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Why do people shit on this game so much I enjoyed it a lot and
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Why do people shit on this game so much I enjoyed it a lot and in my opinion it had more memorable/original quests than Skyrim
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More complex than Skyrim.

Less complex than Morrowind.
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>>342840241
L E V E L
S C A L I N G
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>>342840559
Yeah that was kinda shitty I agree on that but I think almost all the guild quests were much more interesting and immversive and felt less radiant
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>>342840559
that was about it though. there isn't a mod that fixes this?
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Oblivion was the last good game Todd made.
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>>342840559
the same people that defend morrowind and skyrim by saying "you can just mod all the shitty parts out" complain about oblivion having a feature that can be fixed by a mod that's more or less a text file
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>>342840241
It's a game for babies. Every worrying trend in Morrowind was turn up to 12 in Oblivion. Reduce features and make a token effort to copy what Bioware does with characterisation. It's now the Bethesda way.
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>>342843347
i legit told someone Morrowind aged like milk when i went back to play it they responded with "what mods do you have"
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>>342840241
You just described the lite version of everybodys opinion of that game except hardcore morrowind fans.
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>>342840559
F C O M
M O D S
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>>342843124
There's a dozen mods that fix this and they're not even complex. The same people that complain about this will argue that none of your criticisms of morrowind matter because you can mod out the bad parts.
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>>342840241
I had lots of fun on it and still have fond memories of the quests. I remember little about skyrim. I still play modded oblivion today, just walking around enjoying the scenery
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>>342846727
Bullshit, the biggest thing people complain about in Morrowind is the diceroll combat and that's one of the things people call you a babby for modding out.
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this game gives me the fucking largest nostalgia boner. ever. and it's comfy as all hell, walking through anvil, exploring the forests around the imperial city, among the comfiest games ive ever played. gameplay was ehh though.
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>>342846727
>The same people
How do you know?
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>>342840241
Because Gothic 2 is god and Oblivion and the rest of TES are basically dung beetles.
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You have 10 seconds to name a good Oblivion quest that's not "whodunit"
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Hardest TES game outside of the original two.
My only issue was dungeon design (complexity was fine but the constant re-used assets and rooms were offputting) and lack of enemy variety later on (only Minotaur Lords and Xivilai appearing)
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>>342847395
The Inn of Ill Omen was enjoyable. Cozy inn where you can sell stolen goods being troubled by undead and skeletons. Run up the hill, go into the cave and kill the necromancer.

Short and sweet.
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>Oblivion comes out
>got shit pc, but it still runs
>dem sights, dem lags
>beat most of the game
>few days later going to pub
>"Hey anon, how did you like that Oblivion game?"
>"It's cool and all, but fuck me you have to ride all that distance for each quest."
>"Yeah, but it does have fast travel for that. Wait, you didn't know about that?"
>mfw

I literally either rode horse or just ran through entire game, killing gazillions of wolves and bandits on escort quests alone.

I blame morrowind.
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>>342847395
the quest in the dark brotherhood questline where you had to kill all your fellow assassins because the brotherhood was infiltrated. loved the shit out of it, trying different methods to kill them until it worked, giving the big orc guy a poisoned apple and depriving him of all other food. good times
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>>342840241
Assassins guild, thieves guild, shimmering ilses dlc. Everything was subpar.
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>>342847919
I hope you mean everything else.

Shivering isles was the best DLC in any game, and the dark brotherhood and thieves guild in oblivion were top tier.
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>>342847919
you kidding? shimmmering isles is probably the best dlc i've ever played in a game. it was really interesting, well thought out, had good quests, good characters, cool items/abilities, let you be a DAEDRIC MOTHERFUCKING PRINCE

i still think back on that shit fondly

also the dark brotherhood questline is the strongest guild questline in the series if you ask me
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>in the mood for some TES
>not sure if Oblivion or Skyrim
Well, /v/?
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>>342848067
>>342848093
I think you meant to say Night of the Raven
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>>342848291
Do you want horrible potato face same voice, or boring mostly ugly face same voice?
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>>342848389
sorry,not a gothic hipster

i have been considering getting gothic 2 recently, though. is it really worth it? wasn't all that into morrowind - it had an interesting setting and some cool quests but thats it. would i like it?
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>>342840559
Fixed by mods

>>342840384
Hardly.
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>>342840241
Stop making these threads Oblivicuck. Your game is shit and you're a huge faggot.
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>>342847395
Zero Visibility
The Ultimate Heist
The part in the Fighter's Guild where you get high on Hist Sap and slaughter a town thinking they're goblins
When you invade Camoran's Paradise
etc

You've played the game right? You'd remember these on your own.
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>>342840241
/v/ shits on it because of the Bethesda on the box.
It is pavlovian at this point.

The hardcore haters of Bethesda will deride them as a company that relies on mods to fix their games.
In the same breath they will venerate Troika a company whose fans actually had to fix one of their games.
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>>342848725
>censor yourself so i don't get offended REEEEEEEE STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
Someone's a virgin.
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>>342848291
I like oblivion a little bit better.

Also the pic reminds me, I don't buy or smoke weed but one time a friend of mine got me high, and I played Skyrim and spent so much time just reading books going through lore. I think that was the only good experience I've had with weed because I was so enthralled
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>>342848291
Modded Oblivion.
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>>342848632
Night of the Raven is hard if you don't know what you're doing.
There are a lot of solutions to quests so you'll have fun with that.
Just try it as long as you're not the type to immediately dismiss games as shitty and old.
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>>342849247
is it just me or does oblivion just look nice unmodded? like skyrim doesnt age very well, mods are a given, but i think oblivion has this nice aesthetic that just holds up (to some extent) and works
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>>342849027
I think your picture is meant to convey "pleb, euphorian, fedora".
You're welcome.
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>>342849497
Aside from the faces, definitely. It just has a much better atmosphere, colours, weather, etc compared to vanilla skyrim's gray everything.
I could definitely play it unmodded and still enjoy myself.
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>>342849460
i might pick it up on steam, pretty cheap right now

i actually did enjoy morrowind for a good 70 hours before my save was lost and i dropped it. that game looks like a fucking potato, so i dont think ill dismiss it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN80_7rNmcE
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>>342847152

Because they make the same argument you moron
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>>342849590
faces are the one thing you need modding for, so goody looking in vanilla
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>>342849792
Makes me kek every time
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>>342849846

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_x-x0gawck
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>>342840241

There is only ONE shit thing about oblivion: level scaling because the level up system was fucking stupid
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>>342847672
Ignoring fast travel is how I enjoy most open world RPGs. Otherwise your just dicking around from major quest to major quest while missing out on discovering little coves and sights.
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>>342849027
Fixed
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>>342849986
And that's fixed by ONE(1) mod.
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>>342849986
Don't forget faces and voice ""acting""
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>>342850126
Fixed by two more mods ;)
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>>342840241
Good game, and even better with mods.
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>>342849798
How do you know?
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>>342840241
The real answer is that the pre-release buildup was mostly fabricated. Radiant AI didn't work like they said it would (seriously this was their whole fucking "thing" and they botched it), the combat system was weak and archery wasn't useful despite promising that it would be finally, the world's scale was fucked up.

Oblivion was definitely fun from time to time. But it overpromised and underdelivered.
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>>342850274
>voice acting
>fixed

?
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>>342849247
This looks awful m8.

>>342849497
It does, but it looks even better with some mods. Not the ones he's using.
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>>342847395
I liked Defense of Bruma. I got a mod that makes it so you have to hold out for 20 minutes.

But I'm a BFME1 fag who was goddamn hyped during the Black Gate level so it might just be me. Standing tall with mah nigga Boromir was hype.
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>>342850480
I know you've been living under a rock but this mod fixes most races having the same voice actor:
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/9829/?
And the voice acting quality isn't even bad like you're implying, it's just too same-y across races.

>>342850523
Show a better screenshot m8.
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>>342850532
>Black Gate level
guess what im reinstalling
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>>342850274
I wish voice acting was easily fixable. Would make Skyrim more enjoyable.
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>>342850532
>boromir
>black gate
Retard.
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>>342850620
Oblivion has awful voice acting though. Worse than Deus Ex.
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>>342850620
>recommending a mod that causes mute people
lol
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>>342850929
Free reply!

>>342850981
What did he mean by this?
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>>342850620
You're using RTNM for architecture, which is awful and objectively worse than vanilla.
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>>342851136
>Oblivifag literaly crying irl
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>>342851136
>What did he mean by this?
He meant that it is a shitty mod that causes all orcs and elves to be mute assholes :^)
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>>342851197
>it's an "izzy thinks his opinion is fact while posting 900p screenshots from 5 years ago" episode
Bye.
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>>342840241
One of the best single player games of all time IMO. In my top 5 still.
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>>342851253
>I can't install it right, better blame others :^)

@342851249
Wew lad try a little bit harder next time and maybe you'll earn another (You)!
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>>342850835
You can save him. Not a fluke, an actual bonus objective. If you do, he'll continue on in the campaign complete with a path. He follows to Helm's Deep (pic related), then splits off with Pippin and Gandalf. He's already manning the defenses when Faramir shows up in Minas Tirith. He's also incredibly fucking OP in the huge warzone levels (Helm's Deep/Minas Tirith/Black Gate) because he can stun an entire army for half a minute.

Yes, your choices in an RTS actually matter more than in most modern RPGs.
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>>342851271
Who the fuck is Izzy?

That is fact.
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>>342851460
>low settings

MY EYES
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>>342851415
He is right that Oblivion has awful voice acting though. That's what happens when you only have 5 people doing 99% of the voices.
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>>342851271
Not him but his image does look better than yours so he's probably right. And Oblivion is ten years old by the way.
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>>342847395
The Sanguine quest where you spice up a boring noble party by making everyone naked; and having to run back to the shrine in the nude with guards behind you
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>>342840241
ok
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>>342847395
The one where you sleep on a ship in on the Waterfront
When you wake up in the middle of the ocean you find out the ships been hijacked by upstart bandits
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>>342848291

Modded Skyrim for survival simulator.

Modded Oblivion for actual questing.

Don't even bother playing either unmodded.
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>>342847395
>implying there's literally anything wrong with whodunit
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>>342849812
I never managed to get that faces mod working
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>>342854801
She's implying that whodunit is the obivious choice for a good quest so there's no point in mentioning it.
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>>342855929
>She
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personally I can enjoy each of the games, but I do not for the life of me understand how people can -hate- oblivion when it has one of the best magic systems, and you can literally make your own spells.

skyrim by comparison is pretty bad with this, but at least you can make 'MP regeneration ring +9001%/sec' and those unarmed gloves with such a boost it can one shot dragons and judo flip every other npc with "v.a.t.s" animations.

if I had to guess at the real reason they don't like the games further and further back, i'd say its the graphics (and slow reduction in size of towns...), and your first game was probably halo or cod, compared to sanic and mario from back in the day. or even further with space invaders, pong and arcades.
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>>342840559

what's the best mod to fix this?
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>>342849027
*Contrarian
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