beforehand was Divinity OS, which I didn't regret.
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>>342936764
>I've backed 27 projects including this one
Goddamn, some people just have no idea what to do with extra money, don't they?
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>>342932926
>starbound
>elite dangerous
>diablo 3
>firewatch

those are my buyers remorse
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>>342937406

They gave them keys for another kickstarter open world survival game and said they 'deeply regret it.'

They still shill their shitty prebuilts to retarded 5 year olds though.
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>>342932926
None. Unlike you and other morons in this thread I only pay for completed projects, i.e. actual products, not hopes and dreams. I take no risk and am almost always satisfied with my purchases because I wait to see how they turn out before buying. If someone doesn't get released then it never was and is no loss on my part. Anyone is free to toss money for EA/kickstarter, but those who do so are fools .
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>>342937772
something*
toss money at*
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They're morons? End of the day any project that gets backed gets so much overfunding it isn't fucking funny.

Only game released through kickstarter i've liked is FTL and even then that was back before it went full kike mode.
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That's guy's a based alpha
Stay the buttmad weeb cuck gamer nerd faggots that you are. LEL
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>>342932926
Only thing I have LITERALLY ever preordered was GTA V on PC because I already played it nonstop for three months, and enjoyed the fuck out of it.
It had unbearable stuttering for almost a year. I literally cannot fix it. Even today, it comes and goes.
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>>342932926
>bought into early access to Overgrowth
>backed Confederate Express on Kickstarter
>backed Might No 9

I'd actually completely forgotten about Confederate Express until MN9 came out and reminded me that I hadn't logged in to kikestarter in probably two years. I was a bit miffed to find out it was a scam.
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his middle finger looks like a dick
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>>342932926
I pre-ordered Arkham Knight
on PC
from a keyseller so I couldn't even refund it
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>>342932926
The last game I've pre-ordered was Diablo 3. And we all know how that went. I'm still in shock at how Blizzard could actually fuck up a Diablo game. All they had to do was take Diablo 2, update the graphics, add a few new game elements, and release it.
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kikestarter projects and their backers should be shot before they release another indie pixel shit
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>>342904198
>making the same e-celeb thread several times today
fuck off already
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>>342904198
Doesn't kickstarter have a policy where you're guaranteed a refund on shit that hasn't seen the light of day
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I'm making a game and I have to put it on kickstarter relatively soon to pay for art assests How much do you think is a reasonable amount to ask for
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>>342939771
he's been making the same thread every day since like january, i think op either gave this guy money, or op IS this guy
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>>342912947
>people talk about how amazing the game (Elysian Shadows) looks
>game (Elysian Shadows)
Something's very off about the way you worded this and I don't like it.
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My favourite thing about kickstarter is there's still people trying to get information about Star Citizen from its kickstarter page.
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why do you care on how retard spend their money?
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Speaking of Kickstarter I'm surprised that DoubleFine and their $3.3 Million half game aren't talked about anymore anywhere. It's like all interest died only a couple months after the second part where you just retread the same areas for most of the game filled with actual bad puzzles by the way. Or is that because it's been overshadowed by Mighty Number 9 and other kickstarter scams that have done it bigger and harder than Timmy?
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>>342940065
Hundred an fiddy dollas
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>>342940025
How about you ask an artist for pricing? Since that's who you want to pay with the money after all.
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>>342941202
Problem is that there's more than one I want to use for it so I can only make a hard estimate but even that might not be enough
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>>342910506
>there is a literal fuck-ton of scams and garbage.
Post a list then.
Or can´t you do that?
Maybe because you made that up?
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>>342941541
https://www.reddit.com/r/kickstarter/comments/1j6ubm/complete_list_of_funded_kickstarter_projects_that/
Using reddit links to piss of autists

First hit on google, I could link to a couple of kotaku articles too that list even more failed projects.
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>>342932926
Fable 2 Limited collectors edition
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> Gave $160 to Shenmue 3

Come at me.
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I tried to make a patreon for laughs since me and my girlfriend decorate cakes.
we made a shitload of elaborate designs and shit but we got banned for scamming people.
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>>342941810

>Sad case where creator harassed by "voices" in her head and "intergalactic plasma".

That's a new one. Harassed by intergalactic plasma?

Like, what the fuck was the plasma doing? Taunting her like the voices, or trying to rape her in the bathtub, or what?
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>>342910506
>Because for that handful of good games there is a literal fuck-ton of garbage.
That describes literally every category of video games you can categorize by.
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>>342940334
Because he was responding to a post talking about a different game that clearly looks gorgeous and didn't want someone to think he was saying that it (the non ES game) looks bad
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I'd really rather fund ANY slav game rather than american/west european ones. They can pull off better with less money.
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>>342912230
>185k is a lot of money
I will never understood poorfags
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>>342928775
Sargon
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>>342943887
You will never hope to understand richfags either then.no matter how rich you are,If you earned 180k yourself,you would know its a lot of money
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>>342944304

>poverty line in US for a family of 3 is about $20k

You can technically be living above poverty levels, and it'd still take you around nine years just to make that much, though even longer to be able to have saved that much.

What is /v/'s lines of absolute poorfag, anyway? Less than $1bil?
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>>342928485
Instead of money flowing out of their pockets, they should be handed money from guys with a certain hairstyle and glasses. You know what I'm talking about.
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>>342910393
>Xenonauts
What
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>>342910393
Super hot was lame
>leaves on projects that failed to fund
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>>342944780
I consider myself a poorfag but I only make $500/month CDN
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Could someone post the pasta of the dinner with Inafune? It always makes me chuckle.
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>>342944813
but that wouldn't make sense in the context that the .gif is currently using.
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>>342936764
>make cards for professional victim scam artists
>person who made the kickstarters turns out to be another professional victim scam artist

LIKE POTTERY
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>>342940334
Falco regularly false flags, he has admitted in comments if articles about himself that the drama increases preorders.
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>>342926826
>For years FF has been doing videos..
>Implying they've been released on a regular schedule and it's not just her lazy work ethic stretching out the release schedule.
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The Dark Souls Board Game is looking pretty great.
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>>342904198
>2016 still supporting 2D games, and pixel art games at that.

Wew lad.
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>>342944304
I live in London. A decent apartment there costs 1.5 million.
I do earn more than 180k a year.
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>>342946891
I'm fairly hype for it. Me and a couple of mates decided to get it for the few times we get together over the year, so we'll probably have it the next time we get together in 2017.

Hopin' it'll be as comfy to play with mates as Settlers.
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>>342911810
This guy seems like one narcissistic, evil motherfucker.
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>find out American McGee did a Kickstarter for Alice years ago
>look in on it
>all that came of it was 2 animated shorts
>they were fucking awful
Fucking HELL
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What was that one game that a single guy was making? It was pixel shit. Bob? Bob's Game?

O lawdy.
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>>342947365
isn't that guy currently busy searching for his missing sister?
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>>342910463
This pretty much.

The biggest problem is the fact that people do not seem to understand what Kickstarter is and what the purpose for it is.

It's NOT a fucking "Pre-order" site, when you fund a kickstarter, you're donating your fucking money to a project that you believe deserves to be funded and see the light of day. The Rewards and shit are just a carrot, an incentive.

Do not fucking blame Kickstarter for you being a fucking retard and funding games without reading up on things, doing some basic research and actually reading through the the pitch and what they have to show to convince you.

It's up to you to decide whether a Kickstarter/Fundraiser is worth your money or not Do some fucking research before you throw money at something and check if the devs have experience or not and if the goals th ey set are feasible.

As for dev experience? Keep in mind that in-experienced devs are not automatically untrustworthy, it just means that it's very likely that they miscalculate things, especially when it comes to stretchgoals. I think Hyperlight Drifter is a perfect example of it, the game is good but it failed to fulfill a lot of the stretchgoals it promised.

Why? Because the devs had no prior experience with a project like this. You see, even if you may promise shit that sounds cool in theory, it might turn out that it's imbalanced, not fun and just a shitty idea in practice. Not to mention the added cost, time and complications such extra goals add.

Does their inexperience make it "Okay" for them to fuck up? No, but you should also expect them to be humans and sadly make retarded mistakes as newbies. Don't fund a KS for the stretchgoals, fund it for the basic premise, especially fi the devs are inexperienced.
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>>342947486
>Bob's game
Oh man that was fun.
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>>342947638
>It's NOT a fucking "Pre-order" site, when you fund a kickstarter, you're donating your fucking money to a project that you believe deserves to be funded and see the light of day. The Rewards and shit are just a carrot, an incentive.
The only reason for why people treat it like that, is because of kickstarter creators treating it like that.
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>>342947828
And? As I said, the rewards are carrots, of course creators are going to use that to help make it more likely to make their project succeed.

It's still the users fault for being so fucking retarded that they do not understand the basic concept of the whole site. It'd be enough if people just at least did some research and thought about it before putting their money into a project.
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>>342948238
>And?
So you can't really fault people for treating it like it's presented. I disagree that it's only a bonus at all times.
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>>342932926
>Preordered a Wii U for Zelda U
>Literally waiting 5 years
I ain't mad cos the preorder deal meant I got the deluxe package for about 250 newzealandbucks which is cheap as shit, plus I've loved the games that have come out so far, it's just fucked that the one thing I TRULY got the console for (was a sony fanboy consistently up until this gen) I got shafted on a bit
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>>342932926
My friend encouraged me to buy Spacebase DF9, that was the first and last Early Access game I ever bought.
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>>342936764
why do people even front money for this kind of garbage
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So when is he going to have his meltdown and admit that he couldn't finish the game?
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You hear that Japan? You guys better step your game up if you want to compete with Elysian Shadows.
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>>342951517
The more people shit post on his social media accounts and in the comment sections of articles about him and the game, the closer he gets to snapping, ESPECIALLY if you insult the quality of his engine
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>>342953003
What do we even know about this super special unique engine of his? The game looks worst than a lot of RPG Maker games, it seems the only gimmick going for it are "dynamic shadows", which is just wasted effort if everything looks like ass and it isn't even going to be a gameplay mechanic.
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>>342924598
your a faggot
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>>342953198
But that's exactly it, he has spent fucking 10 years on it and there's nothing special about it at all. Since the start of the year he's just been making a vmu emulator for some reason. If you point out how shit his shit is he goes crazy, just look at the comments on the dreamcast junkyard episode 33 site page, he writes entire essays of anger
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>>342932926
>Preorder

Never. Bought a couple games day one tho.

Also, I bought a DOTA 2 Beta pass.

That's about it.
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Someone post that KS where the creator was told to stop making her game because the Sun told her to stop.
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>>342955729
I remember that, the weirdo used a cropped nude as her profile picture for Kickstarter
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>>342947150
I mean, the best way to be a successful business man is to be morally bankrupt.
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>>342932926

Cubeworld and Starbound

Fool me twice, never again
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>>342904198
Should have donated to anime instead.
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>>342928920
I fucking love this. Heavy Metal / Hitchhiker's Guide.
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I'm really picky about donating, but at least everything I've backed has delivered.
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>>342904198
>backing shady literallywho "developers"
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>>342904198
Why do people keep milking this guy for (you)s?
I feel like I've been seeing this same picture for years.
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>>342937528
Cube world is still alive
It's just the creator doesn't release updates frequently
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A fool and his money are easily parted.

Eventually enough people will get burned by Kickstarter that they'll learn.
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>>342932926
I've gone in super hard on Indivisible. It was like a fever dream. I don't regret it though.
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>>342932926
Red Orchestra 2

People say they lost their faith in Tripwire after the shit fest that KF2 was, Hut the launch for this was terrible. That and the delayed content they promised, and the fact they blamed the community for most of the performance issues, left a sour taste in my mouth.

I guess it was the reason they had to apologize two years after, but fuck them. Vietnam can go to hell.
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My dinner with Inafune has literally be delayed.

What the fuck?
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>>342960047
Post proof.
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>>342960649
My proof got delayed as well.
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>>342932926
I've never backed a kickstarter video game, but I fell for the early access meme on steam and bought Starforge. I'll never forgive myself.
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>>342962542
>"only 18600$"
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>>342932926
never happened to me, I only backed Div:OS and was pretty fucking satisfied that I instantly backed their 2nd game
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>>342904198

It was new and looked promising. I was taken for a wild ride on Chris Robert's spaceship, but cashed out during the grey market frenzy. Afterwards, for some reason, I used some of the money I made from selling my shit to buy new shit.

Then I sold most of it, but ended up buying some new stuff 'in case the game ever releases and is good!' Last time I checked in, they had some incredibly fucked up Nintendo-like friends code system for doing such simple things as playing lobby matches with your buddies.

I've not really looked at the game since. It turned me off completely that they'd be so shit that they felt that was a good idea.

Have not backed any kickstarters since, and never will. I did buy into some pre-kickstarter founder pack early access closed beta special limited edition shit games, but most of them are dead now.
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>>342962542
God damn this is just sad.
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>>342932926
early access remorse:
>KSP
>Prison Architect
>(I'd say Orion: Dino Horde is a stain in my library, but i got it gifted by a buddy for shits n giggles)
>Surgeon Simulator

Preorder:
>preordered Watch_Dogs for 30€, enjoyed the slideshow that was the game on my 2011 laptop
>preordered GTAV for ~30€ on nuuvem, back when they still accepted international paypals only hours before they locked the game down and re-emerged with BR-only codes; it ran better than Watch_Dogs, but still shit
currently re-playing it with my hulking desktop pc
>XCOM2: Played it, loved it
FO4 GOTY is so undeserved in light of this
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> tfw gave $20 to unsung story
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>>342942505
People like you are literally killing vidya. Not like there's much left to kill anyway.
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>>342936764
>30k for shitty drawings

Jesus the feminist influence is strong.
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What was that one kickstarter where the chick who made it canceled it because the sun was harrasing her? I think it was a card game
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>>342944780
>What is /v/'s lines of absolute poorfag, anyway?

Anything less then their parents make.
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>>342932926
One good game, one bad game and one probably never coming out
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>>342904823
those sprite shadows are just rectangles

holy fuck
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>>342910506
There aren't that many cancelled projects. Who cares anyway, better to have this money going to indie devs that will use most of it staying alive to make games instead of giving ActiBlizz or EA another $50,000 to put in the bank.
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>>342910393
Stop with the fucking copy pasta

Legend of Dungeon is fucking terrible
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>>342956071
This man is in no way a success. He has been "working" on his shitty game for a decade while basically begging and conning people into giving him enough money to live.
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>>342930051
Timing (i.e. luck) is everything. He just wove the Kickstarter hype wave with an RPG made for PC and Dreamcast.
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>>342932086
>Why can't anyone enforce transparency when it comes to kickstarter money?

For the same reason that you can't simply force some retard to not lose his money in the street.
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>>342940334
>Something's very off about the way you worded this and I don't like it.

Maybe you have brain problems.
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>>342944813
about 5 of them would do
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>>342909697
What's overload about?

I backed divinity. Good choice, I loved that game
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>>342904198

Stop backing overly-ambitious project by indie-devs. Kickstarter is only really good for products by established companies with a lot to lose and comic artists.
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