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honestly you're right
honestly I don't think you're correct
oh man , it's this thread again
this time will be good
RIP Zoroark
RIP Bronzong
Can't wait to see Gamefreak advertising this as a new "innovation" in the franchise
You must have hated when gen 5 introduced infinite TMs too...
>>342857587
I don't get it
What's the issue here?
Do they at least make you catch the opposing Pokemon or discover its weaknesses through experimentation before it says this stuff?
>>342857587
its embarrassing when bad players complain about casualization that won't effect anything serious at all. If this matters to any of you you're retarded.
>>342857773
Zoroark will probably fool the indicator as well
Ex: Zoro imitates a blastoise: Thunder will probably say "Super effective" before it's blastoise is revealed to be a zoroark
>>342858194
You fight it once and magically learn everything about it.
>>342858223
that would only make sense otherwise it ruins the gimmick
>>342858025
casualization (of an incredibly casual serie)
>>342857773
>RIP Bronzong
What?
>>342857587
>original generation pokemon
>a few types with obvious strengths and weaknesses
>fast foward to todays clusterfuck generation
>more types than there are tumblr gender identities
>pokemons also have 3/4/5 types at once
>steel is weak to fighting ;)
I've seen this picture dozens of times but I don't know what it means despite being pokemon
what's all the fuss about?
>>342858295
>What is a pokedex
Am I the only that's panicking about the size of the move select screen?
>>342858332
Nigger, if you're /fit/ enough, you can bend a small steel beam
>>342858307
Everyone and their mother already knows all the weaknesses anyway though.
Plus you still have to find the weakness first before it tells you.
>>342858327
Some people pulled out of their butts that abilities will stop working because of the indicators.
.
>>342858373
people bitching about hand holding
>>342858429
I don't see why you'd panic. There's no need for it to be huge, this is easily readable and selectable. And now they can have other shit next to it.
>>342858373
It appears that the game now tells you the effectiveness of moves in the move select menu, removing any guesswork or required knowledge of the type match ups.
>>342858373
>despite being pokemon
What pokemon are you?
>>342858332
They've introduced a total of I think 3 types since first gen and pokemon are still restricted to two types, maybe 3 through a specific set of circumstances which is useless, sans maybe pokemon with protean.
Good bait though.
>>342858307
How? It just shows you information that you can look up on your own anyway. Besides, everyone knows these things already.
It doesn't even show you type effectiveness UNLESS you catch the Pokemon first, so I don't get why you have a problem with this.
>>342858597
>>342857587
Both games are made for and advertised for children.
>b-but we didn't need it growing up
Times changed and new generation is scientifcally proven to be dumber than the last. Also there's 700+ pokemon and double the amount of pokemon types there use to be
And Sakurai never wanted smash to become like melee.
Get over yourselves.
>>342858597
>optional options are bad
>>342858549
I didn't know about heatproof. I don't think this will outright tell you pokemon's abilities without prior knowledge though.
>>342858327
This >>342858549 is completely wrong.
Bronzong's two abilities are Levitate and Heatproof. The only way to discern which one the one you're fighting has you have to test by using a Fire or Ground type move. This gave Bronzong a surprise factor in competitive. People are just freaking out about how the system will handle stuff like this.
>>342858610
It's less selectable
It's less readable
In the other 3/DS games you could select a move almost instantly just by tapping with your fat thumb on a random area. Now you'll probably need to use the D-Pad so you can avoid misclicking shit.
It's not that big of a problem, but oh god it was already fucking perfect, why fuck it up?
>>342858950
I'm sure it will be fine even for just tapping the general direction with your thumb.
>>342858424
A rotom
>>342858950
>not using the D-pad and buttons all the time
Using the stylus was slower. And tapping with your fingers put prints on the screen.
>>342857587
Saves you the time of googling which pokemon it is
>>342857587
Neutral moves shouldn't be called effective but that's my only issue with it. I already know the typings by heart so who cares if this helps out newcomers.
>>342857773
You know this information will only be based on typings right? So if Zoroark turns into Pikachu, Earthquake will show up as super effective.
Same with Bronzong, it will ignore abilities and tell you based on typing.
But yeah, it's probably best to just blindly hate.
>>342858950
I don't think this one is working for you, you might need to find something less stupid to nitpick.
>Fire super effective against grass
>Makes sense
>Water super effective against fire
>Makes sense
>Bug vs Dark
>Umm ohhh well ummm
>Super effective
>Ghost vs Ghost
Well they're the same time so it must be not ve-
>Super effective
>Fucking Fairy vs Fire
>What does fairy even feel like?
>Not very effective
>>342858950
I would be fine with it if they used the massive amount of extra space for something useful. From what I can tell it just seems greyed out and pointless. Questionable design choice from somrthing that was not broken in the slightest and got changed seemingly for the sake of it.
This thread is dumb.
Let's talk about this beautiful frogmon instead.
>>342860620
>Ice isn't SE against water
>Poison isn't SE against water
>Bug is SE against psychic and dark
>>342860620
bugs are nocturnal
fairies are magical, forest creatures. Fire is the bane of nature.
There is some logic there.
>>342860620
>>Bug vs Dark
>>Super effective
But it makes sense
Defend this
>>342860863
>she will never sit on your face
Why live lads?
>>342857773
Bronzong already got fucked by the steel nerf.
It can't get much worse.
Why doesn't /v/ understand that pokemon is for children?
>>342862669
All Videogames have always been for children. The problem is that nowadays they're dumbed down.
>>342862290
necessary due to how DeSu works
your spell selection is limited, you need to spread out elements across your team members
it's far better than the alternative of having to attack every enemy group with every team and trying to memorize weaknesses of every demon
or dying to surprise Reflect which is super common on demons late game
>>342861027
the dark and bugs are common fears, and psychic is about the mind. that makes sense.
never understood why fighting and bug resist each other tho
>>342863083
>necessary due to how DeSu works
LOL
>>342857587
I used to play Pokemon with a type chart open on my phone. I'm really glad I don't have to do that anymore.
>growl
>pound
>pound
>pound
>disarming voice
>water gun
Sounds fine to me.
>>342857587
.
>>342863707
nice
>>342863427
you ever tried to punch a bug?
..............................................................
>>342863427
>never understood why fighting and bug resist each other tho
Have you ever tried to punch a fly?
Have you ever seen a ladybug kill a boxer?
>>342864063
no, but i've kicked them. and fighting type definitely includes kicking
Casuals always win, OP.GameFreak intends to keep it that way, unfortunately.
>>342863981
You're an idiot if you don't see what OP's complaining about. Not agreeing with him or anything, but it's not like he just randomly circled something and made a thread.
>>342857773
It's a buff for Bronzong because it'll likely ignore abilities and dumbasses will use earthquake on you just because it says super effective.
>>342864195
have you kicked or have you stomped? Because Stomp is Normal
>>342858307
I'm 1800 ladder in uber on showdown and I still hate to /data and /weakness and damage calcs quite often because I don't play the handheld games
Not really casualization, just convenience
>>342858307
oh wow they just put some convenience in it for new players to know if a move is super effective or not
you have autism
>>342857587
Kids today are dumber and lack attention span.
They're streamlining the games in order to cater to this new generation of kids who play mobile games.
Grow up, already. You're not Pokemon's target audience anymore.
>>342860620
>Bug Vs. Dark
Dude, malaria is fucking up Africa.
>>342857587
This is useful for Pokemon with weird dual typing, you won't have to waste time looking at a type chart. This is a QOL feature and simply removes a small amount of tedium for most players, anyone that actually plays competitively knows the type chart already and doesn't need it.
>>342858507
>>342858778
>>342864284
>>342864332
Why can't anybody on this board detect sarcasm
>>342864425
>merely pretending to be retarded
>>342864425
>I was merely PRETENDING to be retarded!
>>342864215
I'm calling his point stupid because it's actually helpful and these threads always call any anti-frustration feature casualization.
>>342864490
>>342864573
I'm actually amazed as to how people managed to take my post at face value
>>342864769
pretending to be retarded attracts actual retards who believe themselves to be in good company
>>342863537
Considering the demons you fight completely change every fight and you'll never have to defeat them again, it would have been pointless to hide weaknesses. Also consider that fusion restrictions were really limited, which means you could see pretty much any demon at the fusing screen.
They could have done it for bosses tho, they already hide the mana and health pool of those so hiding weaknesses wouldn't have been that much work.
>>342864849
I wasn't pretending to be retarded you aspie
I was making fun of people like the op who complains about a game like pokemon "becoming" casual
>>342864279
I wonder if they are going to fuck up levitate by automatically telling us if the pokemon has levitate or not.
Now you can be a top tier trainer without knowing anything about Pokemon!
>>342865584
You already could
All you had to was print a type chart lmao
>>342865045
Considering there are loads of retards on /v/ who would (and do) complain about literally that exact thing, the joke falls flat Tbh
>>342858797
>Times changed and new generation is scientifcally proven to be dumber than the last.
[citation needed]
Pokemon games were ALWAYS fucking casual trash for fucks sake. Stop forcing this kind of shit.
We should be discussing more important topics instead, like for example, which game is the best one for a no exp playthrough?
>>342861027
>Poison isn't SE against water
Of course it isn't, water dissolves most poisons and renders them ineffective.
There are all kinds of poisons though, several don't dissolve and could be SE against water.
Poison could have type specific attacks, I think. Like Neurotoxin attack being SE against psychic, pesticide being SEx4 against grass, etc.
>>342865763
What the fuck is this shit?
>Normal does 1/2 damage against Normal
>Fighting does 1/2 damage against Fighting
>Flying does 1/2 damage against Flying
>etc., etc.
This is completely wrong.
>>342865763
But now you dont have to. The game literally tells you what you should use.
The next games after SM will have a big "WIN" button you can press to win.
>>342863427
fighting is the hero type and heroes don't fight against each others
>>342866487
We already have one it's called the "A" button
>>342857587
For fuck sake, SMT did it since forever and you can only see it if your pokedex has the Mon registered.
>>342866674
Except when they do.
>>342860620
Dark is the "evil" type, underhanded tactics, sneaky moves etc.
Bugs are justice.
Justice will prevail over evil
>>342866896
DEKEIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>people are actually upset about this
If you're over the age of 8 and/or have been playing Pokemon for any length of time you should already know the type chart, kill yourselves if you don't.
>Consider the following
1.You're playing Pokemon Sun&Moon and you don't want to kill the new pokemon you are looking at.
2.You're fighting a shiny and you don't know what moves are effective or super effective
This is a welcome change. Shit, I have it all memorized since Gen 1 anyway, it's not a big deal.
>>342867737
>find a shiny pokemon
>don't feel anything at all because I always had some way to cheat in every of my pokemon games
>>342860620
bugs love hiding in the dark
have you ever seen two ghosts fight each other? shit's scary
but yea fairy is the retarded one since the type effectiveness for it was purely for balance reasons, no logic was involved
>>342864425
>>342864769
stop pretending to be me asshole
>>342857587
FUCK GAMEFREAK GOD DAMN IT HOW DID THEY EVEN MAKE GEN 5 WHEN THESE FUCKS CAN'T MAKE A GOOD GAME!??!!?
ONE FUCKING SEQUEL TO A GOOD GAME THAT IS ALSO GOOD
IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED
Super Mystery Dungeon did this and nobody complained.
>>342867737
>not having a pokemon that knows false swipe in your party at all times
